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Big_V
05-31-2005, 12:05 PM
http://www.subarunews.net/images/subaru200701.jpg

http://img249.echo.cx/img249/2761/s42bp.jpg

http://img249.echo.cx/img249/948/s20xr.jpg

http://img249.echo.cx/img249/3809/s33kj.jpg

http://img249.echo.cx/img249/3386/s4sy.jpg



Didn't see this posted anywhere. If it is, go ahead and delete the thread.

fadedSTi
05-31-2005, 12:07 PM
http://www.subarunews.net/images/subaru200701.jpg

Didn't see this posted anywhere. If it is, go ahead and delete the thread.



It'll take some getting used to for sure.

More pics here: http://www.subarunews.net/images/


havent seen it before. like to see more pics of it but that link didnt work. says i dont have permission :dunno:

Big_V
05-31-2005, 12:10 PM
faded, I'll go ahead and post them.

fadedSTi
05-31-2005, 12:15 PM
faded, I'll go ahead and post them.


thank you sir. i think it looks decent. i prefer the 04-05 models. i dont like the midwing on the back window

:thumup:

fadedSTi
05-31-2005, 12:17 PM
now that i look at the pics again i really like the rear tail lamps(it looks like they will fit the 04-05s ;-) ) and i would really like a rear windsheild wiper. no changes to the motor is see.

Billy
05-31-2005, 12:28 PM
Don't know how I really feel yet about that "new face of Subaru".

fadedSTi
05-31-2005, 12:30 PM
Don't know how I really feel yet about that "new face of Subaru".


thats the main thing i dont like. thats all thats really different also. looks like a mazda front end

JonLGT
05-31-2005, 12:38 PM
The headlamps look like an 05 civic, but i want those taillights on my car. I still think its ugly.

schoellnasty
05-31-2005, 12:44 PM
Overall I prefer the 04-05 style. The new front looks killer on the Sti, but a little bland on the regular Impreza (maybe its the absence of a hoodscoop in those pics). Dont like the way the roof spoiler looks and Im undecided on the tailights. Anyone know if theyre switching to the 2.5L in the regular WRX?

davcivic
05-31-2005, 12:57 PM
I like it, I would not mind getting one, and I kinda like the new front. Everyone will prefer what thay own. I like the bugeyes better than the 04-05, but I own one. I actually went looking for an 02-03 not 04 when I went to buy the car, because I didn't like it, to me it look too much like a kia or hyundai. Now I like the 04-05 front but prefer 02-03.

If those are pics from the UK or Japan, our version might be a little different.

04evo2
05-31-2005, 01:02 PM
it looks ok, i'd take it but prefer the 04-05

Franklin
05-31-2005, 01:13 PM
It looks too exotic for me. The spoiler looks like an aftermarket one unless they decided to make it higher.

Sean_StI
05-31-2005, 01:44 PM
lets be honest with our selves, its uglier than shit...

Blueboost
05-31-2005, 01:48 PM
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y214/P4GTR/suby.jpg :puke:


WTF is wrong with these car designers. Hell, I could ink up a better front facia for them in 10 minutes.

SnowMann
05-31-2005, 02:21 PM
WTF is wrong with these car designers. Hell, I could ink up a better front facia for them in 10 minutes.
I bet you can...or maybe not. LONG LIVE THE 'TOOF
http://a332.g.akamai.net/f/332/936/12h/www.edmunds.com//pictures/VEHICLE/2004/Nissan/100285117/023047-E.jpg

kickslop
05-31-2005, 02:42 PM
Love the clean look of the front bumper below the weird center section and nice lights.

Love the added hood lines.

Not feeling the added spoiler at the top of the rear window.

Big_V
05-31-2005, 02:52 PM
Not feeling the added spoiler at the top of the rear window.

I wonder if that's to compete with the MR's "teeth"...?

davcivic
05-31-2005, 02:53 PM
The new front is supposed to represent subaru's heritage as airplane builders, yes they did build airplanes years ago, and their engines are still used to built a lot of DIY airplane kits, I huess the middle part is the body of the airplane, and the sides the wings of course.

