SRT-4 vs 99 Roush Mustang

[Figs]

I'm getting off a bridge and I see a set of headlights gaining on me slowly. I was doing 75mph then went up to 80mph, at which point the car that was slowly gaining on me was a 99 Mustang Roush and did a flyby on the far right lane and cut back into the middle lane. I made sure the road was clear and I said what the hell this is a race I've been looking for and went after him. I pull next to him back firing, blowing off seeing if he would take the bait. His buddy in the passenger seat kept looking at me smiling and turning talking to his buddy. Finally after driving a few miles next to eachother they took the bait. I was in 4th gear with the rpms a little over 3k. Passenger started the count down with the mustang a fender ahead, I slowly crept up before "3". At 3, we both hit it. Immediately instant spool put about 2 cars by the time I look back I'm 10 cars ahead and the guy flashed his high beams so I slowed down. They got next to me and the passenger gave me a thumbs up.

If your on here. Thanks for the run!

[ozzy1]

neon FTW? :bigthumb:

[zaksblaklabel]

sweet kill

[chillllll]

it was a V6 :lol: Nice kill

[Figs]

it was a V6 :lol: Nice kill

Thanks!

I'm just a 4-cylinder grocery getter econo box ;)

[zaksblaklabel]

Thanks!

I'm just a 4-cylinder grocery getter econo box ;)

:lol: i just gone done grocery shopping too. it is very nice grocery getter. dont ever ever ever underestimate the trunk space on our cars.

[Figs]

The trunk is deep, but not my pockets lol.

[GsT Racer]

it was a V6 :lol: Nice kill
+1

bs flag at pulling on a real roush in 4th gear

[Figs]

I don't know the plate clearly said 99 Roush on it plus all the Roush markings. I don't think the guy would go through all the trouble in making it look like one. It was really clean. Wife was in the car so she can also vouch. What everyone doubts a Neon on here... this place is beginning to turn worst everytime I log on.

At a little over 3k I hit full boost BTW. SRT-4's are torque monsters, being having more torque then hp.

[Figs]

99 Mustang Specs

1999 Ford Mustang SVT Cobra
0-60 mph: 5.4 sec
Quarter Mile: 13.9 sec

1999 Ford Mustang V6 Convertible
0-60 mph: 8.6 sec
Quarter Mile: 16.5 sec

1999 Ford Mustang GT
0-60 mph: 5.5 sec
Quarter Mile: 14.1 sec

3.8L EFI V-6 190hp
4.6L SOHC EFI V-8 260hp
4.6L DOHC EFI V-8 320hp (SVT Cobra)

[zaksblaklabel]

hey, even the new roushs are only 300 hp, unless you go stg 3. i myself have pulled on new roushes and old roushes. i have a few more mods than whitefwdsm, but dont waive the bs flag at this one. especially if it was an older roush.

[pimpn132]

what mods are done do the srt

[zaksblaklabel]

99 Mustang Specs

1999 Ford Mustang SVT Cobra
0-60 mph: 5.4 sec
Quarter Mile: 13.9 sec

1999 Ford Mustang V6 Convertible
0-60 mph: 8.6 sec
Quarter Mile: 16.5 sec

1999 Ford Mustang GT
0-60 mph: 5.5 sec
Quarter Mile: 14.1 sec

3.8L EFI V-6 190hp
4.6L SOHC EFI V-8 260hp
4.6L DOHC EFI V-8 320hp (SVT Cobra)
and the 99 cobra's are slooooooooooow!

[Figs]

1999-2004 Roush Mustangs
1999 saw Ford release the new design for the Mustang. With this release Roush also pushed out a new Roush Mustang based on the 1999 Mustang GT. 1999 saw three Roush Mustang Stages.

The Roush Sport Mustang was the lowest stage and was available on the V6 and GT Mustang. The Roush Sport consisted of the following additions:

Side Skirts
Front Fascia
Rear Valences
High-Performance Exhaust System
Hand Crafted Stainless Steel Tips
Side Exit Exhaust Tips
Tool Box
Embroidered Floor Mats
Window Banners (Front & Rear)
Roush Emblems
The Roush Sport also included the option of:

Sport Leather Seating System
CNC Billet Roush Pedals
Convertible Styling Bar
17″ Argent Wheels & Tires
18″ Argent Wheels & Tires
18″ Chrome Wheels & Tires
Laser Red Paint Upgrade
Rear Wing
Roush High Performance Brakes
Sub-Frame Connectors
V6 Lowering Springs
Cold Air Induction (GT only)
Stage 1, while mostly an appearance package, offers some of the optional items of the Sport package as standard features to aide in handling. The Stage 1 options are:

