went to DB drag

[1stGen7]

well about 3 weeks agaio they had a DB drag down the road. took my freinds car 1984 buick skylark 2 12's in a bandpass box 1 sony 10 in the cab 10's hooked to a sony 1000 watt 12's are hooked to a sony 1200 watt. 1st time wasa 139.5 2nd on a diff meter was a 129.5 are these any good? now we upgraded and now we got 6 12's and 1 10 soon to add another 1200 watt amp.

[k4rts]

not bad for such shitty equipment. btw dont mix sub sizes.

[1stGen7]

why not? does it sound bad or something?

[P057]

yeah... 139 isnt too bad... for the crap equipment.


why not? does it sound bad or something?


really only if you overlap the frequencies that they play at.

leave the big subs for playing ... ie. 30-60 hz and the smaller subs at 70-150 hz i guess.

I actually want to try this out extensively. and try and find a good combination between two 12's and two 10's.


not until i get a jigsaw though ;)

[1stGen7]

well im hopeing for a 148 maybe 150 with the 6 12's the jesens that where in the bandpass are now gone and there 2 kenwoods in there

[smokeyxrt]

if i was your friend i would buy 2-4 really good subs.. and you should see in the mid 145 range if you have decent amps on them..and what kind of meters were used for the big difference in the runs??

[1stGen7]

ummmmmmmmmmmmmm i have no clue i forgot heres the guy that did it



centralfloridaspl.com (http://www.centralfloridaspl.com)

[ShakinIt]

well about 3 weeks agaio they had a DB drag down the road. took my freinds car 1984 buick skylark 2 12's in a bandpass box 1 sony 10 in the cab 10's hooked to a sony 1000 watt 12's are hooked to a sony 1200 watt. 1st time wasa 139.5 2nd on a diff meter was a 129.5 are these any good? now we upgraded and now we got 6 12's and 1 10 soon to add another 1200 watt amp.

sooo, why did you run 1000 watts to one 10 and only 200 more to 2 12's??

and now you have 6 12's ( what kind) running off the 1200 watt amp???

quite a hodgepodge of equipment you have there

[Notladstyle]

SPL is SPL.

It doesnt matter what size the subs are as long as they receive proper power to maintain phase.

Unles you know what kind of meter it was on, the numbers are pretty useless. 139 is good for the equipment, 129 is disapointing.

[the727kid]

well im hopeing for a 148 maybe 150 with the 6 12's the jesens that where in the bandpass are now gone and there 2 kenwoods in there

:lol::lol:Ya'll obviously don't know how to install well (no offense). And 150 let alone 148 is very hard to reach. The Kicker Van with 16 12s hit like 150 on the TL with the CVRs.

[canyouheminow]

Reching 150 or higher is tough, it's all about set up. I only hit high 145's and have some pretty good stuff and a decent set up. In the work of car audio if you buy cheap you get cheap, spend a little extra and do it right the first time.

[1stGen7]

pics

http://www.tamparacing.com/photopost/data/500/medium/Feb15161.JPG

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more for you guys to laugh at seen as thats all you guys do when i post.. i hope you guys feel good picking on a guy with no money. i dont have 1000+ to go spend of good stuff i mean shit notladstyle seen my house he knows i dont have money. so keep laughing i dont care atleast im trying and doing it myself

[the727kid]

Man do what you do!! Ain't no one laughing cuz you can't afford A+ shit, most people can't. I'd say flip them subs(got 6 of em lol) and with the money you get buy 2 12" Type-Rs, and a build a nice box for them. Would come out real clean and you could keep a back seat.

