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w0rd
08-13-2005, 08:48 PM
and a video of my fastest run of the day, 40.5.

http://web.tampabay.rr.com/freshnclean/autox/

w0rd
08-14-2005, 07:52 PM
updated with new results and new video.

mofugga
08-14-2005, 09:38 PM
looked like a fun course

nunyo
08-14-2005, 09:56 PM
That would be a 46.517. Good run! I dunno what I was doing wrong but I couldn't get a clean run at a 46 pace. Ended up having my second run be my best result. I hate when that happens.

flmcoupe
08-15-2005, 12:12 AM
Great Event! Except for that nasty storm in the afternoon! Can't complain though, plenty of runs on Saturday! And the 4 runs in the morning are still more than I would get at a National event!

If I couldn't get FTD or win my class in 4 runs I probably won't be able to do it in 8! I suck! :(

MrSideways
08-15-2005, 12:20 AM
I dunno. 8 runs might have given me a shot at not being an idiot. 1 in 4 runs is a little much to ask!

Jamal any chance you can get some video up. I'd love to see my run in your car.

flmcoupe
08-15-2005, 01:32 AM
I wish I could Ian! We had to hurry and squeeze that last run on Saturday, I managed to turn the camera on but totally forgot to start recording! :mad: I never got that last run (FTD I bleieve?) in my car, or any of your runs in my car! That last run was just amazing! That's some serious driving dude! :nworthy:

I got some from both days, I'll try to post soon.

kbmwm3
08-15-2005, 12:45 PM
Thanks for all the hard work everyone did.
Great two days of racing. Was plenty hot - but still had fun.
Everyone put in some long days and it was worth all the work.
Courses were fun and challenging

Jamal do not be so hard on yourself
Practice - practice

Take care,
Keith R
JFF Racing
BMW 318i HS / M3 STU / and what ever else I can find

Ps - can some one check into my lack of any times for Sat Practice?

Rosko
08-15-2005, 01:19 PM
I second that. I had a great time. Thanks for the effort. Both courses were fun. Sunday's was sure different than what I've come to expect at Brooksville - in a good way. The approach / departure at the turnaround was specifically what I refer to. I thought it was great, but I had a tough time with it, as illustrated by 3 DNF's. Thank your lucky stars your memory isn't as bad as mine - especially when it comes to memorizing courses. If I can ever manage to find my way through a course, perhaps I can avoid humiliating myself.

Oh, and thanks for posting the results so quickly.

Loren
08-15-2005, 04:34 PM
Look ahead, Rosko. I've known many autocrossers who could show up at the last minute and just go drive an autocross course (a well-designed one... nothing awkward) having not walked it or even looked at a map and turn better times than 75% of the other drivers on their first run.

Perhaps you're relying too much on memory?

Muddy
08-16-2005, 09:49 AM
Look ahead, Rosko. I've known many autocrossers who could show up at the last minute and just go drive an autocross course (a well-designed one... nothing awkward) having not walked it or even looked at a map and turn better times than 75% of the other drivers on their first run.

Perhaps you're relying too much on memory?
I have done that many times myself (except for the 75% part :lol: ). It forces you to look ahead.

MrSideways
08-16-2005, 10:44 AM
Jesse ran saturday's course without walking it and he only hit 873 cones, but no off course.

Rosko
08-16-2005, 11:03 AM
Loren, I think you hit the nail on the head. It might be a good idea to have a layout of the course in your mind, but you are correct. Looking ahead would almost bypass that need. I've been told in the past, and I've read about it, and I watch tons of road racing, and can see the drivers doing it. However, I believe it's one of those skills in which it's easy to understand in theory, but a bit tricky to execute.

I think it was the most recent edition of one of those SCCA magazines, that Randy Pobst said he will sometimes grab the driver by the helmet and point him toward a turn later in the course. He said the lower your survival instinct is, the better you will be at looking ahead. :)

Nobody ever said driving fast was easy. I'll make this (looking ahead) my goal at my next autocross, and start thinking of ways to teach myself. I think seat time is the real answer, and I will continue to get as much as possible (read: as much as is allowed by wife / child).

Thanks for your insight.

RB240Mike
08-16-2005, 10:12 PM
Hey I've been there, I took my "defensive driving class" there what a joke that was...they told me it would lower my insurance but the insurance cmpany told me afterwards that it wouldn't...fucking waste of time that was....preety good though...that is at the airport on the runway right?

krekavhts
08-17-2005, 12:23 AM
Hey I've been there, I took my "defensive driving class" there what a joke that was...they told me it would lower my insurance but the insurance cmpany told me afterwards that it wouldn't...fucking waste of time that was....preety good though...that is at the airport on the runway right?

:wtf: :sadwave:

PseudoRealityX
08-17-2005, 02:29 AM
I'll make this (looking ahead) my goal at my next autocross, and start thinking of ways to teach myself. I think seat time is the real answer, and I will continue to get as much as possible (read: as much as is allowed by wife / child).

Thanks for your insight.


A technique developed by Sam Strano was to tape off the bottom portion of your windshield with masking tape. Make sure you angle it down toward the passanger side to make up for being further away though. I haven't tried this, but I'd really like to one day.

nunyo
08-17-2005, 10:02 AM
I'd thought of that but immediately dismissed it, thinking that there's no way I could get away with that from a safety standpoint. Seems like it would work for training the eyes, but intentionally eliminating part of your field of view seems like it would meet some resistance from event officials.

However if as you suggest there's precedence, I might have to give this a shot myself.

Muddy
08-17-2005, 10:04 AM
I think Sam uses that for Phase 3 of the Evolution course, not at a normal event.

PseudoRealityX
08-17-2005, 11:26 AM
Well unless a course worker decides to crawl upto your car, I don't see a problem.

Then again, there might be a reason why I'm not a SSS.

kbmwm3
08-17-2005, 03:36 PM
You take some thin tape 1/4 or 1/2 inch or pinstripe tape and put it on the outside of the windshield just a little lower than your normal field of view when properly seated and belted in your racing position.
You do not want it to block your view.

When you start making you runs - make a note of how many times you look below the line - if you are looking ahead you will never see or notice the line - it is kind of like having bifocals - teach yourself to always look through the top section of your windshield

Good luck,
Keith R
JFF Racing