TV Prices!!

[ODB]

shit...they are getting so cheap!! A couple of weeks ago I picked up a Mits 57" DLP for 1253.00 with tax. It's full 1080P. I saw a Samsung 50" LCD 1080I for 1299.00 today....at Sears non the less!...buy now! Awesome deals!

[Steve B]

already bought two weeks ago, X 2

[ODB]

already bought two weeks ago, X 2

what did you get?

[topher469]

Just got a new one too!!


Mines only 19" LOL
but will look good going down the road

[red vert]

bought my Vizio lcd at circuit city about a month ago searched online and they price matched it!

[plazma]

I got the 50 samsung at sears from the g/f.

[Duceanahalf]

i got a 50" Samsung DLP for $500, but its only a 720

[Steve B]

what did you get?

42 inch vizio for living room

37 inch vizio for bedroom

[Iraq&Roll]

I want a new TV....

[EsCoRtLvR]

Buy Insignia at BestBuy, it's a rebadged Samsung all the way. We compared insides and they are EXACTLY the same. :D I picked up a 37" Insignia for $500. FYI 1080 is better looking, but only if your using a blue ray player. You won't notice the difference at home with a HD upconvert DVD player because max output is 720p which is what most people are probably going to be using for a while until the Blue Ray comes out of the clouds. The new HD coming out thats going to be standard is all 720 as well excluding the sports channels/movie channels which are "supposed" to be 1080 from what I know.

[Stangonline]

On the 1080 vs 720 thing... Media center PCs, Xbox 360s, (I think PS3s), Blue Ray and HDDVD players all display in up to 1080p, so if you like any of those things, 1080 is the way to go.

[Scott]

I got a top of the line 52" Sharp Aquos 1080 a month or so ago at cost because my friend that works with IBM did a project for them so they offered him cost pricing. It retails for over $3k and I got it for $1,800 shipped to the house.

I do not follow the tv stuff much but supposedly it has all the bells and whistles along with awesome clarity.

But yeah like Pat said, they are getting cheap ! I remember a few years ago these tv's were $5k + !

Get ready for 1440 ( I think that was the number ) to replace 1080 soon according to my friend.

[jabtay]

I need to get a new tv...my 42" plazma is getting a bit dated :(

[EsCoRtLvR]

Sharp Aquos is the best quality picture I have seen in High def televisions.

On the DVD player deal most of the ones out there are upconvert, which isn't real high def. Better than 480 for sure, but not the real deal :D The 360 is an upconvert dvd I'm pretty sure but the ps3 is a true. At least that's how they were initially released hence the cost difference :D A media center PC is obviously going to be as good as it gets since you can use a video card accelerator. When 1440 comes out all you have to do is swap video cards :lol: . I run DVI with my 19" lcd and love the picture!

FYI you won't be getting any real high def without HDMI/DVI cables anyways :D The red green blue spectrum of the "base" high definition sucks balls :p

Switch your TV from 1080p to 720p, I bet you don't notice enough of a difference for the cost :D Now if you have a blue ray player, the difference may stand out. And 1440 is hilarious, at the rate they are trying to move they are gonna say screw TV's and go holographic for the real win!

This is the setup I have. Nothing special, but it works since I'm a broke bitch!
Sony - BRAVIA 1000W 5.1-Ch. Home Theater System with 5-Disc Upconvert DVD/CD Player - DAV-HDX265 (http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=8230256&productCategoryId=abcat0203000&type=product&tab=1&id=1167445161872#productdetail)

Insignia® - 32" 720p Flat-Panel LCD HDTV - NS-LCD32 (http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=8274379&st=insignia+32%22&lp=1&type=product&cp=1&id=1171058028982)

[Iraq&Roll]

So..........plasma sucks and DLP is the way to go??
Only asking because I have no clue. What is the pro-vs-con of each?

