my very first box

[1stGen7]

ok well my freind wanted a boix for 4 6's this is a mids box i was like ok ill try and bild you a box never built one befor... so i told him to get me some wood ill but the screws and outher stuff you get the wood... he brought me a peice of good plywood so im buiding him a box for mids and highs out of plywood... well so far so good ive spent about 10-15 mins. on this box and i got it cut down need to cut top bottem and sids tomarow... but tonight i cut it down and cut 1 hole out this is my very first box i ever tried to build so dont flame on me ill post more pics as im building... LMK if i did a ok job for my 1st box.
The first pic is a box i got for free and i got bored and mounted 4 6's on it and 3 neons.

[rys]

I dont think you are supposed to used plywood, but the cut looks straight?

[GradeA_TireFryer]

why a box for mids & highs?

[TBSpyder]

I dont think you are supposed to used plywood, but the cut looks straight?


It's ok when using mids....they really don't even need a box. So it's a good practice piece. Now when you start doing sub boxes, you want to make sure it's out of mdf, and air tight.


Instead of builing a box though, you should be taking the stock speakers out of the doors, building adapter plates with the plywood (if needed) and mounting the mids and highs there. Save the big bulky boxes for subwoofers.

[1stGen7]

well my freind had the plywood siting around and i wanted to try and build a box today he came over and said i could have the box so its mine i just got done cuting allmost all the peices but the sides pics up soon

[93ex]

It's good practice.. the cost of the wood was right so you can get familiar wth the tools/procedures. I know the first box I build out of mdf came out like asshole, and wasted about a sheet of mdf.

[1stGen7]

pics

[1stGen7]

more pics... it looks ok i guess i will be puting mossy oak cloth on it and makeing it look alittle better... the speekers are some bullshits i had laying around and threw in the box to see what it looks like with speekers in it...

[Notladstyle]

You need about .35 cuft of space per woofer. from the looks of those pics you need about half of what you have now.

did you double check your impedance wiring? even mids will burn an amp out is wired low. wiring too high will just clean up the sound a bit.

[BigTruckinMF85]

that shit is busted.....lol

[Bumpin Expo]

I hope you are carpeting?

[Notladstyle]

... btw, it that elmers glue like I used in elementry school :D Jfwy

[1stGen7]

yes i am puting mossy oak fabric over it yeah its elmers glue i used it the i used colking

[Notladstyle]

if you really want to get a little more bass from them, build an isolinear box - you should be able to double the effective output in the same space.

[TBSpyder]

if you really want to get a little more bass from them, build an isolinear box - you should be able to double the effective output in the same space.


I think that may be a little over kill given the situation......

[Notladstyle]

I think that may be a little over kill given the situation......

its fun tho. adn if he has the time it would be a neat looking project when finished.

[1stGen7]

ok i know im going to sound stupid asking this but what is a isolinear box?

[Notladstyle]

http://notladstyle.com/post/isolinear.jpg


Just threw that in paint for you ^^ I didnt check the spelling srry

[1stGen7]

that looks badass but isent that a bass box or would it be good for my mids?

[ragingdave]

Good first shot with a box man.

[Notladstyle]

that looks badass but isent that a bass box or would it be good for my mids?

I'm building one wit mids but because it will dirty the phase I'm pretty sure anything over 1000hz wil sound really muddy.

I was just posting for a fun project - just reduce the depth of the box you have now and it will be clean.

[1stGen7]

well i thought the box was to flat. so i cut some rigs out today, and when i get alittle more money im going and try to fiberglass it. i got the speakers faceing eachouther...

[Notladstyle]

well i thought the box was to flat. so i cut some rigs out today, and when i get alittle more money im going and try to fiberglass it. i got the speakers faceing eachouther...

looks good but if you are gonna fiberglass it start with a right angle wood and glass the speakers into it facing off the angle - it will give you cleaner more distinct curves and space value.

[1stGen7]

start with a right angle wood and glass the speakers into it facing off the angle?


ok i know im sounding stupid but what do you mean?

[Notladstyle]

Like two pieces and then use fiberglass to smooth the rest in curves. You could really make a hot piece out of your side project that would turn heads.


http://notladstyle.com/post/fgb.jpg

But before you fiberglass, cut the wood to conform with the curves of the speaker rings - the right angle will sit and the rest will be all curves.

http://notladstyle.com/post/fgb1.jpg

[Notladstyle]

btw none of the above Qs were stupid :p they were good Qs and project looks hot so far.

[1stGen7]

so the box will prety much have a back and bottem and the rest of the box will be fiberglass? i might try that for my next box... i got a ? for you... who sells MDF?

