Bass System Question

[eldragonchulo]

I wanna get a powerful bass system in my car. I have a 1998 BMW 328is coupe. I just want to put one sub in the car, either 12" or 10" with one strong amp. I already have 4 eminence cellenium 8" (125 rms each), 4 eminence alpha 6" ( 100 rms each), 2 APT bullet tweeters, and 2 power acoustic horn tweeters (150 rms each). They are all getting 100 rms per speaker, yeah it's loud as fuck. What I was thinking of using for bass was a Audiobahn Immortal 12" inch (2,000 rms, quad 2 ohm, and it hits 95dB) with a Hifonics BXi 2006D (2,000 rms), and a custom box to meet the specifications that the sub needs. I will upgrade my alternator before I do install the sub. Do you guys think this is a good setup or is there something better?

[TBSpyder]

Eminence, Audiobahn, bullet, and horn tweeters? Ghetto? No offense, but I was an installer for several years and I've seen you eminence/horn tweeter people time and time again and one thing I've learned is that ya'll care about nothing but being "loud" (in another thread in here, I think Toby quoted it as "sidewalk music"). I also learned that the majority of yall are dead set on the equipment and think it's the end all. So I won't bother trying to argue, but personally, I would do a complete overhaul.







P.S. Welcome to the Audio Forum. ;)

[VolvoBoiClw]

do a diff setup

[GradeA_TireFryer]

[QUOTE=TBSpyder]Eminence, Audiobahn, bullet, and horn tweeters? Ghetto? No offense, but I was an installer for several years and I've seen you eminence/horn tweeter people time and time again and one thing I've learned is that ya'll care about nothing but being "loud" (in another thread in here, I think Toby quoted it as "sidewalk music"). I also learned that the majority of yall are dead set on the equipment and think it's the end all. So I won't bother trying to argue, but personally, I would do a complete overhaul.


i think that is the harshest thing i have ever seen you say!! lol - i agree through

[stockaccord]

been through the eminence phase. do something different. yea you can get pretty loud without much money but, it sounds like shit.

[KartRex]

Do a full overhual i agree with the others nothing personal.

[mbanks21]

Yeah yall got those eminence dimes? Check out my grill


Sir, please get the $*!@ out of my store and go to the fleamarket

[weeper]

Mbquarts With Some Mac Amps Maybe A Mmatts Juggs For Some Hump Just Some Ghetto Ideas Lol

[Notladstyle]

Yeah yall got those eminence dimes? Check out my grill


Sir, please get the $*!@ out of my store and go to the fleamarket

Mbquarts With Some Mac Amps Maybe A Mmatts Juggs For Some Hump Just Some Ghetto Ideas Lol


http://i3.tinypic.com/15yyk9z.jpg

[eldragonchulo]

So if I do a complete overhaul what u recommend.

[the727kid]

LOL @ this. Yea those aren't the best.

Nobody can reccomend you a realistic overhaul without giving us a price range first.

[TBSpyder]

i think that is the harshest thing i have ever seen you say!! lol - i agree through


Reality hurts sometimes. ;)

[TBSpyder]

So if I do a complete overhaul what u recommend.

A 2 or 3 way component system up front, some full range speakers in the rear, all running off a 4 channel amp. 12" sub in the trunk, ported through the ski hole, running off a mono block class D amp. Do you already have an aftermarket deck?

[the727kid]

You couldn't of put that any more obvious lol.

[eldragonchulo]

Yeah a Kenwood Excelon KDC-X679.

[eldragonchulo]

The price range from 2000 to 2500.

[the727kid]

That's a prety good range. You would be suprised how quick you can put money into a car though. I've had my new one for a month almost and have close to 4,000 in it, and it's nothing special really besides 5 screens and top line audio products.

[P057]

have close to 4,000 in it, and it's nothing special really besides 5 screens and top line audio products.


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:jerkoff:

[Notladstyle]

:blahblah:



:jerkoff:

+10239213901293128848832429849238489234 ^ 10000

[the727kid]

Lol...I didn't mean it like that. It's just I don't see (well I do) where I spent 4,000 and I would expect more for 4,000.

[P057]

and it's nothing special really besides 5 screens and top line audio products.

