this just in - dg trials cares not about florida ??

[Matt Vassallo]

in talking to eric jacobs about drift events in florida :

the social moth (10:48:14 PM): how come you guys never have competitions
thoraxe S13 (10:50:11 PM): Were having one this weekend nitwit
the social moth (10:50:31 PM): not in florida
thoraxe S13 (11:10:18 PM): So?
the social moth (11:19:24 PM): i dont care about outside of fl
the social moth (11:19:27 PM): when are you doing anything for fl
thoraxe S13 (11:43:54 PM): When you start caring about outside of fl


bring on more ter tech events!!!

[sucio]

its funny cause i remember when i was in the process of doing the first lakeland event. i was told and i quote.

"why do you want to put on your own drift event. I have scheduled for an event every month in 2005"

here is 2005 WTF are they ..

[ZENKone]

fuck em.
i wish i had the money to open events for all u cool people.
but ohh well..maybeee they will relizeeee sooo many drifters r in floridaaa..soo much money they could make..anywayz. peaceee

[Silvia_San]

damn mike looks like they fucked you over. that sux.

[Anthony Macaluso]

That's gay. I think he's been bitter ever since that one dday where nobody showed up (dday5?). That was the best dday ever though...I was out of tires by 3. :crack:

[hachibill]

well, he's gonna go where he can put on he best events and have the best turn outs. it also has alot to do with locations, and i think fl sucks for venues. maybe he's haveing better luck outside fl? either way it sucks, but i have fun at the ter tech events so as long as we have them we should be good. but DG did bring the first events to FL and i thank them for doing all they did,, could they have done things different.....prolly, but hind site is always 20/20. bottom line is FL needs a track specifically built for drifting. period. then i see things getting alot better.

[vincel]

FL needs a big slab of concrete.....like 20 square acers, maybe more

[mranlet]

I think this may have been taken a bit out of context. Unless I'm gravely mistaken, Erik is in charge of setting up events in the Southeast (Georgia, etc) and keeping everything in line nationwide whereas I (with much help from Kyle) am DGtrials in Florida - we set up events, run them, and try to make sure that people have a good time. DDays have pretty much always been Kyle's baby (early DDay's were possible with lots of Secret Services and Mattback help also), and Erik has essentially left us alone to set up to do whatever.

DG and Ter-Tech aren't enemies by any means. I'm glad that there is another orginization in Florida anyway, a little competition is a healthy thing and the TT guys couldn't be cooler.

If DG really didn't care about Florida then we wouldn't have events here. I do believe actions speak louder than words, especially those spoken in a casual IM conversation.

[Epstein]

Oh man, talk about out of context. A sarcastic, offhanded comment does not, in any way, fully represent someones stance on an issue.

[Matt Vassallo]

well, taken from the president of the organization, i don't like how he simple doesn't care about the florida dealings at all.

anlet, whny dont you turn this around, and get a bettter venue and good events and some good things going for dg in 2006 ?

[mranlet]

well, taken from the president of the organization, i don't like how he simple doesn't care about the florida dealings at all.

anlet, whny dont you turn this around, and get a bettter venue and good events and some good things going for dg in 2006 ?

Does it need to be "turned around"? Aren't DDays good events?

In the few weeks that I've had to work on big plans, I've already jumped into a lot of projects, and there will be a lot of good changes for '06. I can't spoil anything yet, but just think more of the good and less of the bad ;)

Erik really is a good guy and really does work really hard to bring Drift nationwide on a grassroots level. He has been criticized for coming across like an asshole or sketchy, but he really isn't. He does care about FL a lot - it's a big portion of the company's dealings and FL is a strong community within the drifting world. I'm sure he didn't know at the time that his smart-ass remarks over AIM would be posted on a major forum either :lol:

[FreeThinker]

Yea, I think that's more than a little out of context, althought I do remember that everyone in Florida are a bunch of 'fucktards' according to Erik on the DGTrials forums..


But Forums... IM's....... blah, dealing with people in person, and their real actions are what matters.


