Dodge Tech drag car Initial Discussion/Prelim Plans

[Fast420A]

Ford Forum's doing it, and so is the Honda/Acura Forum. Let's show them that the dodge boys can keep up!

Here's a pretty large thread on it.
http://www.tamparacing.com/forums/showthread.php?t=256457&page=1&pp=15


I have a 420A head from the Eclipse/Talon/Avenger that has front exhaust ports where we could mount a rather large turbo. I also have a KKK K26 Big Turbo that probably needs a rebuild. I also have an In-Line high pressure fuel pump from a HRC Turbo kit for the non turbo Eclipses but it needs the 12volt connection repaired. What do you guys think, anyone want to make a 1st Gen Neon run 10's?

I think that we could also advertise on the car and all over the forum for any parts that are donated by vendors for this project. I know I'd list them or a link for them in my sig.

[Skittle]

<---IM SO DOWN,Lets find a 1st gen Neon,i know we can pick one up for $200-$300 easily!

[figment]

i have a 96 acr that i might sell cheap, no motor no trans

[Off-Topic]

or you guys can put like 10,000 in my car lol

[Fast420A]

i have a 96 acr that i might sell cheap, no motor no trans

How cheap is "cheap" ?

[Josiah]

great, we just need to find internals...and no you cant have my wisecos and T2s....but internals are about 800 or so...I would say go 2.4, more power from it in the end...I may be picking up another 2.4 block soon, we could use the 420A head(though I hate putting the turbo up front by the radiator)

[Fast420A]

great, we just need to find internals...and no you cant have my wisecos and T2s....but internals are about 800 or so...I would say go 2.4, more power from it in the end...I may be picking up another 2.4 block soon, we could use the 420A head(though I hate putting the turbo up front by the radiator)

I agree on the 2.4L but I think we should be able to rev it out to at least 7200 rpm like the 2.0 can for a nice powerband. We should throw in some SRT stock internals that we can probably pick up for cheap instead of spending on forged internals. We'll need to go big turbo if it's going to be a track car only. Stripped out down to nothing but a drivers seat and a nitrous bottle to spool the big turbo. What do we have so far that can be used?


420A front exhaust port head with old rockers and lifters (we need PT style)
Hi Flow Inline Fuel Pump (needs 12v connection repaired)
KKK K26 Big, Good for probably only 350 HP, not that big but I have it.
MSD DIS-2 (no tach adapter anymore)
Cartech FPR that comes with HRC Eclipse Turbo Kit.
52mm Manual Oil Pressure Gauge with Brass T to connect to stock sender.

[HMCK20]

im down... but i dont have much money to help out with but i do have lots of tools and mechanical experience. so i can be lots of help lmk!

[Josiah]

FYI...stock SRT internals will fall apart if you rev over 6500 RPM...but then with a 2.4 you dont need to....it really doesnt much matter where the tach needle points when you make your maximum HP/Torque, and forget the RRFPR...its better to go with MegaSquirt...same price...much better fuel control(and spark if you want it)

[Fast420A]

forget the RRFPR...its better to go with MegaSquirt...same price...much better fuel control(and spark if you want it)

Not when I already have one sitting there in my tool box for free but I do agree I would rather have some sort of controlable engine management system for it. As for the pistons and rods falling apart at 6500 rpm, seeing as stage 2 on an SRT-4 gives you a 6500 rpm redline we could take it there no problem. I know that 7200 is the stock redline on the 2.0L and that people have taken it to 8200 or so, so I would assume that the 2.4 could rev out a little, in fact I though some people had reved out their swaps a little over 7000 but maybe I am wrong on that one.

[Jap]

Ultra Megasquirt or Megasquirt and Spark with EDIS could work ...

I know quite a bit about it as I ran it on my old turbo 4AG MR2 ....

2.4 w/SRT Internals and a T3/T4 @ 15lbs in a gutted 1g on slicks could run quite well . I think most of our time money should be invested in the motor and the ability to get it down . Traction and suspension will allow this car to be fast not oputright power ...