Nope, i'm pretty sure you meant it exactly like that :roll:

[the727kid]

I just understood that one smiley so here ya go:

$675 - JL 1000/1
$300 - 9" Visor Monitors
$800 - Pioneer AVH-5700
$200 - Infinity Kappa Perfect 5.1s
$100 - Infinity Kappa 693
$300 - JL 300/4
$250 - Viper VX791
$250 - Farenhiet 7" Headrest Monitors
$320 - Flowmaster Exhaust
$400 - Upper and Lower Billet Grills
$200 - H.I.D. Conversion Kit
$150 - Dynamat Extreme Bulk Pack
$600 - Installation/Labor Fees.

= $4545

I know at least one of you willask about the 1000/1.....it's sitting in my room waiting for a W7 in a few weeks. I just ordered my Kinetik HC1400 battery today (so add $235 if you like to that list lol) and having the box built next week too.

[the727kid]

Nope, i'm pretty sure you meant it exactly like that :roll:

When I said that, I meant like you would expect some custom install or something for $4000+. Mine just looks pretty stock cept for the screens.

[Notladstyle]

I just understood that one smiley so here ya go:

$675 - JL 1000/1
$300 - 9" Visor Monitors
$800 - Pioneer AVH-5700
$200 - Infinity Kappa Perfect 5.1s
$100 - Infinity Kappa 693
$300 - JL 300/4
$250 - Viper VX791
$250 - Farenhiet 7" Headrest Monitors
$320 - Flowmaster Exhaust
$400 - Upper and Lower Billet Grills
$200 - H.I.D. Conversion Kit
$150 - Dynamat Extreme Bulk Pack
$600 - Installation/Labor Fees.

= $4545

I know at least one of you willask about the 1000/1.....it's sitting in my room waiting for a W7 in a few weeks. I just ordered my Kinetik HC1400 battery today (so add $235 if you like to that list lol) and having the box built next week too.

pics or BAN

[the727kid]

O geez, what you want pictures of?

http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i269/the727kid/IMG_0498.jpg
http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i269/the727kid/IMG_0497.jpg
http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i269/the727kid/IMG_0492.jpg
http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i269/the727kid/IMG_0491.jpg

[the727kid]

http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i269/the727kid/IMG_0490.jpg
http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i269/the727kid/IMG_0485.jpg
http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i269/the727kid/th_MVI_4438.jpg (http://s74.photobucket.com/albums/i269/the727kid/?action=view&current=MVI_4438.flv)
http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i269/the727kid/IMAGE_00039.jpg
http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i269/the727kid/IMAGE_00040.jpg

Woudl you like pictures of the boxes for the speakers too?

[the727kid]

BTW b4 any of ya'll get on my ass for the visors...they are getting fixed and having a new suede headliner put in very soon.

[the727kid]

if ya'll still doubt me, ask KArtREx....I went to school with him.

[Notladstyle]

You escaped BAN... but wheres te pics of da rear monitors, why are your front monitors jacked up, wheres the other JL amp, the flowmasters and finally,


Why did you pay $600 for that horrible installation?

[P057]

You escaped BAN... but wheres te pics of da rear monitors, why are your front monitors jacked up, wheres the other JL amp, the flowmasters and finally,


Why did you pay $600 for that horrible installation?




because if he knew you could do it for 1/4th the price + 2x better installation he wouldnt have

[Notladstyle]

because if he knew you could do it for 1/4th the price + 2x better installation he wouldnt have

ehh maybe half the price.

[KartRex]

:nerd: Omg so i started reading this post and it got really off topic..... The eldo is actually really nice has a ways to come before the instal is compelet and yes.... probly could have made some better decision on some of the stuff... but come on yall of us have made some pretty fucked up decision before... So kick the flame :)

[the727kid]

You escaped BAN... but wheres te pics of da rear monitors, why are your front monitors jacked up, wheres the other JL amp, the flowmasters and finally,




Why did you pay $600 for that horrible installation?






Rear Monitors aren't in yet, hence the picture of them in my trunk. And showed pictures of the rest. I'm just curious what's horrible about it? I told him to run cheap wires, mount the amp real simple and easy to move, and the visor tvs he couldn't much with unless fucking with my headliner and leaving a hole there. And I did say I'm getting them fixed soon with new suede. Read all before posting.

I'm glad I shut ya'll up and still got something negative to say....*smh*...haters...

[the727kid]

BTW $600 included, install of HU, all speakers, alarm w/remote start, install of amp, wiring, and all four tvs. I don't have the rear two in yet, I haven't had time to drop my car off for a day.