I wont hide that fact that Erik has pissed me off on a few occasions, especially with his habit of calling peoples sponsors/insurers behind their backs, and trying to burn them, or his efforts to ban some rad suspension ideas I have for pro drift cars. But Erik has also been a cool friend at times and overall I think has good intentions with his own business.


We all know you cant please everyone all the time and plenty of people out there don't exactly like me, but that's the tradeoff for not kissing everyones ass.


-Sean

PS - Mike Ranlet, the ball is now in your hands to make DDay's better, may the force be with you!

[aphxero]

FL is a bunch of fucktards. It's hard o get anyone together for any reason. There aren't many venues, the cops are fucking nazis, everyone is poor, basically everyone who isn't a drifter hates it, I could go on and on about why FL is a bad place to be a drifter.

I'll bet it's pretty hard to set up events here. If it was really easy there's be events every weekend like on the west coast.

Btw, this is my own point of view and isn't fact by any means.

[hachibill]

^ hit the nail on the head.......Florida= FAIL.

[Ichi-go]

DG had events once a month. Then nobody wanted to show up and nobody wanted to pay 90 bucks.

[bishoptaner]

i have been there for the first few ddays the first thru the forth i have talked to eric at all of these i hung out with him at his first fd event. He is an ass hole pissis on everyone that he thinks cant help him in the long run yet screws over his "friends", mattback. He is nothing then a jew bastard that wants nothing more than money.

[Jonas]

i don;t know what all the drama is for... lets say there were more competitions here in florida... lets be real... we pretty much know who would be the trypical qualifyers....atleast for the time being with the current OVERALL skill level here

this thread has gotten into so many poeple's heads... matt chin is a known suck up and once he read this he was all "dg trials= fail"..

not to mention lots of people complaning in here HAVE paid the $90 to drift at an event...

all people do is bitch... i pay my dues and have fun out there... it beats a ticket... i am not out there to be a pro driver and get sponsored... so you know what if they have events twice a year so what... i am fine with that... sure it would be nice to get more events...

and event is an event simple as that... when did everyone get so picky... not like EVERYONE in here or in the forum that complains has any experience or skills to back anything up...

this is pathetic...

[JC]

+1

[bishoptaner]

i don;t know what all the drama is for... lets say there were more competitions here in florida... lets be real... we pretty much know who would be the trypical qualifyers....atleast for the time being with the current OVERALL skill level here

this thread has gotten into so many poeple's heads... matt chin is a known suck up and once he read this he was all "dg trials= fail"..

not to mention lots of people complaning in here HAVE paid the $90 to drift at an event...

all people do is bitch... i pay my dues and have fun out there... it beats a ticket... i am not out there to be a pro driver and get sponsored... so you know what if they have events twice a year so what... i am fine with that... sure it would be nice to get more events...

and event is an event simple as that... when did everyone get so picky... not like EVERYONE in here or in the forum that complains has any experience or skills to back anything up...

this is pathetic...


you are right but you forgot one thing

"Matt" when are you doing anything in fl
"Eric" when you start caring about outside of fl

[Alchemist XL]

^^ you are a fkin moron fanboy go back to bein a umbrella girl for tertech ^^

[mranlet]

There really isn't any sense in making this a bashfest, that's all I'll say about that.

In any community there will be the shit talkers and crybabies and the hardcore lifers - sometimes there are people that are all of these things at once. We can't and don't try to make the events exclusive to a certain type of person, but they are definitely tailored to the guy who comes out, has fun, tries hard, is happier when he left than when he got there and thanks everyone for a great day regardless of whether he spun every lap or nailed the course. The people we don't pay much attention to are the ones who begrudgingly pay the driver fee, complain about stuff during the day and then spend a lot of time and effort pointing out how other people aren't flawless. If they didn't show up to events, nobody would miss them.

Any company with an intention of surviving will always be continually trying to improve its events and give their customers more for their money (this is one of the beauties of capatilism) and DGtrials is included in that group.

Really, in all these 'fail' posts, when has there been a 'pass' post? I'm not trying to be Mr Life Lesson or anything, but if people brush off the negative and accentuate the positive they will enjoy themselves much more and lead more fulfilling lives in general.

