View Full Version : BUILT DSM vs Ported Blower 03 COBRA!
2 ROWDY
07-12-2007, 01:54 AM
I just found this video I made a long time ago, it’s a pretty damn good run! (This was in Chicago) Kinda funny an 03 Cobra with $2,000 into it is pretty even with a DSM that has $20,000 in it! :lol: But don't get me wrong I love dsms, and this was a race between friends...
-500whp 03 Cobra:
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GsT Racer
07-12-2007, 05:40 PM
this just goes for all those civic and whatever else owners in the war stories who are like "yeah i was in my civic with i/h/e just cruising along and an 03 cobra with blower PROCEDED (i love how everyone uses that word) to drive up next to me, and i smoked him from a 30 roll all the way up to 287mph".
nice vid, i think the guy in the dsm just didnt know how to drive. not being biased to dsms, but hes got a lot of crap done to that car, maybe the video was taken after he just rebuilt the engine or something and he had to let it break in, so he couldnt go past 4500 rpms or something. i dunno... good kill for the cobra.
F4A22
07-12-2007, 07:39 PM
Thats the slowest 500 hp dsm ive ever seen or your cobra is more powerful than what you say.Maybe a dig he would have given you a better run?
GsT Racer
07-12-2007, 07:51 PM
Thats the slowest 500 hp dsm ive ever seen or your cobra is more powerful than what you say.Maybe a dig he would have given you a better run?
yeah something must have been wrong with the dsm. untuned or something. im not saying that an 03 cobra isnt fast, because they are. but if you invest 20 grand into an already quick car, you would think that you should at least be running high 9's to mid 10's. lol
this is an interesting vid, and should make for good discussion.
GsEclipse02
07-12-2007, 08:38 PM
A upper lower heat exchangered Cobra like that should run a high 11 with a good driver ....
Looked like the DSM driver wasnt the greatest , and he still managed to pull quite a bit between the gears ..
Looks like the typical fast car slow driver .vs. quick car good driver combo to me
F4A22
07-12-2007, 09:04 PM
A upper lower heat exchangered Cobra like that should run a high 11 with a good driver ....
Looked like the DSM driver wasnt the greatest , and he still managed to pull quite a bit between the gears ..
Looks like the typical fast car slow driver .vs. quick car good driver combo to me
Yea but from a roll it should have been a better run.Shit riven@400 hp with 4 people in the car gave cbr's old cobra a better run than that.What driver skill do you need in a roll?Fuckin mash and shift.
GsT Racer
07-12-2007, 09:14 PM
well he could have brake boosted or double-clutched, doing those wrong or not at all could have seriously affected the outcome. it didnt sound like he did either though.
2 ROWDY
07-13-2007, 03:28 AM
this just goes for all those civic and whatever else owners in the war stories who are like "yeah i was in my civic with i/h/e just cruising along and an 03 cobra with blower PROCEDED (i love how everyone uses that word) to drive up next to me, and i smoked him from a 30 roll all the way up to 287mph".
nice vid, i think the guy in the dsm just didnt know how to drive. not being biased to dsms, but hes got a lot of crap done to that car, maybe the video was taken after he just rebuilt the engine or something and he had to let it break in, so he couldnt go past 4500 rpms or something. i dunno... good kill for the cobra.
Not at all, They are both good friends of mine. The DSM was making about 490-500awhp that night and the Cobra put down 500whp and 5XXwtq. They are both good drivers and the DSM break boosted the second run. The Cobra is a solid 11.40 car and the DSM went 11.20 on that set up if I recall correctly. You need to remember that AWD cars are NOT fast from a roll! I beat my friends Evo 9 last night from a 50 roll in my slow ass mustang! So yes, the DSM does have a "lot of crap" done to the car, but no it was running just fine and being driven by a good driver...
2 ROWDY
07-13-2007, 03:32 AM
A upper lower heat exchangered Cobra like that should run a high 11 with a good driver ....
Looked like the DSM driver wasnt the greatest , and he still managed to pull quite a bit between the gears ..
Looks like the typical fast car slow driver .vs. quick car good driver combo to me
No, I bet he is a better driver than you...
He is also an Engineer and is a Licenced AEM EMS tuner. He wasn't power shifting, but shifted the car quickly while keeping it in-boost without hurting the stock tranny.
Again it was a fun race between two friends, come on DSM guys... don't get your panties in a bunch!
I'm a DSM guy too, the DSM in this video is quick, but this just goes to show how nasty 03 Cobras really are.
The DSM is a lot faster now, and if it makes you guys feel any better my friend with the 03 Cobra has since sold it and now owns a very very nasty DSM that will fuck up the DSM from the video and ANY AWD DSM on this forum! Hands down!
