2JZ powered 240

[memole]

As some of you guys already know Im putting a 2JZ in my 240. out with the SR and in with a 2JZ. it has been about 1 1/2 months gathering all the parts that I have needed. The thing about this swap is that its a
2JZ NA-T. here are some progress of the motor and some pics of my engine bay finally painted instead of flat black. since motor was coming out might as well paint it up!!!!! We are expecting the finally pieces within the next two weeks to get this thing fired up. My goal is in the range of 400 to 450 after all is said and done. will probably have to upgrade the fuel system to achieve this but for now want to get it up and running then start modding that. take a look at the pics and let me know what you think.
Just me
Chris

quick pic of car again

http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q298/zayfman/bodyshot1.jpg

old engine bay
http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q298/zayfman/engine1.jpg

new engine bay
http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q298/zayfman/DSC09397.jpg

http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q298/zayfman/DSC09409.jpg


Motor:
http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q298/zayfman/DSC09318.jpg

http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q298/zayfman/DSC09319.jpg

http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q298/zayfman/DSC09328.jpg

http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q298/zayfman/DSC09329.jpg

http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q298/zayfman/DSC09340.jpg

http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q298/zayfman/DSC09347.jpg

http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q298/zayfman/DSC09395.jpg

http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q298/zayfman/DSC09403.jpg

http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q298/zayfman/DSC09404.jpg

http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q298/zayfman/DSC09405.jpg

http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q298/zayfman/DSC09406.jpg

http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q298/zayfman/DSC09408.jpg

http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q298/zayfman/DSC09396.jpg

http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q298/zayfman/DSC09407.jpg

Turbo:waiting for tangential housing...to fit up...

http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q298/zayfman/normal_christurbo20001.jpg

[Kirk]

This is going to be one hell of a project! I can't wait until we crank this puppy up :D I am such a bad influence for the shop......... :lol: :lol:

[J-Dizzle]

sick! but i hate all these different make motor swaps. whats wrong with the SR?>

[Kirk]

sick! but i hate all these different make motor swaps. whats wrong with the SR?>

too slow!!!!!!!! 2JZ FTMFW

[J-Dizzle]

well that was obvious:lol:

[memole]

the SR can be built fast...Im not "knocking" it, mine was just ready for a change...lol
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Chris

[gotricebih]

thats gonna be nice as hell

[dan]

should look good. i dont know alot about 2j interchangability, but i know the stock supra TTs do 400-450 on their stock injectors. i bet u can find some stock TT injectors lying around. if it fits, i would throw on a stock TT intake manifold and injectors/rail. NA-T piping FTL! lol.


the engine bay looks great too, i assume you had already put stuff back together for those pics.

[memole]

its coming along great. Have had a lot of help from Kirk on this one....
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Chris

[memole]

yeah I put everything back together for the pics on engine bay. the heads are totally different from NA and TT. the intake and exhuast manifolds dont interchange...it sucks but they make a lot of stuff for NA-T
just a little pricey!!!!!
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Chris

[Kirk]

should look good. i dont know alot about 2j interchangability, but i know the stock supra TTs do 400-450 on their stock injectors. i bet u can find some stock TT injectors lying around. if it fits, i would throw on a stock TT intake manifold and injectors/rail. NA-T piping FTL! lol.


the engine bay looks great too, i assume you had already put stuff back together for those pics.

NA and TT motors are the same internally. My NA-T was down right nasty...it was on an untouched bottom end. Stock motors (GE/GTE) are proven to put down 800+rwhp reliably DAILY.

The NA intake manifold is not a restriction in any way, especially for his power goals. Boost logic and PM Performance proved this by dynoing over 700rwhp on stock intake manifold setup + ignition (stock plug wires too!). So in conclusion, although it may be an eye sore to some, it's in no way harming the engine's power capabilities.

[Kirk]

it sucks but they make a lot of stuff for NA-T
just a little pricey!!!!!
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Chris
Got to pay to play with the big dawgs !!!!!
:D

[SpottedMango]

I need to take some pictures for you.

Tomorrow.

[memole]

KIRK: thats what you keep telling me....lol
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Chris

[SpottedMango]

Damn, now I feel left out.

its coming along great. Have had a lot of help from Kirk on this one....
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Chris

[hondasux]

only at DC where the painters have faster cars than the techs

[hondasux]

edit: PAINTER

[memole]

Ian... everybody already knows that without you and the shop I would be driving the Kia (family truckster) all over town...lol..
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Chris

[memole]

only at DC where the painters have faster cars than the techs

not for long...I'm sure of that
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Chris

[pheobo]

Let's also note that the painter has a faster 2jz then the 2jz "expert" at DC!
Chris... this is BALLER!

[SpottedMango]

hehehehe, now I feel better.

Ian... everybody already knows that without you and the shop I would be driving the Kia (family truckster) all over town...lol..
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Chris

[YARO]

Sick project. And the car looks sick. I'll love to have a 2jz swaped 240

[memole]

Just trying to keep up with the big boys...but on a much smaller bugdet ...lol...
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Chris

[Kirk]

Let's also note that the painter has a faster 2jz then the 2jz "expert" at DC!
Chris... this is BALLER!