Rant being said, DG events are going to become more diverse and get people more for their money - it is my mission!

[dudocius240sx]

i have been there for the first few ddays the first thru the forth i have talked to eric at all of these i hung out with him at his first fd event. He is an ass hole pissis on everyone that he thinks cant help him in the long run yet screws over his "friends", mattback. He is nothing then a jew bastard that wants nothing more than money.


Spell check please. you are killing me, i had to take off my glasses and cleaned them to be able to figure out what you were saying.

[Anthony Macaluso]

Really, in all these 'fail' posts, whenhas there been a 'pass' post? I'm not trying to be Mr Life Lesson or anything, but if people brush off the negative and accentuate the positive they will enjoy themselves much more and lead more fulfilling lives in general.

That's what I've been preaching...this "bad-ass, holier than thou, my way or I cry way" attitude with Florida people is why the drift community sucks and likely the reason it will fail if it does indeed fail.

[Anthony Macaluso]

i don;t know what all the drama is for... lets say there were more competitions here in florida... lets be real... we pretty much know who would be the trypical qualifyers....atleast for the time being with the current OVERALL skill level here

Competitions have a way of bringing out the best and worst in a driver. You missed a hell of a show this past Sun...I guarantee you that if you were there, you would have been shocked by some of the events that took place. Competitions also tend to push people past their limits, making them better drivers in the long run. You'll be 10x more relaxed at the practice after a competition so it will be easier to concentrate and learn. I was afraid that people felt this way though...explains the shitty turnout. :(

[agentAndy]

competitions are NEEDED to raise the bar.

[Funk]

we dont need competitions

what the fuck are competitions for?

we just need a good track. cheap price.
go have your competitions in california.

[dudocius240sx]

we dont need competitions

what the fuck are competitions for?

we just need a good track. cheap price.
go have your competitions in california.



i actually think thats true, competition we could do without. but practice is needed. in hawaii they are so good cause the practice everyday they have cheap tracks and they dont cry like we do here, I dont give a fuck who is putting the eventsi will be there. why bash on DG, between them and ter tech are the only ones making a difference.

[santi]

practice is definately needed.. but i think a comp every now and then just makes ppl learn what they can change.. but lots of practice

[steve]

attitude with Florida people is why the drift community sucks and likely the reason it will fail if it does indeed fail.

umm who the fuck are you?

[dudocius240sx]

he is Shakespeare

[Ichi-go]

I am gonna take a guess and say Anthony Macaluso.

[santi]

I am gonna take a guess and say Anthony Macaluso.

haha best answer ever..your prolly right though.. for those that couldnt figure it out .. i givve you a :roll:

[FreeThinker]

we dont need competitions

what the fuck are competitions for?

we just need a good track. cheap price.
go have your competitions in california.

Competitions put the pressure on you to perform.

There is no incentive to get better unless there is a penalty for sucking.

One of the reasons there were so many people on sunday who could give Bill a run for his money is because they have all practiced at a place where every event is a competition. A competition not to wreck your car. This forced the drivers to either perform or pay up the hard way. Yes Hialeah has eaten its fair share of cars (so has Ebisu), but both have also produced a pretty impressive number of talented drivers. Ocala has no real penalty for screwing up big and I'm confident that's why I haven't seen the talent level jump very much.


i don;t know what all the drama is for... lets say there were more competitions here in florida... lets be real... we pretty much know who would be the trypical qualifyers....atleast for the time being with the current OVERALL skill level here

The greatest thing about sunday is that every one of the top8 could have won if they had been able to duplicate their best qualifying run, and there are at least 8 more in the state who can compete at this level.


-Sean

[Chin]

So in conclusion Ter Tech has evnet's DG has events. Events are avaliable for people. People go to events and get better. Wow look at that an equation without drama.

I agree with Sean the top 8 were close and some of the bottom 8 had car problems which stoped them from competing. What fun would football be if we didnt keep score? Sure back in 1992 we knew the bucs would lose but they were still fun to watch (for some) now look ahead to 2000 they fricken won the superbowl. Your only as good as you try to be. Whats the point of trying if your not trying to be the best.