[Skittle]

How much for the ACR shell?..

Suspension and tires are a must..Power wasted,is well...you know.


I agree 2.4 with Srt internals is the way...But weight reduction can make up for power in the end...

[Fast420A]

2.4 w/SRT Internals and a T3/T4 @ 15lbs in a gutted 1g on slicks could run quite well . I think most of our time money should be invested in the motor and the ability to get it down . Traction and suspension will allow this car to be fast not oputright power ...

I totally agree, getting the power to the ground being a big concern, as it is with any high power FWD. So lets get a game plan together as to what the overall plan will be.

BIG LIST OF SHIT
Stripped out 1G 2 door. Target weight >2000 lbs with driver?
2.4L old style block with SRT internals, balance shafts removed and 2.0 DOHC ECU
Map Clamp or Missing Link
ARP Head Studs
ARP Exhaust Studs (4g63 studs washers and nuts work)
--Exhaust man. stud to head 8mm MD005317
--Exhaust man. nut 8mm MD092806
--Exhaust washer 8mm MD041192
Stock MLS Headgasket
Fast420A- 420A Eclipse head with rear intake ports.
Sheet metal Large Plenum short runner intake manifold. (Anyone know how to weld?)
Solid Motor mounts (more welding)
Fast420A- Oil Pressure Gauge (manual) with Brass T for stock sender.
Fast420A- MSD Ignition
Skittle- Nitrous Kit
HMCK20- Large FMIC
Fast420A-KKK K26 Turbo (would prefer a larger turbo)
Fast420A-Cartech FMU (RRFPR but we should run something better)


What tranny do we want to use?
A670 3 Speed Auto tranny with a 3000 rpm stall, NVG850, NVG350 (either 3.55 or 3.94 final drive is available with the NVG350)


If we go manual do we want to go with the 95 style Non modular clutch and a lightweight flywheel or a 96+ Modular style?

Any other ideas and what spare parts does everyone have lying around?

[GsEclipse02]

ill be having a few things for sale turbo wise if yall do use the 420a ...

[Skittle]

I will also have a nitrous kit up for use.

[Skittle]

I totally agree, getting the power to the ground being a big concern, as it is with any high power FWD. So lets get a game plan together as to what the overall plan will be.

Stripped out 1G 2 door. Target weight >2000 lbs with driver?
2.4L old style block with SRT internals and stock 2.0 ECU and map clamp.
ARP Head Studs
Stock MLS Headgasket
420A Eclipse head with rear intake ports.
Sheet metal Large Plenum short runner intake manifold. (Anyone know how to weld?)
Solid Motor mounts (more welding)
Stock SRT front mount or do we need something bigger?
MSD Ignition


What tranny do we want to use?
3 speed A/T, NVG850, NVG350 (either 3.55 or 3.94 final drive is available with the NVG350)

Any other ideas and what spare parts does everyone have lying around?

I'm weight reduction :lol: 140lbs > *...I "might" be able to get ahold of someone for welding.

[Fast420A]

ill be having a few things for sale turbo wise if yall do use the 420a ...

We would be using the 1G neon with a 2.4 engine that is the same as the 420A except 1 inch taller. Keep in mind this is like the ford project if possible, as close to free extra parts as possible. I need to get ahold of Craig with the built Dark Green RS and see if he's got anything useful lying around. Skittle, the nitrous would be nice just for a little extra power. :thumbup:

[HMCK20]

i have several buddies that will weld use some stuff.

[HMCK20]

a frount mount i can get my hands on. lets use the nitrous for a fogging system. get that fmic frosty!! so i got the welding. my boy well be down for sure. he loves doin this kinda shit. the fmic i can hopefully throw this guy in my area a few bones for his tabletopper. let get this goin!!

[Fast420A]

So the Honda's have spent $70 and look at their list so far.

http://www.tamparacing.com/forums/showthread.php?t=256660

[cali]

Man, they have a lot o junk part laying around. Fact is I have more HONDA parts laying round, than Dodge.
I can lend elec help with wiring & soldering.
I'll see if we can get a FREE BIG FMIC, or in worst case, a HUGE price cut.

Where do you plan on keeping 'the' car? It would be wise to have it in a central area to all participants.

[HMCK20]

im talkin to my boss to see if we can keep it at the shop. i will let you guys know.

[Fast420A]

I tried to run it by the wife to let us keep it here in my back yard but that didn't go over well so that's a no go. :(

[neondriver]

floridaneons just had a turbo 2.4 1st gen for $500, seems like it was sold a few minutes after it was posted though. it would have made a good project car

[Dano Moparo]

I can prob help out with parts, that is my specialty since this Dodge is gonna be a FWD project. :lol: Keep posting the things you have trouble finding and I'll do what I can. Some of the tech's here do a bit of side hustle and got parts I can beg borrow and steal.

[HMCK20]

ok i got welding for sure. the fmic i can get might not fit but im gonna take it to junk yard and find a 1st gen and see if i can make it work. tons of electric and mechanical experience. lets get started and i will try to convince the boss to see if i can get the bay with the lift that hasnt been used in months. so we will see cross your fingers. but if that fails ill talk to mark he is gm for several nissan delearships and he might be able to help me out!

[Fast420A]

Don't worry about the FMIC fitting, we can make it work on a track only car I would think. :lol:

Dano Moparo, glad to know you are in on helping with this one. I'm sure we can make this work.

People just need to keep their eyes open for ANY kind of deal that might help us out.

[Fast420A]

i have a 96 acr that i might sell cheap, no motor no trans

Why don't you just let us use it and you can have it back when we are done, just like the rest of the parts unless we sell it as a whole and split the cash. :dunno:

[Fast420A]

Man, they have a lot o junk part laying around.

Look at the Ford guys parts list.

http://www.tamparacing.com/forums/showthread.php?t=251284

[Josiah]

the problem with the stock SRT pistons revving over 6500 is that they tend to fall apart...being cast...not to mention the SRT split cap rod design doesnt lend itself to high RPM very well...and the rod/stroke ratio is not the best...true...some people rev their 2.4s way up past 7k(I did it myself on my 96 motor) but I had forged pistons and rods and honestly, I revved it all the way to 7500 RPM but there wasnt any power up above 6700 or so anyway(not with the #14s anyway) anyway, I have a set of 96' cams laying around for the project...the highest lift stock 2.4 cams around....right around the same lift as crane #14s on a guess...mild...but since we dont have to spend $400, thats always a plus

[Fast420A]

Those cams you have won't work in the reverse head, you have to use the Eclipse cams in the eclipse head and the neon's can switch between 2.4 and 2.0 cams.

Here's the stock Eclipse Cam specs according to Crower:
219 / 221 Advertised Duration
166 / 172 Duration @ .050"
.273 / .323 Gross Lift w/1.75

Here's the stock 2.0 Neon Specs according to Crower:
223 / 222 Advertised Duration
177 / 175 Duration @ .050"
.348 / .320 Gross Lift w/1.75

Now if there is a 2.4 or Neon head ready to be used, I am all for it, I just know that the big turbo guys have talked about switching to the reverse head and I know that some of the race teams have already done it.

Then there is also these:
http://forums.2gnt.com/dcboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=16&topic_id=79706&mesg_id=79706&page=

Stage 3 - Full Race. Recommended for Drag Race use only. Kit #84176 and ECU required. Idle 1500 - 7500+ rpm.
254 / 254
210 / 210
.350 / .370

That'd be nice huh. :lol:

[HMCK20]

i can go and get one. there not hard to find also my buddy was tellin me someone with a srt 4 got rear ended bad i mean bad last night so im gonna try and find the car and rip the motor out of it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! if that doesnt sound good i dont know what does!!!!!! im so pysched with that kinda news. the fmic something doesnt seem right about it i think it has some kinda leak in it or something im gonna pressure test it and ill keep you guys posted!!!

