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the727kid
07-18-2006, 08:51 AM
Hmmm...
My JL 300/4 has a stripped allan on the rear speaker outputs and is stuck down. How do I go about fixing this?
TJElite
07-18-2006, 09:25 AM
ez-out to pull the stripped one, and then buy a new one at Lowe's.
Toby
the727kid
07-18-2006, 09:30 AM
How exactly do I pull it out?
BTW I appreciate it ALOT.
the727kid
07-18-2006, 09:34 AM
EDIT: The head of the screw is stripped, not the threads.
TJElite
07-18-2006, 10:12 AM
Like I said, use an ez-out...its a screw extractor tool. Home Depot or Lowe's should have one.
Toby
the727kid
07-18-2006, 12:17 PM
Tried that....didn't do much.
deez92
07-18-2006, 12:58 PM
solder a peice of bent wire to it, and try to unscrew it that way. or if you can get a dremel w/cutoff wheel. try to cut a slit in the screw and then use a flat head.
deez92
07-18-2006, 01:01 PM
n/m i didn't know how small the holes were. can you take the cover off?
the727kid
07-18-2006, 01:13 PM
I probally can, but I would have to unscrew the RCAs.
Notladstyle
07-18-2006, 01:19 PM
Purchase adhesive activator. You can do it without it but the likelyhood you can hold the alen wrench still enough for it to dry naturally is very low.
Push the alen wrench into the stripped hole with a dab of glue on the end - not TOO much or you will glue the threads in.
spray the activator liberally into the hole.
Maintain the exact position for 30 seconds or so.
turn slowly.
I've also had luck using a small flathead extended bit in a dril - once it drills deep enough it will usually start spinning out. You can also drill the stripped hole deeper with a small bit and then use the superglue method.
TJElite
07-18-2006, 02:29 PM
I like the glue idea...have to save that one for later.
The EZ out will work, if you get the right size ez out. Sometimes you can also get one of those flat blade jewlers or eyeglass screwdrivers to wedge across the damaged hex, and get it that way.
From memory, you're a ways away from me, but if you want to make the trip up here, I'll get it out for you.
Toby
the727kid
07-18-2006, 02:32 PM
The problem with that, is the the EZ-out kit made it worse. If you think you can fix it, I will head up there tommorow.
TJElite
07-18-2006, 02:35 PM
Can't say 100% without seeing it, but I'm 99.99% sure I can fix it for you.
Toby
the727kid
07-18-2006, 02:38 PM
Personally, I think it's to the point where the amp will be needed to be taken apart. The EZ-out kit basically rounded out the hex.
How much would you charge?
TJElite
07-18-2006, 04:32 PM
Personally, I think it's to the point where the amp will be needed to be taken apart. The EZ-out kit basically rounded out the hex.
How much would you charge?
I like a challenge.
It will be pricey...somewhere between nothing, and a Chick-fil-a sandwich, no pickle.
Toby
TBSpyder
07-18-2006, 08:28 PM
It will be pricey...somewhere between nothing, and a Chick-fil-a sandwich, no pickle.
Toby
:lol: :lol: :lol:
I like a challenge.
It will be pricey...somewhere between nothing, and a Chick-fil-a sandwich, no pickle.
Toby
damn that pickle, i thought i was the only one that thought it was completely out of place...
Although i have to go off topic by a millimeter... its still related very much so --
I have a few allen/hex screws myself in some of my trunk audio junk that have been....well ... a pain in the ass.
More than a few have already become somewhat threaded/rounded out...
To find even a near replacement... i can only imagine that it would be extremely difficult, especially if its a replacement with a more sensible screw-type (deep-phillips ftw..).
Am i wrong? Do these replacements exist anywhere?
the727kid
07-18-2006, 09:13 PM
How do I get to your shop exactly? I can take either 19 or McMullen.
How do I get to your shop exactly? I can take either 19 or McMullen.
take US19 until you hit hillsborough/tampa road (i believe tampa road, though its the same thing)
go down it towards tampa (i believe south/east) until you reach forest lakes i think, right after this intersection theres another one and you'll want to turn right, go down about a block and to the left theres the shop, hard to miss.