[P057]

yeah and stop buying sony gear. seriously. :puke:

[1stGen7]

that box where the back seat would be is mine for my s-10 i just threw it in his car to get it out of my truck he bought my old box for 8 12's and wants to put it in there and im going to do what he wants.. so 10 12's and 1 10 comeing soon (i dont know why he wants to keep that fucking 10 but owell its his shit not mine) going to be adding 4 more batts soon 3 maybe 4 more 1200 watt amps. 2 maybe 3 more caps runing a 4AWG wire from the alt to the batt to help it charge better.. i mean shit this is ghetto i dont care im ghetto so what LOL

[P057]

that box where the back seat would be is mine for my s-10 i just threw it in his car to get it out of my truck he bought my old box for 8 12's and wants to put it in there and im going to do what he wants.. so 10 12's and 1 10 comeing soon (i dont know why he wants to keep that fucking 10 but owell its his shit not mine) going to be adding 4 more batts soon 3 maybe 4 more 1200 watt amps. 2 maybe 3 more caps runing a 4AWG wire from the alt to the batt to help it charge better.. i mean shit this is ghetto i dont care im ghetto so what LOL

with the near 800 bucks you'd be spending on almost literally useless batteries... why dont you buy yourself 2 very good subwoofers and 2 amps that put out more than the 500 or less watts of power that those sonys put out.

Trust me, you probably wont even need any batteries at all and you can stop being so ghetto ;)

[the727kid]

Sell the caps and batteries like he said. Big 3 + 0 gauge wiring and 1 decent batter will be able to hold enough power.

[tooFAT85]

i told him that he needs to stop buying the cheap shit....he could spend the same amount on good audio and get better sound and life out of it but he says they are good....but what do i know right phyll

[1stGen7]

wtf why aint you working

[the727kid]

I have no job, wanna hire me?

[1stGen7]

I have no job, wanna hire me?

what? who?

[Notladstyle]

Stop using sony amps and I promise you will gain 3db

[1stGen7]

i remeber the 2nd meter was called termlab thats the 129.5 meter

[Notladstyle]

i remeber the 2nd meter was called termlab thats the 129.5 meter

thats really bad then, I broke 131 in a tiny ass .5 cuft box with one 12.

[1stGen7]

there haveing anouther show the 25th in winterhaven i dono if we are going to make it or not..

[P057]

I'll be your termlab, i usually am only off by like .1 db anyways.

in fact, i can tell you right now by just looking at it that its going to be weak.


Dump the sonys and buy 1 ........ANYTHING but sony subwoofer. I guarantee it'll be louder and sound loads better. (and dont get a power acoustik or pyramid/pyle/no name shit brand sub either)

[Notladstyle]

there haveing anouther show the 25th in winterhaven i dono if we are going to make it or not..

rebuild the box - thats the cheapest way to gain db.

[1stGen7]

i think the box the sony is in is to big. a guy showed me how to build a box and thats how i built my box for 4 12's off his numbers and stuff he gave me.. and the box for 4 12's hits hard when we put it in there was a big diff in sound.

[joebobclark]

I'll be your termlab, i usually am only off by like .1 db anyways.

in fact, i can tell you right now by just looking at it that its going to be weak.


Dump the sonys and buy 1 ........ANYTHING but sony subwoofer. I guarantee it'll be louder and sound loads better. (and dont get a power acoustik or pyramid/pyle/no name shit brand sub either)

Hey :evil: , whats wrong with Power Acoustik...

My 2 FUBR 10's in a sealed box did 131 at Toby's, in my sealed trunk Cadillac no less. and I was having issues with my headunit that night, may be capable of more...:P

[P057]

Hey :evil: , whats wrong with Power Acoustik...

My 2 FUBR 10's in a sealed box did 131 at Toby's, in my sealed trunk Cadillac no less. and I was having issues with my headunit that night, may be capable of more...:P

Actually i dont know why i put it in there.

wait... because its PA!!! ;) hahaha im kidding, i own a PA cap and a dvd player, love(d) em both.

It depends on how you set it up, i always hear crap PA subs though =S... the people that claim 2400 watts out of a 150 dollar sub.... that just kinda worries me a bit.:crack:

[canyouheminow]

Hey :evil: , whats wrong with Power Acoustik...

My 2 FUBR 10's in a sealed box did 131 at Toby's, in my sealed trunk Cadillac no less. and I was having issues with my headunit that night, may be capable of more...:P


I agree I had an old school Power Akoustik Fire and Ice series for the longest and next to my amp now it was one of the more reliable one's I've ever owned. I had it pushing 2 Pioneer 12's in an extend cab ram and it sounded pretty good.

[joebobclark]

:lol: Some of there stuff is good, depends on what you get.
I am very impressed with the FUBR (not the FUBAR ones) subs, and Im running them with an A1800DB Class D monoblock that is very clean and doesnt even get warm.

