Tarmac Tease

[treekiller]

Attention Drifters!

We've been seeing several drifters at our recent Rallies and rallycrosses come out and see what it's all about, get to attack some tarmac with no fear of unpaved roads, enjoy some killer food and help steer the future of motorsports in Tampa Bay.


Tampa Rally, Treekiller Enterprises in cooperation with Mandalay Solutions and AWD-TURBO.COM are Pleased to announce:


The Tarmac Tease "T"SD
Register here: Registration Link (http://tiny.cc/16m4F)



In the spirit of Tampa Rally we are once again raising the "steaks" of this event while shorter in distance then previous rallies the Tarmac Tease will promise to offer a challenge to even our "seasoned" rally teams.

Event to commence with a huge BBQ binge dinner and Tampa Rallies first scheduled membership meeting. where we will discuss the future of Tampa Rally events and the progression of our successful Rallycross program. (Jeff will also be available for rally master training for anyone interested in designing their own event) as always entry into a rally will qualify you as an official member of Tampa Rally and Performance, as this special offer will continue for the remainder of this, our inaugural year.

Event Start:
Timberlan Park (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&time=&date=&ttype=&q=timberlan+park,+tampa&sll=28.061226,-82.524104&sspn=0.01013,0.018411&ie=UTF8&ll=28.061301,-82.524147&spn=0.01013,0.018411&z=16&om=1)
4903 Timberlan St
Tampa, FL 33624
Registration from 12:00 (noon) to 12:30 FCO 1:00 PM



Event Details:

over 60 miles of the best tarmac Hillsborough county has to offer, traveling in, around, and between 50 Named lakes. To finish with a New Orleans Family style BBQ at the much renowned "Hot" Rods BBQ


One will also notice this event carries a much reduced price, hopefully the Mini-rally style events can be interspersed into our season these events are much more family friendly, More social, and can be enjoyed by any and all street legal cars without the fear of unknown, unpaved roads.


Look forward to seeing y'all there
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[titan uranus]

what? drifting?

[shinmei2006]

no money, shitty car, other plans, etc etc...

[Silvia_San]

awesomeness. i am gonna see if i can borrow a car or something since cut springs and performance driving don't really go hand in hand. but hats off to you sirs for having such awesome events.

[Silvia_San]

i have a quick question though, what are the regulations as in speed and all that? like is it a closed course where we can go over the speedlimit if need be or is it open where we have to follow the posted speed limits?

[treekiller]

they are on public roads, so it is *recommended* you follow any posted speed limits If you want all out close course we have the rallycross coming up on 12/22/07 at east bay speedway.. Road rallies are more of a challenge of not only the driver but a navigator. you are given a few "rules" to follow and a set of rally instructions that if folowed correctly will keep you on the perfect route. mess up and the clock does not stop.

[4wheeldriftS13]

What sort of course? I dont even understand what this is?! Road Rally? or WRC style?

[RB240Mike]

Lol racing event on public roads.. I don't see this ending well lmao.

[shinmei2006]

Lol racing event on public roads.. I don't see this ending well lmao.

its ended well several times...

this guy is doing a great thing for the Tampa rally and race scene, dont knock him until you've either read all his posts or participated in one of the numerous successful rallies he's organized.

keep up the awesome work treekiller

[4wheeldriftS13]

^I may enter. I want to see the roads we're racing on tho. This will be pretty badass. I want to see pictures of past events.

[shinmei2006]

just head into the autox forum Mars 302 took alot of pics

[4wheeldriftS13]

seeing the new cars in touge pics will make Kei be proud! :]

[treekiller]

yes, floridaracing.org has several albums, now keep in mind the previous rallies were unpaved and paved, this event is all paved.

[4wheeldriftS13]

Im down. anyway to get registered in person? I would really like a course layout?

[treekiller]

sure, just show up and register, if you cannot do it online.

[4wheeldriftS13]

course layout! PLEASE

[shinmei2006]

thats cheating sean

plus i'm not entirely sure, but i dont think there is a set layout...

just a start and an end...its up to your navigator to find the best route via map...

i think

[4wheeldriftS13]

^ will you be my navigator? ^_^

[shinmei2006]

i actually wouldn't mind. If you wanna do that lemme know and you can give me your registration money and i can use my paypal to register early.

[4wheeldriftS13]

^BALLIN. We'll do that then! :)

[Shadytrixta1]

This guys events are basically bad-ass and will only help the future of tampa motorsports! I take it these roads would be fine for my civic that shits on its own nuts?

