check this out!!! (attention all drifters)

[bobby diehl]

My name is Bobby Diehl. I have the FASTRUCK Pro Touring, FASTKIDS and The FAST Late Model Series. We put on our own Events. I am a Road Racer that has become a Stockcar Series Promoter. I am also a Automotive Teacher. We have a High Perfromance Class at South County Career Center in the Hillsborough County School System.
The FAST Series have "The 2006 Motor Sports Extravaganza". My students introduced me to the Drifting though videos, web sites. and could not believe how blind I have been when it comes to "The Ballet on Asphalt". I went to the Forumla D event at Orlando Speed World. Wow this is "HOT"!!! The Students hooked me up with some Drifter from Sarasota area. Tray and the guys. They help me put on a show for my (so called red neck) stock car fans. They love it!!!! They too could not believe the ultimate car control, not to mention the Horse Power from the cars. They too are now "HOOKED"!!! We are putting together the FAST Drifter Formula DST (Drifting, Stockcar, Tracks) Touring Series. We also want to have Parking Lot, and Airport Events. It is going to take a little time to work out all the bugs of "The Clashing of Two Worlds". But I feel your form of Motor Sports is the got its place amoung the top Series in the County.

I am meeting today with the Florida State Fair Ground to put the final touches on the 4/8/06 Event. The next three weeks in a row will allow cars to compete in their own local areas or travel to all three. We will post the out come of the meeting. Also we will put out the information about all three events(times and cost for entry). Both the Ocala Speedway event on 4/15/06, and the Orlando Speed World on 4/22/06 will be a joint Events.
We are working hard to get you a place the compete and organize the FAST Drifting Forumla DST Series. Our goal is to become feeder Series to "Formula D" National Program.

For any question please E mail me at fastruckinc@aol.com (fastruckinc@aol.com) or call me at 813-817-7223.
Thanks!!![/b]

[dudocius240sx]

I will be attending at the Florida State fair ground event. one question are we going to share drift time with the Fast trucks or anyother motosport like we do in Charlotte? thanks

[2Valve]

NO thanks

[Anthony R]

I will be attending at the Florida State fair ground event. one question are we going to share drift time with the Fast trucks or anyother motosport like we do in Charlotte? thanks

no, all day drifting if evreything go's a planned

[McLovin']

whats the driving fee going to be? will there be tire changers there? uh... thats about all i need to know

[Kung Fu Grip]

:mullet: :mullet: :mullet:

[buck19]

This is actually pretty cool. You could start doing a little points system for local drivers and traveling drivers where they compete against each other like in ALMS where you have an over all winner and a class winner, iE: touring series and maybe either local driver seires or a one day points race. For an overall winner you could take the total score of all laps combined using the 5 point scale divided by the total number of completed laps for an average points per lap. Highest four ranked drivers go to sudden death elimination round. You could throw in an A.M. practice session, with an allowed certain number of laps. Then have the competition after lunch.

But whatever. It's just a thought.

[Yellow Rocket]

its not everyday i see someone with the same lastname as me

[buck19]

Haha. what are you odds?

[paul kersey]

ill pass.

[ninja999]

hey bobby diehl were u a teacher at hills high school 10+ yrs ago?

[nismokid]

Do u know a auto teacher mr. mendola at gaither?

[hachibill]

well, its a series, granted its not what we were looking for, but its still a start. and i think is worth a shot.

[Anthony R]

thanks for all the useful info. glad to see people getting pumped up. buck 19- that is a idea, we have plans to do this in the future. we just want to make sure evreything goes as planned.

[bobby diehl]

here's the fdst 2 day schedule.

saturday 8th and sunday 9th

8:30-12:00 practice
1:00- 4:00 competition
4:00- 5:00 open course(freestyle)

$50 for drivers , you must have proof of insurance, and be pre-registered(for pre-reg you must call 813-817-7223 or e-mail fastruckinc@aol.com ) and when the driver registers they will also get a free pass into the expo hall.

$5 per crew member

parking is 5 for passenger vehicle.

[spoonfed]

you are overselling it dude...makes me suspicious lol

[Durdan]

oh man, we're riding on our own insurance? uh oh...

[Mike]

Hmm from my circle track days i remember ol' Bobby Dehil screwing some series people over and as well as some drivers, good luck dealing with this guy boys......

[Anthony R]

you are overselling it dude...makes me suspicious lol


suspicious of what. if u feel some shady about the series we r trying to have stay home. evreyone bitches that we never have parking lot events, now we do so whats up. stop talking and being gay. i know our series is not D-1 but damn we r giving the public a chance to be seen for 50 dollars, cheaper than any other event there is. i don't understand why someone would post something like this "sounds suspicious", "you r overselling", and "i have dealt with bobby good luck". wtf. stop wasting the posts, since u care about getting the numbers under your name. grow up, put the big boy pant's on, and come out and drift.;)

[Anthony R]

Hmm from my circle track days i remember ol' Bobby Dehil screwing some series people over and as well as some drivers, good luck dealing with this guy boys......



sorry to hear about that, did he screw you over? if not diging up the past is a real mature thing to do.

keep it sidewayz;)

[Igor]

Ill be going, I actually should be going up there this saturday too, to look at the lot that we have and play around with some course layouts.

Ive been to 3 of these events so far, they really arent as bad as some of you guys see them as.

Sure its a diffrent setting, sometimes it does get difficult and frustrating, but in the end its not about that, its about the people there driving. I always have a good time with all the guys that show up, and thats 75%of the reason I go.

[shift-lock]

Simple as this!!! ASK Mr.Bobby where he got I mean Stole the name Fasttruck series from!!!!!!!

Or how about the time He couldn't pay up?????

Sure parking lots are good fun, but how do we know it will last all day. WHo's to stop the management after seeing whats really going on from stopping it an hour in and then not getting refunded.


And why the hell do you need to show proof of insurance in a Race CAR EVENT???

[Jordan T]

ill drift with the durkas!

[dudocius240sx]

WHY SO MUCH FUCKING DRAMA............
Driftfest has fucked up a couple of times and shift-lock is sponsoring their event. Rob i will be honest with you bro, if you have some sort of problems with this bobby guy, there is emails and Pm's. I am not taking sides here. I do think you should let this guy promote his event, how would you like if some jerk goes around replying to all of your OSW events with negative comments about you as a pomoter. C'mon dude, i think this is making you look childish. Drop it bro, if people want to attend they will, no matter what you say.
Do you think the owner of McDonalds is going to start running around bashing BK. no they try to make thir merchandise better. You are not the only one holding events in FL, which means you have competition and this should help you improve your events and try to best the competition.

And you others why whining. if all you really enjoy drifting you should all be happy we are getting more events. No matter who the promoter is.

[miss daisy]

ok, i think we should all chill out. First we need to realize that this could have potenial and take off and be a good thing. And if the "rumors" are true then he will learn quick how to lose money and rep. but lets give this a chance. I know for a fact while anthony and his buddies were laying out the track and they were also drifting and it was prolly in front of management. And with bobby getting hyped up on the event itself its only because he wants you to be hyped up as well. Please dont shot the messagener

[The Kyle]

you must have proof of insurance...