[Fast420A]

Here's some pics of the race car with the 420A head on it.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v661/icebomb/HPIM0893.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v661/icebomb/HPIM0896.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v661/icebomb/HPIM0898.jpg
http://www.srtforums.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=19502
http://www.srtforums.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=19503
http://www.srtforums.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=19504

[Josiah]

well, I also have a spare 2.0 DOHC head from a 98 neon...but it needs 2 new valves, then it will be good to go...also have my original 96 head from a 96 stratus that has a mild port/polish job done on it w/ 3 angle valve job and stainless steel valves...it just needs to have a couple of cam cap bolt holes tapped bigger(the previous ones got stripped out for 2 bolts) and I need to get some emory cloth to smooth out the surface the cam journal rides on in the head, but since I dont have any other plans for it for the moment, I might donate it to the project...along with the '96 2.4 cams...which have a 242/237 profile if I remember correctly...may be wrong, but I know its not below 239/237

[Fast420A]

There we go, A ported head is a MUCH better idea...now lets get the car and the block.

[HMCK20]

i noticed the ford guys have a person supplying beer. i can bring the Beam!!!

[figment]

i have a 2.0 short block needs pistons and rods but everything else is good. as for the acr i may lend it out if you guys are serious.

[Fast420A]

We are definately serious about the car. We are talking about extreme weight reduction though, would that be a problem? We wouldn't need the block as we want to go 2.4L for more torque but thanks for offering that too.

$125 Turbo Manifold's on SRTForums (http://www.srtforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=175285) might be a good idea to get unless we have someone that can weld up a turbo manifold. There is a Stock SRT-4 clutch for $40 with 8k miles on it in the same post.

$100 Stock SRT-4 Rods (http://www.srtforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=171920)

Here's some parts that may be needed and the pricing. These are numbers I pulled from SRTForums, the prices are MPSC.com prices.


UPPER GASKET SET - 5101787AA - 30.80
LOWER GASKET SET - 5093452AA - 25.25
MAIN BEARINGS - 5012582AA - 6.00 EA.
THRUST BEARING - 5093445AA - 7.76
ROD BEARINGS - 5093448AB - 4.95 EA.
TIMING TENSIONER - 4884473AA - 4.13
IDLER PULLEY - 4781569AB - 28.38
TENSIONER - 4781570AB - 56.32
TIMING BELT - 4621844 - 54.29
PISTON AND ROD - 4884247AD - 49.78
RING SET - 5093441AA - 17.82
OIL PUMP - 4884390AB - 57.20
WATER PUMP - 4884159AA - 46.15
HEAD BOLTS - 6504033 - 2.48 EA
VALVE COVER - 4852729AK - 32.89
VALVE COVER GASKET - 4781639AB - 47.58
OIL FILTER - 4781452AA - 4.29
LIFTERS - 4777976aa -8.86 ea.

[Dano Moparo]

Those prices are good, looks like 10% over cost. About the same price I would pay at work.

[Josiah]

I also have a SRT oil pump and timing belt with 7k miles I am not using...and an idler pulley as well from one of my 2.4s(cant remember which at the moment, but since they are all the same it doesnt matter) would have to dig around to find it

[bluelighting]

Christ, you guys are nuts. I'll see if I can dig up any parts for this car.