[4wheeldriftS13]

^enter and we're laptime rivals.

[treekiller]

This guys events are basically bad-ass and will only help the future of tampa motorsports! I take it these roads would be fine for my civic that shits on its own nuts?

you should be fine in any car that can clear a speed bump. there is no unpaved satges in this rally. get your navagators head right and come out.

[4wheeldriftS13]

^Im getting together w/ Shinmei so he can be my navigator. about how long is the course? hairpin turn? double apex? just curious, not being a cheater. lol

[Shadytrixta1]

^liez!!!!!!!!! ^ is teh mastercheater!

[treekiller]

^Im getting together w/ Shinmei so he can be my navigator. about how long is the course? hairpin turn? double apex? just curious, not being a cheater. lol

I don't know, even if I did know, I couldn't tell you. Knowing Loren it's going to be fast anf difficult. but that is only a guess. I'm not the rallymaster the event, I'm only the registrar, Head Pimp.

[kpbjls1]

I don't know, even if I did know, I couldn't tell you. Knowing Loren it's going to be fast anf difficult. but that is only a guess. I'm not the rallymaster the event, I'm only the registrar, Head Pimp.

I don't get how this is going to be "fast and difficult", but still on public roads.

[Mars_302]

Wouldn't you know that I'm working on editing the instructions for this rally at this very moment?

Jeff has posted this link before in another thread, but it hasn't made it into this one yet. It's a really good source for information on TSD rallying:
Welcome to TSDRoadRally.com - Road Rally News and Information: HOME (http://www.tsdroadrally.com)

To answer your questions:

The "speed limits" are whatever the speed limit is for the road you are on. No, you can't speed, that would be illegal! We can't advocate that.
The tricky part is that, in addition to the speed limits imposed by the government, each section of the rally has a stated calculated average speed or "CAS". The CAS for a section might be 35 mph... but it often includes stop signs, turns, stop lights, and other obstacles that will make it difficult to maintain that AVERAGE speed of 35 mph, even if the typical speed limit of that section is 45.
How do you win? There's the challenge. You win by following the route instructions and not getting lost AND keeping up with the CAS such that you arrive at each checkpoint at exactly the right time. Not the fastest... the penalty for being early is the same as for being late.


A TSD Rally is not a race. It's all about attention to detail and accuracy. That's not to say we won't find some interesting roads for you to drive on! But you don't have to break any laws to win.

that should clear up a lot of confusion on the syle of event this is.

[treekiller]

I think the concept of average speed is eluding some people. If you've ever driven an autocross, a typical run can be anywhere around a min for 1/2 a mile. if you graduated 2nd grade math your brain at this point would be telling you.. crap that's only a 30mph average. now throw in stop signs, radically curvy roads and a 40mph CAS and things get very interesting. for example if you can average just 60mph on sebring that is a decent 4:10 lap time. and there are no stop signs, or speed limits there.

These are extreme examples but I hope you get the point.

No we cannot advocate breaking the speed limit, and no cas can be set at a speed higher then that limit. that is why by law they require us to have time allowances, in the old days if you got lost, or stuck you had to MAKE UP the time. while we cannot require that, many of our entrants choose not to use time allowances. (that is how performance rally was formed) the average speeds were imposable to achieve and the closest car (being the fastest car) would get the lowest score. since then Bogey times have been outlawed in the USA, you can still find Drive-X bogey rallies in Canada and Mexico.

Here is a video from the Guys that build the best rally computers in the world ALFA ALFA Rally Computers - Small Systems Specialists (http://www.rally.cc)


YouTube - We Suck Less! A road rally music video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HR8rmTaRbDk)

That is a TSD rally, notice no helmets, no roll cages. no problems.

[treekiller]

Due to a configuration error that prevented anyone from registering on Dec 22, we have extended the Early Bird registration deadline until midnight, Dec 25. Merry Christmas!

Register Now! (http://www.myautoevents.com/pls/mae/frmEventDetail.Show?psevent_id=8247)

[4wheeldriftS13]

But we're still able to register at the event correct?

[Jordan T]

i will bring rustang

[Silvia_San]

i will bring rustang

< navigator?

[Jordan T]

yes. but you must wear a pre WWII era flight cap and a scarf.

[Silvia_San]

done

[4wheeldriftS13]

yes. but you must wear a pre WWII era flight cap and a scarf.
HAHAHAHAH REPZ!