[paul kersey]

also, autocross is about as grass roots as it gets, and its still a contest for lap times.
no cash prizes, but still, who doesnt want to perform well?

[FreeThinker]

umm who the fuck are you?

Yea, it's prolly Anthony Macaluso, TonyMac, Ant, D4, Penguin Drift Wahhh

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=12179546&Mytoken=3ECD56F9-212A-4FFB-A6E2016DA254AB2C2471132562

You should recognize the green car from a few DDay's

He drives the Ter-Tech S13 Coupe now


-Sean

[Alchemist XL]

Competitions put the pressure on you to perform.

There is no incentive to get better unless there is a penalty for sucking.

One of the reasons there were so many people on sunday who could give Bill a run for his money is because they have all practiced at a place where every event is a competition. A competition not to wreck your car. This forced the drivers to either perform or pay up the hard way. Yes Hialeah has eaten its fair share of cars (so has Ebisu), but both have also produced a pretty impressive number of talented drivers. Ocala has no real penalty for screwing up big and I'm confident that's why I haven't seen the talent level jump very much.

-Sean


Very true! I agree on this.. nicely put, preach on brotha!!!

[Anthony Macaluso]

umm who the fuck are you?

Like others have said, I'm Anthony Macaluso...just another crappy drifter from south Florida. :)

[slow6brick]

honestly

we need more competitions

we need a competition at every event, shit just for bragging rights or something

i'm all about it.

i'm all about building my PERSONAL car up to mimic my competition car.


-mattback

[Funk]

competitions are stupid
why are all you guys so concerned with competitions

why cant you just go out and drift for fun
most of you have lost sight of what drifting really is.
i remember when you mother fuckers were saying there is no real way to even judge drifting. most everybody in florida sucks anyways. not saying im good.
we need like 2 more years of practice to be "competing"

florida is the special olympics of drifting. fl fail. fuck.

plus hialeah drivers havnt really turned out to be good drivers, they just know how to drive big fucking ovals.

[hachibill]

and i'll just have to go on raiseing the bar and winning events. eheheheheheheheh besides the people who have the skill and want it bad enough will shine more at a competition just for the simple fact that it is a competition and not just practice. its a go big or go home type of thing. and for me it was not letting my car get in my head and ruin my concentration. if my car would have ran flawlessly i feel i would have done better, but thats all part of racing, and goes to show that a person who really wants it will stop at nothing to get it. i'm not tring to be a dick, i thought alot of other people were doing very well. and i know i'm not invinsible, but i know i'm good and confidence helps. I have lost too, so it teaches you that you never always win. you have to be able to deal with looseing as well as not getting a big head when you win.

[hachibill]

competitions are stupid
why are all you guys so concerned with competitions

why cant you just go out and drift for fun
most of you have lost sight of what drifting really is.
i remember when you mother fuckers were saying there is no real way to even judge drifting. most everybody in florida sucks anyways. not saying im good.
we need like 2 more years of practice to be "competing"

florida is the special olympics of drifting. fl fail. fuck.

plus hialeah drivers havnt really turned out to be good drivers, they just know how to drive big fucking ovals.


your just pissed off your not at the level to be in a competition, whether it be your skill level or your cars level. just be patient and things will slowly turn around for you if you have the right attitude. i feel like you do sometimes, but you just have to keep working hard to get to where you want to be, nothing comes for free in life. go out and fight for it!

[Funk]

bill needs to go to formula D and leave the rest of florida to be equal

[Jonas]

So in conclusion Ter Tech has evnet's DG has events. Events are avaliable for people. People go to events and get better. Wow look at that an equation without drama.

.


hilarious... you are such a fronter... now all of a sudden an event is an event... you were so stuck on "fuck dg trials blablabla"

likei have said in every single post where this topic is brought up... an event is an event...

i agree completely with funk... drift and have fun... sure the idea of a competition puts more of a "limit pushing" affect on drivers... then fine... maybe we can have SOME what of a competition with dg trials... maybe first place gets a free spot next dday, or 50% off u get the picture...

but in the end... you are still doing the same thing on the track... what the fuck is the big deal..