If you can do all that for $300, good for you, but your making like no money. That was the cheapest price around I could find.

[Notladstyle]

Rear Monitors aren't in yet, hence the picture of them in my trunk. And showed pictures of the rest. I'm just curious what's horrible about it? I told him to run cheap wires, mount the amp real simple and easy to move, and the visor tvs he couldn't much with unless fucking with my headliner and leaving a hole there. And I did say I'm getting them fixed soon with new suede. Read all before posting.

I'm glad I shut ya'll up and still got something negative to say....*smh*...haters...

No srry, Im gonna hate more now that I've seen the install - the monitors should have been mounted to new brackets slid under the headliner further out to allow them to close in the stock positions and the stock holes should be covered with plastic trim covers.

The amp isnt mounted at all, I bet the wire is wedged into the battery and the wire isnt loomed at all.

I'll reserve any props you might receive until after I've seen your subs and/or their numbers.


As for the $600 labor, what shop did you go to that did all that for 600? Name & address plz.

[the727kid]

Audio Source on 34th St. and 48th Ave. S. (Maybe 47, or 49?).

And as for the visors..why do all that? He called me and told me they wouldn't fit, so I said just put them in there for now, I'm getting a new headliner soon anyways.

The amp is mounted....and wires are loomed ;).

Lol...reserve my props? If you don't give any now, you most likely won't ever until my car is 100% finished, and they way you seem, you will probally find the most minute details to exploit. It's all good though, I had all this before I even turned 17, I don't know any one else my age doing shyt like me.

[the727kid]

I'll be keeping ya'll updated, you can help me find what's wrong ;)

[P057]

Lol...reserve my props? If you don't give any now, you most likely won't ever until my car is 100% finished, and they way you seem, you will probally find the most minute details to exploit. It's all good though, I had all this before I even turned 17, I don't know any one else my age doing shyt like me.

oo arent you special; get off your high horse.

some of us ("your age") arent rich and have to have jobs to support our families rather than drop 4 grand into a shitty install.

btw props are given when your visors arent hanging off one end, the amp sliding around in the trunk and your claim of rear seat mounted monitors are actually installed instead of rolling around in your trunk.


Why the fuck do you need five monitors?


do you REALLY need to overcompensate for something?

[TJElite]

oo arent you special; get off your high horse.

some of us ("your age") arent rich and have to have jobs to support our families rather than drop 4 grand into a shitty install.

btw props are given when your visors arent hanging off one end, the amp sliding around in the trunk and your claim of rear seat mounted monitors are actually installed instead of rolling around in your trunk.


Why the fuck do you need five monitors?


do you REALLY need to overcompensate for something?


Wow...somebody's cranky...

Toby

[Notladstyle]

oo arent you special; get off your high horse.

some of us ("your age") arent rich and have to have jobs to support our families rather than drop 4 grand into a shitty install.

btw props are given when your visors arent hanging off one end, the amp sliding around in the trunk and your claim of rear seat mounted monitors are actually installed instead of rolling around in your trunk.


Why the fuck do you need five monitors?


do you REALLY need to overcompensate for something?

lmfao, I think I peed a little in my pants, brb.

727kid, You are probably right about the props through, I respect quality and appearance - neither of which I can see so far. Your sub amp isnt even pictured(or in the car) the wires to your 4 channel arent loomed or bound in any way and I can only imagine what shortcuts were taken under the carpet where we cant see.

I don't start TR drama on a regular basis, but it seems like you brag a lot for a guy with sagging LCDs...

Theres will be no more heat coming from me till the next time you post something similar to planning to put 4 kicker L7s in ur trunk and dont show up at the audio meet...


BTW I did a caddy just like yours today, I had to stop and check the visors for LCDs before I did the install ;)

[the727kid]

Fuck some L7s....Kicker...:\

I am doing W7s, just one 12 for now, which will be coming in a few weeks. And I took a picture of the 1000/1 and posted it up.

Bragging? I wasn't bragging, I was saying how quick 4,000 can go into a car and not seem like that much to the car. You were the one calling me out on the 4,000. I won't brag on something un-finished, nor would I really boast anyways. Get your mind right...
And ya'll called me out, so I showed the pictures. Is the car finished?...no, that's why I haven't posted pics until this. Ya'll call me out on a unfinished car, then get on me about the shyt. I will come out to the meet as soon as the sub is in, ya'll can pick up little details and hate on me then, sound good? And I don't need five monitors but I'll do it because I can.....deal with it hater. Actually they are so you can watch some TV when your behind me.