Window Banners (Front & Rear)
Front Fascia
Rear Valences
Side Skirts
Rear Wing
Roush Emblems
High-Performance Exhaust System
Lowering Springs (V6 Only)
17X8″ Argent Wheels & Tires
Embroidered Floor Mats
Custom Trunk Tool Box
Stage 1 also includes these optional parts:

Sport Leather Seating System
White Face Gauges
CNC Billet Roush Pedals
Convertible Styling Bar
18″ Argent Wheels & Tires upgrade
18″ Chrome Wheels & Tires
GT Suspension Upgrade
Short Throw Shifter
Locking Lug Nuts
Laser Red Paint Upgrade
Roush High Performance Brakes
Sub-Frame Connectors
Cold Air Induction (GT only)
Stage 2 was the most popular of the packages during the New Edge era of the Mustang, and was only available on GT models. The key point of the Stage 2 package was appearance and performance handling, but there were some minor engine performance items added to give the Stage 2 Roush Mustang a little more kick. The standard items of the New Edge Stage 2 package were:

Window Banners (Front & Rear)
Front Fascia
Rear Valences
Side Skirts
Rear Wing
Roush Emblems
Cold Air Induction
Roush Suspension System
Front & Rear Roush Adjustable Bilstein Shocks
Front & Rear Springs
Rear Lower Control Arms
Front & Rear Sway Bars
Pinion Snubber
High-Performance Exhaust System
18X9″ Argent Wheels & High Performance Tire
Embroidered Floor Mats
Custom Trunk Tool Box
The following were optional in the Stage 2 package:

Sport Leather Seating System
CNC Billet Roush Pedals
White Face Gauges
Convertible Styling Bar
18″ Chrome Wheels & Tires Upgrade
Laser Red Paint Upgrade
Roush High Performance Brakes
Short Throw Shifter
Locking Lug Nuts
Sub-Frame Connectors

[Figs]

Atleast most of what is above for a 99 Roush Mustang this guy had exterior wise. So how is it BS on it being a real Roush. I don't see anything listed that would make it modding above the average. Seems like factory options.

[Figs]

what mods are done do the srt

That I won't release. I'll keep it at its a Neon with groceries.

[zaksblaklabel]

+1

bs flag at pulling on a real roush in 4th gear


if you had ever raced a roush, you would know how overrated they are. no offense, but unless you have gone up against the same car, dont claim bs.

[pimpn132]

That I won't release. I'll keep it at its a Neon with groceries.
well if we dont know what is done to the car of course your going to get a whole bunch of b.s. flags you could have a fully built srt or a stock one

[nocomply540]

Screw the neigh sayers WhiteFwdsm. Good kill!

[Figs]

well if we dont know what is done to the car of course your going to get a whole bunch of b.s. flags you could have a fully built srt or a stock one

My car isn't stock and I'll tell you I'm running 20psi. What I won't tell you is my mods because people don't need to know what my mods are. The car isn't stock and it has a stage kit on it with other mods. That's all anyone needs to know on here. Yeah I'm keeping it a secret to the public but a lot of people know what I have and what's coming up in the future.

The bs flag won't bother me. I took the time to research specs on the car I ran and by all means I don't see anything above average performance mods a dealerships offers like what we get for our SRT-4's except Dodge/Mopar focuses less on looks.

[Figs]

Screw the neigh sayers WhiteFwdsm. Good kill!

Thanks!

[pimpn132]

My car isn't stock and I'll tell you I'm running 20psi. What I won't tell you is my mods because people don't need to know what my mods are. The car isn't stock and it has a stage kit on it with other mods. That's all anyone needs to know on here. Yeah I'm keeping it a secret to the public but a lot of people know what I have and what's coming up in the future.

The bs flag won't bother me. I took the time to research specs on the car I ran and by all means I don't see anything above average performance mods a dealerships offers like what we get for our SRT-4's except Dodge/Mopar focuses less on looks.
i dont blame you im just sayin thats why. i believe you to mustangs are way overrated cant stand it

[zaksblaklabel]

well if we dont know what is done to the car of course your going to get a whole bunch of b.s. flags you could have a fully built srt or a stock one


do you think it would take a fully built srt 4 to beat a roush?

[Figs]

i dont blame you im just sayin thats why. i believe you to mustangs are way overrated cant stand it

It's cool man. Thanks for agreeing and seeing where I'm coming from.

[Doctor D]

lol so it seems like the roush is a gt with intake and exhaust? and its from a roll. i would think the fwd would be even stronger there, whats not to beleive?