[Josiah]

heh, I have all these parts laying around from previous work...and since they arent doing anyone any good sitting in a box I thought they should go to a pourpose, we still need a pre 02 2.4 block though...with a crank in decent shape preferrably with the CPS still there as well

[Fast420A]

We Have:
Ported 96 Stratus 2.4L Head with 3 angle valve job and SS valves. (Needs a few holes tapped)
2.4 Old Style Block with good crank
Stock 2.4L Cams
SRT Oil Pump
SRT Timing Belt
2.4 Idler Pulley
Stock Head Bolts
Fuel Rail with Schrader valve
MSD DIS-2 Ignition
Oil Pressure Gauge
Boost Gauge
AFR Gauge
RRFPR (Cartech Billet) http://www.cartech.net/fmu2020.htm
Accel In Line Fuel Pump from HRC Kit that needs 12v connection repaired
KKK K26 Turbo from an Audi (Probably too small for what we want and needs a rebuild)
Audi Quattro GT external wastegate
Nitrous Kit (either to cool FMIC or spray 75 shot)



We Need:
Car that we can strip for weight reduction (Figment?)
Tranny (We need to decide what we want, there's a few options)
SRT-4 Piston & Rods (Part Number 4884247AD)
Piston Rings (5093441AA)
Main, Thrust and Rod Bearings (5012582AA, 5093445AA and 5093448AB)
Mopar nonaerobic sealer (PN 4773257)
Upper and Lower Gasket sets (Part Numbers 5101787AA and 5093452AA)Water Pump (4884159AA)
Tensioner (4781570AB)
Injectors
Bigger Turbo
FMIC
Blow Off Valve


Things that will need to be made:

Turbo Manifold
Large Short Runner Sheet Metal Intake Manifold
Piping (Intercooler and Side Exit Downpipe)
Solid Motor Mounts


Anyone think of anything else I missed? I am sure there is something.

[Josiah]

as far as the fuel rail with schrader valve, have one of those as well...will fit any early style 2.4 or DOHC 2.0....valve has been removed and I have already used it in a return style fuel sytem so I know it works, I also have a ton of stock head bolts that have all been used once....no thread stretching or any other signs of needing to be replaced, but I always buy new ones when changing out a head gasket or something like that...but I'm sure they will work fine....have 20-30(forget the exact number at the moment)

[Dano Moparo]

Is a 2dr a must?

I may be able to find a 2.4L

[Jap]

I have an older Audi Quattro GT external wastegate I would donate to the project . I also have an autometer boost guage as well as A/F which is somewhat useless ...

When the time comes I could also let you guys borrow the wideband so we could get it tuned well . I still suggest Megasquirt over any stock type of management . We dont need driveability here which is the hardest part , just WOT tunning ...

[Josiah]

I vote MegaSquirt as well like always, a 2 door is noot needed...but a 1st gen is for the weight savings...the car itself would ideally be a 95 neon w/ no options, rear drum and lots of weight reduction....we could also do the same w/ 96-99 but they are very slightly heavier, both the coupes and the sedans weigh the same though and since the thing is only going in a straight line, the slight bit more body flex from the sedan isnt going to matter much

[Jap]

Is the sedans wheelbase any longer ? Ideally if it is I would choose the 4door for the extra traction that would be afforded by the longer wheelbase .

["?"]

the 4 drs are lighter might as well find a 4 wheel drum if your that worried about weight

[Dano Moparo]

I found a complete 2.4L for free,I'm still trying to get the year . My buddy says it lost a rod cap or nut dunno for sure, but says he thinks the crank is good and has the sensor in place.

Also have a lead on CF hood and stuff, may also have a lead on a complete car. Kepp ya posted

[Fast420A]

4 or 2 door's isn't that much of an issue since we are going to strip it out as much as possible anyways. Beggar's can't be choosers so what ever we can get we will make work. It's starting to come together, good job rounding up parts everyone!

[Dano Moparo]

The 2.4 I found is a 2000, if it works I can prob get it this week.

BTW while I was talking to my buddy, he tells me that one of the guys at Suncoast CP where he works has a complete SRT-4 motor. I didn't ask how much figured it would more than likely be out of the budget, but if anyone is seriously interested in it I'll see what he wants for it.

