Brooksville June 11th

[mikeyees13]

Who is all going? I know I recognized Jeremy and Brian on the Entry list

Is Brooksville Newb-friendly like Zephryhills?
I registered online, Do we pay cash at the event sign in? ($25)

Thanks, looking forward to seeing you guys out there!

[w0rd]

Is Brooksville Newb-friendly like Zephryhills?
yes

I registered online, Do we pay cash at the event sign in? ($25)
yes, they usually collect it at the gate.

Make sure that if you bring any friends that they get on the list.

[Muddy]

They keep everyone that has ever entered on the list. :lol: I will be out of town, so I won't be there. I will remove myself from the list so there is no confusion. :)

BMWCCA puts on great events, though. I wish I could be there. :D

[REY]

where is there more information about this???.... The only thing i can find scheduled for June 11th is in SPC, not Brooksville

[ZenkiS14_Drifter]

im so there...need the seat time. Not looking forward to the craters that are forming though.

[mikeyees13]

where is there more information about this???.... The only thing i can find scheduled for June 11th is in SPC, not Brooksville

www.myautoevents.com

search for FSC 5th Autocross



im so there...need the seat time. Not looking forward to the craters that are forming though.
Craters? what do you mean? Like potholes?

[REY]

truuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuue

[jabtay]

I think I am going to show up...is it a short track, or is there some place to build up some speed?

[URY914]

I've been about a half dozen times. There is a motorcycle school that uses a area right in the middle of the runway. That have the area painted so we can't have any turns in thier space. This makes for some long runs. We had a stright one time that must have been 1/8 mile long.:-o I must have been doing 90 mph at the end of it.It is longer that Z-hills but just as stinkin' HOT.

Paul

[jabtay]

I've been about a half dozen times. There is a motorcycle school that uses a area right in the middle of the runway. That have the area painted so we can't have any turns in thier space. This makes for some long runs. We had a stright one time that must have been 1/8 mile long.:-o I must have been doing 90 mph at the end of it.It is longer that Z-hills but just as stinkin' HOT.

Paul
Good thats what I like to hear...the Cobra likes to stretch its legs :)

[ZenkiS14_Drifter]

Craters? what do you mean? Like potholes?


yes...there are some forming. Most arent actaully as bad as they look though,.

[bam2002]

Hey every one.

Ok here is your chance to give me some input. For the last 2 events we have shortened the course to about .7 of a mile. In the past we were 1 to 1.2 miles. However at a mile or more we only can get in 6 runs. At .7 we can get in 8 runs. I have been told that the more runs is better, since its more time to fix/ adjust ones driving skills.

Thoughts??



Also I try to keep the course at 55 sec to a minute for the fastest runs. So yes there are cars getting into 3rd gear. This event will probably have some intense boxes to test braking , most likely 2 boxes on the course. I also want to do the curved slalom again since it was different and is as close as you can get to passing a car on the track with Cones.



Since I know there will be a cobra and some v 8 cars out this time I will open up the course a bit.





B

[Spin Out]

More runs = better.

Long straits = boring.

Technical challenge = Fun


I have a degree in Applied Mathematics.
(Who'd a thunk it.)

[w0rd]

I prefer the longer courses, but I would be happy either way. The thing I don't like are the tight finish sections that normally occur on PCA/BMW events. I think there are better ways to create a safe finish. I cringe everytime I hear someone try to stuff it into first gear to get through the finish section.

[mikeyees13]

I cringe everytime I hear someone try to stuff it into first gear to get through the finish section.


Im not gonna lie, it crossed my mind last weekend.

[ZenkiS14_Drifter]

ive done it before...didnt work out to well for me. I no longer have that tranny. I like coarses wiht some technical challenge to them that has a few fast spots but doesnt allow those damn 88-91 civic si's to whip my ass.

[jblaine]

55sec for fast runs is a good sized course. I'm all for any layout that gets me 7-8 runs at 45sec+ each.

Carrying speed properly into the start of a long straight and threshold braking at the end of it are just as technically challenging as diddling your wheel back and forth.

