View Full Version : Having problems with tweeters...
BigTruckinMF85
03-12-2006, 09:26 PM
i bought a 500 watt tweeter today and for the first 10 mins it was fukking loud and then it blew.....i had it hooked up with 5 10"s and a 1000 watt amp turned half way up. i think i going to give up on tweeters cuz i cant seem not to blow them. ive went thew prolly 5 sets of tweeter and a set of horns...
gimme some ideas .......
TBSpyder
03-12-2006, 09:32 PM
500w tweeter????? Whoa, where to begin?
First off, tweeters need to be on crossovers, they're designed to play only higher frequencies and as a result, if you give it a full range signal, it's going to blow. Second, I've never seen a 500w tweeter. Look into a real component system (mid woofer, tweeter, and crossover). Combine it with an applicable 2 or 4 channel amp.
integralsgreen
03-12-2006, 09:37 PM
cuspid has 500watt tweeters :lol: :-o :lol:
SickVette
03-12-2006, 10:04 PM
I would love to the voice coil on a 500 watt tweeter...lol.
TJElite
03-14-2006, 08:03 AM
I would love to the voice coil on a 500 watt tweeter...lol.
I saw one that was damn close, once. I think it was a Gauss, or one of those studio brands. Giant horn loaded, titanium dome. The thing mounted in like a 6 inch hole, and weighed about 25 lbs. I think it was good for 400 rms.
So, 500w, autosound tweeter? Probably not. I've seen a couple advertised like that before, but they were piezo's...not really speakers. Good news is they do handle a lot of power, and don't need a crossover (impedance already varies by frequency). Bad news is that they sound like crap, and can kill an amp, due to the aforementioned impedance which varies by frequency.
BigTruckinMF85
03-16-2006, 01:54 AM
it was a BOSS tweeter and it had the crossover on it i think i just over powered it with the 1000 watt amp....
GradeA_TireFryer
03-16-2006, 08:29 AM
no way - wrong cross over point,
dc the amp -
TBSpyder
03-16-2006, 11:41 AM
it was a BOSS tweeter and it had the crossover on it i think i just over powered it with the 1000 watt amp....
Well, I see two problems right off the top. First being a Boss product...they're the bottom of the barrel as far as car audio goes, if you know what I mean. Second, yeah, 1000w is waaaaay too much to feed any tweeter or component system. And judging from all the stuff you have running off this amp, I'm surprised the amp itself hasn't shit a brick as well. What kind of amp is it? Is it mono, 2 channel, or 4 channel?
Like I said earlier, start from scratch, get rid of all your odds and ends you have running off that amp. Pick up an actual component system, preferably a decent brand. Then look into a good small 2 channel amp (or 4 if you want to hook rears up as well) that does about 50 to 100w rms per channel. You won't be blowing things anymore, and your system will sound 10x better.
1stGen7
03-17-2006, 03:39 AM
http://www.onlinecarstereo.com/CarAudio/ProductDetail.aspx?ProductID=15929
tweeter
amp is a 1000W DHD probly at the max running 800 watts its a 4 chanal amp the 5 10's are not bass speekers there 3 10 inch enamints and 2 10 inch salneums all mids
TBSpyder
03-17-2006, 10:59 AM
http://www.onlinecarstereo.com/CarAudio/ProductDetail.aspx?ProductID=15929
tweeter
amp is a 1000W DHD probly at the max running 800 watts its a 4 chanal amp the 5 10's are not bass speekers there 3 10 inch enamints and 2 10 inch salneums all mids
God that's too nice of a truck to be running that kind of system. I was expecting it to be in some 1970's rust bucket or something. Trying to help someone out who's obviously somewhat interested in car audio, you should start from scratch. Horns, bullet tweeters, and 10" mids have no place in car audio. And more speakers does not mean it's going to sound better. The factory speakers in the doors probably sound better than everything you have hooked up in there.
You probably could salvage the amp you already have (that is if it has a low pass crossover built into it), pick up a couple actual 10 or 12" subs to run off it. But the other speakers should honestly be trashed. Go out, buy some nice 5x8 coaxial speakers to replace the factory speakers in the doors. Buy a decent 4 channel amp to run them all, and you've actually got yourself a system.
I hate to say it, but basically everyone knows what 1 thing an audio hardware company is good for. Boss may suck in a lot of departments but they make some pretty decent amps and thats about it. stay away from tweeters unless its part of a component system, and always list things by RMS pwr..peak is so full of crap.
for subs on your truck you dont need that much power since its a smaller space (unless you have a big, extended cab sort of truck) since they'll be right behind you.
Just listen to TBspyder's reccomendation, thats really all you should be running.
