PCA Auto-X Photos from 11-11-07

[Mars_302]

PCA Suncoast Auto-X@Zephyrhills 11-11-2007 (http://www.floridaracing.org/auto-x/pca111107/)

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[chi town brat]

Nice pix as always Jerm. The coupe just took up too much of my time on Saturday to be out at this event. Looking forward to the upcoming BMW event, would be nice if you could come take pix that day :)

[Spin Out]

Thanks for the photos and helping out.

I still say rental cars are ideal for autocross.

[Muddy]

That was an impressive array of machinery. :cool: Do the PCA events usually get a turn out like that these days?

[Spin Out]

I think we had 20 Porsches and 19 "others".
Lately we have seen a 911 Twin Turbo and a few different GT3s.
(I don't know much about them except that they cost more than my house.)
It's mostly Boxsters and a couple of the next model up. (Caymans?)
If you are a Porsche guy, it's a nice car show.

Congrats to Penny for being the fastest BWM.
I was getting ready to seperate out a BMW ladies class, and then saw that there was no need.

[Spin Out]

I'm sorry, I totally mis-understood you.
I thought you were referring to the GT3RS.

Yes, we did in fact have TWO Mazdaspeed Miatas at one event. Impressive!

[Muddy]

I'm sorry, I totally mis-understood you.
I thought you were referring to the GT3RS.

Yes, we did in fact have TWO Mazdaspeed Miatas at one event. Impressive!
You had it right the first time. :lol:

[Mars_302]

Thanks for the photos and helping out.

I still say rental cars are ideal for autocross.


that gets expensive especially for a poor guy like me. The weekend specials make it cheap, but if you add on the extra insurance its about $40 for a weekend

[Loren]

If you burn up a set of tires in a full season of autocross (and you will), you're looking at at least $20 per event just for tires. Add to that brake pads and all of the cool stuff like trick suspension and stuff that you're going to want to put on an autocross car... competing in a rental car becomes a bargain pretty quickly if you look at it that way.

Oh, and if you have full coverage auto insurance on your car already, you probably don't need the extra rental coverage.

(I'm a master at rationalization... just let me know what you want to rationalize, I can probably help.)

[Mars_302]

If you burn up a set of tires in a full season of autocross (and you will), you're looking at at least $20 per event just for tires. Add to that brake pads and all of the cool stuff like trick suspension and stuff that you're going to want to put on an autocross car... competing in a rental car becomes a bargain pretty quickly if you look at it that way.

Oh, and if you have full coverage auto insurance on your car already, you probably don't need the extra rental coverage.

(I'm a master at rationalization... just let me know what you want to rationalize, I can probably help.)


I dont know about that, I was doing quite a lot in the mustang when I had it, and I was only doing 2 sets of tires a year, and I never acutally went thru a set of brake pads the entire time, and the car was daily driver too, 30k+ a year. Plus it really depends how much you do it. twice a month at $140 a pop for two weekends just for the rental thats a couple grand almost a year. Now if you wanna factor price of the car then maybe. Plus most rentals around where I live arent anything that awesome, at least with what ive gotten. Though the sebring this past weekend handled pretty nice

[treekiller]

Share a car. if you want the numbers to make sense. share a rental or a competition car. most Normal racers that have been around for a while will let you compete in their car for 1/2 the tire budget. (which when your talking Hoosiers can get up there) now on an open track. I will not rent out the orange car for less then $300 for a day/ $500 for a weekend. of course that is arrive and drive pricing. Track tires, oil, brake pads, fresh brake fluid etc. and you get a free fat guy to sit in the passenger seat and show you the fast way around a track., and do the adjustments on the car.

which when you figure it out for the once or twice a year track driver that makes a bunch of sense. as for renting a econobox automatic that is good for rallies but anything with a torque converter does not belong on a track IMNSHO.

[Spin Out]

Loren makes me think we should organize a Rental Car Challenge.
(With Rules and everything). Where a bunch of us show up with rental cars and compete head to head for an appropriately crappy trophy.

It's certainly cheaper than the GRM $2008 Challenge. (And easier too.)

You know they rent Miatas, and Mustangs, and other fun cars. Hmmm?
And if you have an extra set of R-Coumpounds at home.... this could get interesting.

[Spin Out]

Well I took a quick look and Hertz Rents:

350Z
Crossfire
Miata
Shelby GTH
Corvettes.

Interesting.


https://www.hertz.com/rentacar/byr/index.jsp?targetPage=vehicleGuideTypeView.jsp&vType=Fun%20Collection&leftNavUserSelection=globNav_3_2_1

[Loren]

I was thinking "cheap" rental car. I autocrossed a Hyunai Elantra a few weeks ago. Not fast, but fun enough once I figured out how to drive it. (which amounted to "drive it like you stole it" with very high tire pressures) That car cost me $46... for THREE days! It was $13/day.

Any of the "fun" cars will cost way more to rent. And, I'll warn you, things like the Shelby are monitored. You might get away with an autocross, but if you drive obscene speeds on the highway, or especially if you take it to a race track... they'll know.

One of the clubs I used to be in did an "IROC" challenge autocross once. Something like 12 drivers. One rented Dodge Neon.

[chi town brat]

The rental car autox would be a fun run

btw check with your credit card company on insurance for rental cars. American Express has a package that costs as little as $24.95 for the entire time you have the car and covers everything but liability.

[treekiller]

PS> Rallycross on 12/22 I can have the "car of the day" if I get enough people to sign up and pitch in $5 toward it.

[Mars_302]

The alamo rental by the airport had a Pontiac G6 GXP which is the one with the v8 and paddle shifters. I kinda want to rent it for fun cause I acutally liked my G6 4 banger rental

[paul kersey]

hey jerm, are you going to be at brooksville by chance?

[Mars_302]

hey jerm, are you going to be at brooksville by chance?

this weekend?

[Spin Out]

I was out at a Corvette Autocross once, and one of the guys had a rented Taurus. They announced their rental car challenge where it cost $2 per run, and the best time at the end of the day won.

At lunch time they had to rotate the back tires up front because of Severe wear.

[paul kersey]

this weekend?

yeah

[Mars_302]

im signed up I recall, now if I get up at 8:30 am just to make it there in time, thats another story

[Mars_302]

I was out at a Corvette Autocross once, and one of the guys had a rented Taurus. They announced their rental car challenge where it cost $2 per run, and the best time at the end of the day won.

At lunch time they had to rotate the back tires up front because of Severe wear.

You know someone should really setup a rental car challenge auto-x. Rental cars only

[Loren]

A rental car autox is not exactly something you'd want to advertise.