[bam2002]

We run the box over by the dumpster on the way back. Not at the end, the Insurance companies have some pretty strict rules on speed exiting the course. Plus there is the fact that we cant have cars coming back fast towards the timing tent ( people).

Im planning on a figure 8 type turn around. So the end should be quick. Or the first 40% of the way back will be quick.

I really cant plan out a detail course, because I have to put cones in places where the cement is not falling apart. So its a bit Ad hoc.


B

[skippy]

the last auto-x you had up there was great, I loved the layout and the curved slolams, keep it up...I think it was a fast course.

[mofugga]

I think I am going to show up...is it a short track, or is there some place to build up some speed?
if you got skills there's always the chance to get some speed. but yeah, those finishes after going 80mph to a super tight section is brutal, maybe keep the back section not as fast as the front or slow 'em down farther from the finish. i don't know, but i do know i plan on being at this event:D

[Spin Out]

Hi BAM, You do an excellent job setting up the courses, keep it up.
We all understand that there are a lot of limitations.
(Pot holes, dumpsters, timing equipment, and insurance).

ZENKIS14 DRIFTER - Stop worring about the Civics. When you are at Brooksville, the Honda that does the Ass Kicking is an S-2000.
(But there this is one civic that I'm afraid of.)

I know people like to go fast, but high speeds can be dangerous.
Didn't I see a Black EVO fly off the course recently. Way off the course.
He told me (as he was shoveling off the dirt) that he was coming up on 100 mph when he lost it.
If I want a long straight shot, I can go to a drag strip.

[redwagon88]

can any one come watch this i live in springhill and this is the first i have heard about this

[Muddy]

I really like the fast sections of the March and April events. What I don't like is lots of hard braking. My brakes overheated at the March event. I think it would be great to make the courses FAST on the way out, then medium to slow (and easier on the brakes) on the way back.

[ZenkiS14_Drifter]

ZENKIS14 DRIFTER - Stop worring about the Civics. When you are at Brooksville, the Honda that does the Ass Kicking is an S-2000.
(But there this is one civic that I'm afraid of.)




I know its not a big deal at PCA/BMW event cuz all others are in the same class. Its really SCCA where i need to beat them. The National Level STS Civics will run faster times than the slower SM Cars and most DSP cars. So that gives me a nice goal to work at

[LynxZ3r0]

I liked the last course even though it was VERY anti-high torque. I couldn't do ANYTHING but idle through the first set of offset slaloms w/o going sideways.

It was designed to be short but ended up super long because of the technicalities of it, which is good. Would have been perfect if you could have shaved about 10 seconds off it, so we'd be running just under a minute on avg.

The April event was *SUPER* fast.. much more suited to high torque vehicles.. I was hitting a little over 110 on the longest straight if I held out braking until the VERY last second...

A little bit of a mix would be better.. maybe lengthen out the curved slalom and let us get a little bit more speed through there? Dunno.. certainly FAR from an expert.. but that was the one spot where I found myself having to slam on the brakes rather than actually going smoothly through.

[chi town brat]

Curved solomns YAY!

can any one come watch this i live in springhill and this is the first i have heard about this

Spectators also need to sign up online at www.myautoevents.com

**please note in the comment box for Rafael that you are only there to spectate so that registration has a correct count on the number of cars/drivers.

[mofugga]

yo zenki, at the end of the day the civic driver is still driving a civic if that's any consolation :lol:

[bam2002]

Well I will admit that since I run a lower HP car and there are quite a few 4 cyl cars we do try to keep it below 80.. And the top speed limit has some leeway , due to the rules at the site.



Thanks for the complements on the past courses. I am always open for suggestions and feedback. This is one of the reasons I am posting on this site.

Usually a faster course does have some hard breaking areas due to need to turn around at the end of the runway.



I am going to do another curved slalom, this time it will be at the cross over area and run all the way across the course, from right side to left. ( looking from the starting gate ) Then the turn around with an exit gate and the driver gets to pick their line to get back to the left side of the track. So it will be a figure 8 type lay out

.

We usually do the off set slalom at the beginning to keep it slow and allow the driver to heat up the tires. That much turning is one of the best way to get the tires up to Temp.



The issues I have is I never know how many people are really going to show up. Once we get a pre paid registration going then I can better plan the track size. Since I will know how many people will be there Hence how many stations I can have out on the course. We just have to make sure there are enough people to work the course. Plus there have been problems with some drivers leaving after their 2nd run and then I am short workers for the last group.



Ill have to find some sort of Cad program so I can start posting the course before the day of the event.



B

[jabtay]

I have "some sort of Cad program" on my laptop :)

[mikeyees13]

Id be scared to get into 3rd...



maybe Im just a wuss

[DSMboost97]

Hi. i live in the Brooksville/Spring Hill area and i have never known there is any kind of Auto X event in the area. I would really like to come watch, ive never been to anything like this and im very curious to see what goes on. Where is it held, What time, and what day? Is there any fees for spectating? Thanks for any help.

[mofugga]

Id be scared to get into 3rd...



maybe Im just a wuss
at the bmw events i grab 4th :lol:

[URY914]

One thing that I would like to see changed is the tech proceedure. I think that having to line up the cars for tech wastes a lot of time. I was a member of a club in South Florida (Equip Rapide) several years ago and we would use several tech guys which would GO TO THE CARS parked in the paddock area. They would walk around with clip boards, tire gages and t-wrenches and tech the car where it is parked. They can have a guy tech'd within minutes of him parking his car. It just saves the time it takes to line up, stand in the tech line and than go park again.

I'm going to be the event chairman at the Oct. PCA event and we're going to try this. Change is good.

[mikeyees13]

Hi. i live in the Brooksville/Spring Hill area and i have never known there is any kind of Auto X event in the area. I would really like to come watch, ive never been to anything like this and im very curious to see what goes on. Where is it held, What time, and what day? Is there any fees for spectating? Thanks for any help.




Spectators also need to sign up online at www.myautoevents.com

**please note in the comment box for Rafael that you are only there to spectate so that registration has a correct count on the number of cars/drivers.

I dont think there are any fees for watching/hanging out. At the website, search for FSC 5th Autocross, June 11th

[bam2002]

there is No fee for watching. We just need the names of the visitors for the access list.Sign up at my auto events with a note that you are a spectator. ( I dont know if this will take away from the 50 head count we allow to register to drive , If so ) Just Send the names to AutoX @ 24hr.us

[nunyo]

at the bmw events i grab 4th :lol:

Do you even autocross anymore? I haven't seen you at an event in about 9 months.

[mofugga]

Do you even autocross anymore? I haven't seen you at an event in about 9 months.
yeah, that was about 6 months ago :roll:

[D-Roll]

I plan on being there but won't be running yet.

[Muddy]

Usually a faster course does have some hard breaking areas due to need to turn around at the end of the runway.

I have no problem with the braking before the turn around. The problem with some of the other courses, such as the March course, is on the way back. I redlined 3rd (65 mph) and braked hard, three times. Then I redline 4th (80 mph), braked hard, and downshift to 2nd. One or two hard braking zones are okay, IMO, but I had to brake hard 4 times on the way back. At that event, Bob (silver miata on hoosiers) didn't even take his last run because his brakes were overheating. I took my 5th run and overheated my brakes.

I'm not complaining, though! :P

[JBlaze]

I will be there for my first AutoX in my own car. I have done the Mazda events the last two years and had alot of fun.

[jaball77]

We run the box over by the dumpster on the way back. Not at the end, the Insurance companies have some pretty strict rules on speed exiting the course. Plus there is the fact that we cant have cars coming back fast towards the timing tent ( people).

The easy way around this is to do what the CFR designers do and move the finish 200 ft up the course away from the tent. Sure, you give up 200 ft of course on the way back, but it sure as hell beats arm wrestling your car through a horrible short/wide offset like at Z-Hills... Gives the drivers plenty of room to shut it down, and keeps the finish fun.

It's so frustrating to work your way through a nice 2nd gear course then come to a STOP before the lights because the course designers want to put the finish right next to the T&S tent. :mad:

[ZenkiS14_Drifter]

i really like the end of the last PCA Coarse. It was a really fast lane change. AI was pleansantly suprised by it.

[jabtay]

I wont be able to attend, how do I get my name off the list?

