DGtrials "That was awesome!" DDay 8 thread

[mranlet]

AweXome! Thanks to a modified track layout, drivers staying on course, and overall badassness, we were able to bump the number of runs up from 15 at the last event to 25 (!) at this event!!

Thanks to everyone who came out and showed their stuff today, our Media people (MyCulture, Mark and Jerm aka floridaracing.org, OmniMedia and Ken Kemp), and the super-tacular staff at OGP for making this one the best yet!

DGTA is for real when we say that things are stepping up in FL ;)

[marksaccord95]

mark and jerm, aka floridaracing.org :)

wish the oval was ran, coulda got some sweet entry and exit pics

[Laurentz]

drivers staying on course

:P

[ImportLuv]

Seriously, I have a completly new perspective about drifting after I hitted the track at DDAY myself. I meet so many people, that i dont remember most of their names. I learned so much about my car's limitation, drifting, and even some techniques that is used in my daily commute. After 10 runs, my mind was so filled with so many experiences, that my head ached. I took a rest, and by afternoon, i went back on the tracks, and i was able to hit some turns w/o much trouble. From then on, drifting was FUN! One lap turned out to be 5 runs, and i wanted more, but i have to have a running car to go back home.

I'm the silver S14 driver at DDAY. I have NEVER EVER drifted before, not even on public streets or warhouses. This is my 1st event. And it was an experience that i would never forget. Felt like i lost my virginity or something, you know. To sum it all up, drifting is something.
Im not planning to enter DDAY 9, instead my little brother is entering. This too is going to be his 1st event, but he had a small amount of experience at warehouse drifting though. But anyways, he's going to learn something at that ocala track.
It was really a blast to meet everyone out there, I totally do it 100 times again, if i could turn back time. Thanks to all.
By the way, track time was great.

[tak]

is your s14 stock?

I watched you most the event, and kinda assumed that you were learning, and the progress you made from beginning to end was great.


On a side note, its funny how many people standing on the side talk shit. "too much throttle, someone take his car away" "doesnt he know what understeer is" "what an idiot, he isnt even sideways" lots of stuff like that. It wasnt even the people in the dirt either, they were making fun of the people who took their time, as to not exceed their limitations. Fuck backseat drifters!

[ImportLuv]

I know. Most of the spectators never drifted before, if the drift isnt D1 quality, it's just shit to them. When youre in the driver seat, NO ONE EXIST! Its just you and the car, thats all! Its usually the people who spends too much time watching the pros drift in videos and internet clip.
If some spectator right now, came up to be and told me im horrible, I dont give a horse's shit what he/she says. I learned alot, and i progressed that day.

Car set up: Tokico blue shocks and Tein springs, intake, muffler, e-fan, drycell battery. That's all.

Oh and i ran on OPEN DIFFERENTIAL!!!! i think i was the only guy with a open diff. So give me sum fucking respect people, gosh.

[_Charles_]

Suggestion from somebody that wasn't even there this time. Maybe next time, run 3 sessions 'DDAY 4' Style like you did, and then run 1 session 'Full Oval' style, utilizing just the OVal. It'll mix it up, and prove to be more exciting and alot more fun. Just a suggestion.

Charles

[ImportLuv]

Well to run a oval, i need power. KADE wont make through the big loop. Like at the last TerTech event, there was 1 KA, and he had a really tough time getting sideways on the big loop.
My next plan is autocrossing, then back to drifting.

[e30 gangsta]

anybody know who drove the oldskool 2002 bmw?

[tak]

i dunno but he was badass :D

[e30 gangsta]

i dunno but he was badass :D

man i want some contact info if possible.

[Matt Vassallo]

that was dennis from dg trials - atlanta guy - good guy - ranlet and erik know how to get ahold of him

[sil8ty]

Who was the s13 with the broken EGR? It began to sound like a mob hit....he was doing well though..respect.

Did that wheel get chewed up badly Matt? I saw your car driving on the grass trying to save it....

[JC]

Had a lot of fun. Learned a lot. Will do again.

[Silvia_San]

i will have a car for next dday.