*cough*


Um, What?

Sounds like you really know what you're doing there, Bobby. :thumbup:

[B16aTeggy]

whats insurance?

[paul kersey]

this is sketchy as fuck.

[Alchemist XL]

then dont go, more seat time for everyone else who goes. he's had 3 events already where it was a lot of fun. so why does everyone insist on posting negative shit. no wonder florida = fail.. look at the supporters.

[hachibill]

me and a few other's went to the 1st event at charolett speedway and you'll notice non of us are involved any more. its not that bobby's sketchy, but may not have whats best for the drifters on his mind all the time. but then again he is taking a chance for us, so atleast we could do is give it a shot. if it goes sower, so what, you'll never know unless you take the chance.

[Alchemist XL]

me and a few other's went to the 1st event at charolett speedway and you'll notice non of us are involved any more. its not that bobby's sketchy, but may not have whats best for the drifters on his mind all the time. but then again he is taking a chance for us, so atleast we could do is give it a shot. if it goes sower, so what, you'll never know unless you take the chance.

yea, i hear where you are coming from. but still, track time is track time, its semi local, the charlotte track is really clean and has a wayyyyyyyyyyy better infield than orlando speedworld, hes trying to get us parking lot events, if it goes sour, oh well.. back to the roots or w/e. but if all there is gonna be is negative criticism then why even bother trying to have events anywhere. its better than nothing, sometimes. i hate ovals as much as the next person, but parking lot events are cool so why is everyone crying about it now.. first it was oh, were not going because it's an oval with walls, now its a parking lot and they are still crying wtf. hypocrit sons of bitches lol.. either way im going, if it doesnt work out it doesnt work out, like u said, you never know til u take the chance. :mullet:

[buck19]

I have a couple of friends with track only cars that dont have insurance. What are they suppose to do. Sit at home? That's what the track is for. A legal place to race your not street legal car. Just an observation.

But they do have health and life insurance. lol

[box240mod]

AnthonyR... grow up
EVERY post you make is literally saying either
A: ty for support, or
B: f- off if you dont like it...

realize that I am a big fan of seeing this work out for our community and I have been talkign with bobby a lot and have been to 1 out of the 2 "points" events. the first of which was very good up until the end, where we did INFACT have a fall through on our competition. I don't know how the second event went. There is some difficulty with his plans, trying to fuse it within a 'set show' of series that are already established. But he is trying, I do give him credit for it and i am very happy. But we need to know about these things a MONTH in advance and not a WEEK... organization needs to rise about 200% if this series is going to succeed.

I am really looking forward to Tampa event and wanna invite people out but guess what.... I can't tell them didly squat yet cuz I may not be able to even go now if i need INSURANCE? (wth)

This concern is just because its 7days till, we get little to no details on event workings, and for something this 'advanced' as a competition event, we want to know things, and have time to plan and setup stuff. How is the competition going to be run? judged? by drifters? how many will be in comp? do we qualify? is there a tire changer? (if not, i don't see use in going)...

even still, its supposed to be a 2day event now, winner on sunday as a joint winner over 2 days.... so do we have to goto both? can we goto both? is it 50 each day or for both? how can competition for a BRACKET style sport be won with different DRIVERS on different days? this doesnt make sense.

I love the idea, I hate the organization, I fear the events success.

we need people to attend to be success, but even as someone who has known about the 'proposed' event for 2 months, i feel its a bit sketchy at this point...

Hopefully we can get more info come monday... tuesday at the latest...

[Jordan T]

stock car racing and drifting dont match imo.

[paul kersey]

so if someone wrecks, and a spectator gets hurt, the drivers insurance has to cover the injuries? whoaaaa no thanks.

[shift-lock]

WHY SO MUCH FUCKING DRAMA............
Driftfest has fucked up a couple of times and shift-lock is sponsoring their event. Rob i will be honest with you bro, if you have some sort of problems with this bobby guy, there is emails and Pm's. I am not taking sides here. I do think you should let this guy promote his event, how would you like if some jerk goes around replying to all of your OSW events with negative comments about you as a pomoter. C'mon dude, i think this is making you look childish. Drop it bro, if people want to attend they will, no matter what you say.
Do you think the owner of McDonalds is going to start running around bashing BK. no they try to make thir merchandise better. You are not the only one holding events in FL, which means you have competition and this should help you improve your events and try to best the competition.

And you others why whining. if all you really enjoy drifting you should all be happy we are getting more events. No matter who the promoter is.

First lets get something str8 I'm not bashing his event. You all are my crew. You all are my friends. As A promoter there are things I know you don't. All I'm doing is asking questions that will benefit you. I don't want to see you guys get screwed in some way thats all. I would love to attend this Parking lot event. But this all sounds to shady to me.

Before these events even started Bobby contacted me with his Plan and offered me a "Drift" Race Director position. He explained to me his plan and I couldn't disagree more with it. A Drifting competition with 40 cars takes alot longer then I think he believes. You can't just cram it into an event already holding 5 other races on the track that day. It doesn't work out fairly for the drifters. Then I spoke to some locals around OSW who told me some stories, then I went on Karnac.com which is the stock car forum or whatever and I found even more stories. So my opiniong isnt that he's a bad guy. Its just that he hasn't proven himself to be a good business man.

Support him i'm not gonna say not to but he won't get my money till things become more clear.

[180sx-I]

AnthonyR... grow up
EVERY post you make is literally saying either
A: ty for support, or
B: f- off if you dont like it...

realize that I am a big fan of seeing this work out for our community and I have been talkign with bobby a lot and have been to 1 out of the 2 "points" events. the first of which was very good up until the end, where we did INFACT have a fall through on our competition. I don't know how the second event went. There is some difficulty with his plans, trying to fuse it within a 'set show' of series that are already established. But he is trying, I do give him credit for it and i am very happy. But we need to know about these things a MONTH in advance and not a WEEK... organization needs to rise about 200% if this series is going to succeed.

I am really looking forward to Tampa event and wanna invite people out but guess what.... I can't tell them didly squat yet cuz I may not be able to even go now if i need INSURANCE? (wth)

This concern is just because its 7days till, we get little to no details on event workings, and for something this 'advanced' as a competition event, we want to know things, and have time to plan and setup stuff. How is the competition going to be run? judged? by drifters? how many will be in comp? do we qualify? is there a tire changer? (if not, i don't see use in going)...

even still, its supposed to be a 2day event now, winner on sunday as a joint winner over 2 days.... so do we have to goto both? can we goto both? is it 50 each day or for both? how can competition for a BRACKET style sport be won with different DRIVERS on different days? this doesnt make sense.

I love the idea, I hate the organization, I fear the events success.

we need people to attend to be success, but even as someone who has known about the 'proposed' event for 2 months, i feel its a bit sketchy at this point...

Hopefully we can get more info come monday... tuesday at the latest...


I do want to go but i need all of the questions above answered first.

[RussianKid]

stock car racing and drifting dont match imo.

yea they do! they all go round and round and round on oval tracks! atleast in FL they do.