Now my PA DVD player, oooohhh I hate that bitch....
Works when it wants to.:crack:

[1stGen7]

fucking peice of shit sony amps! the one hooked to my 4 12's keeps throwing itself into protec. fucking garbage! notladstyle how much bigger should i make the box? its 11 and 1/2 tall 11 and 1/2 deep and i think it was 10 wide with the numbers this guy gave me out there it is a 1.37 CF box.. how much bigger should i go?

[P057]

Now my PA DVD player, oooohhh I hate that bitch....
Works when it wants to.:crack:

Are you serious? Mine is clean as hell and does everything very well minus playing MP3 CDs..... It only chooses what IT wants to show it can play... its the weirdest crap ever. I'll have an entire CD's tracklist in there and even though they were all recorded the same, it will only let me play certain songs...? :?

But it does what i bought it for extremely well -- TV and DVDs! :D


I might be selling it along with my 7" LCD screen soon though... :(
still thinking about it

[Notladstyle]

fucking peice of shit sony amps! the one hooked to my 4 12's keeps throwing itself into protec. fucking garbage! notladstyle how much bigger should i make the box? its 11 and 1/2 tall 11 and 1/2 deep and i think it was 10 wide with the numbers this guy gave me out there it is a 1.37 CF box.. how much bigger should i go?

separate each chamber with wood - make them 12 x 15 x 11. Use a 3" diameter postal mailer for the port, make it 8.5 inches for each sub. that will be loud.

[1stGen7]

yeah thats not the box im useing thats just some plywood i had laying around so i made a test box to fit in my truck with my racing seats. couldent i use pvc for the port? 12 x 15 x 11? 12 tall 15 wide and 11 deep?

[Notladstyle]

yeah thats not the box im useing thats just some plywood i had laying around so i made a test box to fit in my truck with my racing seats. couldent i use pvc for the port? 12 x 15 x 11? 12 tall 15 wide and 11 deep?

3" diameter pvc is expensive and im assuming you are looking for the value bang ;) those are ballpark dimensions for each chamber.

I doubt you will get four to fit in a row without some magic.

[1stGen7]

well you see how i got 4 to fit in that box.. i had to make 2 sit out more then the outher 2 thats the only way i got the 4 to fit

[Notladstyle]

Construct this design:

http://i15.tinypic.com/3z03x1d.jpg

Hell I'll even help you with it if you drive up to my house just to make all the haters stfu about your equipment.

Ive got some PVC and other tools that will accelerate the process of building it too.

[1stGen7]

now if we only had a car that dident shut off on us... LOL this fucking buick on long drives shuts off cause the tranny or something i dono is broke.. it happend after the remote start was put in.. maybe the car dont like it? it tries to shut off when it warms up and we hit the brakes

[Notladstyle]

now if we only had a car that dident shut off on us... LOL this fucking buick on long drives shuts off cause the tranny or something i dono is broke.. it happend after the remote start was put in.. maybe the car dont like it? it tries to shut off when it warms up and we hit the brakes

... yeah when you hit the brakes the remote start always turns off :lol:

[the727kid]

Lol

[1stGen7]

no when it warms up while we are driveing itll shut off

[Notladstyle]

no when it warms up while we are driveing itll shut off

bad ignition cylinder? you might wanna look into that. you can isolate the alarm as a culprit by removing the four pins on the top of the bulldog brain and the red one on the front. They are the ignition and starter wires. None of your ignition wire were cut though - they are all thread & knot connections so it cant be a lose wire.

[1stGen7]

i know you dident cut the wires lol i was there talking your ear off the whole time.. so just unplug it and take the brain out and see if it shuts off still?

[Notladstyle]

i know you dident cut the wires lol i was there talking your ear off the whole time.. so just unplug it and take the brain out and see if it shuts off still?

just the five ignition wires.