[Jonas]

i LOVE how the event was organized.. i really think the oval is not needed... everyone can always improve entry speed and technique into that first sweeper... i know i was having some difficulty adjusting to new things on my car... but seat time > oval

[ImportLuv]

Yeah jonas, im unsure if you had too much grip on the front tires, or didnt turn enough on that 1st turn.
I had fun on the ride along.

[aphxero]

That event was pretty great. The new format turned out really well. Good job DG guys and all who entered :)

Turn 1 gets dirty fast but, well,... nevermind.

Oh and btw, some of you spectators need to clean up after youselves. You know who you are.

But yeah, AWESOME!

[Jonas]

Oh and btw, some of you spectators need to clean up after youselves. You know who you are.

But yeah, AWESOME!

i will give apologies on one table... there were people sitting under my tent i didn't event know.. i guess they stuck around there after i took my stuff and put down my tent.. and i just forgot to go back there to see if they left any shit..

[Pineapple]

Thanks DG trials. I learned a lot and will see you guys again in December.

[ImportLuv]

Oh and btw, some of you spectators need to clean up after youselves. You know who you are.
I didnt recall seeing a trash bin/can in the spectator area.

[tak]

I didnt recall seeing a trash bin/can in the spectator area.


Me neither. I threw out my gatorade bottles, but for real...people litter because they are lazy fucks, making them walk a mile to throw away trash isnt going to help the problem.

[Mars_302]

It was a good showing. There was an abudance of drivers I had never seen before at this event. There needs to be more gratitious tire smoke though! I really wanted to see the mustang get sideways too though. I wish I had driven my car to DDay, I woulda loaned him my back tires so he didnt have to try and break those wide ass 275s, loose.

You guys defeinetly got a lot of runs in, I couldnt even keep up with count anymore. I see the lights are up, so when are we finally going to see some night drifting so we dont have to be at 7 am? :)

Thanks to DGTrials for tossing the event on, even though you made me walk around in very fashionable yellow vest and made me have a spotter ;)

I'll try and toss up a highlight thread soon, but I was way tired that day, and I really didnt know any of the drivers this time around.

[teddy]

I see the lights are up, so when are we finally going to see some night drifting so we dont have to be at 7 am?

No way!

Keep early start time and get to stay later!

[Drumfunken]

10 random D Day 8 thoughts By Drumfunken:

1. a.)Not having the oval to slide sucked. Why cause even if you suck and have no power you can still slide that oval and feel proud of yourself. b.) You can always get tire smoke drifting through that turn so much more so then the others.

2. The way the laps were run was awsome we did get alot more runs for our money and that was a bonus so much that I got mad when they told me to stop cause I had so many more Ideas and things I wanted to try because of all the experience we were getting and then it was like having the floor fall out from under you, you're like NOOOOOOOOOOOOO I wanna drift all NIGHT LONG!!!!!!!!!!! Don't make me stop.. Ok sorry about that I just really didn't want to leave the track... they need to invent everlasting tires!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

3. How many drivers were there?????????

4. The dirt in turn 1?????? Ummm somebody's gotta think of something to stop that. In the advanced group 2nd heat the very 1st 2 cars ate it in turn 1 and Dirt and rocks the size of my fist were all over it. The problem I really had with this was Eric. I came around and told him of this and he did nothing. Now I can see if we were five laps in but this was at the very start. Had he stopped us cleaned just that corner with push brooms and let us proceed it probably would have stopped the carnation of that corner that took place that heat. I stopped slidding the turn just because those chunks of rock we just to dangerous to my car, and the sand was like ICe. Even though we were in the advanced group and we shouldn't go off the track SH*t happens and unfortunatly it happened to very first 2 cars. Then everyone suffered through those laps. Except For Rob F who was all rally style with it!

5. We didn't exactly get started on time just a little late. So if we could actually get started early or on time think about how many laps we would have gotten then!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

6. I 2nd having maybe some laps in the middle or something just dedicated to the oval. You can learn alot on a oval especially that one cause you can mongi through the str8s to connect and Mongi is a good way to help you learn how to exit a drift. Its car control!