THE_ONE
07-13-2007, 09:09 AM
No, I bet he is a better driver than you...
He is also an Engineer and is a Licenced AEM EMS tuner. He wasn't power shifting, but shifted the car quickly while keeping it in-boost without hurting the stock tranny.
Again it was a fun race between two friends, come on DSM guys... don't get your panties in a bunch!
I'm a DSM guy too, the DSM in this video is quick, but this just goes to show how nasty 03 Cobras really are.
The DSM is a lot faster now, and if it makes you guys feel any better my friend with the 03 Cobra has since sold it and now owns a very very nasty DSM that will fuck up the DSM from the video and ANY DSM or Subaru on this forum! Hands down!And his name is Eric from AMS right!!! Otherwise I think not. "Unless this guy doesn't live in the Bay area"
Some info on this Nasty Dsm please
Hp/Tq
turbo
rpm/shift point
awd?
street car or not?
ET at the track?
Vehicle weight
Careful how you answer, we're not idiots. One thing I do agree with, I'm sure he is a better driver than Julian :lol:
accord95
07-13-2007, 01:18 PM
this just goes for all those civic and whatever else owners in the war stories who are like "yeah i was in my civic with i/h/e just cruising along and an 03 cobra with blower PROCEDED (i love how everyone uses that word) to drive up next to me, and i smoked him from a 30 roll all the way up to 287mph".
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there are people on TR with OEM builds(switching stock heads and/or stock blocks), running 11's n/a, with not one aftermarket internal part. although it is rare, some people know what they are doing, most are old-school and been building honda's since you were 10 years old.
accord95
07-13-2007, 01:26 PM
a very very nasty DSM that will fuck up the DSM from the video and ANY DSM or Subaru on this forum! Hands down!
faster than the yellow mirage?
THE ONE, who has the fastest in tampa? jerry?
THE_ONE
07-13-2007, 02:14 PM
faster than the yellow mirage?
THE ONE, who has the fastest in tampa? jerry?To my knowlege he is. Well for now
GsEclipse02
07-13-2007, 02:50 PM
To my knowlege he is. Well for now
that was jap posting under my name ...
i dont think you will ever beat jerry no matter how much you dump into the civic .02
F4A22
07-13-2007, 02:59 PM
I think eaglesfly(10.1@140ish)the 9 sec streetable talon,and procco's evo (sp?) also post on here rarely but thier from orlando.As far as tampa i think Jerry and nemesis are the fastest.
accord95
07-13-2007, 03:13 PM
n/m
THE_ONE
07-13-2007, 03:19 PM
that was jap posting under my name ...
i dont think you will ever beat jerry no matter how much you dump into the civic .02Want to place a bet on it, He has all that extra weight from you hanging on his nuts. Shouldn't be any reason why not ;)
THE_ONE
07-13-2007, 03:21 PM
I think eaglesfly(10.1@140ish)the 9 sec streetable talon,and procco's evo (sp?) also post on here rarely but thier from orlando.As far as tampa i think Jerry and nemesis are the fastest.Very true, but Evo's supposely are not DSM's
THE_ONE
07-13-2007, 03:24 PM
no, he said his friends DSM in chicago will beat any DSM on TR, not a civic. so i was questioning if it was faster than jerry's, and if jerry is the fastest in tampa. I believe Jerry is the fastest in Tampa. Also everytime I call my car a Civic the Honda guys tend to disagree. Being that it consists of mostly dsm parts I call it a dsm or ma Honsubishi....
DC Dave
07-13-2007, 05:08 PM
faster than the yellow mirage?
THE ONE, who has the fastest in tampa? jerry?
the dsm he is talking about is from chitown... and yes it would hands down lay it down... and this is coming from my mouth
the dsm he is talking about is from chitown... and yes it would hands down lay it down... and this is coming from my mouth
Littering and .... Littering and..................................... Smoking the Refer
I'd like to see him beat Jerry on the street
DC Dave
07-13-2007, 10:22 PM
idk if he is coming down so i cant say yes
THE_ONE
07-13-2007, 10:40 PM
Littering and .... Littering and..................................... Smoking the Refer
I'd like to see him beat Jerry on the street+1
2 ROWDY
07-13-2007, 11:14 PM
And his name is Eric from AMS right!!! Otherwise I think not. "Unless this guy doesn't live in the Bay area"
Some info on this Nasty Dsm please
Hp/Tq
turbo
rpm/shift point
awd?
street car or not?
ET at the track?
