View Full Version : starting the wheel well box...
1stGen7
09-24-2006, 02:00 PM
ok well today we got the angle we want and 1 sub is about to be mounted to test fit... then the 2nd one here are some pic's
PS please dont flame me for useing plywood it was free
1stGen7
09-24-2006, 02:39 PM
lol i allways got something going but atleast its a sub box this time not a mids and highs box
Notladstyle
09-24-2006, 02:50 PM
looks sexy.. keep the pics comin
1stGen7
09-24-2006, 03:03 PM
ok will do added more braces cause it was still kinda flimbsy
1stGen7
09-24-2006, 03:07 PM
pics about to start the outher side pics up when done
-campy-
09-24-2006, 03:10 PM
ya i am in the process of building my custom fiberglass box for my eclipse my resin dryin as we speak and it is sexy as hell so anyone who wants a fiberglass box jus pm me and we will talk numbers srry did not mean to hijack ur thread but its turning out nice man g/l
1stGen7
09-24-2006, 04:28 PM
update
got trhe 2nd hole cut out and the 2 rings... got it mounted and braced... heres some pics
1stGen7
09-24-2006, 04:30 PM
more pics sorry had to add a few of my tall goofy looking ass cuting wood
Its shaping up nice, get that bitch err fiberglassed* up!!
1stGen7
09-24-2006, 08:46 PM
as soon as i get som resin dono when thatll be
Notladstyle
09-24-2006, 09:59 PM
i dont think u will need that much bracing once you get 5 or 6 layers of fiberglass on it. I would save that volume because those subs are gonna be struggling as it is.
ya i am in the process of building my custom fiberglass box for my eclipse my resin dryin as we speak and it is sexy as hell so anyone who wants a fiberglass box jus pm me and we will talk numbers srry did not mean to hijack ur thread but its turning out nice man g/l
Its impossible to beat my $75 mexican labor install price :D
Color me a noob, but I am not following what you are doing here. I mean, yeah, fiberglass, all that jazz. But whats the point of the plywood, is that the "back" of the box?
Notladstyle
09-25-2006, 07:29 AM
Color me a noob, but I am not following what you are doing here. I mean, yeah, fiberglass, all that jazz. But whats the point of the plywood, is that the "back" of the box?
Thats the "Top" of the box. And its to get the shape right?
im not feeling the plywood either tho, but my reason is quality - MDF is 10x better and will hold screws more reliably. But I guess that doesnt really matter assuming you coat the entire structure with resin.
1stGen7
09-25-2006, 10:13 AM
2 more pics till fiberglassing
TBSpyder
09-25-2006, 12:15 PM
2 more pics till fiberglassing
Cool...you need some mdf though.
1stGen7
09-25-2006, 01:39 PM
not my box i got to work with what the dude suplied... he got the plywood for free
Thats the "Top" of the box. And its to get the shape right?
im not feeling the plywood either tho, but my reason is quality - MDF is 10x better and will hold screws more reliably. But I guess that doesnt really matter assuming you coat the entire structure with resin.
So now judging from the new set of pictures..this isnt as much as wheel well box as it is sitting on top of the wheel well box. This seems like going about it the wrong way. Glass the inside of the well first, then supports/rings/false floor, and then finish it. Well at least thats my experience.
TBSpyder
09-25-2006, 03:59 PM
not my box i got to work with what the dude suplied... he got the plywood for free
Free or not...the amount of time you'll be putting into it isn't free. Why waste your time doing something half-assed when it could sound alot better using the correct materials?
And yeah, a wheel well box is a sub enclosure which is recessed into the wheel well...not on top. :D
1stGen7
09-25-2006, 05:38 PM
Free or not...the amount of time you'll be putting into it isn't free. Why waste your time doing something half-assed when it could sound alot better using the correct materials?
And yeah, a wheel well box is a sub enclosure which is recessed into the wheel well...not on top. :D
his dad is cheap whay can i say? he got the plywood from work and told me to use it i live with the guy cause my moms dateing him and we moved so so i gota do what i gota do you know... you see the subs like i said he cheap.. im allso doing this for free seen as this is my 1st sub box..