[Jonas]

competitions are stupid
why are all you guys so concerned with competitions

why cant you just go out and drift for fun
most of you have lost sight of what drifting really is.
i remember when you mother fuckers were saying there is no real way to even judge drifting. most everybody in florida sucks anyways. not saying im good.
we need like 2 more years of practice to be "competing"

florida is the special olympics of drifting. fl fail. fuck.

plus hialeah drivers havnt really turned out to be good drivers, they just know how to drive big fucking ovals.


people have too much pride... u go into an NJ forum for drifting u won't read dumb shit like the shit in here... i am sure there are other locations that aren't so hyped up like we are here too.. competition is fine...but people use it in a negative way...and it's slowly getting the better part of certain drivers... causing paranoia, loss of sleep, sexual side effects, higher risk of stroke... aka everyone is so worried about their ego... who the fuck cares...

[satanshatch]

I think what HAS been done is great. Like someone said the balls in someone elses hands now, lets support what he has to offer and continue. (yes that was a positive comment from Mike)

[Chin]

Wow jonas you have this amazing ablity to listen to what you want to hear. You asked if I was going to do dday 8 I simply said I did not have the cash to do another dday at ocala for what it was worth. And you didnt do dday 7 so whatever.

[dudocius240sx]

the way i see it is; practice is what makes a good drifter, competitions just assure him of his skill levels. just have more events, practice more and you will be a force to wreck with in every single competition you enter. example. last sunday John hatton underpowered s14 ended on the top 8, Miata (chealse) less than 140hp, placed on the top 5. You know why cause they practice, they practice day and night.

[sidehappyside]

I will see u bitches at dday 8 mofo's! :lol:

[sidehappyside]

Oh and an idea for dday is...dday is a practice event. but we could like at the end of the day for the peoples whose cars are still working, pick out a few of the ppl who did good on the practice and have a small competition with a little prize or just for bragging. it will be an awesome way to end a day.

[hachibill]

plus one on Jonas sticking his foot in his mouth.

[Just Dave]

Oh and an idea for dday is...dday is a practice event. but we could like at the end of the day for the peoples whose cars are still working, pick out a few of the ppl who did good on the practice and have a small competition with a little prize or just for bragging. it will be an awesome way to end a day.

So the events are too expensive but lets make DG buy prizes to give out, which will drive the price up?

[NismoZ]

^ no, its actually a good idea. it wouldnt cost much and would give the croud a real show.
i was a spectator at OSW and the final competitions from great 8 on was amazing. its no big deal, even if its just a shirt or if some of the sponsors would throw in prizes..hint..hint

[Just Dave]

The thing that bugs me about that is why are people driving harder if its a competition than a practice? I mean, why drift at all if you aren't putting on a show?

[santi]

common dude.. your a guy.. competition brings out the roar in someone .. you try twice as hard.. theres reward ,bragging rights and upsets not to mention someone is critisizing your driving.. i dont know about you guys but if someone tells me i'm fucking up here or there.. i want to fix it.. and in practice nothing is that critical.. noone is pinpointing things they need to improve on and noone is trying new things.your just going through motionsso all in all.. either way you look at it we need both to get better.. and if you dont want to compete ,only sign up for practice days.. noone is supposed to bash you for not wanting to compete ...and let the comps still happen for those that want to compete.

[Laurentz]

This thread sucks balllllsssss.

[hachibill]

well if your not out there competing or out there driving, i really don't see how you can have any input on the topic. most everyone repliying to this thread is a internet drifter. which=your a fag.

[dudocius240sx]

We are all FAGGGGGGGGSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

[hachibill]

everyone back in the pile!

[Just Dave]

most everyone repliying to this thread is a internet drifter. which=your a fag.

I'm not even that. I'm a video game drifter. That makes me gayer than McFunkdizzle or whatever his name is this week.

While not a drifter, or even Asian, I have been around MANY racing organisations over the years and know how it works. How it DOESN'T work is holding up a race or session for MIA drivers, paging them several times over the PA, holding everything up for photographers, etc.

