Enjuku boy

[Ian MMF]

http://www.tamparacing.com/forums/showthread.php?t=252653

Never answered my question, guess you just didn't go back to check? :dunno:

[Just Dave]

The power band of an SR IS bouncing off the rev limiter :lol:

Seriously though, the SR isn't a very torquey motor, so entering the turn in the next higher gear is out of the question. I damned sure wouldn't want to upshift during a drift, so that leaves us with bouncing off the limiter.

Remember too that once you start the drift, overpowering will simply spin the car out. You just need to feed enough power to keep the wheels spinning.

I learned all of this from Need For Speed Underground so I know its true :lol:

[Ian MMF]

This is what I thought but if you changed gears in the rear or swaped out gears in the trans for longer gears you could move the powerband vs. rpm around and seem to get it where you want it so youre not causing the extra stress of bouncing a car off the rev. limiter and have more room to "play" with the throttle.

[Just Dave]

The problem is all tracks are different. I suppose they could carry a selection of gear ratio's and change them to suit the track, but its not like a NASCAR race where you only have a couple of different turns to gear for, they may have big wide sweepers and tight hairpins in the same course.

[Pineapple]

Those motors rev fast, so I'm guessing it's hard to stay off the rev limiter.

[Ian MMF]

I know how fast they rev. I have a 2.0 myself with a lightened flywheel and clutch

Also why don't you guys go to like a soft rev setup?

[Jonas]

you CAN upshift mid drift... it is done... there is timing involved though... and there is reason to upshift.. and there is also reason for bouncing off rev limiter for short period of time mid drift , instead of upshifting...

[steve]

The power band of an SR IS bouncing off the rev limiter :lol:

Seriously though, the SR isn't a very torquey motor, so entering the turn in the next higher gear is out of the question. I damned sure wouldn't want to upshift during a drift, so that leaves us with bouncing off the limiter.

Remember too that once you start the drift, overpowering will simply spin the car out. You just need to feed enough power to keep the wheels spinning.

I learned all of this from Need For Speed Underground so I know its true :lol:
the power band goes all the way up to the rev limiter thats why people hang out up at the rev limiter
sr no torquey sorry for a i4 is does the job dam fine

yes you can up shift in a drift
(2nd too 3rd)

to find the right power to keep the wheels spining is just how big your balls are
theres only to slow

[steve]

as for gear ratio look up google for stock theres no need to change it

[box240mod]

you CAN upshift mid drift... it is done... there is timing involved though... and there is reason to upshift

indeed. if the turn is increasing radius (gets less sharp) then you'll have to speed up...
ex. FD Atlanta, the section AFTER the horseshoe, 2nd gear drifting into a 3rd gear for more speed... i believe matt said he did not upshift it there and let it rev bounce but there were those who did.

and there is also reason for bouncing off rev limiter for short period of time mid drift , instead of upshifting...

its like a drag racing launch, you let the wheels nearly catch up to the 'sustained' rpms, so when you shift- you are in the power band still and then boom, next gear to keep the revs away from the wheels (well in drag you let it catch, but you know what im saying)

[piner]

This is what I thought but if you changed gears in the rear or swaped out gears in the trans for longer gears you could move the powerband vs. rpm around and seem to get it where you want it so youre not causing the extra stress of bouncing a car off the rev. limiter and have more room to "play" with the throttle.

well if you wanted to do that the R200 has alot of gearsts you can get fro it from other cars if you want taller you could get the ring an pinion from a 87-88 V6 S12 those had 3.90s or if wanted taller than that you could go with z31's they had a few differnt ratios depending if they were auto or manual or turbo

or if you want lower gearing you could go with a R31 skyline gear set those were 4.30's thats what i had in my s12 but they are kinda weak for some reason (busted huge chunk out of my pinion gear) But man that thing could pull
1st gear only lasted to like 9mph it was like granny low but it made 2nd gear awesome for drifting

[santi]

lots of ppl up shift. i think hachi bill did it in hialeah.. harri does it.. me and greazy can do it in the rain so i imagine with power we'll still be able to do it .. i rather shift than bounce off the revlimiter for however long

[greazymule]

grabbing more gear is always fun but it would probably cause unnecessary wheelspin lowering your speed in a tight course like that and while trying to keep up with sam. but it looks like on the exit, many drivers grab a higher gear. i know i can spin 4th in a bone stock ka in the rain so 400+ hp guys should roast the shit out of 3rd.

[Matt Vassallo]

if my transmission would let me upshift, and the track was getting wider and faster , i would do it.

[TNathe]

:cough: sequential gearboxes :cough: :lol: Anyone use those out there?

[Ian MMF]

Why wont your transmission let you upshift

[Matt Vassallo]

i dont' know. i've changed the hydraulics, transmisssions multiple times, and i believe it's a clutch problem.

[Ian MMF]

What clutch are you guys using?

[piner]

yeah all upshiftering really gives you is more smoke

[Jonas]

thank yous box mod that was at the tip of my tongue being held back with a jolly rancher.

Jonas

indeed. if the turn is increasing radius (gets less sharp) then you'll have to speed up...
ex. FD Atlanta, the section AFTER the horseshoe, 2nd gear drifting into a 3rd gear for more speed... i believe matt said he did not upshift it there and let it rev bounce but there were those who did.



its like a drag racing launch, you let the wheels nearly catch up to the 'sustained' rpms, so when you shift- you are in the power band still and then boom, next gear to keep the revs away from the wheels (well in drag you let it catch, but you know what im saying)

[steve]

:cough: sequential gearboxes :cough: :lol: Anyone use those out there?

yeah tony shultz (sp) has a 4(or 5) speed sequential

[FreeThinker]

yeah tony shultz (sp) has a 4(or 5) speed sequential


You sure about that ?

I know Chris Forsberg is running one, I think it's an xtrac 5 spd. I know Kumakubo had a 4spd seq. in his S15 and I think he has a 5 or 6spd on the Impreza now.

Just a tip, an affordable and strong sequential can be had by getting an old Ford toploader 4 spd and buying a tex racing sequential shifter for it.


-Sean

[Just Dave]

You sure about that ?

I know Chris Forsberg is running one, I think it's an xtrac 5 spd. I know Kumakubo had a 4spd seq. in his S15 and I think he has a 5 or 6spd on the Impreza now.

Just a tip, an affordable and strong sequential can be had by getting an old Ford toploader 4 spd and buying a tex racing sequential shifter for it.


-Sean

Problem with that is, that box will never go into gear above 7k RPM's unless you put a ton of money into it.

[Matt Vassallo]

i will more than likely put a dog box h pattern transmission into my car for next year.

i love h pattern a bazillion times better than the sequential.

oh chris forsberg uses an HKS 6 speed, its parts inside are neither hollinger nor xtrac nor g force.