11/25 Rally

[treekiller]

TRAP (Tampa Rally and Performance) Group Now has online registration open for the Richard burns Memorial rally. if you enter this rally early and register before the end of the month you will recieve a FREE 1 year membership to the club and discounted entry to future events.

http://www.myautoevents.com/pls/mae/frmEventDetail.Show?psevent_id=8164&psrnd=.22106400072202360123178752767900354831 (http://www.myautoevents.com/pls/mae/frmEventDetail.Show?psevent_id=8164&psrnd=.22106400072202360123178752767900354831)


Get in Quick, save $$$

Registration will CLOSE at 40 teams so pre-register to secure a spot.

[treekiller]

3 signed up in one day shoot me an email to be added as a worker.

Jeff

[treekiller]

Okay that's 10 I DO NOT want to hear "I wish I would have entered"

[riz600]

just checked and im in, now just gotta finish the caR

[treekiller]

Rally on rob!

PS. I'm driving up to Starke this weekend to discuss the details of Trap's rallycross series holding events at ERS a rallycross there can be up to 30 miles long!!!

[jlude90]

well, it looks like my car will be down, so i think the girl will be driving me around...:(

hehe, we'll more then likely be there though, will register soon though

[chi town brat]

justin, take the new fun vehicle out

[treekiller]

Just got a registration from ALABAMA. looks like the word is getting out there.

[riz600]

how many more entries do we need?

[treekiller]

NEED? none we are over 10 JUST over it'd be nice to have more people but we are on regardless

[riz600]

cool, almost got the car put back together. so i should be ready

[Loren]

I rode with Jeff on a pre-drive of the route today.

I'll make this simple: If you own a vehicle that you don't mind driving down some dirt roads, ENTER THE RALLY. If you're short on ground clearance, ENTER THE RALLY and skip the "extreme" stage. (yeah, you'll lose for skipping a stage... but trust me, YOU WILL HAVE FUN) If you have to rent a car, ENTER THE RALLY.

I'd estimate the roads as about 2/3 dirt, and a hoot to drive on. Only the one stage is really "challenging" to drive, and I'm sure if you enter and tell Jeff you don't want to run that part, he'll find a way to route you around it so that you can still enjoy the rest of the rally.

I'll put it this way... I don't think I'd have any trouble getting my Miata through this Rally course (except for the one stage... and even that one... maybe).

[Mars_302]

Im jealous I dont have a car to do it with. Im gonna keep my eye out for a beater 5 speed mustang

[Mars_302]

btw FYI, there is a Enterprise RentaCar only a few miles from the starting point, so think about that.

[Bugeye]

Argh, so tempting. My car's pretty low these days, but I'm still rocking the Pilot Sport all-seasons from Colorado. What better way to tear them up and replace them? :lol:

I'd estimate the roads as about 2/3 dirt, and a hoot to drive on. Only the one stage is really "challenging" to drive, and I'm sure if you enter and tell Jeff you don't want to run that part, he'll find a way to route you around it so that you can still enjoy the rest of the rally.

What do you mean by 'challenging'? Challenging as in lots of turns, dips, bumps? Or challenging as in difficult to navigate?

[Loren]

Challenging as in "requires ground clearance and a bit of skill to get through". The route itself is pretty easy to navigate, I think.

Mind you, Jeff got through every bit of it without any underbody scraping and without a bit of trouble in his 2006 Nissan Sentra with completely stock suspension.

[NeedCAforS13]

I just registered. See you guys there.

[treekiller]

Sorry I've been away They were closing my office and I had to get the interweb turned on here at my house. I'm back and running and Loren is right... I was writing the Scoring and Checkpoint team positioning plans today. any driver can bypass the "Extreme" bit since it's just before the lunch break anyone afraid can take a shortcut to lunch and only max out one control.