Notladstyle
09-25-2006, 07:36 PM
regardless, that plywood will not hold screws very well. If you swap/remove those subs more than twice you will have stripped holes in the wood.
1stGen7
09-25-2006, 11:27 PM
update got the fabric over the top tonight and will finish up tomarow
did you do the inside part of the box yet?
Notladstyle
09-26-2006, 09:16 AM
That inside is gonna be a bitch if u do it last.
That inside is gonna be a bitch if u do it last.
Well they are finishing up soon. So I cant wait to see it. I have a sneaking suspicion there isnt supposed to be anything under the plywood, and the "baffle" is going to be somehow sealed up on top of the well, and that will be the box.
Notladstyle
09-26-2006, 12:04 PM
Well they are finishing up soon. So I cant wait to see it. I have a sneaking suspicion there isnt supposed to be anything under the plywood, and the "baffle" is going to be somehow sealed up on top of the well, and that will be the box.
doubtful. hes just doin it out of order
scrapin_honda
09-26-2006, 01:52 PM
i would love to point out the obvios here.this box is being done cheap so why would he buy mdf when plywood is free??come on not like those dub subs are gonna be loud enough to crack the wood. is it not that obvious that this person just wants something pretty.lol.
TBSpyder
09-26-2006, 02:05 PM
i would love to point out the obvios here.this box is being done cheap so why would he buy mdf when plywood is free??come on not like those dub subs are gonna be loud enough to crack the wood. is it not that obvious that this person just wants something pretty.lol.
That's not the point. The point is using the correct materials will allow the equipment being used to play optimally. Install is 80% of a system, a good install can make even the shittiest equipment sound decent. I seriously doubt he's willing to put all that time into fiberglassing a box and doesn't give a damn about how it sounds.
You should know that, having been involved with such high end spl competitors.
doubtful. hes just doin it out of order
Can only hope.
1stGen7
09-26-2006, 04:20 PM
did you do the inside part of the box yet?
ok im confused now what inside? do i gota build a box inside it or something....
1stGen7
09-26-2006, 06:54 PM
got all the top fabric stapled down waiting for fiberglass matt and resin to finish i dono how to do the bottem yet, but i think what ima do is use a price of fabric to get my shape then fiberglass inside of that, or i thought about puting some plastic or something the resin wont get though seen as he wants the to be removeable and puting the matt ontop of that then puting the resin down... i dono what you think?
1stGen7
09-26-2006, 09:18 PM
more pics
TBSpyder
09-26-2006, 10:02 PM
Get those wrinkles out if you can, or you're gonna have a hell of a time trying to smooth it out later on.
1stGen7
09-26-2006, 11:45 PM
yeah i thought about that but ima bondo over it anyways so i thought why fight it to try and get them out
Notladstyle
09-27-2006, 02:16 AM
why didnt you just coat the wheel well itself? perfect shape and much faster.
1stGen7
09-27-2006, 03:39 AM
why didnt you just coat the wheel well itself? perfect shape and much faster.
what you mean? lay the matt in the wheel well and put the resin over it? im geting confused and stuff.. this box is becomeing a nightmare
ok im confused now what inside? do i gota build a box inside it or something....
Sounds like this is coming along well.
Here I crafted this gem
http://home.comcast.net/~jreade11/Stereo/well.jpg
Notladstyle
09-27-2006, 04:23 PM
^^^ Good writeup. But for those of us who are impatient, use a painters mat and spot spray 3m Adhesive into the wheel well. Then use a cheap ass sheet from wallmart to hold the shape and after you have the shape you can take it out and finish layering it in comfort. After you get the layers on, staple that bitch to the wood and layer the fuck out of it with more fiberglass. make sure you use a shitload because the wood/fiberglass seam will split under high pressure if its not really good.
1stGen7
09-27-2006, 04:38 PM
i got most of the wrinkles out
^^^ Good writeup. But for those of us who are impatient, use a painters mat and spot spray 3m Adhesive into the wheel well. Then use a cheap ass sheet from wallmart to hold the shape and after you have the shape you can take it out and finish layering it in comfort. After you get the layers on, staple that bitch to the wood and layer the fuck out of it with more fiberglass. make sure you use a shitload because the wood/fiberglass seam will split under high pressure if its not really good.
that works too, just I dont lik the thickness, and I have no problem with regular matte.