7. Enjuku racings MIke Palmer is the Man. Big thanks to him and Enjuku for changing tires!!!!!! I really wouldn't be able to get through these all day events with out them.... (I only have one set of rims I like to drift on)

8. DG needs to figure out a way of placing the advanced, intermediate, and beginners. Cause I noticed alot of people in the beginners or intermediates who should have been in the advanced!!!!! I'm not the greatest and I was in the advanced(I know how to get out of the way quickly) and I would have gladly moved to intermediate to let some of the better guys in the advanced so we could have had some sick hotlap almost tandem action!!!!!!!!

9. We need a DJ or some music or something to add a little interaction for the crowd. Something other then the drifting to get people there so they can see the drifting and be like Wow.

10. DG Trial ROCKS!! ok nuff said anyone who hasn't attended better attend the next cause you don't know what you're missing!!!!! You'll leave with a smile gurantteeed. See you all dec 2nd.

[JC86]

how was it for the people not partgicipating. last 2 times i have gone it was so damn boring, i cant even get my friends to go anymore besides the ones that really like drifting.

[tak]

we need a taco stand

[ImportLuv]

I agree on playing music in the spectating area. Just put the microphone next to a radio, tuned to some country music (that's all they play in ocala) would be fine. No need for an announcer, or dj. What really would be nice is some of those Initial D songs! :lol:
I know this is just a place to practice, not event, but there should be some things that will make it a little more entertaining. Music and 1 grill is all we need out there.

[ImportLuv]

we need a taco stand
Those 86 crew in the parking lot would love it. :lol:
I really wanted to see the mustang get sideways too though. I wish I had driven my car to DDay, I woulda loaned him my back tires so he didnt have to try and break those wide ass 275s, loose.

I had a chat with that driver, and he was well aware of the understeering. Domestics arent easy to drift.

[buck19]

i was one of those spectators on the side being a back seat driver, but you know what? i gave jonas some advice that really helped him progress after his first session. all of his runs were taped. so when we got back we did some more critiquing and found a couple more things that need to be adjusted. so if you were talking about me talking shit, yeah i kinda was if you look at it in that light.

[Jonas]

Yeah jonas, im unsure if you had too much grip on the front tires, or didnt turn enough on that 1st turn.
I had fun on the ride along.


http://www.driftbasic.com/hosting/critique.wmv

anyone else feel free to gimme some pointers... car is definitely different from when i drove it last...

[ImportLuv]

The elimination of hicas probably caused your car to act different.

[buck19]

that and the crazy suspension tire combo.

[Jonas]

so far i have heard, get on the throttle quicker after the pulling of ebrake... anything else? what line do you guys prefer going into that first corner?

the last time i drove at ocala was back when the starting line was up by checkered line... so it obviously wasn't that fast going into that turn... this wa smy first time entering that corner from the pit

[buck19]

go faster. initiated at the checker line. haha that was nuts.

[Mars_302]

Those 86 crew in the parking lot would love it. :lol:

I had a chat with that driver, and he was well aware of the understeering. Domestics arent easy to drift.


Its not as bad as anyone makes it out to be. He had a v6 mustang, which means his car isnt as nose heavy as a v8 version, so its really not as bad. But with him having a 275 on a car that only makes 190 hp stock, he is going to have a hard time getting it to break lose. That and didnt look like he was aggressive overall period with the car.

[ImportLuv]

Oh. I didnt see him run because i was getting my car ready.
Buck, i think jonas was fast enough. Its seems like he had too much grip up front. Even vang/tyler was able to pull that turn in the KADE.

[Silvia_San]

not too much front grip, too much rear grip combined with him prob being not used to the new setup.

[Drumfunken]

so far i have heard, get on the throttle quicker after the pulling of ebrake... anything else? what line do you guys prefer going into that first corner?

the last time i drove at ocala was back when the starting line was up by checkered line... so it obviously wasn't that fast going into that turn... this wa smy first time entering that corner from the pit



Just follow the red enjuku marks!!!!

