View Full Version : Stage 3 or DBB 50 Trim
ryman546
02-28-2006, 06:51 PM
Just asking this question...stage 3 sounds like weak sauce...310???
3076R + NRGY Head + AEM + 1000cc Injectors + CM Stage 4 = Mad Fast y0
ryman546
02-28-2006, 07:21 PM
aem standalone? they finally made one???
When I talked to the AEM rep @ NOPI awhile ago they said it would be released very Soon . Thats was awhile ago
ryman546
02-28-2006, 08:15 PM
yah they on crack its not out...there would have been like a chariot in the sky or the parting of the seas, some shit to let us know.
Josiah
02-28-2006, 08:43 PM
AEM is rather expensive anyway, there are cheaper and better standalones out there(I run one myself)...just not plug and play for the SRT4....yet
CobraSpdRH
02-28-2006, 08:44 PM
Actually if you check Horsepower Freaks they have it listed on there website for advanced sale, I think around $2200. They have already tuned a couple cars with it, I would love to have one but I just bought a DBB 50 trim setup w/ DTEC so it's not in the cards for me at the moment. If you have the loot, I'd say go stage 3 with a 35/50 shot. Anything more than that hp wise and you get even worse traction than you will running 350 hp.
Skittle
02-28-2006, 08:52 PM
Any hp past 350-400whp is gonna be worthless on the street as is...UNLESS,you plan on rolling some meattttttty tires :evil2:
GsEclipse02
02-28-2006, 09:00 PM
AEM is rather expensive anyway, there are cheaper and better standalones out there(I run one myself)...just not plug and play for the SRT4....yet
correct me if i am wrong but i swore you said you run mega squirt ?
how are you going to say that is better then AEM?
Josiah
02-28-2006, 09:14 PM
easy, two words... open source, but I wasnt saying it was better(I dont know the resolution AEM has) I was just saying there are other standalone systems out there, some of which are definately better, the only thing that makes AEM big is plug and play compatibility
Open Source doesnt mean better ..
The money put into development of the AEM unit makes it superior in many aspects . Sure the megasquirt can do SOME of the things the AEM can do btu definately nowhere near all of them ...
Anyways stock turbo all bolt onsa clutch and a 150 shot = 10's IMO
Josiah
02-28-2006, 09:18 PM
what makes you think it cant do all of them? I have nitrous control, boost control, launch control, spark cut, fuel cut, need I go on?
Yes do you have traction control , boost by RPM/LOAD/RPM maps ? Progressional boost maps need I go on ?
Josiah
02-28-2006, 09:24 PM
yes, yes, yes, methanol injection control, and ANY OTHER CIRCUIT i care to wire in and any other function I care to program in, and THATS what makes open source superior...you have thousands of users constantly adding new/optional features and designing circuits to run them, there is a drawback though, a lot of it is still considered expiremental, I've never had a problem with any of the features I use, but I dont use progressive nitrous control, the features are there...but it usually takes a few months of people working out bugs to make them reliable
Exactly ..
If AEM was no good I dont think Titan would be running it or Scranton or any of the big name teams .. Shit Some of the Outlaw Drag Radial Mustangs are switching to AEM . They must be doing somethign right ...
Josiah
03-01-2006, 07:49 AM
I'm not saying they arent any good, they obviously are, but as far as a common street driven car, you wont be able to tell the difference between MS and AEM...except in the price range...and the fact that currently to run MS(for spark control anyway) you need to mount a trigger wheel(wish they would hurry up and finish the NGC code so it wouldnt be necessary)
ACR2NV
03-01-2006, 10:17 AM
Stage3....
ryman546
03-01-2006, 01:44 PM
i just want mad top end i dont feel like stage 3 can do that...based on the stage 3's that ive seen. I'm sure there are beasts out there...i do not want to run nitrous.
ryman546
03-01-2006, 05:30 PM
i want some actual stage 3 owners to chime in.
ryman546
03-01-2006, 05:31 PM
that own, possess, drive, have the pink slip, registeration, in their name.
Josiah
03-01-2006, 08:56 PM
why do you want mad top end? 2.4Ls arent all that effecient at over 6 grand anyway(with stock cams anyway), I agree that stage 3 will make all the power you'll ever use unless you get just plain psychotic, timeslips dont lie
ryman546
03-03-2006, 02:23 PM
srtforums...like 15+ stage 3's owners are having them break on them
scotty230
03-03-2006, 09:35 PM
why not just wait and do the twin turbo setup by fbm that they are comming out wiht in a month or so
slow poke
03-03-2006, 10:40 PM
i just want mad top end i dont feel like stage 3 can do that...based on the stage 3's that ive seen. I'm sure there are beasts out there...i do not want to run nitrous.
stg3 on hom has mad top end !!!! w/out hom it's not bad !!!!! the + with stg3 is NO TUNING !!!!!! if you can't put the HP to the ground, what good is it ?????
ryman546
03-03-2006, 11:55 PM
stage 3 < 400 hp....and now that aem has released the ems...mmmmmmm
dsm_90
03-04-2006, 04:41 PM
stg3 on hom has mad top end !!!! w/out hom it's not bad !!!!! the + with stg3 is NO TUNING !!!!!! if you can't put the HP to the ground, what good is it ?????
