She runs on her own now

[SmokinS13SR20]

Well today me and my bro pumped the rest of the water out of the tank, she ran decent for 6-7 cylinders:P This week i'm going to pick up some valve stem seals, a master cylidner, and 4 brake cylinders for the 4-wheel drums :grin: BTW if you guys dont remember what car It s a 1968 Camaro implanted with a 1964 Chevelle SS 327 :thumbup: Once the seals are in and misc. gaskets are in place, Its time for body prep and interior refabrication, if you guys want some pics i'll post some up. She's in the process, but any real mechanic/car enthusiast shall see the potential.

-Joe

[Dano Moparo]

Awesome, now thats you little piece of american history to preserve. All 1st gen Camaros have potential. Posts some picks, it's not like it's pics of a red civic with a white body kit.

[SmokinS13SR20]

Naw but its pics of a Camaro with a red front end, blue back end, white trunk lid and a rusted roof :grin: Lemme upload em and ill post up

[SmokinS13SR20]

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[SmokinS13SR20]

Since these pics have been taken MSD 8MM Plug wires, a Holley Fuel Pump, a new Puralator fuel filter and lines have been added. We aslo cleaned up the valve covers a bit. The floor pans and trunk pan need to be welded in. We also have all the Rally Wheels with the Caps in the back porch. Just needed some rubber that holds air to roll around on.
What ya'll think?

[Notladstyle]

NoTLaDsTYle: holy hell
NoTLaDsTYle: wtf is it
SmokinS13SR20: a camaro
NoTLaDsTYle: ok, as long as u dont call it a car.
NoTLaDsTYle: that roles
NoTLaDsTYle: on the road


:D props man I cant wait till you are ready to put the audio system in and maybe some lighting.

[Suicidal Racing]

looks good man.i know i would rather have a beat up camaro then my 74 nova.that thing has the look i was looking 4.

[Frankie]

She's beat to death, but it's good to see someone fixing her up instead of junking her. As a 1st gen owner, I can only try to express to you how much fun these cars are. The 327 is no joke either, and with the right cam, holds a LOT of potential. Luckily, these cars are light enough to be able to stand losing all of that low-end torque in lieu of high RPM 327 horsepower.

If I were you, I'd pull that motor out for the weekend, do a full gasket kit on it, and while it's out, paint that engine compartment.

[SmokinS13SR20]

Well, here are the plans. The 327 is getting valve stem seals so its running on all 8, header gaskets, a carb rebuild and new springs and lifters. The 327 is only going to be used to move the car around while we do body work and interior. Eventually the 350 Vortec sitting on a stand in the garage is gonna get a cam, lifters and springs. That will be plopped in while funds tend to gather up and everything is done. Now, i know some will be skeptical but, me and my bro have been talking about slapping two turbos on the 350 after it is built and switched to EFI. Yea, I know don't run that cam with turbos, no overlap is wanted, i know, all my friends drive hondas :grin: I sorta wanna build the 327 for top-end haul-ass-ness lol but we'll see nothing is set in stone as of right now. :thumbup: The turbo ish would be awhile down the road if it happened. If any of you guys go out to the wendys on friday, once we get it running right and looking better me and my bro won't hesitate to come up there.

[SmokinS13SR20]

Ohh and dalton no, sorry, no ricer lights allowed:crack: :roll:

[Frankie]

The 327 would be a better choice for a turbo app. The bore/stroke on the 327 has a lot less side-loading, plus, the stroke is so short you can rev 'em pretty hard without tossing a rod. It's pretty hard to toss a rod out of a 350 also, but the 327 is just hard core. If you're gonna go all top-end balls out power with no real desire to street, do the 327. I had a high duration, low lift cam in my '65 327 and it was laying down a solid 350hp and taching out to 7,000 RPM all day.

If those 327 heads need valve seals and springs, you should just invest the $150 at Clearwater Cylinder Head for a trade-out on those heads for some fresh ones. Best case scenario they're 1.94/1.50 heads, so it's not like you need to worry about losing something valuable. It'll save you time and energy, plus, you'll have new, tight heads. While you've got 'em off, do the lifters, the head gaskets, and any other gaskets that engine needs. A FelPro gasket kit for an SBC costs about $40 at Discount.

Seriously though, if I were you, I'd take the 327 out of the car for the weekend, drop the heads off, clean and paint that engine bay, toss the $40 gasket kit in the engine, and degrease that block before tossing it back in. It'll look like a million bucks. As long as the rings are good, a new set of gaskets'll have that thing running like brand new.

With that 350, I hope you had those Vortec heads worked. Stock, contrary to popular belief, they flow kinda like shit for any high performance applications. They'll make one hell of a torque monster, but at high RPM/high lift, they kinda lose their flare. Sounds like they might be good for a forced induction setup though, especially with a milder cam for the turbo.

Blah blah blah, preach preach preach, if you need any help, let me know. I'm pretty handy on old 60's Chevy engines.

[SmokinS13SR20]

My whole family has had bad experiences at CCH so we are pretty disappointed with them. The 327 needs rings badly, the blow-by is horrible. I might buy the 327 from my dad and get a project Nova or Chevelle for myself, see as i have awhile until i can drive about 1 1/2 years lol. I dunno we'll see as time goes on how things lay them selves out

[Suicidal Racing]

hey if your 327 is a 4 bolt i and u want to sell it hit me up bro.

[SmokinS13SR20]

It's a 1964 327 out of a Chevelle SS, you tell me if it is a 2-bolt or a 4-bolt ;)

[Frankie]

All 327's are two-bolt mains.

[Suicidal Racing]

the 3970010 block in 1969 u could get it 2 bolt or 4 bolt and was used for 302,327 and 350s and some 4 bolt 327 where made.

but look on the back right of the block and u should see a block number.that has a small rod journal crank in it.so it uses 2.00 main instead of 2.10

how much do u want for it.i got racing stuff that we can maybe trade for it or cash

[Frankie]

Damn, I just got told. Tony knows his shit.

Edit - I've got a 2 bolt '65 327 bottom end. I might trade it for something worthwhile. It's .020" over and I've got the small journal forged crank, rods, and a set of Sterling pistons.

[Suicidal Racing]

what are u looking for?right now i just got a complete dart racing top end but i think i got that sold already.

next i'm going to get a ship ment of bryant billet race cranks in.going to sell them for around 750$ each.

does that 65 block have the 2.30 crank mains or the std 2.45 350 main style.

[Frankie]

what are u looking for?right now i just got a complete dart racing top end but i think i got that sold already.

next i'm going to get a ship ment of bryant billet race cranks in.going to sell them for around 750$ each.

does that 65 block have the 2.30 crank mains or the std 2.45 350 main style.

Couldn't tell ya. You're welcome to come by and take a look at it. It's all sitting in my garage.

[Suicidal Racing]

just give me the number on the crank snout and the block and i can look it up.

[Frankie]

just give me the number on the crank snout and the block and i can look it up.

Alright. I'll post 'em up when I get home from work.

[SmokinS13SR20]

Take it to PM's ya'll :grin: :thumbup: