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[chi-townsfinest]

alright imma explain the WHOLE story, this guy bridged my 2 12's on my amp, and it was kool like that for a few weeks but this other guy told me that wasnt good so i un did that and wired them each with a positive and with a negative. then my girl decides she wants to see the difference and turns and the bass and subwoofer all the way up then turns the volume up. that blew the fuses on the amp and when i changed those one of the 12's sounded like it's blown and the other one doesn't even work, i can't hear anything out of it. im a beginner at all this and im asking this ? so i can get good at it. so my ? is if my subs are blown now is there a way that i can fix them, and how can you tell if they are blown. is there anything that notice on the sub that you would know that it's blown or not? thanks.

[trailhoe]

your subs are blown and i would kick my girls ass if she did that i almost did this weekend cause she caught my car on fire but back to the point their blown.

[chi-townsfinest]

is their anyway that you can fix blown speakers?

[rangcrx]

push down on them if thay dont move thay are/is thay go down and sound like crushing riceCrispies thay are/if u take them out and the spider it burnt thay are......i would say hook another wire up from the radio and test them good luck

[trailhoe]

its not worth tryin to fix them it would be better to just get some more what kind of speakers are they

[chi-townsfinest]

they kickers, i tried to put some fosgate speakers in them but them bitches dont fit so im gonna have to buy a new box probably

[Clover8683]

the is a place in tampa that rebuilds blown speakers cheap, ill find out what the place is and post back in here. they completely rebuild the speakers, subs

[TJElite]

Probably Speaker Exchange, out on Hillsborough. They also used to have a place down in the st. pete / pinellas park area. They do 'recone' speakers, but I don't know if they can use Kicker components...most manufacturers don't like rebuilt stuff floating around that they didn't rebuild themselves.

I think I'd buy new ones, and confirm the wiring before you turn them on.

Toby

[canyouheminow]

If you wanna learn to do it yourself, pay a shop to do it the first time and pay close attention to what they're doing. Make sure your amp and subs are good quality stuff, in the world of car stereo if you buy cheap you get cheap. If the subs are blown you're way better off just buying some new ones.

[Notladstyle]

dman ur gf has no respect for precision audio equipment - throw her on the hood of your car and fuck her as payback. then email me and we can go to AVE and pick up new subs.

[chi-townsfinest]

i said to hell wit them kickers. i got two fosgate 12s now. what i still dont understand tho is what do the channels mean. like this amp is a 4 channel amp and that one is a 2 channel amp. whats the difference?

[chi-townsfinest]

and thanks to everybody giving me all this imput

[Notladstyle]

i said to hell wit them kickers. i got two fosgate 12s now. what i still dont understand tho is what do the channels mean. like this amp is a 4 channel amp and that one is a 2 channel amp. whats the difference?

kicker? fosgate? why not grap a couple Dual brand 12s as well. :p just joking, A four channel amp can control 4 independent which a 2 channel controls 2 independent channels. Generally, each channel controls one speaker but it is possible to combine two or more speakers to one channel but you will not be able to vary the output power between the two speakers on the same channel.

[TJElite]

Chitown...you need some help, and that's not a flame...we've all been there at some point. Go into a shop, any shop, and ask some of these questions. If the shop won't answer these simple questions for you, don't go back there again. This stuff is so much easier to explain in person, vs. over the net.

Also, try this site

http://www.bcae1.com/

There is all kinds of free info on here. From relays to amps to crossovers to LED's. He also sells a CD, but the free stuff is really all you'll need for a while.

Most importantly...have someone who really knows what they are talking about PHYSICALLY LOOK AT YOUR WIRING before you fire that thing up again.

Toby

[TIM TIM TIM]

yeah, fosgate=:barf:. as said above, you have a decent amount to learn (also not a flame). just go try to hang out whith someone that can explane and show you the differences.

[TBSpyder]

Most importantly...have someone who really knows what they are talking about PHYSICALLY LOOK AT YOUR WIRING before you fire that thing up again.



Best advice so far. If you don't have a friend who really knows car audio, take your setup into a "good" shop and have them look it over...and see if the installer can explain things to you a little more.


We could tell you how to wire things up on here, but it's probably going to only confuse you more.

[TJElite]

Not sure where you are, but my shop is in Oldsmar, and I'd be happy to take a look at your wiring for you, and answer some questions.

Either give me a call, or just drop by.

Toby

[chi-townsfinest]

i guess imma have to get rid of my rockford speakers now since everybody hates them. na but im jus starting all this so thats why i got so many questions, plus i wanna be able to get better and have a nice ass system one day. thanks for all yall imput tho. for my next system i want to have have three subs. what kind of subs do you recommend and amps for my shit to be the loudest on the block.

[TBSpyder]

i guess imma have to get rid of my rockford speakers now since everybody hates them. na but im jus starting all this so thats why i got so many questions, plus i wanna be able to get better and have a nice ass system one day. thanks for all yall imput tho. for my next system i want to have have three subs. what kind of subs do you recommend and amps for my shit to be the loudest on the block.


