What is the best Complete Coilover set out there for Hondas? [Archive]

Outkasted24

10-04-2007, 11:26 PM

I am having a hella time trying to choose which Complete coilover system to purchase for my new Honda Project.

My Options are as follows............In Order from my most to least favorite

-K-Sport
-Form & Function
-D2
-Omni Power
-Skunk2
-Tein
-Apex-i
-Cusco
-NRG
-Ground Control
-Tanabe Sustic Pro
-BuddyClub
-HKS
-NEX

Unlike some of you Ballers out there, I have a Budget.
I'm looking to spend no more then $875-$900 MAX

I really want a Fully Adjustable Coilover System, I'm done with Shock/sleeve coilover/spring suspensions and I want something a little bit more edgy this time around.

I do Plan on Auto-x'ing this vehicle for fun, But it's also going to have to be my DD until sometime in early '08.

Please feel free to give your opinions, And If you have actually had hands on experience with one or more of these systems...... I'd love to hear your testimonial.

Also, With your coilover system, Were you ever able to "Dog Leg"/ 3 wheel motion your Vehicle?

Thanks in advance.

-Jeff

jlude90

10-04-2007, 11:55 PM

ksport=D2 if i remember right, both are great for the price from what i hear, but it looks like your top 4 will set you straight

these are just opinions though, based solely off hearsay, i have no first hand experience :)

Outkasted24

10-07-2007, 08:43 PM

So-far, I think I'm going to go with Form & Function.
Has anyone had first hand experience with this setup?

http://http://www.jhpusa.com/catalog/images/funcform.sus.jpg
Function Form is a 24 way damper and rebound adjustable monotube full coilover system. The setup has separate height and preload adjustments allowing for optimal adjustment and allowing full strut travel at all times along with pillowball upper mounts or top mounts*. Mounts are constructed of 6061 powder coated aluminum with T6 for added strength. Threads are Teflon coated to prevent rust. Rebuildable and serviceable in the US. 1 YEAR MANUFACTURER WARRANTY

RoadRacer

10-08-2007, 04:32 PM

PIC Performance does a lot of R&D with Honda's.
Their reliability is very good.

clean teg

10-08-2007, 07:49 PM

I hear on honda-tech the buddyclubs are bad ass

Outkasted24

10-08-2007, 09:46 PM

I hear on honda-tech the buddyclubs are bad ass

And a lot of money :oops: , I'm a Baller on a budget this time around. :D

clean teg

10-09-2007, 06:37 PM

Just A Comment

clean teg

10-09-2007, 06:39 PM

Witch Ones Are You Leaning Tords

Outkasted24

10-09-2007, 09:29 PM

Just A Comment That's Kool Bro :D

F&F FTW

clean teg

10-11-2007, 04:11 PM

Witch Ones Are You Leaning Tords
????:)

Outkasted24

10-11-2007, 06:03 PM

????:)
-Form & Function 36 way with a set of Function 7 LCAs

dscivicdx

10-12-2007, 11:20 AM

+1 on the PIC selects. they are gaining a lot of support with the honda challenge guys and they are only like $900 or so.
i was going to get them, but found out i can get a good deal on a set of Stance coilovers, which is what i really wanted.

Willis

10-12-2007, 11:22 AM

Buddy of mine has some PIC coilovers on his type R, WOW they are nice and are priced desently as well. G/L

lzylst

10-12-2007, 05:05 PM

K-sports ftw.......... have them personally and for the price I paid unbelievable.

PM me Jeff where I got them.

Outkasted24

10-12-2007, 06:30 PM

K-sports ftw.......... have them personally and for the price I paid unbelievable.

PM me Jeff where I got them.
PMed :D

dscivicdx

10-17-2007, 11:26 AM

so what are you getting?

Outkasted24

10-17-2007, 04:25 PM

so what are you getting?

I think I'm taking Willis' Advice by going with the PIC brand Coilovers & LCAs.

