Mod. Pefromance turbo kits?

[.Seth.]

Hahn Racecraft Turbo systems for 1995-1999 Dodge / Plymouth Neons (http://modernperformance.com/dcx/hrcneon.shtml)

ok so i was looking at this turbo kit for a little down the road and it looks like its got basicly everything i'd need to do it, anyone see anything missing
Super 16g Mitsubishi turbo
(This turbo is highly known in the DSM communities for its efficiency, and fast spool up times and reliability.) Cast Stainless Steel Exhaust Manifold
Ceramic coated, mandrel bent 2 1/4 Down Pipe
Single pipe, stepped design from 2" to 2 1/4"air piping.
Standard, OE 3000 GT Blow off valve
Fuel pressure gauge for tuning of system
Fuel pump
regulator
hoses
fittings
lines
electronic mods
K&N w/ mandrel bent piping

thats exactly wat it has on the page.

anything missing other than IC?

[ozzy1]

injectors and something to tune

[Josiah]

the RRFPR tunes....and I'm pretty sure hahn kits come with injectors...call them and find out

[.Seth.]

well i didnt see anything missing so i was jus seeing if u guys did

[Ahhhh Nick!]

Fuel pump, injectors, something to tune with, rrfpr... I have a SRT-4 intercooler I can sell you also.

[.Seth.]

well if and when i get it, ill get stage 2 and i have injectors and a fuel pump, and it comes w/ a IC w/ stage 2

[.Seth.]

and there is a fuel pump lol

[Ahhhh Nick!]

Why not just do the SRT turbo? Dirt cheap setup right there!

[.Seth.]

was thinkin about it but this isent jus gunna be a 1 step thing it will be from turbo to built motor to bigger turbo to even bigger turbo and the srt mani will only hold the srt turbo

[Ahhhh Nick!]

Well the srt turbo and mani are one peice but once you get your entire srt turbo setup on your car you'll be inlove with it. When you get used to that power you can just get another manifold and a different turbo and that's it. Just a quick/inexpensive way to go turbo.

[.Seth.]

very true

[neondriver]

if you have the money go for the hann kit, you can do the srt kit for around 1,200(ive pieced it together in the past) but if you want to go bigger and bigger youll end up replacing mos of the parts with better ones and in the end you may spend more than the hann kit is alone. trust me i pieced together a full turbo kit and if you have time and knowledge its possible but still a pain an takes a while. its much easier to just buy the kit which has everything included

[.Seth.]

yeah i was planning on saving the money i would ussually spend on moding the motor and saving it then whne i get enough buy the whole kit and be done w/ it

[neondriver]

yeah i was planning on saving the money i would ussually spend on moding the motor and saving it then whne i get enough buy the whole kit and be done w/ it

that would be the best way, plus the hann kit is made specific for the car and when installed it is clean and not a bunch of used pieced together parts to make due. ive heard hann is good quality and there are many neons running that kit out there.

[.Seth.]

that would be the best way, plus the hann kit is made specific for the car and when installed it is clean and not a bunch of used pieced together parts to make due. ive heard hann is good quality and there are many neons running that kit out there.


well most the stuff modern. perf. sells in high quality from what i can see, but now alls i need is the 3.5k lol

[neondriver]

well most the stuff modern. perf. sells in high quality from what i can see, but now alls i need is the 3.5k lol

yep, ive bought from them before. i have pratically every item on their engine performance page on my car except a turbo kit. if i was you id build the motor up first ten think turbo. built 2.0 with nitrous can beat a turbo car and stil be under 3.5k. then go turbo and have it all.

[.Seth.]

well im getting a pretty much built head soon and will have new pistons n rod's after that, then the saving start

[Josiah]

do NOT under any circumstance build the car up before going turbo...2 reasons..

1. There are some NA items that are incompatible with turbo...to name a few...cold air intakes, headers, high compression pistons, big cams

2. Save your money for the turbo kit...you will gain more HP for less money than NA(or even nitrous for that matter) over the long run

the exception to this rule is if you decide to rebuild your motor with forged internals before going turbo...in which case try to keep the compression at 9.2:1 or less for best forced induction results

[.Seth.]

I already have headers and intake, and i was planning on going w/ a forced induction crower cam and low comp. pistons (9:8:1 or so)

[Josiah]

9.8:1 isnt low enough for any real boost...max safe boost would be around 13psi...maybe 15psi with good tuning, to give you an example...the compression on my built engine is 9:1 and thats about the highest you want for a turbo engine...capable of 25psi on a good tune, but still fairly snappy off boost

[.Seth.]

well ill do sum research about it, im not sure the compression. i was gunna run turbo and n20 more than likely wat would be the best compression?

[Josiah]

most people will argue you dont want to boost past 10psi with 9.8:1(I have personally seen some guys running 15 with a good tune...and one nutcase running 18...though I think he blew his engine up later)

http://bellsouthpwp.net/t/a/tabreaux/table.JPG

heres a nice chart for you, you are looking for the figure closest to 20 for your overall boost PSI...which at 10:1(closest it has to 9.8:1) is roughly 15psi...after that you are in the danger zone...especially with the added abuse of nitrous, I'll be running at about 20psi myself,ho which I should be able to get away with because my engine will be running on E85(ethanol) rather than gas...E85 has a 105 octane rating and cools the intake charge somewhat(which you wont really be able to use unless you run MegaSquirt....not to mention you may not have an E85 station near you...unless you want to distill the stuff yourself)

[FLNeonRT]

Take his word for it. I made short order of a stock engine that was otherwise in good condition with the exception of an oil leak from a head gasket. I ran on a bad tune for just alittle bit and it was enough to start tearing things up on stock compression (9.6:1). Drop the compression to 9:1 and set it rich and start tuning.

A kit is always gonna be hella expensive. You can find great used parts and build everything foralot less then that and spend the money elsewhere to keep your engine running safly at higher power outputs then what that kit will give you.

[.Seth.]

thanks josiah and FL, ill be doing more research, i should be able to peice it together in about a yr or so

[Lil'loco]

What do you think about a Srt/4 ???

[.Seth.]

^what about it?