I'm Slow
05-31-2005, 02:55 PM
I love it. I will be ordering in 2 months ;)

Big_V
05-31-2005, 03:06 PM
The new front is supposed to represent subaru's heritage as airplane builders, yes they did build airplanes years ago, and their engines are still used to built a lot of DIY airplane kits, I huess the middle part is the body of the airplane, and the sides the wings of course.

Yep, Mitsubishi Heavy Industries, manufactured the A6M Zero:

http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/1174/Zeros/zeron.JPG

davcivic
05-31-2005, 03:10 PM
Isn't it Fuji Heavy Industries, or were they Mitsu before.

I also believe Fuji Heavy Industries is linked to Fuji photo stuff, films, cameras, video, ETC.

I'm Slow
05-31-2005, 03:11 PM
The zero sux! Skyraider > the Zero :lol:

I'm Slow
05-31-2005, 03:11 PM
Isn't it Fuji Heavy Industries, or were they Mitsu before.

I also believe Fuji Heavy Industries is linked to Fuji photo stuff, films, cameras, video, ETC.


What about Fuji water?

Billy
05-31-2005, 03:13 PM
Fuji Heavy Industries Ltd. (FHI)

Fuji Heavy Industries Ltd. (FHI) traces its beginnings to Nakajima Aircraft Co., Ltd., founded in 1917. In the intervening years, the spirit of innovation at FHI has propelled the company to the top of the Japanese aerospace industry. The company's solid track record in fixed-wing aircraft includes delivery to the Defense Agency of the first domestic jet, the T-3 trainer, as well as the T-3 Mentor and T-5 Mentor trainers. Accumulating technological know-how with every aircraft, FHI's steady efforts were rewarded in 2000, when it was designated as the lead contractor for the new Mentor trainer, a follow-up to the T-3.

As for large passenger planes, FHI has been deeply involved in the manufacture of Boeing aircraft since 1973, including the 767 and most recently the 777. In a first for foreign partners, FHI is responsible for the vital center-wing section connecting the main wings and the fuselage. The company joined with Boeing at the design stage to address joint development and manufacture of this mission-critical part, earning it the "Supplier of the Year" award for the main structure ahead of 3,000 other suppliers around the world.


LINK (http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/japan/fhi.htm)

http://www.scramble.nl/mil/2/jasdf/gfx/photos/jmsdf-orbat-t5.jpg
FHI T-5

JonLGT
05-31-2005, 03:16 PM
I wonder if that's to compete with the MR's "teeth"...?

I would kill for some MR fins on my WRX... :naughty:

I'm Slow
05-31-2005, 03:25 PM
I would kill for some MR fins on my WRX... :naughty:


Then you are a ricer :lol:

Big_V
05-31-2005, 03:27 PM
The zero sux! Skyraider > the Zero :lol:

Depends on the pilot. ;)

813_05_STi
05-31-2005, 03:35 PM
I thought that was the 07 and the 06 was going to be 05 style?

davcivic
05-31-2005, 03:42 PM
it might be 06 in japan, like our 02 was out in 01 for them, and the 04 was out in 03 for them.

Charles
05-31-2005, 03:44 PM
:puke: :puke:

At least the 04-05 style was tolerable, seems like they get fuglier with every re-design. :thumbdwn:

Frankie Figs
05-31-2005, 03:49 PM
I would kill for a rear wiper. I still heart the bugeye :) It seems that Subaru is just throwing different front clips on the GD's

LeroyDriver
05-31-2005, 03:52 PM
i would like to see it in person, it may look better. still think the 04-05 looks better as of today.

anyone know of a HP increase?

I'm Slow
05-31-2005, 03:58 PM
i would like to see it in person, it may look better. still think the 04-05 looks better as of today.

anyone know of a HP increase?