[Figs]

lol so it seems like the roush is a gt with intake and exhaust? and its from a roll. i would think the fwd would be even stronger there, whats not to beleive?

Thank you Dane. I think people are getting confused with some of the newer Mustangs. That and the fact they don't know anything about SRT-4's so they question and doubt it.

[zaksblaklabel]

coming from someone that has test driven a couple 03 cobras and an 07 stock roush, and from someone who really wanted a cobra, ford is way overrated. specially for the prices. not saying there are no fast fords out there bc i know of serious ball busters, but for the price, give me an agp stg4 srt4 vs a stg 3 roush anyday

[ozzy1]

99 Mustang Specs

1999 Ford Mustang SVT Cobra
0-60 mph: 5.4 sec
Quarter Mile: 13.9 sec

1999 Ford Mustang V6 Convertible
0-60 mph: 8.6 sec
Quarter Mile: 16.5 sec

1999 Ford Mustang GT
0-60 mph: 5.5 sec
Quarter Mile: 14.1 sec

3.8L EFI V-6 190hp
4.6L SOHC EFI V-8 260hp
4.6L DOHC EFI V-8 320hp (SVT Cobra)all still slower than the last time i went to the track, and my car was running like shit.

[pimpn132]

do you think it would take a fully built srt 4 to beat a roush?
not at all i was just sayin could be fully built or stock but that was already setteled

[zaksblaklabel]

yeah, its cool. like you said, they are way over rated. there are some serious nut swingers to those cars around here

[8716v]

dont let them get you down. some people just can't deal with a 4cyl taking down a v8. that is until it happends to them. sounds like a nice run.

[GsT Racer]

as for calling bs, im sorry then. good kill, but dont ever put me in the same category as the others who refuse to believe that an srt-4 is anything more than a neon. i know they are fast, and can be made even faster. so once again, good kill.

[Figs]

as for calling bs, im sorry then. good kill, but dont ever put me in the same category as the others who refuse to believe that an srt-4 is anything more than a neon. i know they are fast, and can be made even faster. so once again, good kill.

Thank you!

[Figs]

dont let them get you down. some people just can't deal with a 4cyl taking down a v8. that is until it happends to them. sounds like a nice run.

Thanks for the positive feedback!

[Red07SS]

My uncle has a plane Roush Mustang... 429hp / 415tq from the factory with 6 speed. I think thats crank though. Its also a 2007.

[Figs]

My uncle has a plane Roush Mustang... 429hp / 415tq from the factory with 6 speed. I think thats crank though. Its also a 2007.

That has to be with a Roush 3+ kit on it and I believe it being that its a 07. But were talking 99 here which seems to be plain asthetics with a couple/few bolt-ons.

[zaksblaklabel]

That has to be with a Roush 3+ kit on it and I believe it being that its a 07. But were talking 99 here which seems to be plain asthetics with a couple/few bolt-ons.

yeah thats either stg3 or some other aftermarket parts. a stock 07 roush comes with 300 hp at the crank. no stg kits

[F4A22]

Good kill.Spray the bitch and dont worry about roush anything again.

[Figs]

Good kill.Spray the bitch and dont worry about roush anything again.

Thanks Oscar! Risky business spraying an SRT-4 well when you get to 100+ shot. I really don't want to go that route. I've been told twice already in one month to do it. Eh, I dunno.

[ozzy1]

Thanks Oscar! Risky business spraying an SRT-4 well when you get to 100+ shot. I really don't want to go that route. I've been told twice already in one month to do it. Eh, I dunno.
by who?

[Figs]

by who?

Well Oscar being one person and hell I don't remember the other person. I just remember being told, "Man you should spray that shit". I think I was told somewhere in this message board.

Nitrous is just a route I trying to stay away from although its easy power but deadly at the same time.

[ozzy1]

Well Oscar being one person and hell I don't remember the other person. I just remember being told, "Man you should spray that shit". I think I was told somewhere in this message board.

Nitrous is just a route I trying to stay away from although its easy power but deadly at the same time.
i know about it being deadly. i told you about the motor in my last car :lol:. was fun while it lasted.

[Figs]

i know about it being deadly. i told you about the motor in my last car

:lol: yeah, you've had first hand experience. I should call you NitroOz

[ozzy1]

:lol: yeah, you've had first hand experience. I should call you NitroOz
:lol: :D

[Sourskittle]

I'm calling BS :lol:

I rode in a 01' N/A Saleen a few months back ( guy at work has 9 fords and wants to sell it ). My partner at work drove it with me riding shot gun. It was like :-o People considered this a perfromance car !!! So tard pay'd $30K for this peice of trash !!! WHAT A TURD !!!