[w0rd]

Login to www.myautoevents.com
Go to the entry list.
Click view/edit link entry under your name.
Click delete/cancel entry button.

[djben]

I signed up, this will be my first autox event... Just got a new car and I look forward to tossing it around a bit and having fun learning to really drive it (I will shamelessly admit i am a noob :P ).

[mofugga]

I signed up, this will be my first autox event... Just got a new car and I look forward to tossing it around a bit and having fun learning to really drive it (I will shamelessly admit i am a noob :P ).
if you need any help learning how to drive it lemme know :D

[WhiteGhost2.5]

I cannot wait till sunday... I need to run.

[D-Roll]

Damn I wish I could run, but I'll be there to learn some more for my first event.

[Spin Out]

Dying to see how my new tires work out. (Falken 615s)
I ran them at Z-hills, but that gave me almost no idea of how much traction I have. (I'm sure people can relate to the slip sliding fun of that runway.)
Looking forward to the grip of Brooksville.

I just got back from the All Ford Nationals in PA.
(Don't hate me for loving American Steel)
So I've been driving a big Old Truck with a swinging load for the Last week,
I wasn't sure I would remember how to drive the Miata.

[chi town brat]

I just got back from the All Ford Nationals in PA.
(Don't hate me for loving American Steel)
So I've been driving a big Old Truck with a swinging load for the Last week,
I wasn't sure I would remember how to drive the Miata.

Okay Truck Boi :lmao:

[MrSmith]

Registered... first event with the WRX. Should be fun throwing it around on the all seasons :thumbup:

[D-Roll]

Registered... first event with the WRX. Should be fun throwing it around on the all seasons :thumbup:

You should do good with AWD though. There was a WRX in Sebring with all seasons on it.

[mofugga]

Registered... first event with the WRX. Should be fun throwing it around on the all seasons :thumbup:
gotta love re92's :lol:

[MrSmith]

Yeah like a fat girl with herpes :lol:

Any of the tampa folk want to meet in the morning and cruise up together?

[mikeyees13]

Yeah like a fat girl with herpes :lol:

Any of the tampa folk want to meet in the morning and cruise up together?

We will have 3 or 4 cars coming out of USF/Temple Terrace if you want to roll out together. We will prorbably get on I75 from Fletcher/Fowler. Where are you coming from?

[WhiteGhost2.5]

can't wait, see ya'll out there tomorrow bright and early

[mikeyees13]

So... what happens if we get rain?

[mofugga]

So... what happens if we get rain?
rain is fine as long as there's no lightening. i think cfr ran one last year or 2 years ago in the middle of a hurricane :lol:

[bam2002]

Just got back from setting up the course. Well we did stop for dinner on the way back.

The Vettes were running till 6:30. they did let me go out and run with them. DAM nothin like a 405hp Z06 and mininal cones.

Well Sundays course is .6 of a mile , it will be about 45 to 55 sec for the faster cars. It has a fast turn around and a Very fast return up to the dumpsters.


See every one tomorrow.

Barry

[MrSmith]

We will have 3 or 4 cars coming out of USF/Temple Terrace if you want to roll out together. We will prorbably get on I75 from Fletcher/Fowler. Where are you coming from?

Im about 15 min away... what time and where exactly are you meeting up? Maybe I can tag along :oops:

[mikeyees13]

Im about 15 min away... what time and where exactly are you meeting up? Maybe I can tag along :oops:

My roomate, his brother, brother's friend, and I are all staying at our apartment tonight and leaving from here. We havent really talked about it much, but Id like to be on I-75 at 6:45AM. We live near I-75 just off of Fletcher. If it isnt out of your way, youre welcome to meet us up in the morning to drive up in a group. Where are you coming from? Brandon/Riverview?

our apartment (http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp?searchtype=address&country=US&addtohistory=&searchtab=home&formtype=address&popflag=1&latlongtype=internal&latitude=z5cWzkiJx24%3D&longitude=71D%2BaqpX86I%3D&name=&phone=&level=ADDRESS&cat=&address=13140+Sanctuary+Cove+Dr&city=Tampa&state=FL&zipcode=33637-2059)
-Mike

[MrSmith]

Shit man youre a ways away... I am out toward gunn hwy my directions say to hop on 589 and take that all the way up. I guess I will see you and the caravan up there :)




See every one tomorrow.