I don't know about the new STi, but the New WRX is only supposed to gain 3 crank HP :? I read that for the New WRX the HP will be 230 as compared to the 227 currently.

schoellnasty
05-31-2005, 04:02 PM
I don't know about the new STi, but the New WRX is only supposed to gain 3 crank HP :? I read that for the New WRX the HP will be 230 as compared to the 227 currently.

Then I think its safe to say thats a negatory on the 2.5 for the regular rex.

Frankie Figs
05-31-2005, 04:04 PM
WHOA 3hp that would be like 1.7hp to the wheels!!!!! :whoa:

I'm Slow
05-31-2005, 04:09 PM
That's the thing.........It IS supposed to have the 2.5 :? I thought it was weird to have a 2.5 and only gain 3 hp.:dunno: maybe my info is incorrect, I mean I did read it off the internet:D

Bill
05-31-2005, 04:09 PM
I don't like the facelift what-so-ever. Seeing this makes me even happier for having an '05.

With that said though, I do dig some of the additions such as the rear under body difuser. I also find the rear window wing interesting. It'll be interesting to see in the coming months what '06 equipment can be transferred over to the '04-'05 models. I'm crossing my fingers for some type of climate control that lights up red instead of green. :D :D:D

davcivic
05-31-2005, 04:14 PM
That's the thing.........It IS supposed to have the 2.5 :? I thought it was weird to have a 2.5 and only gain 3 hp.:dunno: maybe my info is incorrect, I mean I did read it off the internet:D

Are they still using the same tranny?

It seems like a waste of time researching and shit for 3hp. When all the hardcore fans like the 2.0 better, and would rather have the ver 7 ej20

schoellnasty
05-31-2005, 04:21 PM
Are they still using the same tranny?

It seems like a waste of time researching and shit for 3hp. When all the hardcore fans like the 2.0 better, and would rather have the ver 7 ej20

See thats the thing. If they were switching to the 2.5 youd think theyd change the tranny too. It would only be logical since the 5MT is a bit weak. But then if they did switch to a 6 speed, that makes the Sti less of a deal. You could get the same block and tranny, just less power, for ~10K less. All you would need is a turbo swap and some EM for Sti like numbers.

I'm Slow
05-31-2005, 04:32 PM
See thats the thing. If they were switching to the 2.5 youd think theyd change the tranny too. It would only be logical since the 5MT is a bit weak. But then if they did switch to a 6 speed, that makes the Sti less of a deal. You could get the same block and tranny, just less power, for ~10K less. All you would need is a turbo swap and some EM for Sti like numbers.

But, That's all you need right now to get STi #'s on the 2.0 block. If the WRX comes w/ the 2.5 block, I can guarantee that it will still have the same 5 speed tranny. If they did decide to put the 2.5 as well as the 6 spd tranny then the WRX would be increased to start at like $28k and the STI at about $34. They would never do it!

schoellnasty
05-31-2005, 04:50 PM
But, That's all you need right now to get STi #'s on the 2.0 block. If the WRX comes w/ the 2.5 block, I can guarantee that it will still have the same 5 speed tranny. If they did decide to put the 2.5 as well as the 6 spd tranny then the WRX would be increased to start at like $28k and the STI at about $34. They would never do it!

Yeah theres no reason for them to upgrade the entire drivetrain. Even if they bumped the price, youre starting to get into Legacy territory at 28K. No sense in having 2 vehicles competing with each other. But then I dont see the logic in moving to a 2.5L block and not touching the trans. I mean if anything needs work its the gearbox; the 2.0L is great as is. Maybe theyre revamping the 5-speed too? Who knows. All this speculating hurst my head.:lol:

Frankie Figs
05-31-2005, 05:27 PM
maybe they did switch to the 2.5 and it gained more torque :dunno:

I'm Slow
05-31-2005, 06:00 PM
Yeah theres no reason for them to upgrade the entire drivetrain. Even if they bumped the price, youre starting to get into Legacy territory at 28K. No sense in having 2 vehicles competing with each other. But then I dont see the logic in moving to a 2.5L block and not touching the trans. I mean if anything needs work its the gearbox; the 2.0L is great as is. Maybe theyre revamping the 5-speed too? Who knows. All this speculating hurst my head.:lol:

I agree.