[steve]

Like others have said, I'm Anthony Macaluso...just another crappy drifter from south Florida. :)

back to your original coment i don't rember where i was going with this but
i my self think fl fail is not true

[steve]

why cant you just go out and drift for fun
most of you have lost sight of what drifting really is.


qft

[_Charles_]

god damn....quit your bitching. If you want more, or something else....get out there and do something about it. If you don't support what you do have, than you have no right to bash it. I'm tired of watching people who have been to 1 event bash DGT. you have only been to 1 of there 8 events and you think you have the right to bitch? Dream On.

If you have a better idea...act on it. Do it. get off your fucking lazy ass. Standing on the sidelines at events and making hamburgers means nothing...NOTHING!

PUT UP OR SHUT UP.
Charles

[satanshatch]

well if your not out there competing or out there driving, i really don't see how you can have any input on the topic. most everyone repliying to this thread is a internet drifter. which=your a fag.

Coming from someone of course whos constantly got his finger up his friends asses.. :lol:

We do what we can Bill. Some of us havent been in a position to be out on the track. Be it our cars are not ready or we dont have the funds etc. I've been to several events. Driving or not. I'm happy to see people get out there and do what they enjoy doing.

[_Charles_]

Some of us havent been in a position to be out on the track. Be it our cars are not ready or we dont have the funds etc.

That's the BULLSHIT i'm tired of. It's always the same, whether it auto-X or Drifting, or whatever.... It's ALWAYS 'I can't go becuase I need to get ______ .'

Meanwhile people are out there in BONE STOCK CARS and tearing up the track. NO EXCUSES. blah blah blah I don't have a diff blah blah blah my peepee hurts blah blah blah.

Whatever. Grow some balls and just do it. Excuses are for pussies, and there is alot of them around this damn forum.

Charles

[FreeThinker]

back to your original coment i don't rember where i was going with this but
i my self think fl fail is not true

I have to agree, FL-Fail is BS, Florida has some of the best drifters in the country.


-Sean

[paul kersey]

everyone back in the pile!
so. what youre sayin is. you want us to get in a big pile and have sex with each other?

[nismocoupe]

everyone get gay together.








hahahahahahaha funniest thread EVAR

[ZENKone]

damnit.i wanted an event when this florida heat aint so hot....not winter cus we dont have a winter here.but like decmber ish timeee. sooo its not so hot.but to te point. ill go suport events all i can,if it means we will have more.floridas got so many drifters its dumb not to have events. well peace eazy evryone.

[hachibill]

so. what youre sayin is. you want us to get in a big pile and have sex with each other?



EXACTLY!!! or we could all sit around and watch the Hoarse video together!!! AAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH

[Anthony Macaluso]

damnit.i wanted an event when this florida heat aint so hot....not winter cus we dont have a winter here.but like decmber ish timeee. sooo its not so hot.but to te point. ill go suport events all i can,if it means we will have more.floridas got so many drifters its dumb not to have events. well peace eazy evryone.

Events in FL's "winter" are the shiznit! No sweating (so no swamp ass), no overheating, extra power, ect ect. I'm excited now!!! :D

[Mars_302]

You know what be better, a night event so we all could have a godo nights sleep and not have to be up before the sun to make a 2 hour drive.

[hachibill]

well we had friday night lights at lakeland, whatever happened to that?

[Laurentz]

so. what youre sayin is. you want us to get in a big pile and have sex with each other?

So what you're sayin is we should all get in a big pile and start gettin gay with each other?

[Pineapple]

well we had friday night lights at lakeland, whatever happened to that?
People complained, and they stopped.
DGT keep on keepin' on.

[taka86fc]

we need night events

[paul kersey]

That's the BULLSHIT i'm tired of. It's always the same, whether it auto-X or Drifting, or whatever.... It's ALWAYS 'I can't go becuase I need to get ______ .'

Meanwhile people are out there in BONE STOCK CARS and tearing up the track. NO EXCUSES. blah blah blah I don't have a diff blah blah blah my peepee hurts blah blah blah.

