Turbo Super Charger?

[3m0k1d]

Ok I personaly havnt seen it done but my friend said he has, I was jus wondering how possible it is to both supercharge and turbocharge a motor? What are the advantages and disadvantages if its possible?

[HonkeyDong]

It's called twincharging.

Twincharger - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twincharger)

[91Notch]

Honestly IMO its a waste of time! Its a tuning nightmare! For the record I have seen a car with a turbo, supercharger, and nitrous. It was a show car of course I doubt it actually did any good with all that stuff on it.

[3m0k1d]

I read up on it and Nissan, subaru, GM, and some others have successfully done it but havnt read any successful Hondas =\

[jriggs]

a buddy has a mini cooper s, with the factory blower ported and pully change as well as a turbo its pretty neat but thats about all in my opinion. and it was an absolute nightmare to tune.

the supercharger helps in the lag factor for his set up, sorry i dont have more info for you i'll give him a call and see if he can email me info about the pro's and con's and info on his build

[3m0k1d]

Well a friend of mine at work said one of his buddies did it on a Pontiac Grand Am GT and I what I read is Twincharging works alot better on bigger displacement motors so a lil 1.6 SOHC wouldnt be the best candidate.

but I dont wanna do it to go super fast, I just wanna see if I can give my Honda more torque lol

[specvser04]

i was looking at pictures today of a 3000gt converted rear wheel drive that is supercharged/turbo/nitrous. he is selling it on ebay or craigslist i believe

[quikcobra]

alot of boats do it the expensive boat's I think its more for looks

[jriggs]

but I dont wanna do it to go super fast, I just wanna see if I can give my Honda more torque lol

just say the hell with it and make a ton of hp over 5k with a nice turbo set up, good clutch/flywheel setup and you'll be happy

it's a lot of money for not enough of this :D from what my buddy told me (cooper s sc/turbo)

[Sneakin Deacon]

but I dont wanna do it to go super fast, I just wanna see if I can give my Honda more torque lol

you want more torque? spray a 100 shot at 1000 rpm.

[3m0k1d]

I dont ever wanna use spray... Never liked it

But I may jus end up doin turbo, just thought it woulda been cool to twincharge a honda

[Sneakin Deacon]

thats cute. you never liked nitrous. :lol:

[swenson13x]

you can supercharge a turbo but if you run the turbo into the supercharger the supercharger will eventually blowup i tryed this twice on a 3.8 and the turbo sent my super charger threw the hood i had bought a new supercharger blaming it and it blew the second one up two. use turbo or s/c but you really shouldn't use them together.

[93LowBody]

I know of a kid with a Hyndi tibron twin charged. He went out to the track and the motor went pop. This is after being turbod for idk howlong and running 13s... he was on track for an 11sec run.

When he gets it back together, ill go to track with him an get a video.

[2.2shelby]

are these the kind of idiots that are on this site?

[Tony1784]

you want more torque? spray a 100 shot at 1000 rpm.
That's about the only hope he would have.

[chi86cutlass350]

That's about the only hope he would have.
but its still a long shot

[Sneakin Deacon]

you can supercharge a turbo but if you run the turbo into the supercharger the supercharger will eventually blowup i tryed this twice on a 3.8 and the turbo sent my super charger threw the hood i had bought a new supercharger blaming it and it blew the second one up two. use turbo or s/c but you really shouldn't use them together.

sounds more like operator/builder error than anything else...

[hondasRcool]

yo, i hear DEI is the new thing, you just plug your exhaust right into the intake runner. no turbo lag, no belt to take away power from your engine, and no bottle that has to be filled. i'm making one to put on my honda as we speak. except i'm gonna pour sand into my intake and port it out at the same time.

[primhatch]

what the fuck is the deal with this site

[Sneakin Deacon]

yo, i hear DEI is the new thing, you just plug your exhaust right into the intake runner. no turbo lag, no belt to take away power from your engine, and no bottle that has to be filled. i'm making one to put on my honda as we speak. except i'm gonna pour sand into my intake and port it out at the same time.

wow, be original atleast...trolling the internet and using other peoples posts is pretty lame.

[3m0k1d]

wow, be original atleast...trolling the internet and using other peoples posts is pretty lame.

+1 Everybodys Read it man....

[1slow1g]

the is a kit for 03 04 cobras that run twin 57mm turbos blowing through the eton blower. the concept is that by sending compressed air into a blower you will further compress it. problemb is that a set of 57mm turbos would prolly be more efficient on there own.
we had a tiburon come in with a lil roots mount blower and a turbo and a nitrous kit and meth injection. it made 325 wheel. stick a turbo on it alone it would have made 350 wheel on pump gas no bottle.

[edmel89]

i saw a red scion tc on a magazine (import tuner or something like that) with a supercharger and turbo, it was only putting 225 hp at the wheel.... you can do that easier with a H23 or k20 in a light honda shell... but w/e

[Sneakin Deacon]

the is a kit for 03 04 cobras that run twin 57mm turbos blowing through the eton blower. the concept is that by sending compressed air into a blower you will further compress it. problemb is that a set of 57mm turbos would prolly be more efficient on there own.
we had a tiburon come in with a lil roots mount blower and a turbo and a nitrous kit and meth injection. it made 325 wheel. stick a turbo on it alone it would have made 350 wheel on pump gas no bottle.

....what kit for the cobras runs twin 57's through a stock blower?! the blower would be such a huge restriction cause those 57's would be flowing so much. i really have a hard time believing this unless someone was just too lazy to switch the blower out for the manifold that came with the kit...and no...the concept is not to recompress compressed air...when you compress air it gets warmer...recompressing it gets even more warm. the concept is that the roots blower MAY make up for the low end and throttle response while the turbo(s) would pick up on the top end.

[91Notch]

....what kit for the cobras runs twin 57's through a stock blower?! the blower would be such a huge restriction cause those 57's would be flowing so much. i really have a hard time believing this unless someone was just too lazy to switch the blower out for the manifold that came with the kit...and no...the concept is not to recompress compressed air...when you compress air it gets warmer...recompressing it gets even more warm. the concept is that the roots blower MAY make up for the low end and throttle response while the turbo(s) would pick up on the top end.


Here ya go!

http://yonsonracing.com/SEMA_07/Tuesday/source/images/sema_07_tu_DSC_9398.jpg

I think this was just a moc up though. Anyone at a show can set up a turbo kit and just put the blower on top just for the hell of it. I wouldnt beleive it unless I saw it installed on a running vehicle. But they claim that the kit is in production so IDK.

But I agree your defeating the purpose of the turbos cause it just gonna all get jammed up again when it hit the supercharger. I also agree that you would be much better of just running the turbos. Hell you can even do this with a single turbo if its sized correctly for what you want the car to do. Not to mention this has got to be a tuning nightmare and I dont think the install would be all that fun either.

[Sneakin Deacon]

"works with or without the factory blower"

basically they sold the kit minus a manifold to keep the cost down...i do not believe for one second that kit will sustain 1600hp, not with just 57's, and definately not through the stock blower.

[91Notch]

"works with or without the factory blower"

basically they sold the kit minus a manifold to keep the cost down...i do not believe for one second that kit will sustain 1600hp, not with just 57's, and definately not through the stock blower.

I agree. The only way I would beleive it if I was there in person when they put it on the dyno.

[JDMAddict]

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h189/motofreak257/Turbo_dSupercharged_Skyline.jpg

[tegy92]

Just Go Dohc And Turbo