[Alchemist XL]

yea they do! they all go round and round and round on oval tracks! atleast in FL they do.

lmao ahahahhahahahahha:lol:

[tak]

What does the entrance fee cover if you dont have to have an event insurance policy?

[Igor]

I talked to bobby on the phone this morning, there seems to have been a misunderstanding about the insurance, The only thing you need insurance for is the car that you drive to the event, say you trailer your 240 on a dodge pickup, you need to have proof of insurance on the pickup.

They seem to have had alot of guys go out there before in stolen bikes/cars, so i assume he doesnt want a repeat.

There IS event insurance.

[buck19]

This stuff sounds even more shady. Like every event he has there's at least one person with a stolen car. If you have insurance on your tow vehicle it still means that your race vehicle might not be insured and stolen. Come on!

EVERY event i've been to be it Sunshine, BMP, Ocala, and a slew of other places only require a valid drivers licence or a parent/ legal guardian. Have fun going to Allstate and getting your tube frame drag car insured. HAHAHA. You guys crack me up.

I wont be attending.

[bobby diehl]

The insurance issuse comes from the Florida State Fair Staff. They had Stunt Bike Competition (but stopped it because) many of the brikers came in on the Highways with out tags or insurance on their street brike. The Florida Highway Patroll indories the ides of "Getting the Kids Racing off the Streets of Florida". Due to the high rate of chases that happen with all the danger of Street Racing. I am a School Teacher started TEAM SADD Racing (Students Against Destructive Decission) and believe having a place to race is going to save lives. I do not Know or care about the nay sayers that slam me that's their problem. I have been promoting for 10 years and have one of the strongest things happing with Stock Car Racing World (Go pick up a STOCK CAR RACING magizine and you see "Builting a FASTRUCK" a national exposure for my Series 6 articles this year alone). I see and believe in the Drifting style of Motor Sports. If you want to come thanks, if you need question answered call me. 813-817-7223. I have never screwed anybody in Racing (there is always two side to a story). If you want to email me (and get on the FAST Information Pipeline fastruckinc@aol.com and be up on all the info for FAST Drifters DST) is my address. But, if you have negitive things to say then I say to you. You try it . It is very hard to get something this BIG going. Step up the water HOT!!!! And the bashing all part of it. Hopefully we can put on a GREAT Event and the Fair Grounds will allow us back two or three times again this year. Sorry for the last minute ,but We just got asked if we would be interested in doing a Event. Not bad for all the start up problem we have gone through. I asked many different Drifter Experts to come on board an run the show. There were NO taker. My Stock Cars have their own Director who run their part of the show and the FAST Drifter DST will alsohave their own Director. So if anyone is interested in the job. Call me. Please keep asking question and that way we can all get better and get what we are looking for. A SAFE Racing Arena.

PS.
If you car is on a trailer besure and have and Tag. The FHP will be on display.

Again thanks to thoughs who believe.

[buck19]

I still don't see the reason for insurance. All that is ever asked for is a driver's licence. Could you post up a copy of the waiver, disclaimer, and agreement form. Anything that gets signed.

[tak]

Does it matter? If you are driving there uninsured, you are dumb.

[shift-lock]

LoL so Insurance proves your not driving a stolen vehicle?? Since when??

I Can insure any car out there as long as I have VIN number.....................

Its more like you should be asking for a registration card.....................

[2Valve]

Why do yall think I said NO THANKS, been there done that! I think the lot of you should get stuffed

[buck19]

LoL so Insurance proves your not driving a stolen vehicle?? Since when??

I Can insure any car out there as long as I have VIN number.....................

Its more like you should be asking for a registration card.....................


So I guess you can sue the hell out of them if something goes wrong since they don't have insurance. BAD business venture.

[Silvia_San]

yay fhp on the scene.

[paul kersey]

yay fhp on the scene.
to write down tag numbers, and profile people.
sweet.

[bobby diehl]

You guys kill me. The FHP are there to have a positive exposure to the General Pubic (something you may think of for Sponsors). They bring there their Roll Over Car, or their DUI Display, or their finger printing of the young kids. Some of you guys have a diffent view about everything. How do you drive a race car? And where do up plan on landing? I don't think it is on this planet. WOW!!! I thought I have seen every kind of kid walk through my door in my 25 plus years of teaching, but some of you slipped by the gate. Good luck with life. With your out look I hope you stay away. WOW!!!!
I will thank you now for not coming.

[tak]

No need for that. There are many people / places that get bad mouthed here. Possibly from past mistakes, or bad business practice. What we have learned is that calling names, and fighting back is only gonna dig you a deeper grave. Win people over by providing a good service...I guarentee you that if you offer seat time that is worthwhile to people, they will come.

I also suggest that you take a look at how your operation differs than others who are considered to be the norm. This insurance thing is a spin on how normal events are held. You should have probably seen this being an issue, based on the previous response to your series on these forums. I would outline everything in black on white up front, instead of announcing it just prior to the event. These things make people look shady, and like they are liars/hiding something.

I hope your series does well, but you have to play the game, cause around here your past will definately come back to haunt you, even if its all rumor. So be honest, up front, and do your thing...respect is earned.

[Just Dave]

to write down tag numbers, and profile people.
sweet.

Maybe you can take some tin foil off of your hat and cover up your license plate. Cover up the VIN too because the black helicopters have CRAZY zoom's on them.

[paul kersey]

oh wow, now its the moderator that only comes in here to be a douchebag.

[spoonfed]

this sounds like a sting operation:lol:

[hachibill]

oh wow, now its the moderator that only comes in here to be a douchebag.



hahahahahaahahahhahaahahhahha panwed

[Jordan T]

hahahahahaahahahhahaahahhahha panwed


+1

[_Charles_]

Hmmm....you need proof of insurance????

Okay...I have proof, but what good is it? 99% of insurance policies clearly state that they do not cover you or the car if it is being raced...

So even my car, with my kick-ass insurance, isn't covered when it hits the track.

And a trailered car needs a plate too? hmmm....

And to think, I as actually considering building a drift car...maybe not.

[bobby diehl]

Sorry for the you that may of taken first post wrong. We would love to see nothing but trailered race car come. We have had five drifting events or should I say gathering of the style of your racing (starting back in Oct. of last year). And when the Fair Grounds Safety Director said that if this one comes off we maybe able to have two or three events this year (this is what the ones that came said about wanting parking lot events also). I asked him if he had ever had a event of this type. He told me about the Strunt Bike Competition. And why they were dropped. I did not anyone to get in trouble or hurt the chance of you coming back this year possible. We are working hard to support your style of Motor Sports. The youth of today love Drifting. Now I do. I started with one FASTRUCK and blue sky back in 1996 with a man named Teddy Kempgins of Creative Motor Sports. Now affordable truck racing in nation wide. I have put on over over 250 events to date. From those who do not want a place to race. Then all I can say is GOOD LUCK. I wish you the best. If you are coming to both days it is $75.00 and one crew member in free for both days. Also we will make the Ocala Speedway event entry fee ( NOT the Ocala Grand Prix track. I stopped by there and Chuck said that they will not have any more Drifting Events there) $25.00 for those who enter this event. The $5.00 parking charge is from the Fair Ground on the Public side. If your a racer you will be on the paddock side and enter from the Orient Rd. entrance. The event is free for fans except for the Fair parking fee. Again if you are coming call me at 813-817-7223. Or E-mail me at fastruckinc@aol.com and get on the FAST Information Pipeline.
Thanks Bobby Diehl

[_Charles_]

Don't get me wrong, my ears are open, and I am hearing what you are saying...