:thumbup:

[mikeyees13]

Shit man youre a ways away... I am out toward gunn hwy my directions say to hop on 589 and take that all the way up. I guess I will see you and the caravan up there :)



:thumbup:


Sounds good! See you guys out there!

[D-Roll]

It was a good turn out, great runs. At least until the rain made a special appearance :lol:

[bam2002]

http://www.fscbmwcca.org/DrivingEvents/standings.html

Results are UP..

Sorry about the Rain. We will start extending the AM runs and push lunch back, so that we can get al least 6 runs in.

[mikeyees13]

great course today, I had a blast despite all the car trouble. Im not on that list. #75 Mike Yee '90 240sx, thanks!

[WhiteGhost2.5]

Yes loved the course, but I think I got a 47.xxx thats what I saw on the print out can you please check that for me...if you can. Josh Sandel 800

thanks again for a good time and a fun challenging course.


Josh

[chi town brat]

great course, i enjoyed the braking points

autox is such a stress reliever and dayum if my time didn't show how much stress was relieved today!

[jblaine]

http://www.fscbmwcca.org/DrivingEvents/standings.html

Results are UP..

Sorry about the Rain. We will start extending the AM runs and push lunch back, so that we can get al least 6 runs in.
Barry, I can't decide on my name apparently.

You have me as 'Jeff Blaine' for May 14th and 'Charles Blain' for June 11th.

Can you please combine those under 'Jeff Blaine'

I will stick to my common/informal name from now on. Sorry about that :(

Cool course today. Smart move calling it off 5 minutes before downpour.

[beebo10]

great course, i enjoyed the braking points

autox is such a stress reliever and dayum if my time didn't show how much stress was relieved today!

angela, u beat the m3 coupes! just wanted to say wow, ur doing great!

[Spin Out]

Thanks for the fun course BAM. Excellent event as always.

You did a geat job Angie.
You had me by more than a second.
(But I planned to make that up in the afternoon runs?)

[MrSmith]

I had a great time :thumbup:

See you at the next event :)

[chi town brat]

angela, u beat the m3 coupes! just wanted to say wow, ur doing great!

thanks man . like i said i was more aggressive due to being so stressed out lately

i was hoping to hit the 40's (upper) in the afternoon session but thats okay . still a good day

[ZenkiS14_Drifter]

awesome coarse yesterday. I had a great time running 3rd gear out after the turn around.

[bam2002]

Ill go back over and check the scores on Paper. I know that a few of the computer scores didnt have the cones added. Due to the course workers calling them in after the time had been logged.

Ill also get the name part fixed. Im out of town till Wed , so it will be done after that.



It good to hear every one had fun, I was really looking forward to 4 more runs after lunch. YEP i needed to get my time down at least near Chi's. (G).



Guess Ill need to start watching the weather report before the event.



NOTE: the next event on the 23rd will be a BMW vs Porsche auto X. Only cars from these 2 manufacturers will be allowed to run. We do allow any one to drive, I know that both sides are recruiting drivers. So if you know any one that owns one of these car types and they are willing to share a car your set. For those that dont have a BMW or P car and want to drive Email me at the autoX@24hr.us. I will get a list compiled for " guest" drivers. I cant guarantee any thing but I can pass the info along to both the clubs.
Sign up on My autoevents.com for this event once you have a car.


Thanks

Barry

[Spin Out]

Hi BAM, Thanks for the heads up about the Porsche VS BMW event.
My Merkur was built in Koln. That's as German as my cars get.
I'll look in the back yard for any BMWs or Porsches, but I doubt I'll find any.

[D-Roll]

Ill go back over and check the scores on Paper. I know that a few of the computer scores didnt have the cones added. Due to the course workers calling them in after the time had been logged.

Ill also get the name part fixed. Im out of town till Wed , so it will be done after that.



It good to hear every one had fun, I was really looking forward to 4 more runs after lunch. YEP i needed to get my time down at least near Chi's. (G).