[Notladstyle]

so the box will prety much have a back and bottem and the rest of the box will be fiberglass? i might try that for my next box... i got a ? for you... who sells MDF?

home depot has 2' x 4' and 6 x 10 panels, I think they call them quick panels or handy panel. the 2x4 is about $6 - $8 the bigger one is like $20


for mids im pretty sure you could get away with particle board with little trouble. particle board is a lot cheaper.

[1stGen7]

thats cool TY and if i have anymore Q's ill ask. LMAO this is the only place ill be posting from now on that i see everyone is cool when im not a dickhead...

[Notladstyle]

thats cool TY and if i have anymore Q's ill ask. LMAO this is the only place ill be posting from now on that i see everyone is cool when im not a dickhead...

this is the only forum I can stand to post in because every other forum is half BS and the other half call outs. althought I wouldnt mind being called out to bang my system next to someone elses.

[1stGen7]

lol man when i get my ranger ill have to come to you and get you to do all my system work.. cause there is no way in hell im going to try and built my 1st wall LMAO

[Notladstyle]

lol man when i get my ranger ill have to come to you and get you do do all my system work cause there is no way in hell im going to try and built my 1st wall LMAO

I'm hopefully starting an internship this summer. No more car audio for me =( But maybe we can pick up some beers and have a AHQ forum project day where we get together and work on it. TJelite might even let us use his shit in exchange for a few stickers on the windows...

[1stGen7]

i hope i make it out to the next meet my freind got called into work so we couldent make it.... hopfaly well make it to the next one.. cause i want to check out his shop and check out some peoples cars.. yeah i PMed him and asked him if he had some stickers but he said he does but only puts them on cars he works on...

[1stGen7]

well i just got a free truck and looking for some crazy system idea's.. anything will be considerd... give me some ideas and i might give you alittle money to do it.. itll take a while to get the money seen as i dont have a job and all... but if i like your ideas ill pay you to bring it to life.. LMK its a 1988 dodge ram short bed like the one i just scraped but mine was a long bed... singal cab but if you come up with a way i can put 4 12's or 4 15's in it and wont charge me 1,000+ like someone told me befor on here then ill let you do the work... i dono LMK

[1stGen7]

well i allmost got the shape i want.. but then the damn screwdriver sliped off the screw and layed my thumb wide open(i was useing screw to get the shape i wanted then ima staple it tonight) all i need is 1 screw... pics up soon

[1stGen7]

pics

[Notladstyle]

its hard to tell from the pics but I'm sure it will be a unique piece when fiinished!

Keep gooing and post more pics up.

[POST]

I'm hopefully starting an internship this summer. No more car audio for me =( But maybe we can pick up some beers and have a AHQ forum project day where we get together and work on it. TJelite might even let us use his shit in exchange for a few stickers on the windows...

I like promoting places I respect, i'd love to place one of his stickers (if he has any) on my car; though I never bought anything from there, I plan on getting maybe an in-dash PC or something from there when i save up enough and get out of this rediculous debt.

That said...., TJElite, hook us up!! >.< =]

[1stGen7]

got some better lines that i like better heres pics... dont know if youi can tell but it looks badass

[1stGen7]

well i came up with a idea... the shirt i used had a evil looking green dog on it... so i cut his head off and traced it onto a peice of wood cut the wood out and im going to fiberglas it ontop of my box then put the dogs head on it... LOL pics

[integralsgreen]

this is the only forum I can stand to post in because every other forum is half BS and the other half call outs. althought I wouldnt mind being called out to bang my system next to someone elses.
come bang urs next to mine :D.

[Notladstyle]

come bang urs next to mine :D.'


Ha, if I bang next to ur shit there wil be parts jingling all over and you might lose screws ;)

[1stGen7]

back on topic?

[Notladstyle]

well i came up with a idea... the shirt i used had a evil looking green dog on it... so i cut his head off and traced it onto a peice of wood cut the wood out and im going to fiberglas it ontop of my box then put the dogs head on it... LOL pics


never seen a riced out fiberglass box before :D this will be worth rep points when its done.

[1stGen7]

a riced out speaker box LMAO dont try my ill make a big wing for it and out neons on it... not doging on neons i love them

[1stGen7]

never seen a riced out fiberglass box before :D this will be worth rep points when its done.


im hopeing to have it done by next weekend if i get the money.. o yeah 4 pages yep

[SmokinS13SR20]

Nice man keep up the good work and keep us updated. :thumbup:

[TBSpyder]

never seen a riced out fiberglass box before :D this will be worth rep points when its done.


You haven't been in the field long enough then....... :mullet:

[Notladstyle]

You haven't been in the field long enough then....... :mullet:

:roll: noob!