I might show up as a spectator. If drifting becomes a monthly event in Central florida (maybe with multiple promoters), than I may get another drift car, but till then...parking a car in my garage for 5 events per year is not cost effective.

[Just Dave]

oh wow, now its the moderator that only comes in here to be a douchebag.

Maybe I'm not a moderator anymore. Maybe I'm a government agent sent to infultrate the ranks of drifting so I can turn evidence over to the FBI for their worldwide bust of emo fags who pretend they are good at powersliding cars around
:-o

[buck19]

We all want a good and safe place to race and what not, but we want it done right so it can be done again. Do you know why we dont go to Primus after one event? I guess OGP is out of the picture. The SPC skid pad is gone.

[bobby diehl]

Thanks for all the emails and questions on the phone. There are 14 cars so far are signed up and 8 more looking into it (coming from as far away as Jacksonville and Miami, Naples, Ft Myers and oh ya Tampa Bay area. And thats not bad for only two days. Remember that Ocala Speedway is wider than Orlando and Charlotte and has no real banking and a better X (wider) in the middle. Also anyone that enters the Tampa event get's in Ocala and Orlando for Entry Fee is waved (yes both events) the only thing is that there is a $25.00 pit pass for everyone in the pits. fans, Stock cars, Trucks and Drifters. But parking is free. I will explain how it will work at the Drivers meeting (8:30 for first meeting) at the Tampa Event. If you are late thats cool we will catch you up on the Information. We want this to work so come out and support it. It your Motor Sport.
Thanks again Bobby Diehl

[buck19]

So its free but you pay $25 per person...

[asia989]

so i gotta pay to race, pay for pit crew and parking wth, then provide my own insurance, i think ill spectate before i drive in one

[mranlet]

Do you know why we dont go to Primus after one event?
There was some red tape that came up, but it's been taken care of now.

OGP out of the picture
They're in the picture, but they have had a very full schedule with additional karting series recently. Don't be surprised when we go back.

SPC skidpad is gone
There are other skidpads in Tampa. Hang tight ;)

[buck19]

That's what I'm saying though. All of this issues have to be taken care of before hand before theres any red tape. See what I'm saying?

[Anthony R]

so i gotta pay to race, pay for pit crew and parking wth, then provide my own insurance, i think ill spectate before i drive in one

u don't know how to drift.;) 50 bucks to drift in tampa. 25 bucks to race at the other two evnets. the 25 goes for anyone that is inside, i.e. not out in the spectators parking lot.

[DrftDmn]

Well, The 2 Times I dealt with Bobby I had no issues, I have since not been able to due to family issues but Like Bill is saying...Just try, if anything its seat time..If it doesnt go over then ok. But just think of what happends if it does. Just give it a chance guys.

[Alchemist XL]

lol you cant spectate unless u pay the 25$ at the other tracks, but if you are gonna spectate, you might as well just drive cuz it cost the same either way

[briman06]

The grand stands are $15.00. all pit areas in Florida are $25.00 min. But parking is free.

[Alchemist XL]

The grand stands are $15.00. all pit areas in Florida are $25.00 min. But parking is free.

tell that to the lady in the booth who was telling everyone $25.00 or get out.

[NismoZ]

My thoughts....are right down the middle. Sounds very interesting yet lacks the details and planning. But I understand, it is difficult and is still being fine tuned.
Bobby: please, for the love of my sanity, take some typing classes. I think this may be why others are misinterpreting your posts.
Others: for christs sake, take some comprehension classes. It's not that hard to figure out what he is trying to say.

[Anthony R]

My thoughts....are right down the middle. Sounds very interesting yet lacks the details and planning. But I understand, it is difficult and is still being fine tuned.
Bobby: please, for the love of my sanity, take some typing classes. I think this may be why others are misinterpreting your posts.
Others: for christs sake, take some comprehension classes. It's not that hard to figure out what he is trying to say.

for real. i got the pwr steering on, so i'm ready. see you out there;)

[POLE-POSITION]

For anybody that wants to meet a real Naples Drifter (i think im the only one) i will be coming to tampa on friday night. staying at the Masters Inn. got anything for me to do Friday night would be much appreicated. 239-465-1607

[Igor]

For anybody that wants to meet a real Naples Drifter (i think im the only one) i will be coming to tampa on friday night. staying at the Masters Inn. got anything for me to do Friday night would be much appreicated. 239-465-1607

Ill be coming up with you. I also would appreicitae something to do friday.

[miss daisy]

for real. i got the pwr steering on, so i'm ready. see you out there;)

good for you, cant wait see how you handel your car out there kiddo! Now i have two guys to cheer for! maybe three if tony can bring a damn helment.

[briman06]

Any one who needs a Helmit call me 813-817-7223. I have the FASTRUCK Driving School. I can provide all your safety needs.

We are up to twenty four who have said they would be there. I am locating a tire machine and buying and air compresser.

Also I have hired a FAST Drifter Race Director "Mark Guilbalt". He was with a Team in Calf. A few years back, and wants to focus on getting the Division off the ground. He would like to have as many as possible to meet 8:00 AM at the Orient Road entrance of the Fair Grounds. He said if you are late go to the TECH AREA for inspection and he will fill you in on what he expects from the Drivers. Safety comes first.

Please bring camera's and video equipment to capture the day.

Also I am a Falcon Tire wholesale distributor ST 115 205x65x16 cost you $79.00. Call head must be prepaid. I carry zero inventory to keep your cost as low as possible.

[Ayes SM]

i dunno if this was answered or not, but is this all day drifting or is it shared with the other FAST sections, also which part of the lot will be used? will theyre be k-rails? cones?

[Anthony R]

no. only drifters, 8:30 to 5:00

[Skinnyjoint]

so call me retarded is all this going on in tampa? are the florida fair grounds in tampa?



here's the fdst 2 day schedule.

saturday 8th and sunday 9th

8:30-12:00 practice
1:00- 4:00 competition
4:00- 5:00 open course(freestyle)

$50 for drivers , you must have proof of insurance, and be pre-registered(for pre-reg you must call 813-817-7223 or e-mail fastruckinc@aol.com ) and when the driver registers they will also get a free pass into the expo hall.

$5 per crew member

parking is 5 for passenger vehicle.

[cantstopthishatch89]

yea in tampa.... this is goin to be fun im goin to check it out.... free bump

[???]