[NeedCAforS13]

Are there any pictures from past events, or of the course? I'm just wondering what sort of roads we're driving on :P

[treekiller]

http://www.tamparacing.com/forums/auto-x-road-racing/439936-rally-pre-run-pics.html (http://www.tamparacing.com/forums/../439936-rally-pre-run-pics.html)

[treekiller]

Only 6 Days Left, If your serious about registering ask me for a coupon code and I'll get one thrown up on MAE, if anyone is planing on walk up registration I'd appreicate a quick email so I can plan to bring enough route instructions etc,

Thanks,

[Loren]

What time to workers need to arrive, Jeff?

[treekiller]

I'd like to have the Checkpoint teams there no later then 9:00AM (sorry Loren, I know you're not a morning person) the checkpoints are kinda hidden and I need to show you on a map where they are. I think Mike (Cpages2) fin. is going to be our starter. which is a simple enough job.

I only have 2 Checkpoint teams Loren, so you have your work cut out for you AND you will be filling out time cards as they arrive. i really want to get punch card time clocks but the reason for that will come with time.

[NeedCAforS13]

I didn't get route instructions yet... can you email them to me? SOlsenA6@gmail.com

Thanks,
-Sean

[cpages2]

I didn't get route instructions yet... can you email them to me? SOlsenA6@gmail.com

Thanks,
-Sean

You wont until event day.

Jeff,

Do you have a tow vehicle for this event? Our team can supply a 4X4 with tow straps, various fluids and Gas if you would like. That way he can help anyone that gets stuck. Just let me know and I will make sure he comes up with the team.

Also what is the starter job you speak of??? :)

- Mike

[Mars_302]

technically I will be there taking pics along the route in my truck, if you guys wanna bring stuff and put in the back of mine thats cool, its a big 4x4 though. I think boards, a shovel, and a good tool kit would definetly be needed

[treekiller]

I didn't get route instructions yet... can you email them to me? SOlsenA6@gmail.com

Thanks,
-Sean


Like Mike said. there is No Recce, to make it fair to everybody including the teams coming from out of state the only 3 people that have been through this route are
Myself (the rallymaster)
Loren (Checkpoint mastermind)
and Mars_302 (Helper, Photographer)

as each team completes registration, you will be handed a packet that will include route instructions. (if you register early you get your packet sooner, with more time to plan) you should have already received the general instructions. A time slip (this is your scorecard loose it and you will receive maximum penalty for any stages we don't have recorded. and time allowance slip, you use this when you get lost, hit a pig, turn into a cemetery :oops: etc.

I am ratcheting the difficulty up for this rally, last event I kinda babied the drivers and gave them a lot of extra instructions This is a DriveX there are several opportunities in this rally where if the driver is not aware of the general instructions you will miss a turn and have to backtrack. I am not Giving keytime reminders, each stage restart is at a NRI. some as much as 7 miles down a given road so pay attention to the control instructions.

when you arrive at a checkpoint the navigator will approach the timing car, the Checkpoint worker will write down the arrival time and an "out time" on your time card. including any time allowance or penalty this out time is your restart at the numbered route instruction given. this will be spelled out in a handout the worker will give your navigator, a big plus is the handout will have the perfect time for that stage so with your time card you can tell what your score for that section was. there will be adequate time and then some to recalculate and get to the Checkpoint exit. there is one checkpoint that is 7 miles in length the time from when you leave the control car to you reach your out instruction is a free zone. travel at a pace you feel comfortable.

this is a bit more difficult as each car will be restarted on a unique time at each restart point. following the car in front of you may get you to your checkpoint a lot more then 300 seconds. early and since we are using seconds in this rally your 300 point maximum penalty is now a +/- 5 min window so expect some close competition

Mike, if you have someone who wants to work sweep fine. sweep teams follow 30 min behind the last car, If you are caught by sweep you are to proceed to lunch or the end of the rally. forfiting those stages.

I hope everyone is up to speed.

[Mars_302]

btw I still a map setup to figure out to to jump around to get ahead
, pm when you get a chance

[cpages2]

Sounds like this event will be great!!! My co-driver was nervious that you might up the rules and throw in a few traps. LOL

I will bring the tow vehicle, we will all be there very early so you will have time to go over the instructions with him.