I am sorry the Toyota "expert" was fired a few days after I was hired :lol: :lol: :lol: BAHAHAHAHHAHA i crack myself up

[adrian_302]

so what did you do with all of those SR parts =O

[Kirk]

so what did you do with all of those SR parts =O

Call me tomorrow and I will see what kind of deal I can get for you on the parts :)

[marksaccord95]

who painted your engine bay, hehehehehehehheheeeeeeeeeeeeee


make sure to get your mounts done in a CAD drawing so someone can start to CNC some DC 2jz mount kits for SR

[VENOM 240s-R]

DAMNNN nm i look like someone is doing that same project my friend is doing! :(

[Ink]

dude im not gonna lie, your 240 is hott anyways, but when i saw the pics i actually said out loud 'No Way!'. now that many not seem weird, but its 1:!5 in the morning and no one to question me on it. 2JZ S13.5 FTMFW

[GreenLightGo]

i love the lexus v/c.. cant wait till its done

[Gibbon]

Very nice! Good luck with the install.

[memole]

thanks everyone....
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Chris

[Neesan]

Its so nice to see a 240 that doesnt have a damn SR. Looks like you are taking your time and doing it right, Id hate to see the bill for all the parts though. Keep up the good work.

[DC Dave]

damn i didnt think chris was really goin to do it... thats gonna be SWEET!!! looks good chris g/l

[adrian_302]

Call me tomorrow and I will see what kind of deal I can get for you on the parts :)

hehe ill call you tomorrow (i didnt see this until now) id like some of that shiney stuff =D

[agentAndy]

looks nice dude.
btw gte and ge rods and pistons are differant.
crank and block are same.
haha
will be awesome dude.

[Got boost??]

dam good project cant wait to see it done good luck

[Kirk]

looks nice dude.
btw gte and ge rods and pistons are differant.
crank and block are same.
haha
will be awesome dude.

GE and GTE rods are identical, pistons on the N/A do not have as deep of a dish in them, hence higher compression.

The only difference on the block is the drilled and tapped bosses for the oil feed/return/oil squirters.

[memole]

Well either way mine is also drilled for the lines....lol
thanks guys
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Chris

[burgy240]

Looks really good man, can't wait to see it and hear it run... Keep up the good work.

PS, What you do with the old turbo from the SR? HAHA I need it!

[memole]

everything sr and related items sold. give Ian a call at the shop...
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Chris

[adrian_302]

everything sr and related items sold. give Ian a call at the shop...
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Chris

shit EVERYTHING? :( i shoulda called sooner.

[memole]

Well small update...
Last night I decided to go ahead and do headgasket and ARP bolts. so armed with an FSM, and a little help from some friends, I jumped into this one. so here are some pics of how I spent 5 hours last night...lol
motor before doing headgasket..everything pretty much bolted on...

http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q298/zayfman/DSC09432.jpg

http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q298/zayfman/DSC09435.jpg

head off

http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q298/zayfman/DSC09436.jpg

http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q298/zayfman/DSC09438.jpg

http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q298/zayfman/DSC09440.jpg

New ARP bolts and 2.0mm headgasket

http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q298/zayfman/DSC09444.jpg

http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q298/zayfman/DSC09447.jpg

head back on

http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q298/zayfman/DSC09450.jpg

Changed up from Greddy timing belt to Power enterprise...

http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q298/zayfman/DSC09451.jpg

http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q298/zayfman/DSC09453.jpg


Well tonight will probably be another long night... lol
Just me
Chris

[R3RUN]

I plan on doing this if my car ever sells or I make a good bit of cash this summer. I didn't read the whole thread but if you are looking for mounts for the swap, Mainstream Performance in Atlanta makes them. Looking good so far though.

[memole]

the mounts will be here thrusday.. we didnt get them mainstream performance..we got them from there source...lol
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Chris

[MainStream]

the mounts will be here thrusday.. we didnt get them mainstream performance..we got them from there source...lol
Just me
Chris
Nice car, youll love it. Im sure your confused, we havent sold anyone in florida a set of mounts, i think you have Tech2s mounts

[R3RUN]

Mainstream is pretty much the shit when it come to this swap. Anyway good luck with the build, I look forward to seeing it completed. One question though, any particular reason why you chose to go NA-T?

[MainStream]

Mainstream is pretty much the shit when it come to this swap. Anyway good luck with the build, I look forward to seeing it completed. One question though, any particular reason why you chose to go NA-T?

you would be surprised how cheap the NA motors are, ive bought for under $150 for a complete running motor.

buy $200-400 GTE rods an pistons $100 bearings, Headgasket an headstuds ($200) and as long as you have a engine harness an AEM, good to go.

you basically have a 2JZ for under $1000 (minus trans an etc)

[Jordan T]

or get a complate 1J with turbos for $1100. but 1J's are for queers.

[pheobo]

Mainstream, looks good.

Looks like an RPS exhaust manifold.

Also, finished pics? We had to modify our upper water neck to fit a normal intake.

Why go through the fender on the hot IC pipe? Why not use that for cold air intakes and go direct to IC. I would assume it'll lower the volume of the IC pipes by shortening the length of the pipe, hence spooling quicker.

Looks good!

Chris... more pics tomorrow?

[MainStream]

not to jack this guys thread but since he mentioned me first :)

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c21/Vteckidd/th_Picture557.jpg (http://s24.photobucket.com/albums/c21/Vteckidd/?action=view&current=Picture557.flv)

[Kirk]

Mainstream is pretty much the shit when it come to this swap. Anyway good luck with the build, I look forward to seeing it completed. One question though, any particular reason why you chose to go NA-T?

This is my NA-T..
http://www.clubna-t.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/myna-tsetup%20060.jpg

I also own and operate ClubNA-T.com;

The NA motors can make just as much power as the 2JZ-GTE.. because they are technically the SAME motors. The GE has higher compression which could be fixed with a thicker headgasket (2mm recommended) and you have yourself a bullet proof motor that will handle more power than you can shake a stick at.

On my black NA-T the only way you can tell its not a GTE is by looking at the top radiator hose location which is on the driver side as opposed to passenger side.