Sorry for the you that may of taken first post wrong. We would love to see nothing but trailered race car come. We have had five drifting events or should I say gathering of the style of your racing (starting back in Oct. of last year). And when the Fair Grounds Safety Director said that if this one comes off we maybe able to have two or three events this year (this is what the ones that came said about wanting parking lot events also). I asked him if he had ever had a event of this type. He told me about the Strunt Bike Competition. And why they were dropped. I did not anyone to get in trouble or hurt the chance of you coming back this year possible. We are working hard to support your style of Motor Sports. The youth of today love Drifting. Now I do. I started with one FASTRUCK and blue sky back in 1996 with a man named Teddy Kempgins of Creative Motor Sports. Now affordable truck racing in nation wide. I have put on over over 250 events to date. From those who do not want a place to race. Then all I can say is GOOD LUCK. I wish you the best. If you are coming to both days it is $75.00 and one crew member in free for both days. Also we will make the Ocala Speedway event entry fee ( NOT the Ocala Grand Prix track. I stopped by there and Chuck said that they will not have any more Drifting Events there) $25.00 for those who enter this event. The $5.00 parking charge is from the Fair Ground on the Public side. If your a racer you will be on the paddock side and enter from the Orient Rd. entrance. The event is free for fans except for the Fair parking fee. Again if you are coming call me at 813-817-7223. Or E-mail me at fastruckinc@aol.com and get on the FAST Information Pipeline.
Thanks Bobby Diehl



ok.... this whole thread has hurt me head to read but this post put me over the top...

i have two simple questions for someone to answer.... one i want to come watch... so thats 5$ to park and free to get in?

also a stright answer on the insurance thing.... why would a drift car that never see's the street have insurance on it? and what the fuck good would it be because your at a track if you crash... same as going to a 1/4 mile drag strip... its not covered so why does a car need it?

me = lost which sucks because if drifting was like going to a drag race track where they have a test and tune every week for 20$ I'd already have a car built for it.

[satanshatch]

PS.
If you car is on a trailer besure and have and Tag. The FHP will be on display.




There are alot of people out there whos cars are strictly track cars and are not registered. To them its like you telling your oval guys to have tags on their cars... :roll:

Sounds like a local event is in need. However I think what the masses are looking for is some reassurance that this will not go an hr and get shut down. And if so there should be some sort of refunded amount etc.

Skepticism is the issue here.

FHP on scene ? A DUI roll over car ? Child fingerprinting ? And all of this has to do what with drifting ? It's not a city saftey counsel meeting. I'm with Tim on this one regarding the police. Granted I have nothing to hide, but guaranteed they will be running plates.

[Kung Fu Grip]

ok.... this whole thread has hurt me head to read but this post put me over the top...

i have two simple questions for someone to answer.... one i want to come watch... so thats 5$ to park and free to get in?

also a stright answer on the insurance thing.... why would a drift car that never see's the street have insurance on it? and what the fuck good would it be because your at a track if you crash... same as going to a 1/4 mile drag strip... its not covered so why does a car need it?

me = lost which sucks because if drifting was like going to a drag race track where they have a test and tune every week for 20$ I'd already have a car built for it.


+1 on that one.

[TheBurntDrifter]

so whos going????????? i want to make the trip i jus want it 2 b worth it

[POLE-POSITION]

its more then a drift event(we are the only ones that will be using our track)......the pressure will be on. i thinks its a fair. so there be a shit load of people watching......plus where are all these so called track only cars. if you have one of these please speak up.

[box240mod]

<<<< track only car

i'm going.

there will be k-rails on the outskirts and i think cones inside. so we have course and the spectators are safe.

the course doesnt look 'super' exciting but its hard to say from the poor b&w version i saw.

and yea the other events 25.00$ bobby mentioned, tahts the TRACK fee for you to be in the pits, if you race or not, so its not bobby's charging you, thats the track.

Even though i agree, its a lil sketchy, Bobby needs drivers to come out and give opinions in person. the event i went to only about 10 cars showed and only 5 stayed the whole day. more drivers will help getting more organized, its new to him and he is trying his best.

[tak]

also a stright answer on the insurance thing.... why would a drift car that never see's the street have insurance on it? and what the fuck good would it be because your at a track if you crash... same as going to a 1/4 mile drag strip... its not covered so why does a car need it?


A drift car that never sees the street does not need to have insurance. The truck that tows the trailer that the drift car is strapped to needs to have insurance. If you dont have insurance on the vehicle, you dont need to be driving it on the road, or to the event.

I dont get what is so difficult to understand, he made it pretty clear.

[???]

A drift car that never sees the street does not need to have insurance. The truck that tows the trailer that the drift car is strapped to needs to have insurance. If you dont have insurance on the vehicle, you dont need to be driving it on the road, or to the event.

I dont get what is so difficult to understand, he made it pretty clear.



no he did not make clear... that's why i asked. he made it sound like you must have insurance on the car you are going to run...

as i said reading his shit hurt my head... plus I've never once been to an event where they wanted to make sure my tow rig had insurance... that's between you and the cops.. once at the track who cares.

[NismoZ]

A drift car that never sees the street does not need to have insurance. The truck that tows the trailer that the drift car is strapped to needs to have insurance. If you dont have insurance on the vehicle, you dont need to be driving it on the road, or to the event.

I dont get what is so difficult to understand, he made it pretty clear.
AHA!!! i'm glad i am not the only educated person on this board.
read mother fuckers!!!
...and yes, Bobby's typing makes all our heads hurt. but he's trying

[bobby diehl]

Looking for the man named Tray? Orange 240 Lambo door. SAR racing. Need his phone number. Student needs help with his car. Thank for your help.

[Jus Skott]

you must have proof of insurance...




*cough*


Um, What?



:lol: next thing you know is he'll be asking for a valid DL and MVR at this event too....












"MVR motor vehicle report"

[B16aTeggy]

Looking for the man named Tray? Orange 240 Lambo door. SAR racing. Need his phone number. Student needs help with his car. Thank for your help.


works for SAC? good luck trying to get ahold of him.. if u do. tell him jeff with the s12 want his turbo back.. i have his "cell" but he never answers or returns calls.. there are a couple of ppl trying to get a hold of him.. the're shop on 301 is now gone.. rumors say they open elsewhere but no one knows where

[McLovin']

im in like flin on this shit, its seat time and everyone deserves a fair shot imo, see you guys at 830 for drivers meeting

*edit* could i ask one thing though? Bobby, can you edit the first post into an organized outline for the day, and where to pay for the event since you know ill be there, but havent gotten to pay. thanks i am VERY excited about this event, hopefully all goes off with out a hitch, oh and a driver could would be super sweet, thanks
-Mike

[briman06]

The EVENT at The Florida State Fair (TAMPA FAIR GROUNDS) has been CANELED.

The reasons:

To setup the track was $65.00 to move the Jersy Barriers(concret like the ones on Interstate Hwy) and $65.00 to set them back when the events ends. Equaling $130.00 per unit. The Safety Director felt that there needed to have mininum 50 to insure that a cars could not get into the crowd. Cost $6,500.00
Also sercurity for the crowd around the area. $800.00 both days.
Event Insurance is $1300.00.