[BigDawg]

Fuck no, Plazma is way better. But still is more expensive. Dollar for Dollar DLP is a great buy. LCD is middle of the road, Plazma runs somewhat hot on the screen, hence plazmas having a life expectency of around 5000 hours, some going up to 20000 hours life. Here is what it comes down to, I had the HiDef 101 class at Audio Visions in Hyde Park, and being they put out 100,000.00 systems, I figure i Would take there word. 720P is equivalent to a 1080I, most companys stoped listing 1080I, because too many consumers were getting comfused with the 1080I and the 1080P, the difference is the I stands for Integrated, and the P stands for Progressive. if you have anything over about 52" of TV within an 8 foot viewing space, you will tell the difference in a P or I TV. Keep this in mind this is for 50" or more of TV. And even so, the average consumer cannot tell while on an HD channel. A trained eye will be able to tell the difference. Average consumer, its not even worth it, and it only is noticeable on black images. Go with a 720P or 1080I, for the 1080P if you have a huge TV in a small area for viewing, and want to show people how big your cock is, then go with a big 1080P in a tiny ass living room. Other than that, The Vizio line or the Olevia LCDs are a great buy. I bought my Aquos 52" from Sams Club for 2100.00 with a 5 year warranty. 1080P, and it works fine. I have a Vizio 32" in my bedroom, and it puts out a great image, I am happy with the purchase. I am buying my son a 26" Vizio for christmas. I think it is 450.00 right now at walmart.

[EsCoRtLvR]

I'm pretty sure "I" means interlaced though :D It's the type of image output. Progressive is like a buffering where it scans the signal multiple times before showing it to you Interlaced is a direct feed hence the lower image quality.

Yeah unless you set the 2 different types of television next to each other you would never know the difference as a common consumer :D

LCD cannot create a true black while Plasma can. DLP can create all the image spectrum and look great doing it, only problem is the viewing angles are slightly restricted and it's bulkier.

[REDLIGHTRACER]

ok i am i tv fucking nut ! mike will tell ya ,
here is a list
1-i have a mitz dlp 65 one in the front room
2-a mitz 65 dlp for the movie room.
3-42 lcd vizo in the master bed room
4-37 inch lcd vizo in our daughter bed room
5-20 inch lcd vizo in master bathroom
6-15 inch lcd vizo in daughter bath room
7-15 inch lcd vizo for my daughter dance studio
8-15 inch tube out by the pool and jacuzzi (so u can watch foot ball lol)
9-20 inch tube for garage

i had a plasma 42 inch tv in the bed room and IMO plasma suck! lcd is a brighter and better pic! i paid $3200 for the plasma took it back and bought a 42inch vizo lcd for $1200 and it blows it away!!

i have bought all my tv s at costco . they use to have a lifetime warranty , for example if you buy a tv 2 day and it cost u $1200 with tax out the door and your unhappy with it or it breaks at anytime no matter how long or how many years you took it back to the store and they will give you your $1200 refund !!! AS LONG AS YOU ARE A PAYING MEMEBER AND KEEP YOUR MEMEBER SHIP CURRENT WHICH COST $40 A YEAR !!!
THEY CHANGED IT IN FEB OF THIS YEAR NOW ANYTHING BOUGHT B4 FEB 07 U CAN STILL TAKE BACK FOR FULL REFUND! AFTER FEB 07 YOU HAVE 90 DAYS TO GET FULL REFUND BUT THEY ALSO GIVE U FREE 2YR IN HOUSE SERVICE AND IF IT CANT BE FIXED THEN THEY REFUND YOUR MONEY IN FULL !!

[Spelunking]

Wow, there's a lot of misinformation in here...

1080p is not instantly better than any other resolution, in fact, the TV that just won HDTV of the year, and Product of the year, is a Pioneer Elite plasma that's 720p native...that's right...a 1366x768 (720p) plasma looks better than even other 1080p plasmas. What your eye will notice most is contrast, not resolution.

Your best picture will come from HD-DVD or blu ray (I won't get into the format debate), any regular DVD you upconvert will simply not have any of the detail that a true HD disc has, end of story.

Any HD show/movie/sports event you watch on TV will be broadcast in either 720p or 1080i, nothing will be broadcast in 1080p for quite some time, if at all. Reason being is that 1080p requires twice the bandwidth of 720p. There is no room for cable companies to put that much content to your home (unless it went true fiber to your set top box).

360 can output true 1080p, but only games that have been rendered that way, same goes with the PS3.

You can absolutely get an HD signal over component (red, green, blue) cables, and get 1080p over VGA. You can theoretically get 1080p over component cables, however that standard was never approved for 1080p, and thus manufacturers have not manufactured a unit that sends a 1080p singal on that output, but it can be done.