[MainStream]

This is my NA-T..
http://www.clubna-t.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/myna-tsetup%20060.jpg

I also own and operate ClubNA-T.com;

The NA motors can make just as much power as the 2JZ-GTE.. because they are technically the SAME motors. The GE has higher compression which could be fixed with a thicker headgasket (2mm recommended) and you have yourself a bullet proof motor that will handle more power than you can shake a stick at.

On my black NA-T the only way you can tell its not a GTE is by looking at the top radiator hose location which is on the driver side as opposed to passenger side.

Very nice car, i have an NA-T supra here with a TH350 and 42R with GTE internals.

Now, correct me if im wrong, but ive heard the NA pistons are actually physically weaker, tend to crack ringlands.

I also know that the NA rods are WAY smaller than the GTE rods, ive seen that first hand from the motors i have built.

My roomate has a 450whp IS300, his motor never had any issues, but he blew trannys up.

[pheobo]

Um... Chris... you've had plenty of nights to get some work done...

Updated pics or BAN!!!

[Kirk]

Very nice car, i have an NA-T supra here with a TH350 and 42R with GTE internals.

Now, correct me if im wrong, but ive heard the NA pistons are actually physically weaker, tend to crack ringlands.

I also know that the NA rods are WAY smaller than the GTE rods, ive seen that first hand from the motors i have built.

My roomate has a 450whp IS300, his motor never had any issues, but he blew trannys up.

Well the GE rods you are looking at are VVTI GE bottom ends. the VVTI bottom ends are the only out of the group that are blessed with the crummy rods.

The pistons are psychically made the same way on the GE and GTE.

There are cars out there running 8's and 9's on bone stock GE bottom ends.

Here is a video of Dave H running mid 9's on a $200 spare motor he had laying around, this means STOCK head, STOCK bottom end.. only cracked it open to throw on a head gasket. His last motor lasted him 4 years of abuse @ 34psi + 175 shot direct port nitrous.
YouTube - 9sec automatic Supra (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EzVRxRNFi_8)

[Jordan T]

i <3 2J's.

[memole]

ok..well put the motor in tonight.. just got home... still some tweeking needed but here are some pics for you all...
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Chris

http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q298/zayfman/DSC09454.jpg

http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q298/zayfman/DSC09461.jpg

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http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q298/zayfman/DSC09457.jpg

[just me]

fuck yea!!!!

[back2Nissan]

lookin good!! see you changed your mind on the dump toob routing.

[memole]

went with another idea..this one is pretty hot
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Chris

[kbprice]

What injectors are you going to be using with this? Switching over to low imp. or staying high.
FYI those Magnacore wires are crap. I think my stock $55 set from Toyota works better than those thing did.

[pheobo]

Sweet... Dammit... looks like your car will be running before mine!

Can't wait for a ride!

[memole]

Motor and tranny is fully installed. hoepfully running in two weeks. Just waiting for more parts and fabbing all piping...
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Chris

http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q298/zayfman/DSC09463.jpg

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[ShakinIt]

cool swap; you have a sweet looking car man!

[back2Nissan]

Fits like a glove. looking good!

[memole]

thanks guys....there was quite a bit of work to finally get it in there..all in all Im quite happy with the outcome...
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Chris

[extatic002]

I think i pee'd a little...nope..that is in fact semen..

[Got boost??]

^ haha the car looks good saw it at driven the other day

[memole]

Found out I might need to get another hood. my vented S15 hood is vented downward right where the timing belt sticks out... either cut the hood...or run with no hood..lol
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Chris

[Kirk]

too much motor under the hood :D

[pheobo]

No hoodddd!!!! sweet!

[J-Dizzle]

damn looks good for sure. i retract my previous statement about swapping different makes motors etc

[Got boost??]

no hood lol

[Griffin400]

car looks alright.........lol

[memole]

have a feeling it will be hoodless for a little bit... is that against the law???? lol
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Chris

[Shadytrixta1]

Chris I have driven my car many times with out a hood even to a cop packed gas station with only headlights on the front of my car and no harrassment.

[Failure]

have a feeling it will be hoodless for a little bit... is that against the law???? lol
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Chris

not that i know of i used to drive my truck around with no hood. just not as aerodynamic lol

[memole]

well maybe it will keep the motor cooler....lol
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Chris

[back2Nissan]

Just sell that hood and buy another already. Drivng with your hood off was cool in the 60's. We all know its all about the element of surprise when they get their ass handed to them and then you show them who is daddy when you open the hood. Not to mention the water spots on all of that aluminum and chrome when it rains. lol

[Failure]

and you couldnt drive in the rain.. taking water injection to a whole new level.. people will start racing in the rain with no hoods?!! haha

[Kirk]

He is not going to drive without a hood....... if he does I will personally remove this motor from the car

[marksaccord95]

chris is gettin ready.....

Flash Movie: 3 3ast 3 3urious (3 fast 3 furious) (http://www.newsandentertainment.com/zF3fast3furious.html)

[memole]

^^^^ nice^^^^

And Kirk you going to pick up one of thse S15 cowl induction hoods that I will probably need??? it will be more cost effective than you ripping my motor out!!!...lol
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Chris

[Ronald Mcdonald]

Damn, can you seriously get a motorset for around $200?

NA-T is cool, and would be baller in a 240sx, as you are already showing us.