Willis

10-17-2007, 05:01 PM

I think I'm taking Willis' Advice by going with the PIC brand Coilovers & LCAs.

good choice:D

dgixxer252525

10-17-2007, 05:06 PM

good choice...i would say go with PIC or Ground Conrol with Koni yellows...that is what all the ITR guys use on honda-tech. I personally have tried ground controls and loved them, and ive also tried function and form and hated them

Outkasted24

10-17-2007, 06:03 PM

ive also tried function and form and hated them

Why So?

Outkasted24

10-17-2007, 06:24 PM

Buddy of mine has some PIC coilovers on his type R, WOW they are nice and are priced desently as well. G/L

They are very nice Coilovers, But are they adjustable?

Willis

10-17-2007, 07:36 PM

yea fully adjustable google PIC coilovers

dscivicdx

10-18-2007, 02:09 PM

yeah, the PIC Selects that i mentioned are the fully adjustable ones.

Buy PIC Select - Honda (http://picperformance.com/store/scripts/prodView.asp?idProduct=192)

Outkasted24

10-18-2007, 04:28 PM

yeah, the PIC Selects that i mentioned are the fully adjustable ones.

Buy PIC Select - Honda (http://picperformance.com/store/scripts/prodView.asp?idProduct=192)

Yep, I had a long and informative conversation with the Owner of the company and PIC Performance is the way I'm going.
$1270.10 Shipped for the PIC Select *P2 - 10kF/8kR Coilover Kit and the RR LCAs with 1 year warranty and 5% discount FTMFW!!!.

I'm Sold!!!

RoadRacer

10-18-2007, 08:23 PM

Yep, I had a long and informative conversation with the Owner of the company and PIC Performance is the way I'm going.
$1270.10 Shipped for the PIC Select *P2 - 10kF/8kR Coilover Kit and the RR LCAs with 1 year warranty and 5% discount FTMFW!!!.

I'm Sold!!!

Good choice I run 10/8 on my ef
Can you share some of your questions and his answers?

Outkasted24

10-18-2007, 08:31 PM

Good choice I run 10/8 on my ef
Can you share some of your questions and his answers?

Sure, Let me go copy and paste out of my IMs, I also got a lot of info from here Honda-Tech.com: Suspension: Full Review: PIC Performance Select Coilovers *Pics inside* (http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1816653)

Steez

10-21-2007, 02:54 PM

Outkasted24

10-21-2007, 03:38 PM

Outkasted, let me know when you get the PICs how they ride and everything. I'm also upgrading my suspension and was looking into them but my car is my daily/auto X car for now and I was wondering how they were from someone that has them on the car.

Yeah Buddy, I'll let you know when the get installed.... Probably the second week of November or so.
As soon as the car is done I'll be showing up to some of the meets/shows, I'll take ya around the block so you can feel first hand how the coilovers handle.

CEMAYHALL

10-22-2007, 03:31 PM

Jeff, why dont you just heat them :dunno:

:lmao:

Outkasted24

10-22-2007, 05:05 PM

Jeff, why dont you just heat them :dunno:

Kuz my torch is broke and I ran outta Dremmel cut-off wheelz :lol:

:lmao:

CEMAYHALL

10-22-2007, 07:52 PM

Kuz my torch is broke and I ran outta Dremmel cut-off wheelz :lol:

You should have asked me... I can run up to the store to go and buy you a 12 pack of BIC lighters! Then you can heat everyones springs!!! :razz:

Outkasted24

10-22-2007, 09:52 PM

You should have asked me... I can run up to the store to go and buy you a 12 pack of BIC lighters! Then you can heat everyones springs!!! :razz:
Tru Tru !!!
While we are at it, Lets just roll out to Advanced Auto, get some spring clamps, And throw those puppies on the fronts, We can jack some cinder blocks from a construction site and load up the trunk to lower the rear.
Sound like a plan? Ahhhhhh Good Timez, Good Timez :lol:

clean teg

10-23-2007, 04:51 PM

1,270.00 and you said buddyclubs coilovers were out of your range baller on a buget my ass what next five lug conversion and 16s sprint harts cp-f or cp-r lol