1stGen7
09-28-2006, 04:05 PM
update ran into some problums with his outher subs hiting so i had to tare it all back apart and start all over... cut the top part to match up to his subs ill have pics up as soon as i get both sides done...
Notladstyle
09-28-2006, 04:10 PM
update ran into some problums with his outher subs hiting so i had to tare it all back apart and start all over... cut the top part to match up to his subs ill have pics up as soon as i get both sides done...
why not build a matching enclosure for hte other subs???
Ugh, just start over all together. Do the base, build the top, call it a day. Youshould seriously only take a day or two to do this.
1stGen7
09-28-2006, 04:59 PM
why not build a matching enclosure for hte other subs???
cause his outher subs are in a bandpass and his dad wants them to stay in the car cause he bought them for him i dono..
1stGen7
09-28-2006, 05:00 PM
Ugh, just start over all together. Do the base, build the top, call it a day. Youshould seriously only take a day or two to do this.
this is my very 1st sub box im takeing my time any trying to do it right... plus i dont have the fiberglass or resin yet so im doing the top then the faberglass when i get it...
Notladstyle
09-28-2006, 05:13 PM
fiberglass = walmart(11/qt), home depot(32/gal), or lowes(32/gal)
Starting completely over is ridiculous. Even I would be like fuck you to any customer who told me to start over on a box... then again I would have tested the size before I fabbed the box :p
1stGen7
09-28-2006, 05:17 PM
fiberglass = walmart(11/qt), home depot(32/gal), or lowes(32/gal)
Starting completely over is ridiculous. Even I would be like fuck you to any customer who told me to start over on a box... then again I would have tested the size before I fabbed the box :p
yeah we dident think about his outher box. i was the one that wanted to start over not him he said to leave it like it was i was like but it looks like shit man...so i started over about to make new rings cause they where broken from the staples i guess so ima go back out side and get back to work lol ... updats after i get them made and mounted and then pics..
1stGen7
09-28-2006, 06:42 PM
im not doing no more the rings keep brakeing.. so im done till we go get a sheet of MDF
fiberglass = walmart(11/qt), home depot(32/gal), or lowes(32/gal)
Starting completely over is ridiculous. Even I would be like fuck you to any customer who told me to start over on a box... then again I would have tested the size before I fabbed the box :p
if you started the box and it all fucked up, and it wasnt going to work, and youre too stubborn to admit that you need to start over? Sounds like a recipe for disaster.
Notladstyle
09-28-2006, 07:12 PM
if you started the box and it all fucked up, and it wasnt going to work, and youre too stubborn to admit that you need to start over? Sounds like a recipe for disaster.
theres nothing fucked up with the box - the other box doesnt fit in the trunk with the one he built. where do u get stubborn from anything i posted?
1stGen7
09-28-2006, 07:41 PM
well hmm maybe its not mdf but its better then plywood? i got some pressed partical bored will it work better then plywood?
TBSpyder
09-28-2006, 09:00 PM
I don't understand why you can't simply get the right materials? I mean, hell, I have a gallon of antifreeze just laying around...maybe I should change my oil with it instead of going out and buying oil. Live and learn I guess. Do things right the first time and you more than likely won't end up having to repeat it over and over again.
1stGen7
09-28-2006, 10:09 PM
lol well he dont have the money for the right shit... he had the partical bord laying in the junk room and told us to use it... hes buying his house and paying bills... dont have alot of money to spend on his son so i have to work with what i got not my falt... im just trying to help him out with something costum..