When it comes to newer stangs, its a terminator, mach1 or 01' cobra on spray or NOTHING.

No offense to anyone that bought a Roush or Saleen, but your a total tool !!! The cobras are twice the car, and almost ALWAYS cheaper. No matter how you slice it, the Roush and Saleens are ALWAYS GT based motors. When you buy a Stage3 or what ever with a S/c the motor is basiclly maxed out. When you buy a cobra, you can DOUBLE the power and the motor won't give a crap.

Anything older than a 01' cobra with the updated flash, and its not even as fast as a newer N/A civic Si :lol:

The SRT4 on the other hand, can run low 13s BONE STOCK on slicks ( which translates to them running very well from a roll ), so.... A modded one beating a SLow-en or Doush that's pre-00', its almost a silly race. I'm racing 430whp terminators !!! WITHOUT THE BOTTLE !!!

[Figs]

To be honest with you Bryan... I didn't know what a Roush Mustang was all about. Didn't take the time to learn about Mustangs. So I was kind of expecting a good race but it turned out to be a waste of time for me.

The car looked sick don't get me wrong maybe that's why the impression on me left me like this will be a good race. But it was more looks then go.

[F4A22]

Thanks Oscar! Risky business spraying an SRT-4 well when you get to 100+ shot. I really don't want to go that route. I've been told twice already in one month to do it. Eh, I dunno.

Ever hear of stock05skittle on here?Car had 300 miles and was already ingesting the giggle gas.The only mods were as follows: ported stock intake,short ram intake,3 inch dp,s-afc,map clamp,boost controller,mounts, and stock turbo.His car finally started having problems(if you consider a slipping stock clutch a problem) on the 150 wet shot.He trapped over 120 mph@ bmp on the 100 shot and beat many low 12 second cars on the street.On the 150 shot 600hp cars were giving him good runs.450lbs of torque is fun.:-o

[zaksblaklabel]

The SRT4 on the other hand, can run low 13s BONE STOCK on slicks ( which translates to them running very well from a roll ), so.... A modded one beating a SLow-en or Doush that's pre-00', its almost a silly race. I'm racing 430whp terminators !!! WITHOUT THE BOTTLE !!![/quote]

nice, cant wait till i'm at that level. handfull more months, then it will be head hunting time

[Figs]

Ever hear of stock05skittle on here?Car had 300 miles and was already ingesting the giggle gas.The only mods were as follows: ported stock intake,short ram intake,3 inch dp,s-afc,map clamp,boost controller,mounts, and stock turbo.His car finally started having problems(if you consider a slipping stock clutch a problem) on the 150 wet shot.He trapped over 120 mph@ bmp on the 100 shot and beat many low 12 second cars on the street.On the 150 shot 600hp cars were giving him good runs.450lbs of torque is fun.:-o

Nope never heard of him but definately sounds like it was nasty fast. Does he still have the car? Gotta love the torque... its scary but fun. Shoot I don't know, dang it don't convince me to do it. I don't race this car enough to be running around with a bottle anyways. I baby it 90% of the time. Freaking DSM's have cursed my mind.

[Figs]

nice, cant wait till i'm at that level. handfull more months, then it will be head hunting time

Hey Tim, I'm back to not knowing what setup I want to go with. Geez I need to make up my mind. SourSkittle definately has me thinking... as far as drivability and still pulling numbers like that.

[omgwtfbbq!]

Good kill!

I hate to go off topic, but Ive always wondered why people keep their engine set ups so secretive. I can imagine if youre out for an SCCA event on a track and outlapping the hell out of everyone, but street cars? Especially the gangsta gs down at Gandy, they'd die before telling you they could only afford and intake and fart can for their B20 swapped coupe, after wasting all their money buying a B20 for a coupe. Why is this?

[zaksblaklabel]

Hey Tim, I'm back to not knowing what setup I want to go with. Geez I need to make up my mind. SourSkittle definately has me thinking... as far as drivability and still pulling numbers like that.


i"m staying to what i told you about before. its proven over and over again. your not thinkin spray, are you?

[Skee]

had to be the v6 there are people that put stage 3 body kits and stuff on them there is one around here that has the stage 3 kit with the side exhaust
and he still has his single v6 rear exhaust lol
was this one black that you raced?

[zaksblaklabel]

Good kill!

I hate to go off topic, but Ive always wondered why people keep their engine set ups so secretive. I can imagine if youre out for an SCCA event on a track and outlapping the hell out of everyone, but street cars? Especially the gangsta gs down at Gandy, they'd die before telling you they could only afford and intake and fart can for their B20 swapped coupe, after wasting all their money buying a B20 for a coupe. Why is this?

me personally, its a theft thing. i would love to brag about a big turbo, fully built engine, but that can attract the wrong kind of attention. i dont mind telling people in my crew, but thats it.

and even if i had all that work done, i wouldnt brag bout it anyway, nor sit there with my hood popped up. thats just the way i am

[Figs]

Good kill!