[memole]

Well small update..
Got the hot pipe fabbed up and still have intake,exhaust and cold side to do. Managed to stuff some FAL fans between the motor and rad...its real close.... Had to modify the brakes lines where they go into the master cyclinder...running all the electrical stuff..guages stuff like that Tomorrow working on fuel lines, ac lines, and anything else we can knock out while we wait for a couple more things that was ordered.... Shooting for next weekend start up... Depends on if the parts EVER get here...lol
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Chris

[back2Nissan]

Can we get some more pics already or what! Jay did an awesome job fabbing the master cylinder lines. It looks so race-carish! :D

[memole]

i will get some pics tomorrow. the brakes lines do look a little race carish...lol..and wait until you see all the heat wrap Im using...then you can tell me what you think it looks like...lol
until tomorrows update.,...
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Chris

[Figs]

Good luck with the swap. There's a yellow s13 with a 2jz swap in the Super Street magazine. Good source of information there even if you know what your doing.

[memole]

I havent seen the magazine, but pretty sure I know who that is..probably Tech 2
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Chris

[Kirk]

It is Tech2

[memole]

Well got quite abit done today..ran the fuel lines..power steering lines..clutch slave with lines..mounted exhuast..started mocking up the downpipe..put new tie rod ends in..drained transmission..and figured out what else i needed (LOL)... here are some update pics..
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Chris

http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q298/zayfman/DSC09568.jpg

http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q298/zayfman/DSC09570.jpg

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[Shadytrixta1]

Its getting there Chris keep up the work!!!

[back2Nissan]

lookin good Chris!

[wills13]

your car is an inspiration

[Got boost??]

looks good

[pheobo]

So Nice... Can't wait to go for a "spin" :-D

[burgy240]

Looks good Chris, let me know if you want the number for the guys in Miami that had the 2jz powered white s14 kouki at HIN. They were cool guys and said they would help anytime with info, and just general trouble shooting. They also said they could get you the cool clear valve cover cheap?? Anyway, it looks great man, keep it up.

I know you know, but make sure you get some barrier for that BMC, it looks really close to that mani..

[pheobo]

[QUOTE=burgy240;4127056]... They also said they could get you the cool clear valve cover cheap?? [QUOTE]

FYI. That valve cover is for the GTE head. It will not fit Chris' GE head.

Cheers,

[DC Dave]

looks great chris

[burgy240]

FYI. That valve cover is for the GTE head. It will not fit Chris' GE head.

Cheers,

AAAAAAAHHH, oh yeah, but they may be able to get one that fits it too :dunno: :lol:

pheobo---I'll get you that info this weekend:D

[memole]

well small update.
today we mocked up the rest of the piping. wired in Map ecu2 and injectors. installed harness and plugged all sensors in. got a couple little things left...(the little things is what kills you) should be up and running soon.
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Chris

[kbprice]

What size injectors are you going with?

[kairojya]

http://forum.e46fanatics.com/images/smilies/worshippy.gif

fucking awesome!

[pheobo]

How about some updated pics?

When is the next startup attempt scheduled for?

[memole]

Well not too much picture wise to show..but will post up some with fuel lines ran and harness installed.. Useing 550cc injectors....
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Chris

[burgy240]

cool, looking forward to it!

[memole]

Well piping should get welded up tonight...got the new driveshaft today...everything is starting to come back together. Will get some updated pics after they are all installed. thanks Ian and DC for helping me with this major project of mine. after a few trial and error things we are getting this thing fired up hopefully by the weekend!!!!!!
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Chris

[Shadytrixta1]

Cant wait to ride in it! Mainly to sit in my old seats!

[DC Dave]

did i just read cody say something nice about a supra motor!!!!

[Shadytrixta1]

No read it again I said something nice about my R32 seats.

[DC Dave]

hahaha ok i read wrong

[Kirk]

No read it again I said something nice about my R32 seats.

you can sit in them now, cause you aint getting a riddddde! :lol:

[burgy240]

you can sit in them now, cause you aint getting a riddddde! :lol:
:owned:
:lol: You know I love you Cody

[McLovin']

I want R32 seats :( I'LL SETTLE FOR A RIDE THOUGH!!! :crack:

[burgy240]

:werd: I want R32 seats :( I'LL SETTLE FOR A RIDE THOUGH!!! :crack:

[memole]

Well got the pipes welded and "installed" for pics. so here are some pic update. thanks again Steve for the help. And pic of the new exhuast...lol
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Chris

http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q298/zayfman/slows13001.jpg

http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q298/zayfman/slows13002.jpg

http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q298/zayfman/slows13003.jpg

[back2Nissan]

:poon: get'r runnin already! :poon:

[memole]

working on it man!!! All the parts are there..just have to finish putting it back together....need to find some time....lol
Just me
Chris

[DannyBoy21069]

cool pipes

[McLovin']

baller exhaust big boi ;) looks awesome man, can't wait to hear the unmatched supremicy of L6 turbo exhaust threw it!!!

[Jordan T]

nice

[Ronald Mcdonald]

This car just gets better and better everytime you make an update.

In case you didn't catch it, that means give us updates more frequently!

[Silver_Moss_S14]

I don't think I've posted in this thread yet but I've been following the progress since you've started making regular updates. She's looking really good and the project seems to be moving along quite nicely. I haven't gone back threw and reread but what are your power goals for the car? Mid 400's I'd assume(?)

[Kirk]

I don't think I've posted in this thread yet but I've been following the progress since you've started making regular updates. She's looking really good and the project seems to be moving along quite nicely. I haven't gone back threw and reread but what are your power goals for the car? Mid 400's I'd assume(?)

He should see 400's on the current turbo, but honestly there isnt a power "goal".
I see this car having a big single in the future. :)

Should be running this weekend... I already have a good base map for his MAP ECU which will need minimal tuning.