- Mike

[_Charles_]

I sooooo wish I could make it. Team Charles will not be the same without a Charles. I'll be thinking about all of ya'll, but only for a split second. I should be on the "tail of the Dragon" at the same time. Finally, some much needed vacation in the mountains.

The original Team Charles WILL be back next Rally event, and will dominate the roads to cemeteries!!!

[treekiller]

If it's requested I can Prepare a NavX Rally but I don't think we are quite there yet. Perhaps after "Teh Tarmac Terror" which I intend to start introducing our Navigators to diffrent styles. I'll post a poll

[cpages2]

Jeff,

I need to talk to you when you can can you send me an e-mail or IM me today

cpages@tampabay.rr.com

[jlude90]

i think we'll be taking the Jeep, as the 3 cars we own have no engines and i'm not taking the S2000 :p

i'll register soon...god i hate procrastinating/being broke

[Loren]

Okay, Jeff. I'll be there at 9am. I even found someone to ride shotgun with me!

[treekiller]

For anyone Following this thread I was able to find some hand held With back light atomic clocks which would work great Velcro'd to the dashboard, we operate our event synced to atomic clock so it's only logical that it'll help someone score better. best thing they are on sale at Radio Shack for $14

Display seconds AND run in 24 hour mode... sounds like the perfect rally clock if you have a rally computer it'll make a terrific backup in case your computer loses power.

Radio Shack Catalog # 63-170

http://rsk.imageg.net/graphics/product_images/pRS1C-4183564w345.jpg

Works good, and our checkpoint workers will be scoring to them. the backlight is a bonus for night rallies

[NeedCAforS13]

Is there anywhere I can go read up on exactly how this type of rally racing is done? That breaks down timing and all the different parts you guys are talking about? Its my first one, and I'm kinda lost :P I don't want to show up and be completely ignorant of whats going on.

[treekiller]

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[cpages2]

Is there anywhere I can go read up on exactly how this type of rally racing is done? That breaks down timing and all the different parts you guys are talking about? Its my first one, and I'm kinda lost :P I don't want to show up and be completely ignorant of whats going on.

Sent you a PM

- Mike

[cpages2]

For anyone Following this thread I was able to find some hand held With back light atomic clocks which would work great Velcro'd to the dashboard, we operate our event synced to atomic clock so it's only logical that it'll help someone score better. best thing they are on sale at Radio Shack for $14

Display seconds AND run in 24 hour mode... sounds like the perfect rally clock if you have a rally computer it'll make a terrific backup in case your computer loses power.

Radio Shack Catalog # 63-170

http://rsk.imageg.net/graphics/product_images/pRS1C-4183564w345.jpg

Works good, and our checkpoint workers will be scoring to them. the backlight is a bonus for night rallies


Great piece. Just picked up one and mounted in teh car

- mike

[treekiller]

Great Mike now have you learned the auto-calibration function on the Alfa yet? If there is ONE function of the Alfa you learn by Sunday it's autocal. you navagator has to be REALLY good to use the CAS functions on the Alfa but if he can you'll be a Zero-Hero. but just knowing the exact. mileage to the thousandth you can pretty much drive the course without looking at the road. 90 right in 050 040 030 020 010 Turn!

[cpages2]

Great Mike now have you learned the auto-calibration function on the Alfa yet? If there is ONE function of the Alfa you learn by Sunday it's autocal. you navagator has to be REALLY good to use the CAS functions on the Alfa but if he can you'll be a Zero-Hero. but just knowing the exact. mileage to the thousandth you can pretty much drive the course without looking at the road. 90 right in 050 040 030 020 010 Turn!

Sadly we wont have the Alfa for this event. They said it will take 3-4 weeks to build then another week for shipping.

Next event though!!!

- Mike

[Mars_302]

high of 84 tomorrow afternoon, 10% chance of rain.

[treekiller]

little warm for rally weather, but nice no rain.