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vincel
05-03-2005, 10:05 PM
What are the thoughts of fellow drifters on a high performance NA drift car. Of course it would be cheaper and easier to just get an SR20. But i am just wondering ur thoughts on the idea.
Epstein
05-03-2005, 10:51 PM
mattback's old KA powered wolverine car rocked hard, keeping up with and pushing SR powered cars. Hachi Bill's car was KA powered until recently, and that car performed with the best as well.

Get an intake, header, exhaust, and ROM tune, and you'll have plenty of power for entry level drifting. Also, don't discount the true cost of an SR20DET.... I mean $R20DET.
JC86
05-03-2005, 10:57 PM
or just do an n/a high comp sr20de????
paul kersey
05-03-2005, 11:20 PM
do whatever you can afford to do?
and make the best of that.
shawn_KA
05-04-2005, 01:35 PM
You don't need a turbo to drift. [/thread]
silviaivlis
05-04-2005, 02:15 PM
Ive just ordered a RWD sr20de. I'll let you know how it works.

Talk to the SER guys, they get upward of 200rwhp out of theyre -de's for decent price. either that or they cheat and throw on a gtir turbo/manifold/injectors with a rom tune and run about 300hp on stock internals. And that is cheaper than getting a det
silviaivlis
05-04-2005, 02:15 PM
200Front wheel HP i mean. . heh heh, silly wrong wheel drive cars. . . .
REY
05-04-2005, 02:21 PM
That grey S14 with the S15 front end and Chrome Work wheels at DDAY was ALL MOTOR
REY
05-04-2005, 02:29 PM
pic from midorigreen http://img41.echo.cx/img41/8812/mg95240gn.jpg
Pineapple
05-04-2005, 03:37 PM
That grey S14 with the S15 front end and Chrome Work wheels at DDAY was ALL MOTOR
Did he do good or something?
paul kersey
05-04-2005, 06:02 PM
the sr20de is a great motor, but not very powerful.
the only real advantages to swapping that motor in, are more reliability than the ka, and a much smoother motor.
and its very easy to turbo them with someone elses throw away parts.
REY
05-04-2005, 06:22 PM
Did he do good or something?


my point was that he had an NA car and he drifted on DDAY.. so you don't have to have a an SR20deT to drift
Ronald Mcdonald
05-04-2005, 11:46 PM
yeah, look at all the ae86's in d1...u def. dont need turbo to drift.
Ronald Mcdonald
05-04-2005, 11:46 PM
im gonna get flamed for that one...^ i dontknow why, i can just feel it coming
paul kersey
05-05-2005, 12:01 AM
i dont really get this thread.


you dont NEED a turbo to drift, and you dont NEED alot of othjer stuff besides a car, a steering wheel, and a driver.
everything else just makes it easier, more predictable, safer and more fun.
allh0pelost
05-05-2005, 09:57 AM
i would much rather have the control of an NA rather than a turbo. when you're revving around 5k 6k and you let off the gas, when you mash the gas again, you know exactly how much power will be applied to the wheels.

in a turbo, all the power is lost when you let off the gas. when you mash the gas again, the power isn't instantly there, boost needs to be built up again.

NA's are potent and have a much more stable powerband.
paul kersey
05-05-2005, 10:12 AM
i would much rather have the control of an NA rather than a turbo. when you're revving around 5k 6k and you let off the gas, when you mash the gas again, you know exactly how much power will be applied to the wheels.

in a turbo, all the power is lost when you let off the gas. when you mash the gas again, the power isn't instantly there, boost needs to be built up again.

NA's are potent and have a much more stable powerband.


you dont really understand what youre talking about.
if n/a was best, then 95% of the top drifters would run n/a instead.
depending on turbo size, and other factors, the drop off is barely noticeable.
allh0pelost
05-05-2005, 10:17 AM
when you've driven a turbo all your life and you first jump into an NA, it's a comletely different feel.

i don't know how it applies to drifting, but when it comes to control over the power of the motor, i'm right.

**edit** i never said NA's were the best, just that i would rather have one :whoa:
paul kersey
05-05-2005, 10:19 AM
whatever you say.
ryojikaji143
05-05-2005, 12:33 PM
do whatever you can afford to do?
and make the best of that.

Agreed, I run a single cam KA because I can't afford a better motor (and I like the SOHC) and I can hang with SR cars all day. Don't think that the motor makes all that much of a difference. Well...when you get up in high third gear you start seeing a difference ;-(
evlonedb
05-05-2005, 10:11 PM
[QUOTE=Epstein]mattback's old KA powered wolverine car rocked hard, keeping up with and pushing SR powered cars.

vincel knows first-hand the brute ferocity of the wolverine. lol

:-P
vincel
05-07-2005, 12:13 PM
nice posts keep em comin. say if i were gonna build my ka around NA (motor blew up). wat is the easiest/cheapest way to get the high comp. KA.
i heard rumors of using the SOHC block with a DOHC head???true or false/torque vs HP.......who makes decent cams (specific lift/brand)......and upgrades any where from minor to extreme.