[memole]

Have a feeling kirk is right about the big SINGLE....but I need to get used to driving something in the 400 range...as my SR wasnt even close to that..lol
Just me
Chris

[memole]

Well I think it might finally start tomorrow.. maybe Ill drive it home....depends on the little things we find after it starts....
Just me
Chris

[livetodrive]

sick! but i hate all these different make motor swaps. whats wrong with the SR?>


slow and very un original

[fireisoverrated]

Ive seen this car first hand and I gotta tell you its one of the cleanest Ive seen. The pics don't do it justice. You can tell this isnt being half-assed

[Failure]

Cant wait for more updates!

(Edit) did you get it running yet?

[sleeperEK9]

hurry up and get it running so you can wetsand and buff my car!!!!!! hahaha

[burgy240]

Ive seen this car first hand and I gotta tell you its one of the cleanest Ive seen. The pics don't do it justice. You can tell this isnt being half-assed

I haven't seen ANYTHING half-assed by Chris. If you ever need any proof of his work you can check out his interior. He does that kind of work for all his customers too. Can't wait to see this running man!

[memole]

IT IS ALIVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Got it started today, let it idle for about 10 mins to check for any leaks..stuff like that..... going to finsh the fuel map tuning part tomorrow..then hopefully start driving it again on wednesday...might make it out to the meet wednesday night...depends on if we can get the exhuast finished up..running open downpipe now...sounds sick...but not friendly...lol
Just me
Chris

[SR20s13]

badass....congrats chris!

[Kirk]

it does sound sick

Junior owes me $20 because he said I couldn't get it started today, took nothing but 20 minutes to figure it out beeatch! :D

I should have the fuel map tuned pretty good tomorrow or wednesday so it can be tearing up the streets. I am limited on time since I only touch this car after hours :)

That means Chris will be spittin out some baller as paint jobs in NO time for the next few days since hes happy :lol:

[memole]

Yes SIR!!!!!!!!!!!!
Just Me
Chris

[Failure]

Vid or ban? haha lets see the dyno on this thing asap

[Kirk]

I'll get a video of it tomorrow, it sounds gangsta :)

LS1 FTMFL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Shadytrixta1]

Sweet should I start pulling my car apart? J/K congrats Chris cant wait to see you happy!

[memole]

Well guys./..
the car is running extremely rich.... still figureing out the map ecu settings. probably wont be driving it anytime soon....
Just me
Chris

[Kirk]

We are using a USB to serial cable converter on my laptop and I think its making the tuning process a headache...

I can not say I am a fan of the map ecu at all on karmen vortex cars.

[memole]

looks like as soon as I have the money I WILL be going to aem...lol
Just me
Chris

[BOOST JUNKIE]

stock ecu ftl :) congrats on gettin her runnin!!

[McLovin']

thats seriously awesome chris!!!! what did u ever do about the hood issue? hows the baller GP Sports sound? I CANT WAIT TO SEE THIS BAD BITCH!!

[memole]

exhuast isnt on yet...running open downpipe...hood fits fine...what a surprise...just need to get this thing tuned!!!!
Just me
Chris

[burgy240]

Nice work Chris

[memole]

having issues trying to find a laptop that has serial cable output...our laptops dont have it and when we use the conversion cable something is lost in translation...freezes up the software...lol working on the problem though...
thanks guys
Just me
Chris

[Kirk]

Will have a laptop for you tomorrow chrissy poo :lol:

[Jap]

Alot of people have to use a Keyspan USB - Serial adapter .

When tuning DSMLink you can't use a normal cable you must use a keyspan .. I've also tuned a MAP ECU with a keyspan adapter . They run about 50 or so but well worth the amount spent

[Kirk]

Alot of people have to use a Keyspan USB - Serial adapter .

When tuning DSMLink you can't use a normal cable you must use a keyspan .. I've also tuned a MAP ECU with a keyspan adapter . They run about 50 or so but well worth the amount spent

We're just going to use a laptop with a Serial port, no more usb->serial wires. I had luck with mine on me AEM EMS on both my cars but the MAP ECU doesn't like it.

[Kirk]

Got her running smooth as butter now!!!! It's ready for the final tune... will be on the road tomorrow!!!!

[Kirk]

Drove it around today, w00t w00t!!!

[back2Nissan]

Drove it around today, w00t w00t!!!
But...... Fouls plugs like a biatch! be honest. lol

[Kirk]

But...... Fouls plugs like a biatch! be honest. lol

Rich as fooooock

Plugs don't last long when Mr Chris keeps starting it up just to listen to it run rich as hell :lol:

[Shadytrixta1]

Just keep it in boost to keep the plugs clean.

[Silver_Moss_S14]

+1...good suggestion Cody. Boost solves everything!

[McLovin']

domestics say more fuel... imports say MORE BBBBOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSSSTTT!!!!!!

[memole]

more boost just means more fuel dumping.. that didnt work last night when we drove it around...unless the puff of black smoke between shifts doesnt bother u...it did me...lol
keep the suggestions coming guys...lol
Just me
Chris

[sleeperEK9]

is the VTEC wired correctly?

[Kirk]

No, i think the vtec solenoid is bad like your's was the other day! :lol:

[Silver_Moss_S14]

Kirk, teach me how to tune. I wanna learn that shit w/o blowing up someones or my motor!

[Kirk]

Got the car tuned perfect now for the boost it is set at, but ran into a slight mechanical problem which is going to delay the car being released into the wild by another week at most. I was not present when Chris was installing the cams and he accidentally applied too much sealant on the #1 exhaust cam cap and blocked an oil passage... so a new head will be installed this week and the car will be ready to roll!!

[Ronald Mcdonald]

So without prying too far, approximately how much was spent on this swap?