Notladstyle
09-28-2006, 10:30 PM
If he doesnt have $60 laying around for MDF, screws, and resin, then he has no business putting four 12s in his trunk... even if they are DUBs :lol:
1stGen7
09-28-2006, 10:38 PM
2 dubs and 2 jenses lol well he dont ahve a job so he dont even have 1$ laying around
Notladstyle
09-28-2006, 10:59 PM
2 dubs and 2 jenses lol well he dont ahve a job so he dont even have 1$ laying around
:roll: so, what are you planning on painting the sub box with? Some leftover house paint? :lol:
TBSpyder
09-28-2006, 11:07 PM
:roll: so, what are you planning on painting the sub box with? Some leftover house paint? :lol:
No silly. He's going to color it in with a sharpie marker. :roll: :lol:
1stGen7
09-29-2006, 01:16 AM
no 2$ malmart primer
theres nothing fucked up with the box - the other box doesnt fit in the trunk with the one he built. where do u get stubborn from anything i posted?
Nothing wrong with it? The plywood keeps breaking. So you'd just soldier on ahead, doing repair after repair until enough time and money was invested you could have done two the right way? If you had fucked the entire situation up as much from teh get go like this kid, and wont admit that you need to start over, then you are stubborn. If I saw you starting a 'glass box LIke this kid, I'd tell you to start over too. Just because you can salvage something for some half assed results doesnt make it right. If you'd tell me to fuck off, then fine, I'll fuck off and have a wheel well box that is done right.
Notladstyle
09-29-2006, 12:45 PM
Nothing wrong with it? The plywood keeps breaking. So you'd just soldier on ahead, doing repair after repair until enough time and money was invested you could have done two the right way? If you had fucked the entire situation up as much from teh get go like this kid, and wont admit that you need to start over, then you are stubborn. If I saw you starting a 'glass box LIke this kid, I'd tell you to start over too. Just because you can salvage something for some half assed results doesnt make it right. If you'd tell me to fuck off, then fine, I'll fuck off and have a wheel well box that is done right.
OK plywood and the order he did it was totally wrong. But if he had used the correct materials and the correct order and then suddenly the guy throws the box in and it doesnt fit, then I would be like hell no.
marktopia
09-29-2006, 01:11 PM
well since my last box didnt fit my car me and my friend are going to make a fiberglass box. any ideas on how i can fit 2 amps and 4 12's in my trunk??? oh and where should i get all of the materials from? i know mahonies has resin and matting but what kind of matting should i get?
oh and 1stgen7 thats a nice well box u made but like NoTLaDStyle said u should have done the box its self.
OK plywood and the order he did it was totally wrong. But if he had used the correct materials and the correct order and then suddenly the guy throws the box in and it doesnt fit, then I would be like hell no.
That I would agree with. If I worked on a project like this for a while, just to have it not fit, I'd be pissed at myself, and then see what I could do to make it fit without starting a new one. But as far in the hole as this debacle is, I'd just dump it.
Notladstyle
09-29-2006, 02:36 PM
But this thread is so funny, the craftmanship is close to pro but the lack of experience shows in the issues that are popping up.
GradeA_TireFryer
09-29-2006, 04:08 PM
[quote=marktopia;3526890]well since my last box didnt fit my car me and my friend are going to make a fiberglass box. any ideas on how i can fit 2 amps and 4 12's in my trunk???
pay me to build it - it would have cheaper in the long hall and been done!, correctly!.
1stGen7
09-29-2006, 06:19 PM
ok well i got it done..insted of doing them angled i did ehtm flat lers some pics.. still waiting on fiberglass... as you can kinda tell in the pics the whell well box is flush with the bandpass
Notladstyle
09-29-2006, 06:25 PM
ok well i got it done..insted of doing them angled i did ehtm flat lers some pics.. still waiting on fiberglass... as you can kinda tell in the pics the whell well box is flush with the bandpass
While you can, finish the false floor all the way across. it will look better than you carpet/paint it if you go from end to end.
1stGen7
09-29-2006, 06:30 PM
i dono if he wants to do a false floor cause hes got carpet im going to cut for the wheel well box to stick though
Notladstyle
09-29-2006, 06:34 PM
i dono if he wants to do a false floor cause hes got carpet im going to cut for the wheel well box to stick though
Theres no reason to cut the carpet?
1stGen7
09-29-2006, 06:47 PM
Theres no reason to cut the carpet?
im cuting the carpet so you can see the subs..
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