Zate
05-31-2005, 07:42 PM
no need to swap out the 5mt for 6 speed.. use the same 5MT thats in the legacy GT.. its a bit beefier than the 5mt in thr WRX i hear..

could be a 2.5L still.. the Forrester has a 2.5L and is 210 HP.

iffy on thelooks.. but more interested in the mechanical/performance diffs in the 06.

I'm Slow
05-31-2005, 07:50 PM
+1 The 2.5l w/ the Legacy GT tranny would be a great combo! And still cost efficient for Subaru

JonLGT
05-31-2005, 08:01 PM
Then you are a ricer :lol:

The scoop says it all.

I'm Slow
05-31-2005, 08:27 PM
:lol: I'm interested in it too! :lol: Just too rich for my blood!

Blueboost
05-31-2005, 08:37 PM
I bet you can...or maybe not. LONG LIVE THE 'TOOF
http://a332.g.akamai.net/f/332/936/12h/www.edmunds.com//pictures/VEHICLE/2004/Nissan/100285117/023047-E.jpg

H O T

scoobywrx
05-31-2005, 09:13 PM
Not to bad. Still love bugeyes the best. LOL

davcivic
05-31-2005, 10:33 PM
Damn, this thread brought out a bunch of lurkers. Awesome.

I like it, if I can hold for it or have the interest when it comes out I might buy one.

mantra1
05-31-2005, 10:51 PM
I'm loving my bugeye's even more now. When did Alfa Romeo designer's star working for Subaru?

StiGuy
06-01-2005, 01:50 AM
http://www.italiancar.com.au/pilot/art017.htm

Top Alfa Romeo design man joins Subaru
Andreas Zapatinas - the designer of the Alfa 147 and the FIAT Barchetta and Coupe sports cars - will move next month to Subaru to help Subaru overcome design difficulties with the WRX and Impreza models. Zapatinas, a 44-year old Greek designer trained at the Art Centre of Design in Pasadena USA and with a career that has taken him from Pininfarina to FIAT to BMW and back again, is currently head of design at FIAT-owned Alfa Romeo. Zapatinas' new position at Subaru is as Chief Designer of Advanced Design - he will be in charge of the design of all new models (not the new WRX which has already been completed) sg:*looks seem to indicate otherwise*and his key task is to make Subaru cars 'more palatable' sg:*huh???* for world markets.

© italiancar.com.au 13/04/02



I'm loving my bugeye's even more now. When did Alfa Romeo designer's star working for Subaru?

SnowMann
06-01-2005, 05:46 AM
no need to swap out the 5mt for 6 speed.. use the same 5MT thats in the legacy GT.. its a bit beefier than the 5mt in thr WRX i hear..

could be a 2.5L still.. the Forrester has a 2.5L and is 210 HP.

iffy on thelooks.. but more interested in the mechanical/performance diffs in the 06.
Trust me, the EJ255 in the Forester puts out more than 210. It regularly dynos at least 10whp more than the 227HP WRX.

Who knows, maybe the new WRX will get the beefy FXT tranny and 4.44 final drive.

BTW: Only 1 "R" in Forester. :-P

lstepnio
06-01-2005, 02:02 PM
My two cents is that it will have a "revised" transmission. People will still break it. People would be breaking the STi 6MT if it was sold in the standard 2.0 WRX 227hp. The problem really never was with the transmission, aside from a few minor issues w/ the early '02 WRXs.

Frankie Figs
06-01-2005, 03:25 PM
When did Alfa Romeo designer's star working for Subaru?