Any way we could get a price breakdown? Even though I'm sure it comes with a slight employee hook-up.

Also, did you guys document the whole swap for maybe some sort of write-up?

I think TR definitely needs a write up section dedicated to only the well written/documented write ups, esp. for stuff like this.

[Kirk]

So without prying too far, approximately how much was spent on this swap?

Any way we could get a price breakdown? Even though I'm sure it comes with a slight employee hook-up.

Also, did you guys document the whole swap for maybe some sort of write-up?

I think TR definitely needs a write up section dedicated to only the well written/documented write ups, esp. for stuff like this.

You are looking anywhere near $10K-15K depending on the turbo components used. In this case we used a Peter Farrell manifold, SP57 turbo, Tial 38mm W/G, MAP ECU 2, 550cc injectors. We are the first in the country to do the NA-T swap on a 240.

This car is downright NASTY, going to throw in a new head this coming week (Maybe by Monday????)

I will give you a shopping list of the things you will need to make this swap happen:

Motor (2JZ-GE or GTE)
Motor Mounts
Custom Clutch Lines
If you do with the 2JZ-GE you NEED to make braided lines for your brake booster
2JZ-GE or GTE Engine Harness
2JZ-GE or 2JZ-GTE ECU
S13 or S14 Engine Harness (depends on your application)
Modify the 2JZ Harness
Custom 1 piece driveshaft
We used a Dakota Digital SGI-5 to get the Speedo to work and a Dakota Digital SGI-8 for the Tachometer
Electric Fans (Belt driven fan will not fit.)
Sway Bar spacers to clear oil pan
Piggy back (We used the MAP ECU2)
Injectors
Fuel Pressure Regulator
Braided Fuel Lines w/ Heat jacket since they are on the exhaust side of the motor now.
Walbro or Supra TT Fuel Pump
Koyo Radiator
IC piping
etc....

It adds up in the end but I can defiantly say its worth it. :D

[THE_ONE]

^^ Answer your damn phone!!!!!!!!!

[marksaccord95]

chris still likes peni though

[nisson93]

nice

[Kirk]

^^ Answer your damn phone!!!!!!!!!

As you can tell I've been busy lately.

[DC Dave]

lie all lies lol jfwy

[memole]

yepper.. I messed up...not happy about it but what can you do about it. Kirk is pretty much dead on with costs.and the shopping list is quite long... as you guys saw. hopefully get the head changed out tomorrow, depends if I can get away...and then up and running again... I really want to get this thing out by wednesday night and see if I can make the meet up by my house... we will hop for the best, but as always expect the worst...just becuase this is so custom being the NA-T motor... like Kirk said we are the first to do the NA-T setup in 240... we are getting there..and I wasn't there when he ran hillsbourgh, but heard it sounded pretty nasty.. Cant wait to ride in it myself..lol
Just me
Chris

[Kirk]

About 65% throttle and no traction, FTW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Your SR never did that. :D

[Shadytrixta1]

^^Yes it did, looked good going by sideways too!

[DC Dave]

it not like it wont do that with 400+ hp

[jonBODON]

too slow!!!!!!!! 2JZ FTMFW

So why not put a boat motor in it??????

wait you are you said 2jz.
justt kiding i love toyota! and nissan so yay for this project!

[Kirk]

cell phone sneak peek....
http://www.clubna-t.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/166098545_549324636_0.jpg

[DC Dave]

damn looks good, but its a camera phone i would like to see ur 900$ camera put to use kirk

[Kirk]

damn looks good, but its a camera phone i would like to see ur 900$ camera put to use kirk

ian's $900 camera maybe, I paid $2K for mine :lol:

That is all you fockers are getting for now until we throw on the bumper/hood.

If I am bored tomorrow I will most likely go to the shop and replace the head and finish everything. Who knows.

[DC Dave]

well IM SORRY!!!! lol

[Shadytrixta1]

ian's $900 camera maybe, I paid $2K for mine :lol:

That is all you fockers are getting for now until we throw on the bumper/hood.

If I am bored tomorrow I will most likely go to the shop and replace the head and finish everything. Who knows.

Do it wuss Ill come help you if you wanna help me hold a subframe up while i put 4 bolts in!

[burgy240]

Do it wuss Ill come help you if you wanna help me hold a subframe up while i put 4 bolts in!

Let me know if you need someone Cody.

[Kirk]

Do it wuss Ill come help you if you wanna help me hold a subframe up while i put 4 bolts in!

use the forklift you lazy beeatch!!!!!

I'll be there today... leaving here in 10 minutes. yes i don't waste time

I'll leave the back door unlocked so just use the magic keypad password to get in if you are coming, or if you forget it call my cell

[Kirk]

I got everything off so far minus the head studs, running to Advance to get the 12pt 12mm socket and off she goes!

[memole]

Kirk already has the motor apart... I am trying to get down there to help out. had a big birthday party yesterday for wifey...cleaning stuff up...lol
Just me
Chris

[BluRRboSi]

damn... head scarred... GL chris

[memole]

we got anther head already/ going to the shop in abut 30 mins to help finish it up/ it will be running again today..and I will probably drive uit home and finish the interior tonight or tmorrow night. then ready to go out on the town... Thanks Kirk for all the help in getting this done today...
Just me
Chris

[Kirk]

Just got back from St pete from picking up the new head/cams. W00t w00t, back to work I go. I got pictures of this whole process as well!!!! I will post up tonight. :D

[Silver_Moss_S14]

What cams are going in it?