[ragingdave]

I love this thread! Build it man looking good!

[1stGen7]

went and got a small fiberglass repair kit.. im only useing the resin.. fucking walmart only had fiberglass resin jelly and i dident know if i could use that... them fuckers run out of everything fast ill be doing the resin on the shirt tomarow

[1stGen7]

well i just got done with puting the resin on the shirt ima need alittle more resin befor i can fiberglass... everything going good sofar pics up soon

[1stGen7]

pics

[1stGen7]

more pics...cut the shirt down and the speaker holes out looking better

[Notladstyle]

looks like it will turn out clean - box it still too big tho.

[1stGen7]

yeah im going to chop it down tomarow... well later today LOL

[1stGen7]

does it look right i mean i think there is no posable way to mess resin up... but with my luck ill find away... the kit came with a 3 SQ foot of fiberglass that i can use and ima go get somemore resin to do the fiberglass and maybe anouther coat on the box i dono... what do you think? needs anouther coat or no? cause its still soft around where i stratched it and i dono if it has to be rock hard or not... never done fiberglass

[Notladstyle]

does it look right i mean i think there is no posable way to mess resin up... but with my luck ill find away... the kit came with a 3 SQ foot of fiberglass that i can use and ima go get somemore resin to do the fiberglass and maybe anouther coat on the box i dono... what do you think? needs anouther coat or no? cause its still soft around where i stratched it and i dono if it has to be rock hard or not... never done fiberglass


If you mean 3sq ft fiberglass mat you dont need that at all. Go to home depot and get a qt of just the resin because you will always find shit to use it for. With speakers that small and actually surface area thats even smaller, you dont need fiberglass mat at all. its probably flexing becuase it didnt soak all the way through the shirt. unless you can coat the backside you will prolly need 3+ layers to get it nice & firm. It should be hard to the touch and shoudlnt flex without serious muscle.

try taking a heat gun(hair dryer) to it for 15 minutes and see if it gets harder as well.

[1stGen7]

choped the box down yesterday pics up soon

[1stGen7]

pics

[Notladstyle]

sweet, sand and primer that badboy and put some paint on it.


... and buy a new camera :p

[1stGen7]

lol its my moms shity camera.. its from wal-mart LOL i think she pays 20 bucks for it? it gets the job done i guess.. is it the right size now?

[Notladstyle]

lol its my moms shity camera.. its from wal-mart LOL i think she pays 20 bucks for it? it gets the job done i guess.. is it the right size now?

cant really tell from pics, need exact measurements and the motor specs for hte speakers. But a speaker that size putting out mids you wont see that big a difference based on the volume of the box. I ust didnt want you wasting space in your vehicle for nothing.

[YBlegal]

looks good phillip....

[1stGen7]

ok well the box was siting in the grage in a chair and my cat jumped on it and it fell... well needless to say its done. the rings are fine and all so i just broke the rest of the resin soaked shirt off and put a new one on and ima try this again after i kill my cat LOL... this one is going to look better i think cause im doing the sides front and top and im going to do like 4 coats on this one so i have more to sand down to make it smoth...

[TBSpyder]

Use bondo (or something similar) after fiberglassing to smooth things out. It's much easier to sand than multple coats of resin.

[1stGen7]

i was thinking of that

[integralsgreen]

yea use lightweight filler. defentally saves ur elbow

[1stGen7]

im back well my computer crashed and had to get it fixed there really no update on the box besides i got more resin today and im about to go do the box again might take pics dono if the program is on the computer yet but o well

[Notladstyle]

im back well my computer crashed and had to get it fixed there really no update on the box besides i got more resin today and im about to go do the box again might take pics dono if the program is on the computer yet but o well

DRAW PICTURES first!!!!

You wouldnt not beleive how much easier it is to come up with a good looking project by knowing what you want and having a picture first.

[1stGen7]

loli found some dumb guy here in lakeland he wants me to fiberglass his door panials i told him he buys the stuff and ill do it for 10 bucks a door... so i guess ima try and do the doors for him i just put the resin on th box (for the 2nd time f*cking cat) and waiting for it to dry

[Notladstyle]

loli found some dumb guy here in lakeland he wants me to fiberglass his door panials i told him he buys the stuff and ill do it for 10 bucks a door... so i guess ima try and do the doors for him i just put the resin on th box (for the 2nd time f*cking cat) and waiting for it to dry


doors... I hate doors. but hte good thing is you can cut lots of holes and reasin the whole damn thing and paint it anything you want.

[1stGen7]

started sanding today and that shit is easy to sand... going to get primer here soon and going to primer it and figger out a way to screw it to my 3 wheel bike..