View Full Version : PBOC Sebring this weekend.
treekiller
05-14-2007, 04:03 PM
Who is going? I would like to get my signoff on saturday to be an instructor weekend, If anyone with a Front wheel drive wants to request me on sunday short of them denying my signoff. I'll be availble on sunday.
treekiller
05-16-2007, 03:35 PM
Last Call, Even if somone wants to Crew There is space availble, I allready have a room booked, so there is space.
Now if you want to rent the Sentra we can work somthing out.
bam2002
05-16-2007, 04:11 PM
we were there last week with PCA.. planning on doing the PBOC in july..
I have the BMW CCA auto X this weekend.. So i need to be there..
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Presidential_Detail
05-22-2007, 10:55 AM
Man I wish I could have went, I will definately have to request you for an instuctor once i finally get out to Sebring. Ive only raced Homestead so far. What club do you instruct for? I normally go with NASA.
Chuck 98 RT/10
05-22-2007, 11:33 AM
SAFE Motorsports has Sebring on Saturday. Does PBOC have it on Sunday?
treekiller
05-22-2007, 12:47 PM
PBOC Does have saturday events too.. This weekend is NASA and SAFE I am sorry to say I did not get my PBOC instructor signoff this weekend. not for lack of trying, but I was scheduled to have it done sunday. so saturday night I set up my tent and went to sleep only to wake up an hour or so later coughing madly it felt like somthing was jammed in my throat. I went to the bathroom to cough it out and saw blood, so I drove right to the hospital. (3 hours later I was back) Thank goodness it was not life threating but I was less then optimal Sunday. I tried to go out on track in the first session. on a green track I spun on my 3rd lap (In turn 3 of all places) and decided to call it a day..
I do offer Crew, setup and instruction services on a per event basis. (please contact me at least a month in advance) tell me what event you want and I'll contact and set up with the club as your personal instructor. they like it because they get a student fee and don't have to find an instructor, plus I'll help with vehicle setup and tuning. Pyrometer Logging, lap timing. allignment etc. all you have to pay for is my $30 instructor fee. and perhaps a lunch. I'll do personal autocross instruction too but you'll get more out of a track day.
big Jim
05-22-2007, 03:29 PM
i wanna sign up, is it still open and if so any links?
treekiller
05-22-2007, 05:01 PM
Sorry Jim, it was last weekend, but NASA is still open for this weekend.
Sebring International Raceway - National Auto Sport Association - We drive harder (http://www.drivenasafl.com/content/view/30/69/)
big Jim
05-22-2007, 07:21 PM
Thanks treekiller, but its full! AH i just wanna finaly get in an auto-x!
Loren
05-22-2007, 10:44 PM
These aren't autocrosses, they are track events. Big difference.
Autocross is generally considered "safe", minimal risk to you and your car.
Track events still strive to be safe, but there is a very real risk involved. You could go off-track and hit a wall, stay on track and hit another car, go off into the dirt and roll over... and get hurt or killed in the process of any of that. It takes a much greater commitment to go run on the track.
pdisme
05-23-2007, 08:51 AM
Damn, NASA doesn't give you much track time, barely more than 1.5 hours for $250?
Loren
05-23-2007, 09:18 AM
Yeah, not the best bargain around. They run a good event from what I hear, though. (I've not run with NASA FL, but I have run with NASA SE) In spite of the time available with some of the other clubs, I rarely run much more than 2 hours in a day, anyway. From that perspective, it's not TOO bad.
treekiller
05-23-2007, 09:42 AM
The main Diffrence I see ins NASA is Nationwide and has REAL classes to Compete in, Sure if I wanted to invest 10,000 in the sentra I could race with PBOC but why. Nasa SE is a much better bargian, they don't run in florida but have an awesome Worker for free run program for cheap people like me. they have a REAL race series and sanction the best time trial/time attack program out there. This is where the SCCA looses so many people it's SUCH a large step from autocross to Wheel to wheel and Solo-1 while fun ESP. hillclimb events. is still a big step to get the saftey gear etc. If there was a hillclimb program around here I'd have a solo-1 bar in the car allready but there is no need with nasa. plus most tracks in florida arent Rollover prone.