This help?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v671/P057/wdawdw.jpg
take US19 until you hit hillsborough/tampa road (i believe tampa road, though its the same thing)
go down it towards tampa (i believe south/east) until you reach forest lakes i think, right after this intersection theres another one and you'll want to turn right, go down about a block and to the left theres the shop, hard to miss.
This help?
*IMG*
I kinda wish i could rotate the image to make it easier to follow with my shitty directions
the727kid
07-18-2006, 10:40 PM
Kinda....you never realize how much cardinal directions help until you don't have them.
TJElite
07-19-2006, 10:05 AM
damn that pickle, i thought i was the only one that thought it was completely out of place...
Although i have to go off topic by a millimeter... its still related very much so --
I have a few allen/hex screws myself in some of my trunk audio junk that have been....well ... a pain in the ass.
More than a few have already become somewhat threaded/rounded out...
To find even a near replacement... i can only imagine that it would be extremely difficult, especially if its a replacement with a more sensible screw-type (deep-phillips ftw..).
Am i wrong? Do these replacements exist anywhere?
Surprisingly, Lowe's usually has these little set screws. They have a big aisle where you can buy just about any piece of hardware, in qty's of 1 to about 3. I go to the super lowe's down the street from my shop, and I don't think I've ever not found what I was looking for.
As for the hex screws just plain sucking, in my experience, a lot has to do with the hex wrench. Many of the cheap ones, especially the chrome plated ones, and the ones that usually come withe equipment, are slightly over or under sized. This is about the quickest way to round out a hex. The other problem comes when people don't have a good selection of hex wrenches, and they find one that 'fits' and use it. Again, usually slightly over or under sized. If you plan on loosening and tightening these more than a couple of times, Invest in a good, name brand, non-plated (the plating can be the cause of the over / under size, especially when it flakes off) set of hex keys, both metric and standard. And make sure when you do pick one, that it fits tightly in the hex head.
As for changing to another type of screw, I think it would be difficult to find anything other than a headless set screw to fit in most of these areas.
Toby
TJElite
07-19-2006, 10:07 AM
Kinda....you never realize how much cardinal directions help until you don't have them.
19 or mcmullen to tampa road. Right (east) on Tampa road. about 5 miles from 19, or 3 from mcmullen, you'll see a walmart on your left. The first traffic light past the walmart is Pine ave. Turn right on pine, and I'm the 3rd building on the right.
Just before the Walmart, you'll see a Chick-fil-a, on your right.
Toby
TJElite
07-19-2006, 10:08 AM
:lol: :lol: :lol:
I'm just waiting for Dalton to under cut my price...He'll probably do it for a waffle fry, or a sugar packet...
Toby
TBSpyder
07-19-2006, 10:34 AM
I'm just waiting for Dalton to under cut my price...He'll probably do it for a waffle fry, or a sugar packet...
Toby
LMAO!! :lol: We all know it's coming...
As for changing to another type of screw, I think it would be difficult to find anything other than a headless set screw to fit in most of these areas.
Toby
I have Jl amps, and I've thought about switching.. best I could figure would be back out the old stripped one, dremel in a flathead slot.
Or try to find a threaded rod that will fit in, and then you can have whatever length you want.
the727kid
07-19-2006, 12:03 PM
Imma be heading up there in 10-20 minutes.
Notladstyle
07-19-2006, 02:56 PM
I'm just waiting for Dalton to under cut my price...He'll probably do it for a waffle fry, or a sugar packet...
Toby
LMFAO, I cant even think of something witty to come bakc with.
djgizmo
07-19-2006, 03:58 PM
Is it only me or does it seem crazy to want to change out the hex screws? I mean when you have CORRECT tools, they rarely strip, vs a Phllips / Flat head screw.
I have Jl amps, and I've thought about switching.. best I could figure would be back out the old stripped one, dremel in a flathead slot.
Or try to find a threaded rod that will fit in, and then you can have whatever length you want.
TBSpyder
07-19-2006, 09:37 PM
Is it only me or does it seem crazy to want to change out the hex screws? I mean when you have CORRECT tools, they rarely strip, vs a Phllips / Flat head screw.
Correct tools don't mean everything, those allen head screws strip extremely easily....I can't even keep track of how many I've personally come across while using the right size allen key. A flat head would actually probably be the most durable. One trick a fellow installer taught me a long time ago was to always use a flat head driver rather than a phillips (when applicable) while tightening amp or crossover terminals.
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