I hate to go off topic, but Ive always wondered why people keep their engine set ups so secretive. I can imagine if youre out for an SCCA event on a track and outlapping the hell out of everyone, but street cars? Especially the gangsta gs down at Gandy, they'd die before telling you they could only afford and intake and fart can for their B20 swapped coupe, after wasting all their money buying a B20 for a coupe. Why is this?

Thanks!

I keep mine secretive because of the fact there's people that steal left and right. You telling people your setup left and right eventually something will happen towards that effect. Another reason I don't share it with too many people is the fact that it will draw to much attention to myself which I don't want. I rather show up somewhere and hang out without people coming up to me trying to race me left and right. So I feel that no one needs to know besides the one's I really feel should know. You run through a whole mods list then everyone knows what you have and you become "oh yeah that guy has this and that".

[Figs]

had to be the v6 there are people that put stage 3 body kits and stuff on them there is one around here that has the stage 3 kit with the side exhaust
and he still has his single v6 rear exhaust lol
was this one black that you raced?

No it wasn't black it was that dark red/burgundy color. The exhaust came out the side. No exhaust in the rear.

BTW, if you look at the Specs I posted in Page 1. Even if its a v6 or v8 I would of beat it regardless. Stage 1 and Stage 2 roush for that year seems to focus mostly on looks. Stage 3 on the other hand for that year I didn't find any information on but seems like Stage 3 focus's more on perfomance which I understand... you own one.

[omgwtfbbq!]

^^^ True. I can understand that.

[Skee]

mine ha 360whp 375 wtq bone stock nothing added to it yet does 12.9-13.0 pending if i hook up right there one guy all stock with slicks did 12.6

[zaksblaklabel]

well, from what the sales guy told me at brandon ford when o went shopping for an 03 cobra, he said even now the stg kits dont give any serious power upgrade until stg3 when you get the supercharger. i think if i remember correct, the stg 2 has a cai, and i think a sts. thats the only performance i remember from a stg 2 on the 07's

[omgwtfbbq!]

Fuckin-A I might have to buy me a skittle.

[Figs]

mine ha 360whp 375 wtq bone stock nothing added to it yet does 12.9-13.0 pending if i hook up right there one guy all stock with slicks did 12.6

That's really good numbers. I'm not near that yet. If I was I'd ask you for a friendly run sometime. But at this time you would be wasting your gas and time running me.

[Figs]

Wait... wait... wait... come to think of it, I need to run a Stage 3 just to see where I am at. Your at that power level but weight and driving skills play a role in this as well.

[Skee]

im up for a friendly run no biggy

[Figs]

Cool, I'll pm you we can discuss this via PM.

[zaksblaklabel]

should be a good one Jesus, like you said to see where your at

[Doctor D]

come to bmp thursday!!!! i wanna see/get some good runs in

[Figs]

I work during the week. So going out anywhere during the evening of Sun-Thurs I will be feeling it the next day. Operating forklifts half asleep sucks...

I haven't ran the car at the track. I don't have traction in 1st, 2nd and beginning of 3rd.

[Figs]

should be a good one Jesus, like you said to see where your at

Yeah I think so. Win or lose I think it will be a good one. I have yet to have any good run.

[Skee]

win or lose it will be good im not gunna say im gunna win i been in a srt 4 they do put down should be fun

[zaksblaklabel]

i think it will be a real good matchup

[Sourskittle]

Ever hear of stock05skittle on here?Car had 300 miles and was already ingesting the giggle gas.The only mods were as follows: ported stock intake,short ram intake,3 inch dp,s-afc,map clamp,boost controller,mounts, and stock turbo.His car finally started having problems(if you consider a slipping stock clutch a problem) on the 150 wet shot.He trapped over 120 mph@ bmp on the 100 shot and beat many low 12 second cars on the street.On the 150 shot 600hp cars were giving him good runs.450lbs of torque is fun.:-o

No one ever meantioned the car was BRAND new, and COMPLETELY GUTTED. It was fast while the clutch lasted. Really, as long as you get it tuned once, and always run race gas, you'll never have an issue with NOS. Problem I ran into was that my set-up changes like the FL weather, and it consistantly needs re-tuned.

Then again.... If I was a lot more "secret squirrel" about my set-up, I could have been telling everyone " its bone stock with a 90shot ".