[Josiah]

the 2000 sounds good to me...the SRT4 motor is out of the budget though since it would need a MegaSquirt running EDIS4 to run the thing in a 1st gen(and just the trigger wheel mounting on my pulley ran me $225, its not cheap to put a SRT in a 1st gen) the 2000 will work fine...we still need to find a decently sized turbo though...btw, if anyone knows anyone with a hahn manifold
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/420a-Eclipse-Neon-TURBO-MANIFOLD-2L-2-4L-dohc-2L-sohc_W0QQitemZ7997446198QQcategoryZ33742QQssPageNa meZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

this works fine for our needs...but I'm a cheapo and wont buy it, anyone think they can make one?

[Fast420A]

I know someone that switched from the HRC and 16G to a Alain95i4 manifold and GT3052. He may still have the manifold and turbo or at least just the manifold. I'll check with him asap. The 2000 2.4 sounds like a great find as long as the crank is good.

Now we need to start making time to fix what needs to be fixed and get this shit together and run 10's!

[figment]

you dont want a 95 model, the wiring a computer is different it makes things more difficult. and the weight between a 2dr and 4dr is about 10 pounds so it wont make a difference. the wheel base is the same.

as for cutting up my car,not really into that. i may pull out becouse of being involed with for ford build. i will have to see about the time

[HMCK20]

ok the srt i found i guess will do us no good considering all the stuff we would have to buy. do you guys want me to go junk yard hopping cause i can find a 1st gen with alot of shit blown if you want? does anyone have a truck or trailer to get this car where we need it? the fmic i found has some kinda serious leak it didnt hold pressure at all no wonder the guy was wanting to sell it. anyways i will continue the hunt. just lmk what i need to find.

[Fast420A]

anyways i will continue the hunt. just lmk what i need to find.

A tranny seems to be the next logical choice if Dano Moparo has found a car and 2.4 block and Josiah has the head. We can use the tranny from any of the 1st Gen neons and have a 3.55 or 3.92 Final Drive depending on which car it comes from, now if the car Dano gets has a good tranny we won't need it. We can also use an auto tranny and get a little bit of work on it to make it better for racing. We might need to find a PT cruiser clutch to hopefully hold the power we'll be making.

[Dano Moparo]

I have a motor secured for sure, still waiting on word of the car.

[Fast420A]

Used Clutchmasters Stage 3 and Flywheel (http://forums.neons.org/viewtopic.php?t=227020)

HRC Turbo Parts Cheap (http://forums.neons.org/viewtopic.php?t=230231)

Parts to make your own TURBO MANIFOLD...$65 (http://www.floridaneons.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=4364)

We could just follow his instructions to make our own manifold. (http://www.neonrick.com/turbomanifold_howto.htm)

[HMCK20]

ok i will sniff out a tranny a manual will proably be a better choice strength wise. is there anyway to tell the difference between the two final ratios. lmk soon so i can get busy on this.

[cali]

The manifold looks like it could work. It doesn't need longevity, we could put brackes under it for support(cracking).

I've got that 20PSi boost gauge. Fast, let me know if its needed for sure, and I'll put it aside.

[Jap]

Dont buy a used clutch . Bay City clutch can make us what we need local and their prices are very reasonable . We might even be able to work something out with them .

[Dano Moparo]

If your familar with the body code plate that would be easiest without having to get #'s. It's on the core support or fenderwell, it has 7 rows of #'s. On the bottom row, all the way to the left. DD5 is a 3.55 and DD4 is the 3.94. Now I find that ratio all the way to 2000 cirrus/stratus/sebring with 2.0L also .

If not get VIN #'s off the cars and post them I can get the ratios that way too.

[HMCK20]

alright sweet ill jump on it

[Skittle]

So what all exactly do we have so far?