I was trying to think of what car it kinda reminded me of, and it definitely looks alot like an Alfa.

mantra1
06-01-2005, 05:10 PM
http://www.italiancar.com.au/pilot/art017.htm

Top Alfa Romeo design man joins Subaru
Andreas Zapatinas - the designer of the Alfa 147 and the FIAT Barchetta and Coupe sports cars - will move next month to Subaru to help Subaru overcome design difficulties with the WRX and Impreza models. Zapatinas, a 44-year old Greek designer trained at the Art Centre of Design in Pasadena USA and with a career that has taken him from Pininfarina to FIAT to BMW and back again, is currently head of design at FIAT-owned Alfa Romeo. Zapatinas' new position at Subaru is as Chief Designer of Advanced Design - he will be in charge of the design of all new models (not the new WRX which has already been completed) sg:*looks seem to indicate otherwise*and his key task is to make Subaru cars 'more palatable' sg:*huh???* for world markets.

© italiancar.com.au 13/04/02
Damn, I was just kidding about the Alfa Design look alike. I had no idea that someone from Alfa is actually designing Subarus! Go Figure :thumbdwn:

Zate
06-02-2005, 11:01 AM
Trust me, the EJ255 in the Forester puts out more than 210. It regularly dynos at least 10whp more than the 227HP WRX.

Who knows, maybe the new WRX will get the beefy FXT tranny and 4.44 final drive.

BTW: Only 1 "R" in Forester. :-P

yup.. i am gonn make a prediction .. the WRX will get the FoRester drive train basically.. they have the same chassis already.. its a natural fit in my eyes.. you can do nothing to the drivetrain. and claim 230 HP . lol..

if they do that i think i'll be back in a WRX.

QuickOne
06-02-2005, 12:52 PM
yup.. i am gonn make a prediction .. the WRX will get the FoRester drive train basically.. they have the same chassis already.. its a natural fit in my eyes.. you can do nothing to the drivetrain. and claim 230 HP . lol..

if they do that i think i'll be back in a WRX.


Correcto, it is on the exact same platform just a different skin and suspension ect.

I'm Slow
06-02-2005, 02:53 PM
So, couldn't you essentially just take a Forester Tranny and swap it into the WRX?? Has anyone tried this?

lstepnio
06-02-2005, 03:15 PM
So, couldn't you essentially just take a Forester Tranny and swap it into the WRX?? Has anyone tried this?

The Forester XT 5MT transmission should in theory bolt right up. I'm not sure on this but the gearing might not be ideal for a WRX. The other issue is that you're going to have a hard time finding a used XT transmission. I wouldn't try to buy a new transmission as it's going to be way too expensive for what it is (upgraded crappy 5MT).

Kevlar
06-15-2005, 04:20 PM
Just to set everyone in the right direction:

The redesign will be the 06 model. The 07 will supposedly be a complete redesign (probably with a similar front end at least), meaning that the 06 model will be the last model of the GDC chassis. The WRX will get the 2.5L engine, and while it only gains 3 HP, it gets almost 20 ft-lbs of torque. Up to 235 ft-lbs at 3600 RPM.

The weird 1.1:1 center ratio on the WRX is gone. It is now present on the STi.

The WRX 5MT now uses a 3.70 final drive front and rear, with the following ratios:

1st 3.454
2nd 1.947
3rd 1.366
4th 0.972
5th 0.738
Rev 3.333

Those are the same ratios as the current 5-speed, so... I wouldn't keep your hopes up about a stronger transmission. Of course, a lot of people say that the underlying problem of most of the failures is a weak transmission case, allowing for too much flex, so they could have upgraded the case and kept the same gears.

It's odd that they changed the final drive to 3.70, from 3.80 (IIRC). Someone said that with the larger diameter tires (The 06 WRX will come with 17's standard), the longer ratio is offset. Who knows.

The new wheels will be 17x7 with 215/45R17 W rated tires.

The WRX brakes will apparently be upgraded to the classic JDM/EDM STi 4-pot front brakes, with larger rotors, front and rear :-D.