BTW where is ya'll's cars?

And I ain't rich, I work my ass off, half the time in sun during the day. My work enviroment is probally harsher than ya'lls. I live in Pinellas PArk, I am far from rich. I work my ass off and earn my shyt.

[TIM TIM TIM]

Fuck some L7s....Kicker...:\

I am doing W7s, just one 12 for now, which will be coming in a few weeks. And I took a picture of the 1000/1 and posted it up.

Bragging? I wasn't bragging, I was saying how quick 4,000 can go into a car and not seem like that much to the car. You were the one calling me out on the 4,000. I won't brag on something un-finished, nor would I really boast anyways. Get your mind right...
And ya'll called me out, so I showed the pictures. Is the car finished?...no, that's why I haven't posted pics until this. Ya'll call me out on a unfinished car, then get on me about the shyt. I will come out to the meet as soon as the sub is in, ya'll can pick up little details and hate on me then, sound good? And I don't need five monitors but I'll do it because I can.....deal with it hater. Actually they are so you can watch some TV when your behind me.

BTW where is ya'll's cars?

And I ain't rich, I work my ass off, half the time in sun during the day. My work enviroment is probally harsher than ya'lls. I live in Pinellas PArk, I am far from rich. I work my ass off and earn my shyt.

i got my hater blockers on, i got my hater blockers on. nigga step up out my way cuz your all in my zone..
this goes out to the niggas that be hattin on me, claiming to be friends but they really enemys, see me in the club wanna give me daps and hugs, like nigga whats up, playa whhhaatttt????


(this is quoting a song, i mnot racist :) )

[TIM TIM TIM]

btw we work for our stuff too, just most of us dont put all kinds of money into our cadi while living in pinellas park.. a car and car audio are both depreciating things.. which means you spend 100 on somthing, you get 50 out of it (if your lucky). some of us buy stuff that will, in the end, make us money.

[the727kid]

No doubt, the phrase it takes money to make money goes there. I don't spend every dollar I make into my car. I am saving for a house too. Remember I am only 17, not too much I can do to get my returns. I have a life policy that I put into every month, that will yield a few hundred thousand when I'm in my 40s.

Don't think I'm just some kid that spends every dime I have on my car. If I did, this car would probally be close to finished.

BTW good lookin on the song LOL.

[TIM TIM TIM]

really i dont care what you do to your car, and i usually try not to make fun of peoples stuff to much, because nobody is perfect... but i really do not like those visors..:lol:

I am in the same boat, 19 saving for a house so i just put some of my cash into the car, not to much.. 5k on a car and 2k on the system... calling it quits about now.

[TBSpyder]

Play nice children. The guy's car/system is obviously a work in progress, yet still is what I would bet to be nicer than 70% of the cars on here. I'm sure if everyone posted up pics of their car we could all knit pick every little detail as well. Back on topic, future posts better be recomendations on what the original poster should do/buy.

[Notladstyle]

Fuck some L7s....Kicker...:\

I am doing W7s, just one 12 for now, which will be coming in a few weeks. And I took a picture of the 1000/1 and posted it up.

Bragging? I wasn't bragging, I was saying how quick 4,000 can go into a car and not seem like that much to the car. You were the one calling me out on the 4,000. I won't brag on something un-finished, nor would I really boast anyways. Get your mind right...
And ya'll called me out, so I showed the pictures. Is the car finished?...no, that's why I haven't posted pics until this. Ya'll call me out on a unfinished car, then get on me about the shyt. I will come out to the meet as soon as the sub is in, ya'll can pick up little details and hate on me then, sound good? And I don't need five monitors but I'll do it because I can.....deal with it hater. Actually they are so you can watch some TV when your behind me.

BTW where is ya'll's cars?

And I ain't rich, I work my ass off, half the time in sun during the day. My work enviroment is probally harsher than ya'lls. I live in Pinellas PArk, I am far from rich. I work my ass off and earn my shyt.

LMFAOOOOOO and the 17? pshhhh try 12


Oh and umm on topic, you need to throw a 12" alpine type R in there on a alpine mrd301 amp and you will have all the knock you need for less than 250.

