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Old Apr 26, 2007 | 12:45 PM
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Default Alternative fuels

Soo what you guys know about them?

e85 I think is the one that is mostly like going to be a good alternative




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after reading this I am more and more interested in it
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Old Apr 26, 2007 | 02:40 PM
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I know that soon enough the major preferred fuel source will be good ol H2O-I know it cause ive seen it
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Old Apr 26, 2007 | 02:53 PM
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the problem with hydrogen is that it isn't a stored energy source like gasoline is. You need something to get hydrogen to make energy, thats why you never see a true hydrogen powered engine. its usually hydro-electric. Then, you've got the problem of hydrogen "eating" whatever the engine is made out of. So the engine life is dramatically shortier.
I'm starting to look into ethenol. It seems to be a pretty good idea....
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Old Apr 26, 2007 | 03:03 PM
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Nope, not just hydrogen-Good old water-

Ive seen an almost stock harley motor be converted to run on straight water-With an efficiency that scares the oil companies. There are reasons some of these things cant be brought straight to market.

Ill give you some hints though-Think water, bronze, hydrogen peroxide, electrolysis, semipermeable electromagnetic membranes...

If you can put those parts together in the right enviroment, AMAZING things can happen
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Old Apr 26, 2007 | 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by dragula
Ill give you some hints though-Think water, bronze, hydrogen peroxide, electrolysis, semipermeable electromagnetic membranes...

If you can put those parts together in the right enviroment, AMAZING things can happen
so the power actually comes from the eletrolysis and electromagnetic membranes. so you still need a power source.

Its going to be nice when we can start production of something like that.
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Old Apr 26, 2007 | 10:20 PM
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the koenigsegg ccx got a 145 hp boost when they changed it to accept e85...

870 -> 1015
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e85 is already in play in california.
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Originally Posted by norachelhere
so the power actually comes from the eletrolysis and electromagnetic membranes. so you still need a power source.

Its going to be nice when we can start production of something like that.
I'm guessing that it's cracking the hydrogen from the water on the fly somehow and from there it's a standard hydrogen internal combustion engine. I thought it took too much energy to do that; more than you'd get from the combustion. If somebody has found a way to change that balance then good for them.
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Also, E85 is awesome. People on the national DSM boards are making the same power on E85 that other people have made on 110 leaded. A guy with a 16g just put down 402 whp on E85 spiking over 30 psi and falling to 25 at redline. That's one of the highest 16g dyno numbers. I can't wait for the stuff to be made locally so I can convert my car to run on it. Race gas tune all the time- an extra 40-50 hp for free.
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I am all for any energy source that will compete against oil.

We've seen what the Middle East does with their profits.

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