I'd recommend taking what you'd spend on 3 individual subs and put it into one (or two) really good subs. It will most likely require less power, less space, and probably be louder. Areas most people overlook are sound dampening and upgrading their stock electrical system. Invest into dynamating (or the like) atleast your entire trunk area, and throw in a high output alternator as well as upgrading your existing battery to something like a red or yellow top optima. Alot of people think they can throw a bunch of subs in their trunk, a big amp, and call it a day....but your system is only as good as it's weakest link.

[chi-townsfinest]

i want 3 because i like how the set up looks, with the box that is kind of curved with one speaker towards the front and a speaker on either side of it. if i were to get that what guage wire would i have to get. and would i need more than 1 amp for those three subs, or could i jus get 1 good 1. also what brand of inside speakers do you guys think is the best.

[TBSpyder]

i want 3 because i like how the set up looks, with the box that is kind of curved with one speaker towards the front and a speaker on either side of it. if i were to get that what guage wire would i have to get. and would i need more than 1 amp for those three subs, or could i jus get 1 good 1. also what brand of inside speakers do you guys think is the best.


What guage wire you get depends on what size amp you end up with. What amp you should get depends on what subs you go with. With 3 subs, you're probably going to want to look into subs that are dual 4ohm voice coils so that you can wire them up correctly. As far as speakers, it just depends on what you want to spend. I'm sure people could make suggestions all day long, but everyone has their own taste...so your best bet is to figure out what you want to spend and then go down to a couple of your local car audio shops and take a listen with your own ears. Look into a component speaker system (tweeter, midwoofer, and crossover) for your fronts, you'll have to invest into atleast a small 2 channel amplifier to power them though.

[kender]

i guess imma have to get rid of my rockford speakers now since everybody hates them. na but im jus starting all this so thats why i got so many questions, plus i wanna be able to get better and have a nice ass system one day. thanks for all yall imput tho. for my next system i want to have have three subs. what kind of subs do you recommend and amps for my shit to be the loudest on the block.



First let me say, never turn your gain on the amp all the way up, always have the sub rating at or slightly higher power capability than the amp ( like 5-10%) if you can't get a slightly higher rating then match it and by keeping the gain down just a notch you have limited the max power down so that you have made that 5-10% margin. Never turn the bass all the way up, never turn the volume all the way up with the bass turned all the way up. lastly never let your gf who knows less than you about car audio touch anything except your preset stations on your Amplified system. Ignore these guidelines if the desired result is to blow your sub.


The fosgates are just fine for a mid range system, are you going to crack your windsheild? probably not. but if your not looking to pay $500 or more per sub then fosgate is just fine. I have used them in my setups and they work out nice, you just have to use the reccommended size enclosure and make sure it's sealed with very little to no flex. The fosgate subs are factory reccommended with just about the smallest enclosures I have seen on most subs. So for a decent price and good sound ( not the best but you can definately wake up the neighbors) in a small package they work great. Some of the sound issues come from the amp, and matching the amp and sub. You can't take a sub that's response is up to 200hz and turn the amp filter to pass over 200hz it will sound like shit. also is the amp is an 800watt and the sub is 1000watt it will work but it's not the best match. make sure the amp is stable down to at least the ohm value of the sub divided by 2. most good amps go down to 1 ohm or .5 ohm stable and your probably using a 2 or 4 ohm sub so you should be ok, with the esception of running 3, 2 ohm subs in parallel then you definately need the .5 ohm stable but that would just barely be under the .666 ohms that the subs would have in the parallel configuration.

If you can find a shop that will share some knowledge, face to face, then take that knowledge and use it. read up on the subject from magazines, and on forums like this, but in the end when you have the knowledge to install your own stuff don't ever let anyone else install it for you. Your own gf abused your shit, what do you think a crimp monkey will do?

[chi-townsfinest]

thanks kender. but i have another ?. is it possible for one channel not to work. i hooked both my speakers but the left speaker works but the right one doesn't. i hooked the wires up from the left speaker to the right one to see if it was the subs that wasn't working and it worked. so what im thinking is that the right channel on the amp is not working. is that possible?

[GradeA_TireFryer]

Try Reversing The Rca Inputs Does THAT Change Working Sides?

[TBSpyder]

thanks kender. but i have another ?. is it possible for one channel not to work. i hooked both my speakers but the left speaker works but the right one doesn't. i hooked the wires up from the left speaker to the right one to see if it was the subs that wasn't working and it worked. so what im thinking is that the right channel on the amp is not working. is that possible?


It can mean either your amp's channel is bad, or your deck's output is bad. To determine which it is, test it the way GradeA posted.

[chi-townsfinest]

im gonna try that when i get out of school i do remember the rca cables coming out and i jus plugged them back so i hope thats what the problem is.