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lordy lordy sweet240
10-04-2007, 02:39 PM
Hey Everyone, I just bought an 89 240sx. I want to get into drifting. I'm starting with suspension and an engine, but i was a little confused about what suspension parts I need. Is there a certain site for drift suspension. Whats the difference between track and drift suspensions. The first thing that i'm going to buy are the swaybars, but what lenght? What brand is the best. What other parts are essential for drifting in the feild of suspension? Thanks for the help.

Ronald Mcdonald
10-04-2007, 03:41 PM
Ok, first off, do lot's and lot's of research.

If you are going on a budget, get some badgerworks coilovers. Badger Werks: For the Win (http://www.badgerftw.com)

Then get a Battle version/or any other mult-link setup. You can get those through tons of sites, like Enjukuracing.com

Don't even worry about the motor until you have the suspension done, and you are comfortable driving the car with that setup.

Make sure you do all the general maintenance on your car, cause drifting is the most harmful motor sport, besides rally racing.

It would be good to attend a few autocross events to get a feel for the limits of the car, and yourself.

That's all I'm going to say for now.

lordy lordy sweet240
10-04-2007, 05:59 PM
thanks guys. Also, I'm not sure what trim this car is. Ti doesnt say on the title or VIN number. It has power windows, locks, all around disk brakes. No sunroof. Cruise control.

Ronald Mcdonald
10-04-2007, 06:30 PM
thanks guys. Also, I'm not sure what trim this car is. Ti doesnt say on the title or VIN number. It has power windows, locks, all around disk brakes. No sunroof. Cruise control.

Sounds like an SE, but check it out with this site:

THE GARAGE GUIDES - 240SX VIN / Model ID Decoding (http://garage.projectraine.com/content_guides/240_vinmid/vinmid01.html)

4wheeldriftS13
10-07-2007, 06:23 PM
Make sure the car runs well, replace anything necessary, knocks,creaks, leaks, tie downs, loose parts, learn how to drift it stock then worry about coils.. it all depends on your budget..

EroticA
10-07-2007, 06:31 PM
a welded diff and cheaper coilovers will do you wondering for the beginners stage of learning to drift.

titan uranus
10-07-2007, 07:37 PM
Hey Everyone, I just bought an 89 240sx. I want to get into drifting. I'm starting with suspension and an engine, but i was a little confused about what suspension parts I need. Is there a certain site for drift suspension. Whats the difference between track and drift suspensions. The first thing that i'm going to buy are the swaybars, but what lenght? What brand is the best. What other parts are essential for drifting in the feild of suspension? Thanks for the help.
Ok first, weld the diff, or buy an expensive 2 way.
as far as what supension parts you need, coil overs, tc rods are the best place to start.
The track models are for track use, usually much stiffer etc etc, street models will ride a little nice but wont perform as good.
Do not waste your time or money as sway bars right now. and they dont come in lengths, the come in diameters.

REY
10-07-2007, 09:37 PM
^^ thank you guys for POSITIVE responses to this member's question...
All of the ignorant sarcastic responses have been removed and you have been warned.

titan uranus
10-07-2007, 10:34 PM
Try to make it out to a desoto drift test and tune, everyone is willing to help teach, and we have a couple pro drivers who come out to instruct.

EroticA
10-07-2007, 10:35 PM
ya what chris said... refer to my previous post too... if this kid doesnt pick up my open diff, i have a diff ill sell you. all you have to do is get it welded.

doodoobrown69
10-08-2007, 12:40 AM
if i could go back and do it again this is what i would do.

1. fix anything broken(like that one guy said), replace brake pads
2. buy some new front tires
3. cut the springs (or buy coilovers).
4. weld the dif.
5. drive your car as much as possible.

from what ive learned, drifting a car that you put 1,500 into is sooooooooooooo much more fun then drifting a car you put 5,000 + in to.

the S13 is to cars what the AK47 is to guns.

drifting is about finesse(and reliability) not power, at least to me it is

titan uranus
10-08-2007, 07:50 AM
if i could go back and do it again this is what i would do.

1. fix anything broken(like that one guy said), replace brake pads
2. buy some new front tires
3. cut the springs (or buy coilovers).
4. weld the dif.
5. drive your car as much as possible.

from what ive learned, drifting a car that you put 1,500 into is sooooooooooooo much more fun then drifting a car you put 5,000 + in to.

the S13 is to cars what the AK47 is to guns.

drifting is about finesse(and reliability) not power, at least to me it is

+1 except for the cut springs thing

4wheeldriftS13
10-08-2007, 01:49 PM
I forgot to mention weld the diff, but I thought a differential change (clutch type, QUAIFE, Welded) was implied after you learn how to drift the peg leg.. learn to drift without relying on the welded diff.

asia989
10-10-2007, 03:26 PM
I forgot to mention weld the diff, but I thought a differential change (clutch type, QUAIFE, Welded) was implied after you learn how to drift the peg leg.. learn to drift without relying on the welded diff.
u go from peg leg to viscous then to welded

senor honda
10-10-2007, 04:10 PM
I would get sway bars first to keep it stable. Lower it, but only to the point for now, that stock adjusters are still used.