[ShakinIt]

now if we only had a car that dident shut off on us... LOL this fucking buick on long drives shuts off cause the tranny or something i dono is broke.. it happend after the remote start was put in.. maybe the car dont like it? it tries to shut off when it warms up and we hit the brakes

maybe you should hold off on the system and get the car running first? ;)

[1stGen7]

new setup! and dalton this is till we can get you to come down and do it.. got bored and needed somewhere to mout the amps for sunday going to the next DB drag sunday..going to buy anouther 1200 watt amp DHD thursday

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[1stGen7]

got 2nd place did a 136.1 1st time and did a 136.4 the 2nd time and got 2nd place. takeing it all out and starting over a guy is building us a box tuneing it and giveing us 0 AWG power wire for free!

[the727kid]

I may be selling my BLs soon if you want to step up to some loud subs :)

[TBSpyder]

got 2nd place did a 136.1 1st time and did a 136.4 the 2nd time and got 2nd place. takeing it all out and starting over a guy is building us a box tuneing it and giveing us 0 AWG power wire for free!


For free??! Sounds like Dalton has some competition. Dalton, you're going to have to start paying people to install their stuff in order to maintain your title. :D

[Notladstyle]

For free??! Sounds like Dalton has some competition. Dalton, you're going to have to start paying people to install their stuff in order to maintain your title. :D

F that, car audio ftl.

Its all about alarms now.


... especially in a car dominated by sony ;)

[1stGen7]

sony is gone!! power acustic amps and he wants 2 15's kicker i dono the dude is giveing us a badass deal he said 180 for 2 kicker 15 solobaric's

[RickitySlick]

i think for spl the most important thing is the box. i have a box sitting in my room that used to have 2 10' audio pipe subs with a ma audio amp and i hit 139.00 my amp was the low level amp and we all know what audio pipe's quality is but the box was solid, and it was huge. TBSpyder worked at sound advice he might know the box i am talking about it was ment for a suv but i put it in my integra.
but none the less when talking about spl the most important thing in my opinion its how good the box is expecially when the box is vented.

[froggie2006]

I went to a db race last year in 06 with my truck s-10 with 2 10" mtx thunder 4500's with a small 500 bridged watt amp and i got a 140 but after the qualifying i but the subs in my bed with a cap on it with my three 12" JL w-1's with the 10"s and got about 149 and all of that was being pushed was a small 240 sony explode amp and a 500 wat memphis amp

[P057]

sony is gone!! power acustic amps and he wants 2 15's kicker i dono the dude is giveing us a badass deal he said 180 for 2 kicker 15 solobaric's

You make it sound like its a huge upgrade.....actually it probably is... damn sonys suck so fucking bad.
=[

[Notladstyle]

bahahahahahhahhahaha

[GradeA_TireFryer]

ok who is going to spring break nations at the end of the month

[RickitySlick]

ok who is going to spring break nations at the end of the month

i was going to go untill someone hit the front of my car fri night.:mad: im so pissed.

[the727kid]

I'll be at SBN

[CHUPA_CABRA_2.0]

did anyone go to the IASCA show on Sunday? It was a good show

[the727kid]

I wish I could have, I had to fix my car :(.

[CHUPA_CABRA_2.0]

there was a Kicker van completely filled with subs and amps very nice setup....but got destroyed by an I believe IS 300 (not sure didn't have my contacts) the Lexus had a detached windshield duct taped to the car. It looked crazy with the doors opened. It looked like it was gonna morphe into something.

[CHUPA_CABRA_2.0]

I will post pics tonight

[the727kid]

Jons kicker van? That now has Fi SSds? I heard the Lexus was breakin 150!!!

[CHUPA_CABRA_2.0]

153.00 sir!!! They stopped the blood bath at 152.9 the van had 152.3 not bad as bad as I made it sound but it was likae David and Goliath. Small car versus big ass van.

[the727kid]

What did he have? How were the subs facing?

[CHUPA_CABRA_2.0]

to be honest 727 I didn't even get a chance to look he kept playing music.

[Notladstyle]

vans ftl


lexus ftw regardless of how loud it is.

[1stGen7]

was the van blue? who was doing the show? the guy doing the shows i go to has a website its centralfloridaspl.com (http://centralfloridaspl.com/)

[CHUPA_CABRA_2.0]

yep Henry from Centralfloridaspl

[1stGen7]

yep Henry from Centralfloridaspl

we went to the winterhaven and lakeland show.. im going to try and have the dude that owns this car go to as meany shows as he can..