[sidehappyside]

jonas, i Figured out that turn 1 is better going in 3rd gear, and downshifting to 2nd as you slow down. it worked out great for me at the end of the day

[e30 gangsta]

jonas, i Figured out that turn 1 is better going in 3rd gear, and downshifting to 2nd as you slow down. it worked out great for me at the end of the day

thats how i do it. go in shift weight. down shift to 2nd and continue the course. Also sometime i would ebrake on the str8 to get sideways before the turn.

[mranlet]

10 random D Day 8 thoughts By Drumfunken:
1. a.)Not having the oval to slide sucked...
Yeah, the oval is definitely a cool turn, but if we are to start where we have been then it's down to the choive of doing the oval turn and getting less track time, or skipping the oval and getting more shots at the other 6 turns. The only way I see to do the oval safely is to move the start line up far enough that people have enough space to slow down before lining up again, like where the checkerd line is, or on to the connector portion of the oval. If we move the start up too much then we run the risk of making turn 1 or another corner undriftable, and that is a much more technical turn than the oval.

I know that there were several people who were having overheating problems, and for them the leisurely drive through the return lane and into line was a car-saver.

The single-file method seems to be superior for getting the maximum number of laps, expecially now that so many of you guys are getting really good. The only problem with it is that we have to sacrafice a turn to make it work safely as of right now.

2. ...Ok sorry about that I just really didn't want to leave the track... they need to invent everlasting tires!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
LOL! Better that you didn't want to leave than not being able to wait to go :D We had to cut the event short due to OGP running another event the following day - they still had to have time to clean up and prepare for that. We would have loved to run an event into the night and may try to arrange something like that in the future. As for the tires, sounds like another challenge for Kumho!


3. How many drivers were there?????????
32!!!!!!!!!! Plus the few Enjuku folk and Dennis's 2002 and my Legacy on occasion. We managed to break even, which is really all we need to make them financially worthwhile. Would people be willing to pay a few extra bucks and have the driver cap at 30?

4. The dirt in turn 1?????? The problem I really had with this was Eric... I came around and told him of this and he did nothing... Then everyone suffered through those laps.
The obvious answer would be "stay on the track", but that's way easier said than done! There was some talk about us laying down some blue and white curbing on the inside and outside edges, and maybe at the fork between the bus-stop chicane and the straight route - I will follow up on this and see how feasible it would be to do so. Curbing wouldn't be as soft as bails of cotton or the Pillsbury Doughboy, but it would at least help define the inner and outer edges of the track and give drivers an extra foot of grip to help them stay in line.

If not curbing, maybe the plastic k-rail stuff? It would be softer on a car than haybails, but tougher than soil. Dennis came up with the idea to place some cones along the inside to help define the inner edge - did this help anybody?

As for Erik being an asshole, it's just how he comes across sometimes, but the lack of sweeping on the track wasn't solely his fault - we usually determine when to give the track a blow job based on driver feedback and what our flaggers say. I would often ask whoever is at the front of the line if they would rather go and loose some time or just drift through it, and most often people said "keep going". Additional laps aren't really all that worth it if you can only drift a few of the turns...

The dirt issue is going to be a big focus for next event.

5. We didn't exactly get started on time just a little late.
We got started almost an hour late :(, mostly due to tech taking longer than expected. I had set up a Pre-Tech at XAT Racing, and the 3 drivers that showed up just rolled through the gate. Hopefully by next event we can do pre-tech the day before at some other locations (maybe at Enjuku or Terr-Tech in addition to XAT?). The more methodical and quickly tech can be run the quicker we can get you guys on the track. Better and quicker tech inspections will be in place by the next event for sure!

The 1st parade lap was also quicker than the normal walk-through, which is redundant for returning drivers. At another track where there may be potholes or bumps a walk-through is pretty much mandatory, but seeing as how OGP is a go-kart track (and the karts would explode upon meeting a pothole), it isn't all that necessary.