The Premium Package will now supposedly include leather seats. There are also reports that there will be a base WRX, and a WRX "TR", or "Tuner Ready," likely meaning it essentially has stage-2 upgrades (maybe an STi uppipe, higher flowing exhaust, and some ECU work?).

Oh, and those pics are of the European model, so the US spec version could still be slightly different. I'm not a huge fan of the new grille, but it has grown on me. Am I the only one here who doesn't like the new tails? I think they look a little ricey. Whats with all these car companies thinking altezzas are suddenly the coolest, most desirable thing around? Damned ricers.

schoellnasty
06-15-2005, 05:14 PM
^^^^Where'd you get that info??? Just the rumors going around Nasioc? I would definitely welcome all of those changes. The brakes would be a good upgrade for us 02-05 owners if they clear the 16s and the new wheels have the same bolt pattern. The tuner ready version is interesting as well, though it would probably be a little down on power to keep competition away from the STi. Oh and Im definitely with ya on the new tails.

Kevlar
06-16-2005, 12:19 PM
Someone shared that on ClubWRX. I believe they got it from a Subaru employee who got a copy of the 06 service manual. Based on the degree of information it had, I'd say it was authentic. Oh, I forgot to mention. The 4EAT final drive ratio goes from 4.11 to 3.90 IIRC. Not a small change.

civicvxhatch
06-16-2005, 12:30 PM
looks like a pontiac in the front! Like the 04 better!

lstepnio
06-16-2005, 12:42 PM
The "Tuner Ready" version of the WRX is a rumor at best which IMHO almost certainly won't pan out to anything.

The rest of the information (mostly) has been publicly available on the techinfo.subaru.com site for serveral weeks now:

http://techinfo.subaru.com/html/ixSearchNkSm.jsp?level=1&model_year=2006&vehicle_line=Impreza+%28WRX+%26+STi%29

I'm impressed overall with the technical aspects of the vehicles...

My little fun predicition for the day is that the next generation (unlike the current facelift for '06) Impreza ('07+?) that is suppose to be a Legacy based platform will be produced in the USA. We'll also finally see an increase in the power output on the STi with the next generation Impreza. I'm also going to guess that we just might see the Impreza become a three door hatchback.

Kevlar
06-16-2005, 04:15 PM
Three door hatch Impreza?? I'll believe it when I see it.

Here are some new images of the 06 WRX/STI, released by Subaru. What a difference a professional photographer, and some post-processing does!

http://www.subaru.co.jp/impreza/special/gallery/s3_s.jpg

http://www.subaru.co.jp/impreza/special/gallery/s1_s.jpg

http://www.subaru.co.jp/impreza/special/gallery/s2_s.jpg

http://www.subaru.co.jp/impreza/special/gallery/s7_s.jpg

http://www.subaru.co.jp/impreza/special/gallery/s8_s.jpg

Looks good!

lstepnio
06-16-2005, 04:26 PM
http://derfotohof.net/autos/wrx/car_portal_pic_19383.jpg

I'd be willing to bet money that three out of my four predictions are right on. Any takers? I'm usually pretty good with these things when it comes to Subaru. ;)

Zate
06-16-2005, 04:29 PM
lol @ hatch.

Big_V
06-23-2005, 12:28 PM
Here's more from a guy on imprezawrxsti.com

http://www.woocha.com/photos/users/jmillward/photos/2006_m.JPG

http://www.woocha.com/photos/users/jmillward/photos/2006_l.JPG

http://www.woocha.com/photos/users/jmillward/photos/2006_j.JPG

http://www.woocha.com/photos/users/jmillward/photos/2006_i.JPG

Zate
06-23-2005, 02:51 PM
i like it cept for the tail lights.

I'm Slow
06-23-2005, 03:39 PM
Looks damn good. I will be getting one!

mantra1
06-23-2005, 04:58 PM
I thought the "altezza" tailight fad was over