+1....I am not sure how much aem exposure you have had ryman but just to let you know it's scary due to the fact that I've seen ppl. who don't know much about tuning, had aem and tore up their motor because of incorrect timing adjustments and other incorrect parameters. S3R is definitely the way to go and if you have the head reworked a little you can have your desired 400 hp and still never have to tune...
GsEclipse02
03-04-2006, 05:34 PM
+1....I am not sure how much aem exposure you have had ryman but just to let you know it's scary due to the fact that I've seen ppl. who don't know much about tuning, had aem and tore up their motor because of incorrect timing adjustments and other incorrect parameters. S3R is definitely the way to go and if you have the head reworked a little you can have your desired 400 hp and still never have to tune...
get a good tuner not some joe blow who tunes AFC's ;)
ryman546
03-04-2006, 05:38 PM
yes i have money to tune it etc. just pretend i have money....yes its hard to believe. but do not want to buy a viper or some crap. I want to stick with the srt-4. What turbo would u put on the car if u had unlimited.
Stock motor = GT3076R 500whp/550+wtq
Built motor = GT4088R 700whp/800WTQ
ryman546
03-05-2006, 11:28 AM
traction? hah....
CobraSpdRH
03-05-2006, 10:15 PM
If you want dyno queen numbers, then stage 3 is not the way to go. However, if you want functional hp then building up a motor with spray on a stage 3 would be the shit! I myself am just looking to hit about 425 on pump gas and call it a day, taking it to the track every now and then
ACR2NV
03-06-2006, 08:49 AM
If you want dyno queen numbers, then stage 3 is not the way to go. However, if you want functional hp then building up a motor with spray on a stage 3 would be the shit! I myself am just looking to hit about 425 on pump gas and call it a day, taking it to the track every now and then
aka dyno queen/Supra-like roll racer??? :lol:
different strokes for different folks, get your lil quirks worked out? and hows she runnin now a days? ;)
CobraSpdRH
03-06-2006, 06:53 PM
aka dyno queen/Supra-like roll racer??? :lol:
different strokes for different folks, get your lil quirks worked out? and hows she runnin now a days? ;)
Car runs good but there is a bad seal somewhere in the turbo so we are pulling it off Saturday and sending it back to AGP to get it repaired. Also, I guess the map buffer board on my DTEC was one in a bad batch so every once in awhile (once every 5 starts or so) it doesn't pull fuel and bogs out.
So, in summation she still has some issues HOWEVER I know what they all are so the car is gonna sit for a couple weeks until everything gets worked out (turbo replaced, map buffer board replaced, new plugs and wires, etc.). I'd say within the month I'd be ready to run (maybe RUGoinup and I should give it a go ) :D Both of us from a 60 roll of course (esp. me w/ the 19's) :lol:
Mike K.
03-06-2006, 07:31 PM
I think stage 3 is the best kit ever..If your looking to be a highway machine..Hit up Xtremboost they make some crazy #'s on their kits and those things love the highway..Not what I would want out of a upgraded kit but if thats what your looking for a then I say talk to them. :D
ACR2NV
03-07-2006, 08:53 AM
Car runs good but there is a bad seal somewhere in the turbo so we are pulling it off Saturday and sending it back to AGP to get it repaired. Also, I guess the map buffer board on my DTEC was one in a bad batch so every once in awhile (once every 5 starts or so) it doesn't pull fuel and bogs out.
So, in summation she still has some issues HOWEVER I know what they all are so the car is gonna sit for a couple weeks until everything gets worked out (turbo replaced, map buffer board replaced, new plugs and wires, etc.). I'd say within the month I'd be ready to run (maybe RUGoinup and I should give it a go ) :D Both of us from a 60 roll of course (esp. me w/ the 19's) :lol:
hey give john a ring i think hes having issues with a seal too. He Boost leak tested and has a small amount of air escaping....
CobraSpdRH
03-07-2006, 04:11 PM
hey give john a ring i think hes having issues with a seal too. He Boost leak tested and has a small amount of air escaping....
I'll hit him up and see what the deal is. Hopefully his isn't as bad as mine. My side exit exhaust is like an oil slick on the inside it leaks so much so when the exhaust heats up it smokes pretty bad. I didn't even do anything to it is the weird part, broke it in on the highway for 100 miles slowly easing on and off throttle. Oh well what are you gonna do
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