Total cost:$6,500.00
800.00
1,300.00

$8600.00

Revenue for the Event (how to pay for it):

1. Entry Fee for the racers. $50.00 for one day and $75.00 for both.
2. $5.00 per crew member in pits.
3.The Event was being supported (revenue from sales of the sasauge) by selling Uncle John's Smoked Sasauge (1000 6inch links to sell for $5.50 combo plate)

Problem is that to sell at the State Fair Grounds you must pay 35% of the net and and liabily insurance and a State Vender lience which both cost over $2,500.00.
This ends the revenue source. There are only 25 car signed up. It would cost to much for only 25 Teams.

We will still have the static show if you would like to show off your sport.
I will wave all the entry fees for both Ocala Speedway on 4/15 and Orlando Speed World event on 4/22. The only cost come for the tracks insurance $25.00 per person in the pits. You will get 4hours plus of track time with each event. I hope this will help make you feel better. I really wanted to Showcase in Tampa.:( Call me at 813-817-7223
We will have a meeting at the Tampa Show to get the ground rules down for the new Series. We will get it right.

[ANTHONY S]

DAMN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! when my car is getting ready, the event is cancelled!!!!!!!!!


GRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!! now is this or sure or its still 50 /50.................


IS It OFF FOR SURE????

[Alchemist XL]

The EVENT at The Florida State Fair (TAMPA FAIR GROUNDS) has been CANELED.

The reasons:

To setup the track was $65.00 to move the Jersy Barriers(concret like on the Interstate Hwy) and $65.00 to set them back whenthe events ends. Equaling $130.00 per unit. The Safety Director felt that there needed to have mininum 50 to insure that a cars could not get into the crowd. Cost $6,500.00
Also sercurity for the crowd around the area. $800.00 both days.
Event Insurance is $1300.00.

Total cost:$6500.00


Revenue for the Event (how to pay for it):

1. Entry Fee for the racers. $50.00 for one day and $75.00 for both.
2. $5.00 per crew member in pits.
3.The Event was being supported (revenue from sales of the sasauge) by selling Uncle John's Smoked Sasauge (gave 1000 6inch links to sell for $%.50 combo plate)

who are you????

[dudocius240sx]

Any one who needs a Helmit call me 813-817-7223. I have the FASTRUCK Driving School. I can provide all your safety needs.

We are up to twenty four who have said they would be there. I am locating a tire machine and buying and air compresser.

Also I have hired a FAST Drifter Race Director "Mark Guilbalt". He was with a Team in Calf. A few years back, and wants to focus on getting the Division off the ground. He would like to have as many as possible to meet 8:00 AM at the Orient Road entrance of the Fair Grounds. He said if you are late go to the TECH AREA for inspection and he will fill you in on what he expects from the Drivers. Safety comes first.

Please bring camera's and video equipment to capture the day.

Also I am a Falcon Tire wholesale distributor ST 115 205x65x16 cost you $79.00. Call head must be prepaid. I carry zero inventory to keep your cost as low as possible.


Alchemisto i think this will answer your post............ ^^^^^dude next time you cancel something let us know in advance, i now have to pay for the room i reserved.

[mranlet]

Falcon tires? Are those like Teen suspension components?

[Alchemist XL]

hialeah niggggga

[Silvia_San]

Falcon tires? Are those like Teen suspension components?
your so behind the times mike. i can't believe you some times.

[shift-lock]

The EVENT at The Florida State Fair (TAMPA FAIR GROUNDS) has been CANELED.

The reasons:

To setup the track was $65.00 to move the Jersy Barriers(concret like the ones on Interstate Hwy) and $65.00 to set them back when the events ends. Equaling $130.00 per unit. The Safety Director felt that there needed to have mininum 50 to insure that a cars could not get into the crowd. Cost $6,500.00
Also sercurity for the crowd around the area. $800.00 both days.
Event Insurance is $1300.00.

Total cost:$6,500.00
800.00
1,300.00

$8600.00

Revenue for the Event (how to pay for it):

1. Entry Fee for the racers. $50.00 for one day and $75.00 for both.
2. $5.00 per crew member in pits.
3.The Event was being supported (revenue from sales of the sasauge) by selling Uncle John's Smoked Sasauge (1000 6inch links to sell for $5.50 combo plate)

Problem is that to sell at the State Fair Grounds you must pay 35% of the net and and liabily insurance and a State Vender lience which both cost over $2,500.00.
This ends the revenue source. There are only 25 car signed up. It would cost to much for only 25 Teams.

We will still have the static show if you would like to show off your sport.
I will wave all the entry fees for both Ocala Speedway on 4/15 and Orlando Speed World event on 4/22. The only cost come for the tracks insurance $25.00 per person in the pits. You will get 4hours plus of track time with each event. I hope this will help make you feel better. I really wanted to Showcase in Tampa.:( Call me at 813-817-7223
We will have a meeting at the Tampa Show to get the ground rules down for the new Series. We will get it right.


No Comment.............................
:-o

[dudocius240sx]

The EVENT at The Florida State Fair (TAMPA FAIR GROUNDS) has been CANELED.

The reasons:

To setup the track was $65.00 to move the Jersy Barriers(concret like the ones on Interstate Hwy) and $65.00 to set them back when the events ends. Equaling $130.00 per unit. The Safety Director felt that there needed to have mininum 50 to insure that a cars could not get into the crowd. Cost $6,500.00
Also sercurity for the crowd around the area. $800.00 both days.
Event Insurance is $1300.00.

Total cost:$6,500.00
800.00
1,300.00

$8600.00

Revenue for the Event (how to pay for it):

1. Entry Fee for the racers. $50.00 for one day and $75.00 for both.
2. $5.00 per crew member in pits.
3.The Event was being supported (revenue from sales of the sasauge) by selling Uncle John's Smoked Sasauge (1000 6inch links to sell for $5.50 combo plate)

Problem is that to sell at the State Fair Grounds you must pay 35% of the net and and liabily insurance and a State Vender lience which both cost over $2,500.00.
This ends the revenue source. There are only 25 car signed up. It would cost to much for only 25 Teams.

We will still have the static show if you would like to show off your sport.
I will wave all the entry fees for both Ocala Speedway on 4/15 and Orlando Speed World event on 4/22. The only cost come for the tracks insurance $25.00 per person in the pits. You will get 4hours plus of track time with each event. I hope this will help make you feel better. I really wanted to Showcase in Tampa.:( Call me at 813-817-7223
We will have a meeting at the Tampa Show to get the ground rules down for the new Series. We will get it right.


Pretty simple, next time you plan to hold an event make sure everything is set before you go around advertising for it. Secondly, I really find this cancelation 2 days before the event to show that you guys are not ready to hold any kind of drift events. You are not dealing with sponsored teams here you are dealing with a grassroot sport, most of the guys that were getting ready for this event either took days off from work, were getting ready for weeks, or spent their last amount of hard earned cash on buying tires and doing oil changes for this event.

I now see myself paying $150.00 dollar for hotel rooms that i reserved, if you would have been kind enough to make this announcement yesterday or any time before, it would have been great. So dont expect me to attend any other of your events, unless you guys figure out what you want to do, and keep your clients informed ahead of time.