I Like the guys at Chin and safe but where can you go. solo? then what? instructor. it's the competition that feeds my passion, weather it's trying to lap a peticular course faster then Loren, or actually competing in a real time trial.
Chuck 98 RT/10
05-23-2007, 10:29 AM
NASA, SCCA, SAFE, Chin, all different animals for different objectives.
Best track time bargin by far is SAFE - limited entries and no run groups!
Chin for instruction.
SCCA for high profile.
NASA bridges the gap between Chin and SCCA and is coming on strong.
Then there are the specific car clubs that offer great track opportunities.
That's the way I see it anyway. It is a great time to be a car nut. These opportunities weren't near as prevalent 25 years ago.
pdisme
05-23-2007, 10:35 AM
Of the groups I've run with so far, I've liked PBOC the best; they typically have discounted pricing for a full weekend vs Chin at $250+/day, they have more run groups with smaller sessions so you're not throwing time away that you can't use anyway due to fatigue and their instructors seemed great the two days I ran with them.
What's everyone doing from mid-June to mid-July? There doesn't seem to be anyone with any events happening; I'm looking for some Florida track time somewhere in there.
Chuck 98 RT/10
05-23-2007, 10:37 AM
What's everyone doing from mid-June to mid-July? There doesn't seem to be anyone with any events happening; I'm looking for some Florida track time somewhere in there.
Got some Radicals going on at Moroso July and Aug.
http://www.tamparacing.com/forums/auto-x-road-racing/394881-moroso-miata-series.html
July 21 Sebring with SAFE.
pdisme
05-23-2007, 10:44 AM
Yeah, I'm going to be signing up for the SAFE event, I might try to do the NASA Florida event on June 23/24 if I can work that out, I was contemplating VIR with Chin on July 4th but that's a serious drive with the trailer, probably $400 in gas. :)
bam2002
05-25-2007, 08:52 AM
PBOC June 16-17
PCA june 30
PBOC july 7-8
SAFE july 21
PCA july 28 -29
I will probably stick with the PCA events. SO I can advance, get signed off.
pdisme
05-29-2007, 02:30 PM
Cool, I think I'll try to do PBOC and SAFE that month.
Chuck 98 RT/10
05-29-2007, 03:35 PM
Yeah, I'm going to be signing up for the SAFE event, I might try to do the NASA Florida event on June 23/24 if I can work that out, I was contemplating VIR with Chin on July 4th but that's a serious drive with the trailer, probably $400 in gas. :)
You own a Radical, a Lambo and a Benz. We're aren't going to cry for you over any of your gas issues. :)
pdisme
05-29-2007, 03:36 PM
Yes, but they all get towed by a big Chevy. :)
pdisme
05-29-2007, 03:37 PM
Took some great vids of the Radical at Barber this weekend:
http://whoi.be/vroom/d/4228-2/Barber-200705.wmv
burgy240
05-31-2007, 07:59 AM
Sweet vid. I would love to ride in that just once! Chuck, think we could half on one??? :lol: I know Pon would be in too.
D-Roll
05-31-2007, 09:42 AM
Great vid! I'd luv to run in Sebring
pdisme
05-31-2007, 10:16 AM
Friend of mine has his 1300 for sale:
2003 Radical SR3 SuperSport 1300 - Lamborghini Forum & Photo Gallery - Talk Lambo! (http://www.talklambo.com/showthread.php?t=737)
He'll have it at Sebring on June 9/10, he just bought a 1500 that he'll be driving that weekend instead.
burgy240
05-31-2007, 12:13 PM
Dam, if only! thats about 2 years away for me.
pdisme
05-31-2007, 05:03 PM
If you keep an eye out, you can sometimes find really good deals on Radical's. His runs really strong and the suspension is set up well, it's fast, so it's a good deal. If you buy new you'll end up spending an extra $40k. I got my 1500 from PVM Racing in Atlanta with only three track days on it and a zero hour engine since the previous one had blown :) Sometimes they have them pop up on their website under cars for sale. Very rarely you'll even see them on ebay but those are the ones you usually have to watch out for. I'd only buy one from someone who will either drive you in it for a few hot laps, or less often, let you drive it.
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