If you have a 1080p TV, you can more than likely feed it a 1080p, and a 1080i signal, and never notice the difference. All fixed pixel displays (LCD, plasma, DLP) display the image in progressive scan. When you feed the TV an interlaced (1080i) signal, the TV will do what's called a 3:2 pull down, basically converts it to 1080p. The reason you won't see a difference is that the 1080i signal is being deinterlaced by your TV, instead of your source. The 1080p signal is being deinterlaced by your source (if needed), so either way, your essentially getting the same information.

Plasma's hands down have the best image, it's been proven in more than one study. Plasma's handle motion better than any other technology at the moment. Plasma's have a 60,000 hr half life, not a 5,000 life span. Panasonic units actually have a 100,000 hr half life. If you do the math correctly, 60,000 hrs is over 20 years of watching it at 8 hrs a day.

[EsCoRtLvR]

You can absolutely get an HD signal over component (red, green, blue) cables, and get 1080p over VGA. You can theoretically get 1080p over component cables, however that standard was never approved for 1080p, and thus manufacturers have not manufactured a unit that sends a 1080p singal on that output, but it can be done.


Have you actually seen the same tv on the 2 different cable sets on the same signal with the same visual settings to notice the difference? B/C when I worked at Best Buy in the Home theater it was a hands down difference on most of the better televisions like the Aquos. Using monster cable for both. Maybe it was just us though :lol: .

[Duceanahalf]

Have you actually seen the same tv on the 2 different cable sets on the same signal with the same visual settings to notice the difference? B/C when I worked at Best Buy in the Home theater it was a hands down difference on most of the better televisions like the Aquos. Using monster cable for both. Maybe it was just us though :lol: .

were those TVs calibrated or were they just taken out of the box and then have the brightness jacked up

[Spelunking]

If there is a difference, it's not necessarily the cable. When you change inputs those inputs have independent settings, so if you don't (or can't) change the setttings on both specific inputs, you won't get the same image. HDMI absolutely can provide a better signal, my point was that you can get a HD signal using component cables, unlike your previous statement.

I'm not trying to say you don't know what you're talking about, just that Best buy doesn't exactly provide top notch training to its non commission employees.

edit: Monster cables are overpriced pieces of crap, sure your image looks better, but you can get the same results using much cheaper alternatives (not monoprice)

[BigDawg]

alot of great info in this thread.

[EsCoRtLvR]

Monster cables are just overpriced to the consumer. Best Buy buys them for alot less :lol: . I used to get 10% over cost as my employee discount so I had monster audio everything at one time =p . Basically their markup margin was somewhere b/w 150-200% or more :D

I did say in my last post with the same visual settings....unless I wasn't clear on that, that would pertain to the same settings on each input in contrast, color, brightness, etc. :D

[REDLIGHTRACER]

i need help with all my 1080 tv s all i get is a snowy pic , i went to radio shack and bought the best pair of rabbit ears they had and no help! i even put aluminum foil on them and no help!!!!! BAWAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAH j/k http://smileys.on-my-web.com/repository/Laughing/drunk-irish-048.gif

BLUE RAY FOR THE WIN 1080 and SO SO FOR THE BRIGHT HOUSE HD 1080 CABLE!

[Spelunking]

ok, I should have known that you guys were sony fanboys. Just so you know, HD-DVD and blu ray have no distinguishable difference when using the same codec (vc-1 for example). When put side by side on identical TV's, the only difference is going to be the player components, not the technology.

[REDLIGHTRACER]

ok, I should have known that you guys were sony fanboys. Just so you know, HD-DVD and blu ray have no distinguishable difference when using the same codec (vc-1 for example). When put side by side on identical TV's, the only difference is going to be the player components, not the technology.

THERE is one difference i have a blue ray player and not a hd player , so hd dvd are bricks for me!!! lol
the big difference is storage the blue ray can hold a lot more info than hd dvd.

[Spelunking]

Way to turn a blind eye. HD-DVD has approved a 51gb disc.

I have a HD-DVD player, so I guess blu ray is a terrible format (let's not mention the fact the new Pirate's, Harry Potter, and Blade Runner blu ray discs all have error's promting them to release replacements)

Fact is, either way you go, you're going to get a fantastic picture. Both will end up meaning nothing at all, and both will ultimately cost more money than this war was worth

[EsCoRtLvR]

lol so true