[paul kersey]

imagine that.

[nismocoupe]

wow, way to back out at the last minute

thats messed up. i hope all you guys get ur money back on the event and hotels
good luck

[shift-lock]

Its is simple. It is called PreProduction.

Working in the Entertainment industry now for over 7 years the one thing I learned that is more important than anything else is the "Preproduction". Which is pretty much solving all the problems before you advertise the event so no problems will arrise when the event nears. Figuring out Safety concerns would have been part of my preproduction phase in which all of this would have come to mind months before an event not the week before.

I'd like to think that you should of known these things, being in the business for such a long time now.

[importedhp]

aced

[Igor]

wow, are you kidding me.

wow.

[???]

lame!!


shady shit right there... so you really thought you could hype this enough to come up with like 10k before the event thru making people pre pay?

what the hell kinda shit is that

[HellofaPrzeFghtr]

Damn....

[miss daisy]

why on earth would a business man do something like that? Bobby i have spoke to you at the first punta gorda event and you were very sure of your work. what the hell happened? you had people wanting to go despite the rumors and you got these poor kids all hyped up on something you couldnt delivered, thats why we do things in advance, now do you realize the next time you want to hold an event these kids are gonna think twice? the potential of gooding something good and having a revenue in town, you blew and not only did you screw these kids over but you royal fucked your dreams of being on "top". You need to redem yourself and give these kids their money back, and crediting them isnt the way either. what a fuckin joke, not mention those of us who tryed to defend you, u made us look like asshole. Good job buddy.

[nismocoupe]

and yea i was at a buddies house a lil bit ago when bobby i think his name is the Guy who runs this called him. it is cancelled.

sux for u guys that were bout to go

[Silvia_San]

fucking fail

[shift-lock]

Just got this email !!!!!!!!!! I feel bad for the Guy he just hired!!!

I regret to say that the Action part of the Event had to be canceled. By the time the Fair Grounds was done with adds for the cost. We were at $10,000 to $12,000.00 . And that was way to much. We will still have the display Show part of the Event. We will meet with all those who can come to display their drift machines. For those of you who have made reservation call and cancel. We are going to wave the entry fee for Ocala Speedway on 4/15 and Orlando Speed World on 4/22. I hope this will help make the loss of the Tampa action event easier. I will make this program work! I have hired Mark Guilbault who was on a Formula Drift D1 Team in Calf. And he wants this to work on the Short Tracks and on the flat Parking Lots. If you would like me to tell you the complete break down call me at 813-817-7223. Hope to see you at the Events. The two events at Ocala on 4/15 and Orlando Speed World 4/22 will only cost $25.00 per person for the Track Insurance at each event. Each show you will have 4 hours of track time. Again I am truly sorry for the loss of the action part of the Tampa event. Be sure to bring your drift machines for display and sponsor ship networking.

We will see you all this weekend. Thank you for your support in making this racing drift series possible.
Stay Sideways!

[Silvia_San]

Hard Parking!

[asia989]

u don't know how to drift.;) 50 bucks to drift in tampa. 25 bucks to race at the other two evnets. the 25 goes for anyone that is inside, i.e. not out in the spectators parking lot.


dont even get me started young buck,u like to talk noise and dig yourself a grave:lol:

[truffle_shuffle!]

The funy thing is BOBBY is NOWHERE TO ANSWER FOR HIMSELF.. hat a fucking woman.. Bobby Diehl= FAIL.

[Alchemist XL]

he returned my phone call after i read thsi thread like 2 pages back and said basically the same as the email stated.

[briman06]

The funy thing is BOBBY is NOWHERE TO ANSWER FOR HIMSELF.. hat a :-o .. Bobby Diehl= FAIL.

Hi this is Bobby Diehl. My number is 813-817-7223. And there is nothing funy about your thing. Call so you can get the answers to your question. I hope your mother doesn't catch you on the computer. I will be at the Florida State Fair Grounds on Saturday and Sunday promoting from 8:00 AM till 6:00 PM your sport. Look for me at the Expo Hall if your man(:mullet: ) enough to get your question anwsered? Hope to see you there.:lol: Big boy Aaron.

Your trash mouth will get you alot of sponsors. I will watch for you in D1.:)

[Silvia_San]

Hi this is Bobby Diehl. My number is 813-817-7223. And there is nothing funy about your thing. Call so you can get the answers to your question. I hope your mother doesn't catch you on the computer. I will be at the Florida State Fair Grounds on Saturday and Sunday promoting from 8:00 AM till 6:00 PM your sport. Look for me at the Expo Hall if your man(:mullet: ) enough to get your question anwsered? Hope to see you there.:lol: Big boy Aaron.

Your trash mouth will get you alot of sponsors. I will watch for you in D1.:)
ima give you a big ole bear hug.

[Corner Worker]

and I almost made provisions to go....glad i didnt

[truffle_shuffle!]

Hi this is Bobby Diehl. My number is 813-817-7223. And there is nothing funy about your thing. Call so you can get the answers to your question. I hope your mother doesn't catch you on the computer. I will be at the Florida State Fair Grounds on Saturday and Sunday promoting from 8:00 AM till 6:00 PM your sport. Look for me at the Expo Hall if your man(:mullet: ) enough to get your question anwsered? Hope to see you there.:lol: Big boy Aaron.

Your trash mouth will get you alot of sponsors. I will watch for you in D1.:)


Touche' .....Are you Picking a Fight.. Im just saying ALOTTA people have invested money in comming and BAM 2 days before the track time it's gone..... Just dude I duno seems kinda lame to me.. people want results not promises.. best intentions dont cut it.. I dont care anyways Im moving to AZ.Drifting the Desert FTW.. But I digress.. Good Luck .. Too bad you already broke alot of people's trust..

[POLE-POSITION]

i don't really like that Bobby doesnt actually know anything about drifting. he actually said that drifting came from dirt track ovals......lmao...that made we want to stop him in his speach and ask him if he was serious.

[Puto]

i don't really like that Bobby doesnt actually know anything about drifting. he actually said that drifting came from dirt track ovals......lmao...that made we want to stop him in his speach and ask him if he was serious.


Caucasian drifting was started that way. :mullet:

You were thinking about asian drifting.

[shift-lock]

Hate to burst your bubble but he's right.

The art of controlling a over steer situation originated back when the original Pike's Peak races were run in the early 1920's and the road was dirt.

Well not ovals but dirt yes.

[buck19]

And they were sliding around oval tracks very soon after starting in the 1930s. They even slid around concrete road tracks here in the U.S. on victory laps in this same time frame.

[buck19]

But either way. HAHAHA I saw this coming. Total fail on Bobby's attitude as well. Calm down. You will not get anywhere acting like a 1st grader. You need to act like a grown adult.

And if the barriers cost that much to much why didn't you rent a CAT and do it yourself? We did it building dirt jumps by the railroads tracks in nebraska just so we could have a place to ride. it's not expensive.

You need to open you eyes and explore your options. You make it look like you cannot think things out and go about it like a 5yr old.