Vehicle weight
Careful how you answer, we're not idiots. One thing I do agree with, I'm sure he is a better driver than Julian :lol:
LoL no it is not Eric's car, but he was going to use Erics tranny...
The car is NOT from the Bay area, it from Chicago and Built by AMS and Devo Tuning.
The only thing I can say about the car is that it is AWD adn 5-speed.... oh yea it's on a stock turbo too :lol:
I cannot give any other information as to what it has done. Street racing is a lot more serious up there, everything is for money... so most cars keep their mod list and E.T. on the DL to keep everything more exciting!
The car will be down here sooner or later and he is always ready to sack up and get down for a few hundred bucks...
Thanks.
2 ROWDY
07-13-2007, 11:19 PM
Littering and .... Littering and..................................... Smoking the Refer
I'd like to see him beat Jerry on the street
Heads up, hoods shut, prepped concrete road, and a min of $500 and you have yourself a race my friend!
:)
2 ROWDY
07-13-2007, 11:20 PM
idk if he is coming down so i cant say yes
David, what are we thinking? Nicks DSM is slow...
THE_ONE
07-13-2007, 11:25 PM
Heads up, hoods shut, prepped concrete road, and a min of $500 and you have yourself a race my friend!
:)
Heads up, hoods shut, unprepped blacktop road, and a min of $500 and run what you brung. Street car to street car! :D
Although, everyone needs to stop throwing him out there including I. While I'm over there in the morning I will mention this thread to him and see if he cares to chime in for himself if interested.
2 ROWDY
07-15-2007, 11:05 AM
^ I don't think my friend races on blacktop... he really prefers concrete, but I'm sure we can work something out when he comes down! :)
2ndGenDsm
07-15-2007, 06:02 PM
Can I run this guy when he comes to t-town too??? I think if he's to beat me then he can race miguel in his civic, and then for some reason he beats miguel then he should race jerry....
DC Dave
07-15-2007, 06:05 PM
yea thats fine, 2 rowdy just has to talk to him
Shadytrixta1
07-15-2007, 10:31 PM
Steve way to throw him under the bus you know he's not even an 11 sec car lol!
2 ROWDY
07-15-2007, 11:54 PM
^^^ I Said He Would Race A Dsm, Not A Dsm Powered Tin Can That Weighs 2000lbs!!! Lol
2 ROWDY
07-16-2007, 12:00 AM
An awd civic w/ a 4G63 is in a different class... even the Mirage is gonna be nasty with just 400hp... I know, we had an Evo 2... the fastest one in the world actaully... I'm sure he will get down with anyone, but as far as racing an awd gutted hatch vs his full weight 2G DSM thats not exactly what I meant when I said he would "race any dsm" ... NOT any DSM Powered car LOL.... but never the less we will have some fun and have to get off a bunch of races.
PS, I wish we never sold that Evo 2.... I would have it right now :/
THE_ONE
07-16-2007, 12:03 AM
^^^ I Said He Would Race A Dsm, Not A Dsm Powered Tin Can That Weighs 2000lbs!!! LolBro your an idiot, I would like to see you bet 2k that my civic weighs 2000lbs. It weighs 300 less than a full weight 1g.
Your friend is coming down here to get owned, when is this supposed to be any way so I can speed up the progress on my project!
2ndGenDsm
07-16-2007, 01:27 AM
+1
Bro your an idiot, I would like to see you bet 2k that my civic weighs 2000lbs. It weighs 300 less than a full weight 1g.
Your friend is coming down here to get owned, when is this supposed to be any way so I can speed up the progress on my project!
98SR20DE(t)
07-16-2007, 02:36 AM
Bro your an idiot, I would like to see you bet 2k that my civic weighs 2000lbs. It weighs 300 less than a full weight 1g.
Your friend is coming down here to get owned, when is this supposed to be any way so I can speed up the progress on my project!
All i mean is that it's light as fuck and you know that...
I said he would fuck up any DSM on the street... not any 4G powered car...
Now, I didn't want to start shit over this, especially with the DSM guys...
He will run you when the car comes down here, but it might be a little while he is changing his set-up a little bit right now and still has some work to do on the car.
It would just be fun to have a little DSM shootout on the street for the fast DSMs in Tampa... that's all im trying to get out of this, as well as some locked in races so he doesn't come down just to sit around.
I'm not sure when he is coming down, he just needs to get a trailer and finish a few things up on the car... but school is starting soon for him so if he doesn't make it down by summer it would have to be a break during school................
2 ROWDY
07-16-2007, 02:37 AM
^my bad I was logged into a friend's user name....