[memole]

stock cams... can afford the baller ones..at least not yet.. have a vid of it running.. will post in a few
Just me
Chris

[Kirk]

This is how I roll bitches

http://www.clubna-t.com/gallery/albums/ChrisHeadSwap/kirkisthefuckinman%20001%20%28Medium%29.jpg
http://www.clubna-t.com/gallery/albums/ChrisHeadSwap/kirkisthefuckinman%20002%20%28Medium%29.jpg
http://www.clubna-t.com/gallery/albums/ChrisHeadSwap/kirkisthefuckinman%20003%20%28Medium%29.jpg
http://www.clubna-t.com/gallery/albums/ChrisHeadSwap/kirkisthefuckinman%20004%20%28Medium%29.jpg
http://www.clubna-t.com/gallery/albums/ChrisHeadSwap/kirkisthefuckinman%20005%20%28Medium%29.jpg
http://www.clubna-t.com/gallery/albums/ChrisHeadSwap/kirkisthefuckinman%20006%20%28Medium%29.jpg
http://www.clubna-t.com/gallery/albums/ChrisHeadSwap/kirkisthefuckinman%20007%20%28Medium%29.jpg
http://www.clubna-t.com/gallery/albums/ChrisHeadSwap/kirkisthefuckinman%20008%20%28Medium%29.jpg

YAYYYY new head!!!! :lol:

http://www.clubna-t.com/gallery/albums/ChrisHeadSwap/kirkisthefuckinman%20009%20%28Medium%29.jpg
http://www.clubna-t.com/gallery/albums/ChrisHeadSwap/kirkisthefuckinman%20010%20%28Medium%29.jpg
http://www.clubna-t.com/gallery/albums/ChrisHeadSwap/kirkisthefuckinman%20011%20%28Medium%29.jpg
http://www.clubna-t.com/gallery/albums/ChrisHeadSwap/kirkisthefuckinman%20012%20%28Medium%29.jpg
http://www.clubna-t.com/gallery/albums/ChrisHeadSwap/kirkisthefuckinman%20013%20%28Medium%29.jpg
http://www.clubna-t.com/gallery/albums/ChrisHeadSwap/kirkisthefuckinman%20014%20%28Medium%29.jpg
http://www.clubna-t.com/gallery/albums/ChrisHeadSwap/kirkisthefuckinman%20015%20%28Medium%29.jpg
http://www.clubna-t.com/gallery/albums/ChrisHeadSwap/kirkisthefuckinman%20016%20%28Medium%29.jpg

Car is back up and running again and ready for the final tune after swapping the head out today.

[memole]

Well here are some poor quality video... sorry there are small but thats how my camera takes vids... but you get an idea, this is running just a base map with a little tweaking..still need final tune like Kirk said.. but he did a lot of work today...thanks again..
Just me
Chris
Here is the pic of the broken cam..at least the gear side...lol
http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q298/zayfman/DSC09677.jpg

Vids

http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q298/zayfman/th_MOV09680.jpg (http://s139.photobucket.com/albums/q298/zayfman/?action=view&current=MOV09680.flv)

http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q298/zayfman/th_MOV09678.jpg (http://s139.photobucket.com/albums/q298/zayfman/?action=view&current=MOV09678.flv)

http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q298/zayfman/th_MOV09682.jpg (http://s139.photobucket.com/albums/q298/zayfman/?action=view&current=MOV09682.flv)

[Kirk]

Sounds nice on video

That's not bad for just getting a new head today!! :lol:

[kbprice]

Glad I could be of service.
kbprice@yahoo.com

[memole]

Glad I could be of service.
kbprice@yahoo.com

thanks again for the head and cams....
Just me
Chris

[Kirk]

Glad I could be of service.
kbprice@yahoo.com

Check your paypal !

Thanks for letting me stop by today to pick up the head and cams!! It worked perfect as you can see :)

How does your car sound on the new baller cam setup???

[memole]

Kirk Ill probably have the cash for you next time I see you.. I forgot to give it to you before you left tonight..thanks again
Just me
Chris

[Kirk]

No problem man, it was fun :)

[back2Nissan]

You guys are awesome, fast and furious!! lol . Seriously, the thing sounds sick. Great job on the quick turnaround.

[Shadytrixta1]

Hmmm....Some one buy my SR!!!

[memole]

I think Clint wants an SR try hitting him up...lol
Just me
Chris

[DC Dave]

It Lives!!!!!!!

[Projekt]

I was wondering why was Kirk taking the same picture over and over again until I saw the cams and realized he was using a tripod for pics.......


Car looks really good.

[Kirk]

I was wondering why was Kirk taking the same picture over and over again until I saw the cams and realized he was using a tripod for pics.......


Car looks really good.

Thats how fast I changed that head out, can't even tell a difference between the pics! :lol:

[marksaccord95]

Sounds nice on video

That's not bad for just getting a new head today!! :lol:

u gave chris head today?

[Kirk]

u gave chris head today?

yea since you aren't around anymore

how are the boys of san fransisco treating you?

[Kirk]

i spy with my little eyes....

http://www.clubna-t.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/166825884_551837865_0.jpeg

2JZ 240 w00t w00t !!!!!!!!

[GenJada]

very nice

[memole]

Yes everybody its back on the road. I didnt even know Kirk took that pic...lol still need final tune. but drives great under "normal" conditions..lol
Just me
Chris

[Shadytrixta1]

Nice hope your happy Chris

[kbprice]

Curious, did you have to do any adjusting to the valve shims? I've got a little tap in mine with the new cam on one or two valves.

[Kirk]

Curious, did you have to do any adjusting to the valve shims? I've got a little tap in mine with the new cam on one or two valves.

No sir, everything was fine

[burgy240]

Sick!! can't wait to see this after a final tune too!