Outkasted24

10-23-2007, 05:47 PM

1,270.00 and you said buddyclubs coilovers were out of your range baller on a buget my ass what next five lug conversion and 16s sprint harts cp-f or cp-r lol

Well, Things change I guess, New JOB, paid vacation & Bonus from old job & 401K from old job and The Friggin Jetta Sold Finally!!! :D And nope, No 5 lug or Cheap ass Racing Harts for this Balla, :lol: j/p
I bought some Sick Ass Ultra Rare 15x7.5" wheels that are one of a kind !!!!! No Joke!!! No BS!!!! I have to go to Miami to pick them up this weekend, But you all have to wait until they are on the car to see.......Sorry :D

clean teg

10-23-2007, 07:00 PM

Well, Things change I guess, New JOB, paid vacation & Bonus from old job & 401K from old job and The Friggin Jetta Sold Finally!!! :D And nope, No 5 lug or Cheap ass Racing Harts for this Balla, :lol: j/p
I bought some Sick Ass Ultra Rare 15x7.5" wheels that are one of a kind !!!!! No Joke!!! No BS!!!! I have to go to Miami to pick them up this weekend, But you all have to wait until they are on the car to see.......Sorry :D
racig harts:thumbdwn: SPRINT HARTS :bigthumb: ALSO CONGRATS ON ALL THATS GOING GOOD FOR YOU. SO NO NEED TO HOLD ONTO THE SLIPS :dunno:SNEAK ME A PM OF THE WHEELS;)

Outkasted24

10-24-2007, 10:52 AM

racig harts:thumbdwn: SPRINT HARTS :bigthumb: ALSO CONGRATS ON ALL THATS GOING GOOD FOR YOU. SO NO NEED TO HOLD ONTO THE SLIPS :dunno:SNEAK ME A PM OF THE WHEELS;)

Yeah Yeah, I still want the slips to roll on as a DD wheel!!!!
No pics of the wheels, but do you wanna take a road trip to Miami with me to pick them up?
PM for details :D

Mike K.

10-27-2007, 08:58 PM

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c174/lsteg2001/elcamino20015.jpg

One of my personal favorite DA's with K-sports. Pretty low lol.

RoadRacer

11-07-2007, 07:55 PM

Yeah Yeah, I still want the slips to roll on as a DD wheel!!!!
No pics of the wheels, but do you wanna take a road trip to Miami with me to pick them up?
PM for details :D

Did you get the coilovers yet?

Outkasted24

11-07-2007, 10:13 PM

Did you get the coilovers yet?

Yep, came in via UPS yesterday and they are so damn sexy lookin!!!
I almost don't want to install them under that dirty car, instead hang em' on the wall and glare at them all day long. :naughty: :D

RoadRacer

11-08-2007, 03:40 PM

Good deal, take some pictures!

Mars_302

11-09-2007, 01:34 AM

Does Megan Racing making coilover for your car? We installed a set on a s2k, they were a nice looking piece and was only $800 for an s2k

Outkasted24

11-09-2007, 11:01 AM

Good deal, take some pictures!
Yes, I'll take pics today !!! Promise!!! ;)

Does Megan Racing making coilover for your car? We installed a set on a s2k, they were a nice looking piece and was only $800 for an s2k

Yeah, I believe Megan makes coilover kits for almost all popular makes and models now a days.
They look nice (from what I've seen), But in my mind it's just another cheap ebay brand that stole the design from someone else and mass produces their product.

PIC Performance on the other hand is just a bit more money, But they back their product up 100%, They have graphs and guides to prove the performance aspect of their product, The company is actually a father/Son team that professionally races and uses all of their products to compete, They have had a few setbacks and design changes in the past 2 years and are not afraid to post their once weaknesses and show how they fixed it.