6. I 2nd having maybe some laps in the middle or something just dedicated to the oval. You can learn alot on a oval especially that one cause you can mongi through the str8s to connect and Mongi is a good way to help you learn how to exit a drift...
I would argue that coming out of a drift smoothly is more challenging than disguising extra snap-back with some Mangi, but that's somewhat besides the point. Mangi is fine as long as it's not 25 feet away from spectators. If someone with enough speed lost it down the straight it would most likely result in a big fence repair bill and a huge rise in insurance rates.

Throughout the day we were discussing ways to run the oval, and it will probably make a return in the future.

7. Mike Palmer = baller...Enjuku changing tires!!! I really wouldn't be able to get through these all day events with out them.... (I only have one set of rims I like to drift on)
Tip them well dude-brah, it's extremely gracious for them to provide the tire service. I too have a man-crush on Mike Palmer ;)

8. DG needs to figure out a way of placing the advanced, intermediate, and beginners... ...Advanced getting close, hotlapping
We were going to try and group drivers by skill levels, but there were so many new people that we didn't know who to put where. As for you being placed in advanced, Erik and I agreed that you would handle it. Like competition, being bumped up to a higher skill class can really push you to excell as well.

9. We need a DJ or some music or something to add a little interaction for the crowd.
We did have a radio station come out for a short time during one of the past DDays, and most stations will come out to pretty much anything that will have 100+ people.

10. DG Trial ROCKS!! ok nuff said anyone who hasn't attended better attend the next cause you don't know what you're missing!!!!! You'll leave with a smile gurantteeed. See you all dec 2nd.
Thank you for the compliments, and all the feedback!!!

DG and I will do everything we can do to benefit the drifting community! The tweaking to make DDay better is just the tip of the iceberg when it comes to the future of Drift in the SouthEast - FL drift cannot be stopped!!

[steve]

good time's as allways
if the next event is ran the same as this i'll drive it

[paul kersey]

importluv, your headlights are soooo fucking bright.

[Jonas]

mike, just remember for the next event... we will take a poll

Seat time or Oval...

even if we do start the line at the checkered line, we used to do it before.. no problems going into turn 1...

[Pineapple]

mike, just remember for the next event... we will take a poll

Seat time or Oval...

even if we do start the line at the checkered line, we used to do it before.. no problems going into turn 1...
Yeah, but I was flooring it from the start we had now until turn 1 and all I got was mid-high 3rd gear. If we move the starting line up, us slow people can't do as cool things as you people with power (for the 1st turn). Pep talks in between laps really pumps you up, because you come in after a lap, wait like 20 seconds, and you're going again. Great amount of seat time. A slow start, but made up for it later (More possible seat time). Thanks again.

[ImportLuv]

Fu*k yeah that was great. Done with 1 lap, then 30 seconds, youre at it again. I loved it.
importluv, your headlights are soooo fucking bright.
:lol: Thanks. The funny thing is that they were my low beam.

[mranlet]

mike, just remember for the next event... we will take a poll

Seat time or Oval...

even if we do start the line at the checkered line, we used to do it before.. no problems going into turn 1...

We just need enough space for people to slow down after drifting the oval.

Entry speeds into turn 1 averaged in the mid-to-high 50-mph range (With JT clocking the fastest speeds out of everyone according to radar-gun toting Tony Schulz). Even people with low-power cars seemed to manage before.

When we had small heats of only 3 or 4, we were sometimes just sending the driver right on through the start gate without stopping. If we did 10 heats of 3 drivers, maybe we could do something like a staging box: this means that we still retain a starting line, but having it serve more as a "checkpoint" where we either wave a green flag to signal the driver coming off the oval that the coast is clear, or yellow/red the driver if there is a line of cars or the track isn't clear. Under green, the driver could just blow right on through the checkpoint, and on yellow/red, they could slow down or stop there to wait for traffic and maintain spacing. If properly executed, that may allow for the oval, turn 1, and max seat time...? Any thoughts?

[Silvia_San]

sounds good mike, i can't wait to drive in december.

[paul kersey]

:lol: Thanks. The funny thing is that they were my low beam.
they were pretty much melting my face in my rear view mirror.
luckily i was driving way faster.