[Fast420A]

We Have:
Ported 96 Stratus 2.4L Head with 3 angle valve job and SS valves. (Needs a few holes tapped)-Josiah
2.4 Old Style Block with good crank-Dano Moparo
Stock 2.4L Cams-Josiah
SRT Oil Pump-Josiah
SRT Timing Belt-Josiah
2.4 Idler Pulley-Josiah
Stock Head Bolts-Josiah
Fuel Rail with Schrader valve-Josiah
MSD DIS-2 Ignition-Fast420A
Oil Pressure Gauge (Mechanical)-Fast420A
Boost Gauge-Cali
AFR Gauge-Boosted4AG
RRFPR (Cartech Billet) http://www.cartech.net/fmu2020.htm-Fast420A
Accel In Line Fuel Pump from HRC Kit that needs 12v connection repaired-Fast420A
KKK K26 Turbo from an Audi (Probably too small for what we want and needs a rebuild)-Fast420A
Audi Quattro GT external wastegate_Boosted4AG
Nitrous Kit (either to cool FMIC or spray 75 shot)-Skittle
Stage 0 Injectors-grindpunk16


We Need:
Car that we can strip for weight reduction (Dano is working on it)
Tranny (We need to decide what we want, there's a few options)(HMCK20 is looking for one)
Bigger Turbo (Cheap Ebay ones since it's just a drag car?)
FMIC (Cali, what happened with this, anything?)
Blow Off Valve (Someone has to have one around)

These parts we need to buy:
SRT-4 Piston & Rods (Part Number 4884247AD)
Piston Rings (5093441AA)
Main, Thrust and Rod Bearings (5012582AA, 5093445AA and 5093448AB)
Mopar nonaerobic sealer (PN 4773257)
Upper and Lower Gasket sets (Part Numbers 5101787AA and 5093452AA)Water Pump (4884159AA)
Tensioner (4781570AB)



Things that will need to be made:

Turbo Manifold
Large Short Runner Sheet Metal Intake Manifold
Piping (Intercooler and Side Exit Downpipe)
Solid Motor Mounts


Anyone think of anything else I missed? I am sure there is something.

[mpbiv]

And I was just going through my old parts and throwing things out today.

All I really have is old school 2.2/2.5 Turbo parts. But I have two Mitsu TE04H turbos sitting here that I am not going to use. I live close to Orlando though, so if anyone is passing through town I'd be happy to donate them to the cause.

These could be used for a twin turbo setup. A guy on turbododge.com did this on his 2.2L shadow and was running 26psi and 12.16's 1/4's on street tires.

I might also be able to donate the stock MKIV Supra BOV that I have on my K-car but I don't know if that would be useful.

[Fast420A]

And I was just going through my old parts and throwing things out today.

All I really have is old school 2.2/2.5 Turbo parts. But I have two Mitsu TE04H turbos sitting here that I am not going to use. I live close to Orlando though, so if anyone is passing through town I'd be happy to donate them to the cause.

These could be used for a twin turbo setup. A guy on turbododge.com did this on his 2.2L shadow and was running 26psi and 12.16's 1/4's on street tires.

I might also be able to donate the stock MKIV Supra BOV that I have on my K-car but I don't know if that would be useful.

I was just in Orlando yesterday, just missed it I guess. I would think the dual setup may be a little tough to throw together while trying to keep it as cheap as possible.

[mpbiv]

I was just in Orlando yesterday, just missed it I guess. I would think the dual setup may be a little tough to throw together while trying to keep it as cheap as possible.
Matter of opinion I guess, but I think you guys could do it. Sounds like you are going to make your own manifold anyways, unless I read wrong.

I figured I'd just offer the turbos if they could be used. I hope I didn't confuse anyone when I said I was throwing stuff away, and I just want to clarify that I do have these two turbos still.

[Fast420A]

If we find a manifold easier and or cheaper than making our own, we'd use it. If we have to make one to work, we will have to. I was thinking more of an issue with the oil drain and feeds, the piping from each turbo coming together, etc. I'm sure we can make them work, whats the specs on the turbo(s)?