The materials that PIC use are rigoursly bench tested and cost a bit more money, But in the long run they won't fail a year or two down the road and if they do, The company stands behind the replacement.
They also design their own materials (oil mixtures in their coilovers and rubber/poly mixture in their own produced bushings.

PIC in my mind is a true professional Company that stands behind their belief, materials, and design..... and is willing to but the money where their mouth is, Kinda like what Benen Industries evolved out of.

Outkasted24

11-09-2007, 11:11 AM

PIC P2 Selects for 90-93 Da Integra....... Read up and see for your selves!!!
Buy "RR" Rear Lower Control Arms (http://picperformance.com/store/scripts/prodView.asp?idproduct=202)
Buy PIC Select - Honda (http://picperformance.com/store/scripts/prodView.asp?idproduct=192)

BTW: I didn't pay those prices :D Kuz that's How I roll..........................

clean teg

11-10-2007, 11:34 AM

Wow Those Are Nice

Outkasted24

11-10-2007, 01:45 PM

My Pics will be up in a few............................................... .....................
Sorry for the delay :(

Outkasted24

11-13-2007, 08:05 AM

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clean teg

11-13-2007, 02:36 PM

there Here Hehe

clean teg

11-13-2007, 02:37 PM

Sexy Time

robofunc

11-14-2007, 01:27 PM

Outkasted24

11-14-2007, 06:29 PM

Those look really nice.

I'm suspension shopping, too and until this thread I was pretty dead-set on Omni Powers (independent adjustable preload/ride-height, non-adj dampers). Where did you order your PICs from? I'm curious...

Also, why did you get the LCAs? Other than poly bushings and marginal weight savings (and looking way cooler than stock), I can't find a reason to get them. Is there something I don't know?

I ordered them from Matt Lang @ MLR Motorsports: Race prepping, Race Car Building, and Acura & Honda Performance Aftermarket Parts (http://www.mlrmotorsports.com) , located in Bedminster, NJ.

Reason I ordered the LCAs : Light weight Forged 6061-T6 aluminum arm, with aerospace-grade spherical bearings replacing the outboard and inboard hard-rubber bushings, and polyurethane replacing the center shock-mount bushing to eliminate deflection (unwanted camber and toe changes during suspension travel.

They also look bling under the car, and it gives me a better spot to mount an end-link for a JDM ITR Swaybar .........vs. the crap/few choices of aftermarket sways produced only for the DA.

Josh.

11-19-2007, 08:48 PM

I heard Form/Function leaks, From a couple people actually. I have also rode in an 01' GSR with F/F and didnt think TO highly but thought they were decent.

I just ordered Tein Basic Dampers today so ill tell you how those feel shortly ;-)

Outkasted24

11-19-2007, 10:03 PM

I
I just ordered Tein Basic Dampers today so ill tell you how those feel shortly ;-)

Nice Choice!! :thumbup:

robofunc

11-29-2007, 05:06 PM

I ordered them from Matt Lang @ MLR Motorsports: Race prepping, Race Car Building, and Acura & Honda Performance Aftermarket Parts (http://www.mlrmotorsports.com) , located in Bedminster, NJ.

Reason I ordered the LCAs : Light weight Forged 6061-T6 aluminum arm, with aerospace-grade spherical bearings replacing the outboard and inboard hard-rubber bushings, and polyurethane replacing the center shock-mount bushing to eliminate deflection (unwanted camber and toe changes during suspension travel.

They also look bling under the car, and it gives me a better spot to mount an end-link for a JDM ITR Swaybar .........vs. the crap/few choices of aftermarket sways produced only for the DA.

Thanks for the MLR link!

Ohhh. Now I want LCAs, too. Guess everyone's getting hand-made cards again this Christmas...

robofunc

11-29-2007, 05:09 PM