[ImportLuv]

what car were you driving? All i remember was me, the car, and the track.

[Pineapple]

When we had small heats of only 3 or 4, we were sometimes just sending the driver right on through the start gate without stopping. If we did 10 heats of 3 drivers, maybe we could do something like a staging box: this means that we still retain a starting line, but having it serve more as a "checkpoint" where we either wave a green flag to signal the driver coming off the oval that the coast is clear, or yellow/red the driver if there is a line of cars or the track isn't clear. Under green, the driver could just blow right on through the checkpoint, and on yellow/red, they could slow down or stop there to wait for traffic and maintain spacing. If properly executed, that may allow for the oval, turn 1, and max seat time...? Any thoughts?
I think the way we did it was perfect for the optimum amount of seat time. The only thing I could see you doing differently would be getting started on time, and a little more organized run grouping (I think I ran with the advanced guys when I was in group 4?) Turn 1 was like half the oval with a 2nd apex anyway. Great job keeping your cool though, it looked pretty hectic.

[Silvia_San]

what car were you driving? All i remember was me, the car, and the track.
on the highway on the way back from dday, flat black coupe, remember i told you it was dr. octagon. and i thought it was laurence in the passenger seat.

[ImportLuv]

SilviaSan, that Avatar of yours is 100% you. I laughed so hard when i saw that. its fat, white(no offense), and dances just like you. :lmao: Keep that avatar.
That was him, oh cool shit dude. I see him once awhile on 118 and 66th st.

[ryojikaji143]

Can't make that oval with a KA? hahahhahaha are you kidding me? The KA is more than enough. It sounds like you guys had an awesome event!!! Nice work Mike, I can't wait to hear your ideas and share a few of mine ;-)


-Matt

[Drumfunken]

When we had small heats of only 3 or 4, we were sometimes just sending the driver right on through the start gate without stopping. If we did 10 heats of 3 drivers, maybe we could do something like a staging box: this means that we still retain a starting line, but having it serve more as a "checkpoint" where we either wave a green flag to signal the driver coming off the oval that the coast is clear, or yellow/red the driver if there is a line of cars or the track isn't clear. Under green, the driver could just blow right on through the checkpoint, and on yellow/red, they could slow down or stop there to wait for traffic and maintain spacing. If properly executed, that may allow for the oval, turn 1, and max seat time...? Any thoughts?


I think you hit the nail RIght on the head!!! if properly excuted that would be the gold mine!!!!!!

[paul kersey]

yeah thats me, i see your car all the time, thought it was someone else though.
and that was steve, not laurentz.

[Silvia_San]

are you at the chevron a lot on park blvd in seminole? i see a flat black s13 coupe that looks a lot like yours there all the time.

[paul kersey]

i worked there.
friday was my last day.

[tak]

I hope you went out in style. "FUCK YOU, FUCK YOU, FUCK YOU, YOU'RE COOL, AND FUCK YOU!"

[paul kersey]

i quit jobs on a very regular basis
i burn bridges like a motherfucker everywhere too.

[Jonas]

so what speed was everyone entering in? shifting into 3rd and then completely getting on the brakes doesn't qualify as entering in 3rd...

[aphxero]

3rd gear 5-6k rpm. no lift.

[Pineapple]

3rd gear 5-6k rpm. no lift.
+ 1

[suaknee]

This event was great, even though I'm not driving YET, I think FL is representin hardcore, its nice meeting all of you, all of you guys are really inspiring, and gettin awesome each time I see ya drive. Im doin my thing with My Culture, (thanks Mike for the shout out) and thanks for everybody supporting that, but I can't wait to get in the driver seat myself. I'm workin on it. So I'm curious what Dgtrials will do in the future, I love the track, and can't wait to take it on. aight well thanks for readin this newbish talk. latah.

[Foilman]

I manned the radar gun for a whole round of groups toward the end of the day. Most people entered 1 at 50-55. For reference, Mattback in his stockish KA, giving it all it had, was doing 55. A few guys where hitting upper 50s-low 60s. The fastest entries I measured was 68.

-Tony