2 ROWDY
07-16-2007, 02:38 AM
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2 ROWDY
07-16-2007, 02:39 AM
Can I run this guy when he comes to t-town too??? I think if he's to beat me then he can race miguel in his civic, and then for some reason he beats miguel then he should race jerry....
if you put some $ on it....
THE_ONE
07-16-2007, 10:28 AM
All i mean is that it's light as fuck and you know that...
I said he would fuck up any DSM on the street... not any 4G powered car...
Now, I didn't want to start shit over this, especially with the DSM guys...
He will run you when the car comes down here, but it might be a little while he is changing his set-up a little bit right now and still has some work to do on the car.
It would just be fun to have a little DSM shootout on the street for the fast DSMs in Tampa... that's all im trying to get out of this, as well as some locked in races so he doesn't come down just to sit around.
I'm not sure when he is coming down, he just needs to get a trailer and finish a few things up on the car... but school is starting soon for him so if he doesn't make it down by summer it would have to be a break during school................Its cool man, just saying I don't have a gutted shell with a 4g63 in it. My car is just as heavy as Jerry's car if not more but by your friend taking his time that will no longer be the case by the time this goes down. Its an EK not an EG or CRX. Its all good man, if he's skurred I understand. Tell him to take his time, the more he takes the better it will be for both sides :cool:
Shadytrixta1
07-16-2007, 11:35 AM
Man typical tr turns a good discussion into everyone getting their panties in a wad!
accord95
07-16-2007, 12:55 PM
Man typical tr turns a good discussion into everyone getting their panties in a wad!
the statment that set it off was about there being no DSM in tampa that can beat this chi-town DSM. only reason i raised the question is because i didnt know if 2rowdy actually knows what all the DSM's on this board run, to make a statement like that. i know it will be a street race, but what are their track times? isnt jerry's DSM in the 9's in the 1/4?
F4A22
07-16-2007, 02:24 PM
the statment that set it off was about there being no DSM in tampa that can beat this chi-town DSM. only reason i raised the question is because i didnt know if 2rowdy actually knows what all the DSM's on this board run, to make a statement like that. i know it will be a street race, but what are their track times? isnt jerry's DSM in the 9's in the 1/4?
10.25 at 134 on his old setup and he's making more power now.He also hits the brakes on his runs(before the end of the 1/4) if anybody notices.He's told me he doesnt wanna wear a firesuit or put a cage in the car so Bmp will be happy.:lol:
Tom N
07-16-2007, 03:23 PM
Only dsm around here in the 9`s is Joe.
THE_ONE
07-16-2007, 03:47 PM
10.25 at 134 on his old setup and he's making more power now.He also hits the brakes on his runs(before the end of the 1/4) if anybody notices.He's told me he doesnt wanna wear a firesuit or put a cage in the car so Bmp will be happy.:lol:Very true, except he does have a cage, but he doesn't want to add on to it.
2 ROWDY
07-16-2007, 04:31 PM
the statment that set it off was about there being no DSM in tampa that can beat this chi-town DSM. only reason i raised the question is because i didnt know if 2rowdy actually knows what all the DSM's on this board run, to make a statement like that. i know it will be a street race, but what are their track times? isnt jerry's DSM in the 9's in the 1/4?
Yea it just pissed me off when someone said that my friend in the DSM is a bad driver... when he is a very experianced driver and a professional AEM EMS tuner, and the other DSM is nothing to play around with! I got defensive and started talking shit...
(( I don't want to piss off the DSM guys, but I figured by stirring the pot a little bit and saying "he will fuck anyone up" The big DSM dawgs on here would come out and lock in some races, that way when he does come down he is garanteed to get some good races off! That is all...))
I know there are some very very fast DSMs on this board as well as very fast DSM powered cars.
When he does come down we will have to group up all the fast street DSMs and EVOs in Tampa and have a little street shootout... I think that would be awesome!!!
THE_ONE
07-16-2007, 04:40 PM
:thumbup:
DC Dave
07-16-2007, 05:03 PM
most deff... been awhile since ive seen some dsm's tar up the street... besides the evo's
GsT Racer
07-16-2007, 05:18 PM
When he does come down we will have to group up all the fast street DSMs and EVOs in Tampa and have a little street shootout... I think that would be awesome!!!
i guess that means I cant come
oh and i never actually meant that he is a bad driver, its just that with $20k in mods, and that mustang pulled away from him like that, you would think something is up. that just how it looked to me. I dont want to call anybody a "bad driver" because i know that I'm no professional myself, so i really have no right to talk about other people's skills. it just looked funny to me, thats all.