[r0iand]

daaaamn sum haters on this one, ouch i feel for u man, looks clean though :)

[Kaise7en]

Nah, He should get a good pioneer like the p980mp, go with the kicker rs series components in the front, maybe ks series in the rear. use the zx 850.4 for the speakers and either stick with complete kicker and use a 12" cvx, or go with something different like dropping in a jl 12w6 in a high output box. I have this in a civic hatch with just a 500/1 amp on it and it is LOUD! But please go with quality, if I have to put in one more "I want people to hear me for 2 blocks with my em 6's in the doors, rear deck, front console and a blow through....... At the shop I work at this is the most normal install we do. But that is what they all seem to want.......Kai

[Kaise7en]

Oh and whenever there is an audio meet I'd love to come on out, It's great to meet other people who are into this as much as me...Kai

[TIM TIM TIM]

there is one every month and they usually make post's reminding. i hope to attend the next lol.

[TBSpyder]

Oh and whenever there is an audio meet I'd love to come on out, It's great to meet other people who are into this as much as me...Kai


You must have missed the first thread in this forum, it's even stickied. Check it out. :thumbup:

[djgizmo]

kid (as your board name shows even) You are just that. A kid. You were bragging. (as all kids like to do) A person with a nice setup doesn't need to say how much he/she spent or what went into it. Spending a lot of money on a system does not mean you are / aren't pimp. It shows that you use a lot of money thats it.

Don't let people call you out when you're not ready to be called out (Its the TR AHQ way)

As for the install, its incomplete. I personally wouldn't have my amp unmounted the way it looks like currently as bad things happen to amps that move around a lot. Also, all the wires shown do not look like they are tied down, show lacks of quality install personally. In one pic, it looks like your installer is using a line level to RCA converter, and that too does not look like it is mounted.





Bragging? I wasn't bragging, I was saying how quick 4,000 can go into a car and not seem like that much to the car.

[mobeycat]

Hey you want a realll system...drop a line and we'll talk, got some real good stuff up for grabs that will make your ears bleeed!

[danaintampa]

This car audio fourm takes me back to my 1st year in highschool. I have long since tried to avoid idiots in the car audio world, I couldn't take it anymore. There are so many know it alls that don't know crap. Maybe if you some of you guys grew up, the people who do know what the hell they are talking about would find the time to actualy come in here and give answers to the people who are humble enough to ask a question. Unlike you they didn't know everything the day they were born.

My shit would probably blow most of your know it all asses out of the water in every way. Performance, budget, install. And I did mine 100% on my own. I was able to do this because I asked alot of "dumb" questions for a long time. I could eventually spot a know it all at 100 yards. Now I avoid them, because no matter what you have, do or say, they will have something stupid to say. I got to the point of buying everything online because I didn't want to deal with a 19 year old salesman telling me what I needed.

My system looks, and sound exactly how I expected and wanted it to. I made it for me and noone else. If you don't like it, that's great, because you can't have it.
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[danaintampa]

kid (as your board name shows even) You are just that. A kid. You were bragging. (as all kids like to do) A person with a nice setup doesn't need to say how much he/she spent or what went into it. Spending a lot of money on a system does not mean you are / aren't pimp. It shows that you use a lot of money thats it.

Don't let people call you out when you're not ready to be called out (Its the TR AHQ way)

As for the install, its incomplete. I personally wouldn't have my amp unmounted the way it looks like currently as bad things happen to amps that move around a lot. Also, all the wires shown do not look like they are tied down, show lacks of quality install personally. In one pic, it looks like your installer is using a line level to RCA converter, and that too does not look like it is mounted.
oh yeah, +1

[Notladstyle]

Hell yeah man, because the Internets always gives us accurate info.

[danaintampa]

Hell yeah man, because the Internets always gives us accurate info.
?? What was that in response to?

[P057]

?? What was that in response to?

Nice setup dude, i like the rear =D.

You go for quality or spl?

[danaintampa]

Nice setup dude, i like the rear =D.

You go for quality or spl?
Thanks, went for quality, but it's pretty loud too.

I was going for something that sounded good, looked different, was as light as it could be with 4 12's, and something that was easily removable for going to the track.

[P057]

Thanks, went for quality, but it's pretty loud too.

I was going for something that sounded good, looked different, was as light as it could be with 4 12's, and something that was easily removable for going to the track.

removable? nice.

Doesnt rattle?

[danaintampa]

the fiberglass? No, it's thick, if you kicked it it would hurt your foot.