Guess Ill need to start watching the weather report before the event.



NOTE: the next event on the 23rd will be a BMW vs Porsche auto X. Only cars from these 2 manufacturers will be allowed to run. We do allow any one to drive, I know that both sides are recruiting drivers. So if you know any one that owns one of these car types and they are willing to share a car your set. For those that dont have a BMW or P car and want to drive Email me at the autoX@24hr.us. I will get a list compiled for " guest" drivers. I cant guarantee any thing but I can pass the info along to both the clubs.
Sign up on My autoevents.com for this event once you have a car.


Thanks

Barry

Great event Barry, nice meeting you. I look forward to future events.

[jblaine]

NOTE: the next event on the 23rd will be a BMW vs Porsche auto X. Only cars from these 2 manufacturers will be allowed to run.
I assume you mean the 25th. June 23rd is a Friday and the 25th is listed on the PCA site as a PCA + BMW event.

[ZenkiS14_Drifter]

I assume you mean the 25th. June 23rd is a Friday and the 25th is listed on the PCA site as a PCA + BMW event.

he means july 23rd

[djben]

Some videos from the Autocross.

This was my first autox/race event ever and I've never even had a remotely quick car in my life -- I am a noob who just needs training :D

Don't stream them, right click -> save as.

Mine:
High definition WMV (50MB)
(http://tinyurl.com/qkqly)
Low quality MP4 (10MB) (http://tinyurl.com/mxn89)

Justin/Juco's videos

1 - High definition WMV (42MB)
(http://tinyurl.com/lpaqc)
2 - High definition WMV (42MB)
(http://tinyurl.com/q676h)
3 - High definition WMV (42MB)
(http://tinyurl.com/rvzvj)

1 - Low quality MP4 (7MB)
(http://tinyurl.com/lojbj)
2 - Low quality MP4 (7MB)
(http://tinyurl.com/mtt4a)
3 - Low quality MP4 (7MB)
(http://tinyurl.com/jptc9)

[mikeyees13]

Cool videos!

[djben]

I was going to get some more footage later in the afternoon from the stations out on the course but the whole rain thing... :-|

[jblaine]

Cool videos.

I have to say something though after wincing while watching you at the last event.

It seems nobody from the club has said anything, because you did the same thing at this event... and I was wincing again, waiting for someone to get creamed.

The timing lights at the end of the course are obvious. They're big boxes on the ground. When your front end crosses them, you should be off throttle and braking HARD to get your speed down to about 10mph. You FLY through the timing lights and are often still heavy into the throttle wayyyy past them.

Not trying to be your Dad or Mom, but it is the only thing at all that has stood out to me at the last 2 events as unsafe/scary out of everyone.

[jblaine]

he means july 23rd
Yes, I am stupid. :)

[ZenkiS14_Drifter]

Yes, I am stupid. :)


it happens to us all

[Spin Out]

I can't believe I forgot, but I owe someone a big Thank You.

I was out picking up cones when the high winds started to come in, and someone moved my cooler and chair next to car so they would not get blown into the next county.
Those winds were really picking up out there. At one point I felt like I was in a Giant Sand Blaster. Well, thanks to the good Samaritan who saved my stuff from ending up in the land of OZ.

[bam2002]

Good call on the exiting the course (Jblaine). Ill make sure I mention it during the next event. Since we had a good run off area its not a Huge risk. But your right, if some one were to blow out a tire or loose controle of the car at that point it be scary.

[djben]

Perhaps angle the exit area so it faces off the runway (with plenty of space so you're not exiting 10 feet from the edge) so if a tire blows or someone loses control they're at least heading into the grass and not other cars or people... just a thought.

[Muddy]

Wish I could have been there, but I did run at an autox in Baton Rouge and flogged a rented Rustang convertible instead! :lol:

[D-Roll]

Nice videos!

[Spin Out]

Hi Muddy, I wondered where you were.

I love the rented Mustang Idea.
I looked on the Hertz website yesterday to see when the Hertz Mustang (325 hp) will be available.
TIA is one of the few places in the country that will have them.
I'm verry tempted to take one to Brooksville ..... Um, I mean for a leasurely Sunday Drive.