2 ROWDY
07-16-2007, 11:01 PM
i guess that means I cant come
oh and i never actually meant that he is a bad driver, its just that with $20k in mods, and that mustang pulled away from him like that, you would think something is up. that just how it looked to me. I dont want to call anybody a "bad driver" because i know that I'm no professional myself, so i really have no right to talk about other people's skills. it just looked funny to me, thats all.
It's cool man, and it wasn't $20k into the motor by any means, if you look at his extensive mod list on the link I put up you will see all the little things he has that really adds up! It's 2k for a twin disc, 2k for a built tranny, 1k for suspension, drive shaft, axels, differential, ect... all that adds up!
GsT Racer
07-17-2007, 12:16 PM
It's cool man, and it wasn't $20k into the motor by any means, if you look at his extensive mod list on the link I put up you will see all the little things he has that really adds up! It's 2k for a twin disc, 2k for a built tranny, 1k for suspension, drive shaft, axels, differential, ect... all that adds up!
his mod list never said anything about a built trans. and if it does, a few posts back you said he was taking it easy on the "stock trans"
myltwon
07-17-2007, 12:38 PM
most deff... been awhile since ive seen some dsm's tar up the street... besides the evo's
I seen a DSM tear the streets up once, his crank fell out and dragged a couple hundred feet
DC Dave
07-17-2007, 03:11 PM
his mod list never said anything about a built trans. and if it does, a few posts back you said he was taking it easy on the "stock trans"
i think its on my a built trans now, cuz hes on a different set-up i believe
Flaco_GST
07-17-2007, 05:43 PM
Yea it just pissed me off when someone said that my friend in the DSM is a bad driver... when he is a very experianced driver and a professional AEM EMS tuner, and the other DSM is nothing to play around with! I got defensive and started talking shit...
(( I don't want to piss off the DSM guys, but I figured by stirring the pot a little bit and saying "he will fuck anyone up" The big DSM dawgs on here would come out and lock in some races, that way when he does come down he is garanteed to get some good races off! That is all...))
I know there are some very very fast DSMs on this board as well as very fast DSM powered cars.
When he does come down we will have to group up all the fast street DSMs and EVOs in Tampa and have a little street shootout... I think that would be awesome!!!
Hell ya I'll be there. Wait... you said fast dsm, nevermind. :D
Shadytrixta1
07-17-2007, 09:32 PM
the statment that set it off was about there being no DSM in tampa that can beat this chi-town DSM. only reason i raised the question is because i didnt know if 2rowdy actually knows what all the DSM's on this board run, to make a statement like that. i know it will be a street race, but what are their track times? isnt jerry's DSM in the 9's in the 1/4?
This is true...
Shadytrixta1
07-17-2007, 09:38 PM
When he does come down we will have to group up all the fast street DSMs and EVOs in Tampa and have a little street shootout... I think that would be awesome!!!
Ahahaha just to stir the pot a little more...looks like Steve and I will be the only ones making it home from this without the aid of a tow truck...ahahahaa damn DSM's
j/k guys no need for a gang rape!
DC Dave
07-18-2007, 12:01 AM
Ahahaha just to stir the pot a little more...looks like Steve and I will be the only ones making it home from this without the aid of a tow truck...ahahahaa damn DSM's
j/k guys no need for a gang rape!
bitch ill kill you, you guy emo SR lover!!!!!
:D
2 ROWDY
07-18-2007, 01:04 AM
his mod list never said anything about a built trans. and if it does, a few posts back you said he was taking it easy on the "stock trans"
I know the tranny is built now, not sure if it was then... either way it was a friendly race so there was no real need to power shift the fuck out of it, especially since its a dsm...
2 ROWDY
07-18-2007, 01:07 AM
Well I'm going back to Chicago on the 27th, if he doesn't blow it up when I'm in town I will try to get him to bring it down before summer is over... lol Either way I'll bring back some good footage of his car!
GsT Racer
07-18-2007, 12:20 PM
I know the tranny is built now, not sure if it was then... either way it was a friendly race so there was no real need to power shift the fuck out of it, especially since its a dsm...
damn my trans and the damn shift fork! powershift in my car FTL
Shadytrixta1
07-18-2007, 01:57 PM
bitch ill kill you, you guy emo SR lover!!!!!
:D
ahahaha this coming from the DSM driver that blew up my sr!
DC Dave
07-18-2007, 03:02 PM
ahahaha this coming from the DSM driver that blew up my sr!
its just cuz i wanted me to be emo and cut myself to run good but instead it tried to kill me in the middle of 60 and 301 and just died out with traffic coming lol
2 ROWDY
07-19-2007, 01:30 PM
ahahaha this coming from the DSM driver that blew up my sr!
+1031248123948912384238948912 :lol:
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