1stGen7
03-17-2006, 09:16 PM
its a 2003 4 door f150 truck and here in polk county you dont have much people with bass its all mids and highs here im going to do enamints to but ima runn bass with them
TBSpyder
03-17-2006, 11:32 PM
its a 2003 4 door f150 truck and here in polk county you dont have much people with bass its all mids and highs here im going to do enamints to but ima runn bass with them
Enamints? Why? I'm puzzled.
1stGen7
03-18-2006, 03:11 AM
cause there loud and they sound good and i love my music loud but im not just running enamints im going to run 4 SOLOBERIC 12's or maybe 2 kicker 15's
integralsgreen
03-18-2006, 02:29 PM
cause there loud and they sound good and i love my music loud but im not just running enamints im going to run 4 SOLOBERIC 12's or maybe 2 kicker 15's
heres an example of that tone deff we were talking about :lol: jfwy man
TBSpyder
03-18-2006, 08:47 PM
heres an example of that tone deff we were talking about :lol: jfwy man
:lol: Yeah, gotta either be tone deaf or just never heard a good system. To each his own I guess.
BigTruckinMF85
03-18-2006, 09:47 PM
i had bass before and i got sick of it and then i got the mids and me and my cusin were the first people to get mids and now look at all the people who got it now
TBSpyder
03-18-2006, 10:16 PM
i had bass before and i got sick of it and then i got the mids and me and my cusin were the first people to get mids and now look at all the people who got it now
Huh? You were the first people to have mids?? So it was you guys who started the "mids revolution"?? :-o
integralsgreen
03-18-2006, 10:24 PM
dont wast ur time. jsut take a look at his ride. you should have seen the picture of his fire hazard wiring and 6.5s superglued to the rear window
http://www.tamparacing.com/forums/members-rides/294850-pics-my-slamed-dodge.html?highlight=muddy+truck
1stGen7
03-19-2006, 02:59 AM
this isent my truck we are talking about..and my speekers where not superglued im not a fucking dumbass... o and no ones system i ever hooked up ever was "fire hazard wiring" nothing ever cought on fire and i trust my wireing more then anyone wireing my shit anyways and when i was leting you do all my system shit if you wired it as soon as i got my truck home i was going to rewire it anyways i dont trust no one to wireing anything
Notladstyle
03-19-2006, 10:27 AM
500 watt tweeter?! I could kill small insects with a 500 watt tweeter. I could make the half naked chicks at ybor all die and put some clothes on with that thing. I could threaten to use it on my wife and actually get laid.
Or I could just throw it in the garbage because its useless. go buy a high end set of components and I promise you will never mention horn or tweeter again...
integralsgreen
03-19-2006, 01:11 PM
this isent my truck we are talking about..and my speekers where not superglued im not a fucking dumbass... o and no ones system i ever hooked up ever was "fire hazard wiring" nothing ever cought on fire and i trust my wireing more then anyone wireing my shit anyways and when i was leting you do all my system shit if you wired it as soon as i got my truck home i was going to rewire it anyways i dont trust no one to wireing anything
so the 50 ft of birdnested speaker wire tucked behind ur seat wasent ur doing? oh and sorry guys he didnt superglue his speaker to the winow he screwed them to the window, gess that proves hes not a dumass
TBSpyder
03-19-2006, 01:52 PM
dont wast ur time. jsut take a look at his ride. you should have seen the picture of his fire hazard wiring and 6.5s superglued to the rear window
http://www.tamparacing.com/forums/members-rides/294850-pics-my-slamed-dodge.html?highlight=muddy+truck
The truck in question is actually a nice newer lifted f150 4 door I believe. But the wiring and system is just as bad. If anyone is going to argue that some mismatched 1980's 10" mids sound "good" and a nightmare of tangled second hand wires is trustworthy...it's not even worth the conversation. There's alot of people in this forum who could help put together an actual system, but ignorance is bliss.
Notladstyle
03-19-2006, 04:04 PM
this isent my truck we are talking about..and my speekers where not superglued im not a fucking dumbass... o and no ones system i ever hooked up ever was "fire hazard wiring" nothing ever cought on fire and i trust my wireing more then anyone wireing my shit anyways and when i was leting you do all my system shit if you wired it as soon as i got my truck home i was going to rewire it anyways i dont trust no one to wireing anything
p-p-p-p-punctuation plz.
BigTruckinMF85
03-19-2006, 04:13 PM
dont worrie when i get done with my truck ill be putting every one to shame im goning with 4 L7 15s and 5 10" eminence 10 bullet tweeters it will be all done by a professional.
integralsgreen
03-19-2006, 04:15 PM
http://www.tamparacing.com/forums/audio-hq/294651-why-do-people-put-10xs-more-subs-then-they-need.html
puts everything in perspective
TBSpyder
03-19-2006, 08:22 PM
dont worrie when i get done with my truck ill be putting every one to shame im goning with 4 L7 15s and 5 10" eminence 10 bullet tweeters it will be all done by a professional.