You need to slow down and like rob said, have the event ready to operate BEFORE you give any word on hosting the event. Then when you post on here list everything that you have taken care of so we know you aren't full of crap. Even permit numbers and Tax ID numbers if you want. You're going to ask me "why do I need to do all of that? Meet me up at the Fair Grounds if you think you're a tough guy." Well that's exactly why you have to do that. Your durka ways have ruined everything you thought you built.

[POLE-POSITION]

And they were sliding around oval tracks very soon after starting in the 1930s. They even slid around concrete road tracks here in the U.S. on victory laps in this same time frame.


so the sport of drifting has been around that long.....oh thats right posers think that oversteering means drifting. i thought there was more to it then that..hhhmmm i guess all that weight tranfer, side braking and shift locking is all just nonsense. connecting mutiple lefts and rights also nonsense. i guess Drifting is not a huge japanese motorsport....its just slant eyed bastards stealing the white mans fame. damn them oh and by the way STFU

[nismokid]

so the sport of drifting has been around that long.....oh thats right posers think that oversteering means drifting. i thought there was more to it then that..hhhmmm i guess all that weight tranfer, side braking and shift locking is all just nonsense. connecting mutiple lefts and rights also nonsense. i guess Drifting is not a huge japanese motorsport....its just slant eyed bastards stealing the white mans fame. damn them oh and by the way STFU

you think that drifting is not a huge japanese motorsport........ok :roll:

[POLE-POSITION]

you think that drifting is not a huge japanese motorsport........ok :roll:


ARE you seriously that stupid???????

[rexaholic7]

ok im tired of this. the point IS that it shoulda been planned a WHOLE lot better. and like rob said you shoulda had everything ready before even thinking of posting it here only to later disappoint us.

[nismokid]

ARE you seriously that stupid???????

sorry I guess I miss read it are you saying the exact oppsite? Like how the japanese people took drifting form white guys.

[POLE-POSITION]

sorry I guess I miss read it are you saying the exact oppsite? Like how the japanese people took drifting form white guys.


damn seriously i feel bad now......i don't like making fun of retarted people.

the sport of drifting had nothing and i mean nothing to do with ovals or any circle track racing...and deffinently not from any america racing.

do some history on the sport......DRIFTING......not the act of oversteer and countersteer.

[buck19]

damn seriously i feel bad now......i don't like making fun of retarted people.

the sport of drifting had nothing and i mean nothing to do with ovals or any circle track racing...and deffinently not from any america racing.

do some history on the sport......DRIFTING......not the act of oversteer and countersteer.


Dude who seriously gives a rats ass anymore. In the early 1970s sliding around the track was apart of american road racing to get more spectators into the sport. I'm talking about lemans and open cockpit LM cars sliding the track for a whole race. So as a spectator sport drifting started everywhere, but was more serious on concrete in the states for almost 40 years. Now STFU and Drive.

[RaidenKing]

damn seriously i feel bad now......i don't like making fun of retarted people.

the sport of drifting had nothing and i mean nothing to do with ovals or any circle track racing...and deffinently not from any america racing.

do some history on the sport......DRIFTING......not the act of oversteer and countersteer.

Who are you and what makes you feel like you have to belittle people?
The actual name DRIFTING was big in Japan as a motorsport and then Americans found DRIFTING and brought it over here, just like all of those other japanese trends that have been brought over. The americanized version is not the same as the japanese version and yes people have been sliding their cars around corners using different techniques before DRIFTING became the new pop thing to bring over from japan.

Regardless, I'm pretty sure we're all here because we like "sliding" "powering over" "side" "weight transferring in order to lose traction" or DRIFTING our cars.
I don't really think this place needs any more negativity from whoever you are.

This event didn't happen and thats too bad, lets just hope we can go get more going on over here so more tracks can host more events.

[buck19]

Please see my previous post. If you talk to Europeans it originated there. Stop beating a dead horse. It doesn't matter. It's like trying to find pi. Why is green not blue.

[tak]

Dood, you just fucked yourself so hard.

Right from the get go, you came off as being highly unorganized. You made an initial post, saying that there might be some events, using wording that made it obvious you had no clue what drifting was, other than a way to make a quick buck.

A few pages into the post, you let people know they will need insurance, and this and that. Highly unorganized. People vouched for you, I defended you, and while the majority of people hated you because of your history, you had a small following. Well you just fucked them over, I feel bad for you. People on these forums will not forgive people for what they did 10 years ago, letalone last weekend. Good luck though, you are going to need it.

[Anthony R]

Dood, you just fucked yourself so hard.

Right from the get go, you came off as being highly unorganized. You made an initial post, saying that there might be some events, using wording that made it obvious you had no clue what drifting was, other than a way to make a quick buck.

A few pages into the post, you let people know they will need insurance, and this and that. Highly unorganized. People vouched for you, I defended you, and while the majority of people hated you because of your history, you had a small following. Well you just fucked them over, I feel bad for you. People on these forums will not forgive people for what they did 10 years ago, letalone last weekend. Good luck though, you are going to need it.


i agree:werd: :verysad: :nono:

[POLE-POSITION]

Please see my previous post. If you talk to Europeans it originated there. Stop beating a dead horse. It doesn't matter. It's like trying to find pi. Why is green not blue. okay one more time the SPORT OF DRIFTING originated from Japan ....thats a fact why argue it.....oversteering, countersteering and all that shit...i don't give a fuck where they came from i didnt say shit about who started that....that would make no sense...i am a drifter...this is a drifting thread...this is not a oversteer thread.

[Kung Fu Grip]

EVERYONE SUCK ON A POLE!

Everyone stop and.. get ready for it...INHale .1 .. .2 .. .3 .. EXHale .1 .. .2 .. .3 ..INHale .1 .. .2 .. .3 .. EXHale .1 .. .2 .. .3 ..Okay Class I think that's Good enuff for Today,We'll Start Tommarow Where we finished today.

Thank you And Have A NIce B E A utiFuL Day. :)

[nismokid]

Who are you and what makes you feel like you have to belittle people?
The actual name DRIFTING was big in Japan as a motorsport and then Americans found DRIFTING and brought it over here, just like all of those other japanese trends that have been brought over. The americanized version is not the same as the japanese version and yes people have been sliding their cars around corners using different techniques before DRIFTING became the new pop thing to bring over from japan.

Regardless, I'm pretty sure we're all here because we like "sliding" "powering over" "side" "weight transferring in order to lose traction" or DRIFTING our cars.
I don't really think this place needs any more negativity from whoever you are.

This event didn't happen and thats too bad, lets just hope we can go get more going on over here so more tracks can host more events.


Thank you +1

[POLE-POSITION]

thank you -8

[Kung Fu Grip]

EVERYONE SUCK ON A POLE!

Everyone stop and.. get ready for it...INHale .1 .. .2 .. .3 .. EXHale .1 .. .2 .. .3 ..INHale .1 .. .2 .. .3 .. EXHale .1 .. .2 .. .3 ..Okay Class I think that's Good enuff for Today,We'll Start Tommarow Where we finished today.

Thank you And Have A NIce B E A utiFuL Day. :)

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