Stay with skinny tires until you have some horses to break the car loose. Get cheap tires from the junkyard, until you get a tire sponsor. Hit some practice/autocross schools to get the feel of driving/sliding. Check TR's events/autocross/forums.

Big s-bar on the back will bring the back around. Get one cheap from the junkyard. I have made brackets to mount stock double s-bars on my car.

Heavier bars come from top of the line cars......LX has bigger than DX's,
"sport" models have bigger than low dollar cars.

When you want someone to look at what size bars you have and what you should go to, based on how it handles, pm me. It might be a fun project
to help you out.

Buy me lunch at one of the schools, Ft Myers, etc. and we can try some setups....need to see what you have on it now.-Bob

Going to the JDM meet in Clearwater this Sunday 14 October?

titan uranus
10-10-2007, 07:45 PM
u go from peg leg to viscous then to welded
you mean peg leg, to soon to be peg leg to welded? skip the b/s save some money, and learn how to drive like a man on a welded

titan uranus
10-10-2007, 07:47 PM
He is just looking for basic mod to get his car ready to drift, and almost all the time, im not saying in his case but I will assume on the side of majority that he is trying to do all mods on a budget, which is I why i suggested the original list to him and will stand by that list till i die. in the professional series,most drivers remove their sway bars for more traction, so why spend the extra money to upgrade?

box240mod
10-10-2007, 08:00 PM
ok for starters, my car i take and drift at the pro events has stock sway bars...

i would say weld the diff, get generic front and rear strut tower bars, and get kyb agx shocks and eibach sportline springs. with a dohc/ka24de and that setup you'll have plenty of fun with about 800$ in mods or less. if you want more suspension control, up it to coilovers, megan 8k/6k street coilovers are pretty nice and less than 1k. i would check all the alightment/steering bushings and rods for weak spots, but my '90 never had those replaced.

if you cant drift the car like that, wait until you can or find a new hobbie. :)

asia989
10-11-2007, 04:44 AM
you mean peg leg, to soon to be peg leg to welded? skip the b/s save some money, and learn how to drive like a man on a weldedgotta learn to walk before u can run

titan uranus
10-11-2007, 07:40 AM
gotta learn to walk before u can run
I dunno in my opinion the welded is easier to drift with than a vlsd (at least you know it will be consistant)and way easier than an open. same response as a 2 way, except it does tend to oversteer a little more, but if you can learn to controll that, then by the time you have the money for a real 2 way. you will be true man.

box240mod
10-11-2007, 10:10 AM
yea there is no reason to struggle on a open or vlsd... just go get welded because if you dont, car reacts way differently when both wheels are goin, expecially in transfers- so you have to relearn stuff later when you do weld it. walk before you run yes, but thats more of a power/big mod thing. car is much less driftable with open. Caseys sohc that i drove was sweet, only diff between his car and my old one was basically the welded.

jonBODON
10-11-2007, 12:03 PM
Almost all shocks that have the spring as part of the shocks are coilovers.
ADJUSTABLE coilovers allow you to lift or lower the car, change roll centers and the cars handling, and tune it for each track.

As he says....... welded diff means you just about MUST slide it around turns......or back up and try again on the street.

If you have high dollars, you could also buy a caged/sub framed
car to start with, with all the goodies. Unfortunately we are in Florida
and you are in NM, so I cannot show you how to build a low dollar car
......................that can be tossed into a drift, based on your particular
driving style.........too bad on that..... -Bob
Sir you are a bad ass, just thought you should know.

titan uranus
10-11-2007, 06:34 PM
<3 welded

mranlet
10-11-2007, 10:46 PM
I made a comprehensive write-up just for this sort of question:
http://www.tamparacing.com/forums/drifting-tech/384681-5-things-make-badass-drift-car.html

FinaL
10-13-2007, 07:28 PM
hell if u have dirt rds near u break it loose there and learn to control the car thats what i do

REY
10-14-2007, 10:56 AM
I made a comprehensive write-up just for this sort of question:
http://www.tamparacing.com/forums/drifting-tech/384681-5-things-make-badass-drift-car.html


exactly.... !!!

I should have linked it before !...

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