Whatever. Grow some balls and just do it. Excuses are for pussies, and there is alot of them around this damn forum.

Charles
honestly, my main reason for not driving in events, is being dirt poor.
my car isnt at an awesome level. but it could get the job done.

i think youre being a little ridiculous for someone that bought a completed car, and never drove anything but.

[hachibill]

why is this thread still here???????????

[aphxero]

Charles, I'm one of those people who gets off my ass and does something about it. It's called street drifting haha.

No seriously, I've been to 4 DG events and they are doing well with what they have. When I need a fix and there's no event, like I said I "go out" :)

[mranlet]

What if a venue was in town? Would 5-10 be better than 8 or 9-dark? Is the main complaint with all day events that they are far (OGP) and that people have to get up early to go?

[_Charles_]

honestly, my main reason for not driving in events, is being dirt poor.
my car isnt at an awesome level. but it could get the job done.

i think youre being a little ridiculous for someone that bought a completed car, and never drove anything but.

I have driven a Bone Stock S14 (except welded Diff) for a lap at a DGT event...and I enjoyed every second of it. KA Drift isn't all that bad. I would go out there and try to drift any RWD car you give me. simply put, I don't give 2 shits either way.

It's the same excuse I heard from friends about auto-x'ing...it's always something... so, I took my brother inlaws STOCK 97 civic coupe and ran it at an event, and beat the times of highly modified civics...it's all about the driver, isn't that what everybody here keeps saying?

Do as I say, and not as I do? Haha. Fuck it.

Charles

[Matt Vassallo]

the main problem is the seat time.


honeslty its like 15, 20 dollars PER RUN practically at times.


here is what you need to do.


1) build a wider, more simple course. this way it only has 2 or three turns. ALA DDAY 1. make it nice and wide so kids aren't eating dirt the whole time. allow the intermediates and advanced kids to run tandem with each other. drift day allows it, so should you. if there are issues with your sanctioning bodys rules, join/make a different sanctioning body. this will let the intermediates and advanced kids run through the course even faster.

2) make the intermediates and advnaces get like 10-15 min of track time per session. not specific 2 laps then ur off like the beginners, because the beginners spin out the whole time and take 5 times as long to do two laps. reward the drivers who do better and don't spinout by allowing them to get 8-10 laps in a session and burn through a whole set of tires in like, no time at all. dday1 style. except better.

3) have a beginner specific day that costs more but gets 8-10 people MAXIMUM track time so they can get much, much better.

4) why don't the florida kids ever put any money into their cars? everywhere else in the usa all the drifters have nice looking baller cars and they really work hard to look good. in florida everyone is busted cut springs with welded diffs? i dont' understand, but florida kids, you need to stop being lame and put money into your cars and get better at drifting , build your car better, you'll get better, trust me.

[aphxero]

Matt, I guess I'm the exception? I have alot of $$$ in mine and it still looks like sheit :)

But yeah, all good points. I think as soon as an event happens in tampa metro things will look better.

[Funk]

i put all the money i can into my shit

[Jonas]

Wow jonas you have this amazing ablity to listen to what you want to hear. You asked if I was going to do dday 8 I simply said I did not have the cash to do another dday at ocala for what it was worth. And you didnt do dday 7 so whatever.


don;t even try and turn it around... you are such a fucking brown nose i swear, you do nothing but front and lie... i am not the one that hangs around with my "sarasota" people who make fun of myself... \

this whole thread is why our "drift scene" is so dramatized...

[paul kersey]

seems rght now the one bringing drama is you jonas.
i know you and matt were friends. if you arent now, the place to deal with that isnt on a public messageboard.

[Matt Vassallo]

honestly. tim is right.

if you guys have problems, then deal with it in person off the board, off the internet.

none of you shouod have problems with anybody else unless you slept with your friends girlfriend. then you should shoot them in the face.