[HMCK20]

no luck on a tranny yet but on my next day off im gonna go to some places and i will find one. ill keep ya posted

[Fast420A]

Here's a list of cars that were turboed from the factory that you may find in a junkyard with a working turbo on it. We may find a useable turbo here too.

http://www.mmon.org/techtips/turbo-cars.htm

[Josiah]

wont find a turbo capable of the power we want on anything except maybe a mitsubishi Fuso truck or maybe a ford F350 turbo diesel(or something similar)...otherwise it will have to be a nightmare twin turbo setup

[grindpunk16]

if you guys need some stage 0 03 injectors i have some sittin here that i cant use for over a year. Let me know if you need them ill ship them down from pa.

[Fast420A]

if you guys need some stage 0 03 injectors i have some sittin here that i cant use for over a year. Let me know if you need them ill ship them down from pa.

That may be what we have to do if no one has any that we can use. I am sure we can make them work with the MegaSquirt system. Thanks!

[grindpunk16]

fast just let me know where i need to send them to.......

[Fast420A]

I'll PM you my address so you can send them to me. Thanks again for helping get this project underway!

[Jap]

I say we use a holset HX35 ... Relatively cheap and has a T3 flange on it ..

[Fast420A]

I say we use a holset HX35 ... Relatively cheap and has a T3 flange on it ..

Aren't those from the Cummings Turbo Diesels? We could probably find one in a junkyard.

[Josiah]

not in any junkyard around here, but anyway, a t3 flange would be nice, as far as MegaSquirt goes...I thought we werent using it?(dont get me wrong, it would be nice to use, but it does still cost around $250 or so if you provide your own wires and GM sensors, unless of course you plan on assembling it yourself) sorry, I am keeping my MegaSquirt...

[Fast420A]

as far as MegaSquirt goes...I thought we werent using it?(dont get me wrong, it would be nice to use, but it does still cost around $250 or so if you provide your own wires and GM sensors, unless of course you plan on assembling it yourself) sorry, I am keeping my MegaSquirt...


Looks like if we build it ourselves it would be $130 for this one: http://www.diyautotune.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=27&products_id=28

That's not that bad but we would have to put it together and hope it works which sucks. Now if we don't do the Megasquirt we need something like an SAFC to make the large injectors idle with the Stage 0 SRT injectors. Megasquirt may not be a bad idea except that idling isn't much of an issue with a track only car.

[Jap]

I can get us an AFC for 50 bucks .... I can also make a map clamp if necessary ...

[F4A22]

I can get us an AFC for 50 bucks .... I can also make a map clamp if necessary ...


Gte me an afc for $50 bux.

[Fast420A]

Well if we get an AFC for $50 and a map clamp for cheap then using the RRFPR would be the cheaper way to go since I have the RRFPR already. I guess lets do that. We still need a car though...

[cali]

Map clamp free here. I can whip one up anytime. Just say the word.

[grindpunk16]

fast ill have the injectors out sometime this week probally tomorrow since ill be in town and out and about..... pa sucks!

[Fast420A]

No big deal man, when ever you can is fine, your doing us the favor here!

[Fast420A]

Any new word on a car yet? Once we find a car and a place to keep it, we can get started working on it.

[Dano Moparo]

Sorry no car yet. And I'm having trouble selling the blazer I got.

still looking tho.

[truffle_shuffle!]

We could go oldschool build a turbo omni.... light as fuck great power and a 2.5 with a g head could fit in there.

[Fast420A]

Or we could just throw a Turbo 2.4L with SRT internals in an Omni.

[truffle_shuffle!]

Or we could just throw a Turbo 2.4L with SRT internals in an Omni.
Hell Yeah.. I was just think about the look on peoples faces when the get monkey stomped by an omni... I was also thinking 2.5 turbos are just everywhere we could get one for pocket change... but a 2.4 with srt internal would be tits.

[Fast420A]

Does anyone have an Omni?