Come on guy, truth is you're not going to put anyone to shame with a system like that. And half the people on this forum are professional installers. So think twice before you start running your mouth, you could obviously learn ALOT from everyone on here.
10 bullet tweeters is sure as hell gonna fuck up your hearing, i guess thats why you're spending time buying all this useless shit, tone deaf my ass, just plain deaf.
goning with 4 L7 15s and 5 10" eminence 10 bullet tweeters it will be all done by a professional.
Why are you going from 15-40 hz audible to 20k+? you have nothing in the middle, you arent going to hear ANYTHING, everyone outside will just hear thumping and a weird smack sound, but there isnt going to be any real music playing, dude are you just stupid or what?
and am i missing something? do you have mids or not?
Notladstyle
03-20-2006, 12:19 AM
and am i missing something? do you have mids or not?
sure he does, they are sitting on the passenger floorboard facing up. See?
Silly noob, they are free standing for accurate aiming control. And yeah theres no bezel around his stereo because only gay emo freaks cover up the metal sheath. WTF do you guys mean you don't like the ball of wire in the back? That monster mass of copper picks up so much alternator whine it sounds like I got a turbo HAHAHA you guys pay 2k I just turn the volume up.
The 20 year old subs in the back are high performance and can hit down to 100hz. Even putting out all that hard hitting bass they run off of four AAA batteries bitch. so STFU
integralsgreen
03-20-2006, 12:22 AM
sure he does, they are sitting on the passenger floorboard facing up. See?
Silly noob, they are free standing for accurate aiming control. And yeah theres no bezel around his stereo because only gay emo freaks cover up the metal sheath. WTF do you guys mean you don't like the ball of wire in the back? That monster mass of copper picks up so much alternator whine it sounds like I got a turbo HAHAHA you guys pay 2k I just turn the volume up.
The 20 year old subs in the back are high performance and can hit down to 100hz. Even putting out all that hard hitting bass they run off of four AAA batteries bitch. so STFU
:lol: searisully what garage bands pa system did he steal thes speakers from??
1stGen7
03-20-2006, 08:36 PM
he got all this shit brand fucking new a year agaio from a shop and mike ill call you later and tell you how to deleate this post cause this is to much shit talking
integralsgreen
03-20-2006, 09:07 PM
:lol: :lol: :lol: wow guys check out the pm 1stgen7 sent me
all yeah and my truck will look WAYYYYY better then that ricer ass teg if you wanna call it that
:lol: :lol: :lol:
anyone else find this funny?
Eclipse99RS
03-20-2006, 10:20 PM
You should have seen the pm's he sent me when i commented on his pos "slammed" truck. lol :jerkoff:
He was saying how his truck was better then mine. Would you rather drive that white pos or my 99 Ford Ranger? I know the ranger isn't anything great but its looks, runs, and sounds so much better than his truck ever will. And he also said that his "sytem" he wants to build with the solobarics, which he still doesn't know how to spell (dumbass), would be better than my all JL Audio system that i had in my eclipse. Wow.... thats all i got to say bout that one. I think he also needs to learn how to spell and maybe go back to 1st grade and learn what a period is.
dont worrie when i get done with my truck ill be putting every one to shame im goning with 4 L7 15s and 5 10" eminence 10 bullet tweeters it will be all done by a professional.
O and when you get that stuff installed by a "professional" if he really is a professional he will probably laugh in your face wondering why you would wanna put that crap in. :dunno:
integralsgreen
03-20-2006, 10:32 PM
last i knew his truck dosnet even run. he just makes himself look like an idiot every time he posts..searisully look at his post history some time if you want a good laugh.
scrapin_honda
03-20-2006, 10:51 PM
You should have seen the pm's he sent me when i commented on his pos "slammed" truck. lol :jerkoff:
He was saying how his truck was better then mine. Would you rather drive that white pos or my 99 Ford Ranger? I know the ranger isn't anything great but its looks, runs, and sounds so much better than his truck ever will. And he also said that his "sytem" he wants to build with the solobarics, which he still doesn't know how to spell (dumbass), would be better than my all JL Audio system that i had in my eclipse. Wow.... thats all i got to say bout that one. I think he also needs to learn how to spell and maybe go back to 1st grade and learn what a period is.
O and when you get that stuff installed by a "professional" if he really is a professional he will probably laugh in your face wondering why you would wanna put that crap in. :dunno: yes and the professional that sold you that rockford 3000 for 1500 laughed at you as you walked out the door.lol.
TBSpyder
03-20-2006, 11:25 PM
Well, I think we solved your stereo problem...it's just a short between the driver's seat and the steering wheel. Hope others realize the potential in this forum and use it to educate themselves and others instead of making an ass of yourself and only proving your ignorance. Good luck with it, hopefully you two can make it to the next meet and show us all what we're missing. :mullet:
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