[Kirk]

This is his daily driver also :lol: :D

[memole]

Guy got busy today...didnt get a chance to tune. Hopefully tomorrow he will get to it. Will still be out tonight at the meet up here in wesley chapel..but not under boost...lol...not yet anyways...
Just me
Chris

[reecer34]

dont mind me asking but what kind of blue is your car painted?

[Shadytrixta1]

stock blue!

[memole]

it is the stock color..1993 TK3 nissan
Just me
Chris

[HndaGrl_PR]

Wooooooo $20.00 bucks :lol:

[memole]

Wooooooo $20.00 bucks :lol:

I don't quite understand this??
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Chris

[Alpha]

The car is very nice. From the paint down to the swap. I enjoyed it :D Will be a lot more fun when it gets an AEM EMS though :thumbup: :thumbup:

[Kirk]

I don't quite understand this??
Just me
Chris

JR owes me 20 bucks from betting me i couldn't get the car running that night!

[memole]

thats right...I forgot about that..lol
funny very funny
Alpha thanks for the props... the AEM EMS wont be for a while money tight so I need you to do that magic you have with the mapecu...lol
Just me
Chris

[memole]

On the dyno now....will post numbers once we get this thing tuned...
Just me
Chris

[GsEclipse02]

looks like the car that pulled into my drive way ..... nice car if it was

[Silver_Moss_S14]

Where is it dynoing at?

[GsEclipse02]

Brotherz Racing I would assume

[memole]

Well the numbers sucked to be honest...the mapecu that I am using is pretty much worthless for my application...it ran too rich..and no matter how much fuel we pulled out it seemed the factory ecu took over, driving around not in boost runs great. I am getting the AEM after all. then we will post the numbers. here is the best we got today..running at 10.3 A/F under boost..could not lean it out... the Torque was like 443. but HP was only 209... pretty messed up numbers if you ask me. the wheels also started to slip on the dyno..I dont have a lot of tread left on those tires.
Give me about a week or so and I will hopfully have the aem. I have posted up in a few places looking for one. thanks again Alpha for the help... when AEM get wired in YOU will be tuning it again,..lol
Thanks again
Just me

[back2Nissan]

Wise choice on the AEM.

[Alpha]

I'm still a little emo I couldnt get it worked out. MAP-CAL2 or something is odd. I dont have a lot of experience with it but enough experience tuning. Drove the car with Kirk. A:F was 10.8:1 - 11.5:1 depending upon the load. Got to the dyno and a:f went into the 9's. I took a lot of fuel out of the original map and it barely broke into the 10's. Spun the tires on the dyno that pull. Oh well. I will try and find you an AEM EMS here shortly

[burgy240]

AHHHH, the wondeful world of modified cars! You'll have that beast running strong in no time flat man. Keep up the good work and keep us posted.

[Kirk]

bootleg piggybacks FTL.

AEM FTW.

[memole]

EXACTLY!!!!!

bootleg piggybacks FTL.

AEM FTW.

[Shadytrixta1]

Well I was thinking about MAP ECU for the Z, but thank you Chris I will be sticking with the Megasquirt or Haltech!

[memole]

Well I think we fixed the issues with MapECU..giving it another try wed night at the dyno... if this doesnt work AEM for the win...lol
Just me
Chris

[BOOST JUNKIE]

Curse of the karmen

[Kirk]

You can say that again... VJ hit me up if you find out anything :)

[Kirk]

http://www.clubna-t.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/brotherz%200171.jpg

Brotherz FTW

[Ronald Mcdonald]

Damn, that's an awesome picture.

What kind of numbers did it put down?

[memole]

We didnt fix the issues after all... going aem. After I save up a bit and can buy one we will get some numbers. thanks again alpha for the help and Brotherz to let us come late again...
Just me
Chris

[kbprice]

Maybe we can get a group buy going on AEM's for us NA-t'ers;) .

[Kirk]

Maybe we can get a group buy going on AEM's for us NA-t'ers;) .

We have 3 on the list so far, let me know if you are interested in getting one as well and I will let you know the price once we have a nice chunky list lol

I already got mine! w00t!

[kbprice]

You know I'm in. Put my name on the list.

[Kirk]

I'll see if I can find out an estimate today and I will give you a call

[awdsal]

very nice car

[memole]

thanks.. we are trying a few different things with it now. until we get the aem in I still need to drive it...lol
Just me
Chris

[agentAndy]

car looks awesome

[memole]

Thanks andy..
Having issues with that damn map ecu thing. I think I got a bad one. It wont even power up now.. it was running really good the other day then BAM..stop powering up,even though its gettting power.. cursed 2JZ 240 project...lol
Just me
Chris

[Alpha]

Thanks andy..
Having issues with that damn map ecu thing. I think I got a bad one. It wont even power up now.. it was running really good the other day then BAM..stop powering up,even though its gettting power.. cursed 2JZ 240 project...lol
Just me
Chris

Sorry to hear that Chris. Damn that things :lol: :mad:

[memole]

Its sort of the norm with this car at this point. ..lol..anywho.. waiting for an aem... of course I need to order one first...lol
Just me
Chris

[memole]

ok guys..got AEM installed!!!!!!!!!! car started up tonight.... Just need kirk to come over and work it a little... KIRK CALL ME IN THE AM!!!!!!!
thanks again
Just me
Chris

[pimpn132]

why didnt you just buy the twin turbo motor from a supra if you were going turbo? this thing is sick as hell regardless g/l with everything.

[Alpha]

why didnt you just buy the twin turbo motor from a supra if you were going turbo? this thing is sick as hell regardless g/l with everything.

He posted why a couple times ;)