[mranlet]

honestly. tim is right.

if you guys have problems, then deal with it in person off the board, off the internet.

none of you shouod have problems with anybody else unless you slept with your friends girlfriend. then you should shoot them in the face.

in talking to eric jacobs about drift events in florida :

the social moth (10:48:14 PM): how come you guys never have competitions
thoraxe S13 (10:50:11 PM): Were having one this weekend nitwit
the social moth (10:50:31 PM): not in florida
thoraxe S13 (11:10:18 PM): So?
the social moth (11:19:24 PM): i dont care about outside of fl
the social moth (11:19:27 PM): when are you doing anything for fl
thoraxe S13 (11:43:54 PM): When you start caring about outside of fl


bring on more ter tech events!!!

You were saying...

Anyway, there are things being done, and contrary to what some believe, DG does care about Florida, a LOT. If we are to have any hope of making FL better for drifters, both DG and Ter-Tech need the support of the drifting community.

[Mike]

Save the dramaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa for your big fat mama.


shut up and fucking drift.

[Matt Vassallo]

i'm worreid about the future of drifting in florida / tampa especially because even the head people are very care-free and just disheartened about it.

i think we need people like moto and naoki to bring over drift day.
a sanctioning body that cares will make the whole community closer.

[hachibill]

we have that here already. ala TER TECH. may not be as big as driftday, but they care very much about the drift scene in FL and wanting to improve apone it.

[Matt Vassallo]

i'm looking for a true sanctioning body of some sort, not a company doing drift events that sells parts / does service. im looking for something devoted. like sunriders.

[mranlet]

i'm worreid about the future of drifting in florida / tampa especially because even the head people are very care-free and just disheartened about it.
I know how you feel. If it's any consolation, the head people in FL are really me and Kyle. Erik really probably doesn't care about FL because he really has never had a huge part in it - Atlanta is really his bag, and Kyle and I do most of the footwork and Erik comes and helps run the events or makes big yes/no decissions on questionable topics.

i think we need people like moto and naoki to bring over drift day.
a sanctioning body that cares will make the whole community closer... ...sun riders, etc
You and I have the same goal in mind then - an org that cares 100% about the drifting and 0% about the parts sales. Parts sales are none of my concern, I just want to make the events kick ass!

[Matt Vassallo]

hwat tracks / locations are you looking at for 2006 ??? please tell us why we should even believ eyou, ranlet!!!

[Durdan]

im putting all my money in MY car.... i want to do more events.. and on a little bit bigger scale. much love to ocala, but its getting old. once you combo the whole thing, the only thing to improve is speed and entry... after that, you just fuck around and try to get crazy and not wreck to at least give the spectators SOMETHING to watch.



although, when the car is done.. id like to do what we did with the advance group again and have alot on the track

[shiny suit man]

i'm looking for a true sanctioning body of some sort, not a company doing drift events that sells parts / does service. im looking for something devoted. like sunriders.
We don't sell or build cars at the events. plus last two months we have dedicated lot more time into the events this is why we will have event once a month from now on. And next season will be more tracks and more events. But to make this happen you don't need more organizers you need the drivers to take part in the events.

[FreeThinker]

i'm worreid about the future of drifting in florida / tampa especially because even the head people are very care-free and just disheartened about it.

i think we need people like moto and naoki to bring over drift day.
a sanctioning body that cares will make the whole community closer.

They run a business, things in Florida have to get better before they come here, not worse. They don't want to lose money.

Also I know it wasn't their fault, but the last event in FL that was run by DriftDay wasn't exactly a success if any of you guys remember. Seems they forgot it was called DRIFT showoff instead of RAP showoff.....

They also promised to come back and give all the DSO participants free entry to another event....

Moto and Naoki were great, but it's not like if they came here, FL participants, spectators, tracks and sponsors are suddently going to change...

[mranlet]

hwat tracks / locations are you looking at for 2006 ??? please tell us why we should even believ eyou, ranlet!!!
When have I ever given anybody reason not to believe me? When has DG failed you guys?

We have BIG plans for 2006, but 99% of you will have to wait until SEMA to find out - can't let the cat (or "KA-T" for Taylor) out of the bag yet...

I'm going to be making a lot of phone calls on Monday as well, as it's the first chance I will really have to sit down and make them in the 2 weeks I've been in the position I am in.