so why are neons popular now(my rant)?

[neondriver]

i just dont get why the so called shitboxes became so popular. everyone use to put down neons forever. all the real neon owners for years knew about dropping a stratus 2.4 into there 1st gen and adding a turbo to make a fast car but still no one would touch them or respect them. so just because dodge mass produced a car which the real tuners have been working on for years there all of a sdden sought after?people are like srt-4's arent neons but take the front bumpers off a 04 neon and an 04 srt and switch them they fit perfect. most srt items can work on 1st gen neons, installing a turbo timer all the wires are the same colors and in the same places(for example). all these people are saying say no to rice. but with an srt all there geting is an 3rd gen neon with srt body-kit and a very up-graded engine.just a small rant. by far im not saying a regular neon is better or even close to an srt-4 but its annoying hearing people talking about there srt-4 and not even having a clue about neons.

[Josiah]

actally the 1st gen RTs and ACRs are as good as the SRT4 I think, except in the engine department, but I know how you feel, I have loved neons for years, more than a match for any equivalent honda or other NA sport compact, although I have taken full advantage of SRT parts IE, oil pump,water pump, etc for my 2.4, what really gets me is most of the neon techies(I say most here) are not SRT4 owners....I was on SRT4forums the other day and I was looking at all these newbie posts by new owners who think they know more than loyal mopar fans.....it gets on my nerves too, yes I love the SRT4, but I love the rest of the neon family too...then on floridaneons.org I was reading a post about a statewide SRT4 meet...as if regular neons arent good enough to for them(ps, this is not about most SRT4 owners here, just about some SRT4 owners in general and how they, and the rest of the sport compact world in general is condescending toward non-SRT4 neons in general, regardless of mods) I mean, when I talk cars with someone I'm always respectful of their ride, whether its a toyota tercel or a 429 mustang, I love cars in general and hate disparaging remarks like "but its still a neon" especially when its coming from someone who drives a 17 or 18 second car

[figment]

ive had a ACR since 96 and love it. ran 14's and out handled most cars. i think the first gen neons and the performance stuff is on its way out the door becouse of the srt. SCCA finally gave it a chance in IT so hopfully that will keep the aftermarket alive

[Josiah]

the aftermarket is alive and well as long as you can swap a 2.4 you have access to the SRT stuff for engine....SRT 4 suspension components(IE coilover spring sets) will fit as well if you upgrade to 2nd gen hubs, I have no fear of the aftermarket dying out anytime soon for my 1st gen, now if only i could say the same for my Fiero....

[cali]

This is to be expected esp when the car was is pretty dran cheap for the power it packs. When I got my car, hardly anyone knew what it was....nowadays,
I see all these ricer crossover fags on the road driving srt4's and they look over at me with the I got a 'fast' car attitude........sad thing is that they have no clue...

[Josiah]

heh, I guess its ok for them to come over to the domestic side when its the cool thing to do

[btownRT]

Yeah I hate it, too. It seems like everybody just wants to dismiss it as a Neon, and say oh well, regardless of power, its still just a neon. Oh fucking well. I'm proud I drive a Neon, and I could care less of what any of you assholes think. I'm sick of the Srt bitches too, that just ride around stock thinking they are hot shit when they bought the fucking car fast. I hate it. Yep, I drive a Neon, and I might not be able to kill your v8 shitbox, but I'll keep up with you, and I'd much rather take a Neon than that anyday. And I'm in a n/a 2.0 motor. So suck a dick haters.

[mpbiv]

I pretty much agree with what has been said. The SRT-4 owners are their own group for the most part probably because many of them are not real Dodge or Neon enthusiasts. It is annoying that most of them don't acknowledge older Neons or give them the respect they deserve, but thats the story with most other Dodges too.

Having an old school Turbo Dodge, I have already become used to getting no respect from others. I don't make any effort to argue my points with others, eventually they will learn the hard way.

[cali]

Looks whos alive....good to see ya posting :)

[Josiah]

hey, hey, not all SRT4 guys are bad now...just some of them, I hung out with a cool group not too long ago when they were at the dyno....

[neondriver]

well yah not all srt-4 owners are bad.my friend just got one and he always askes me questions about neons. he called me and was like guess what, i got a neon. then he was asking what good companies are stff like that.not all of them buy them and are like haha i have a fast car, but the ones that are i cant stand.

[mpbiv]

Looks whos alive....good to see ya posting :)
I still check the forum, I usually just don't have anything to say.

I hope no one takes my statement personally. Certainly not all SRT-4 owners fall into group I described, but it is a noticeable trend. Topics like these just get me fired up real quick.

[riven]

I read this thread and all I see is blah blah blah, neons suck...or blah blah blah I lost to one.

[BrYaN H]

I read this thread and all I see is blah blah blah, neons suck...or blah blah blah I lost to one.you forgot blah blah blah orange is the best blah blah blah

[Josiah]

I read this thread and all I see is blah blah blah, neons suck...or blah blah blah I lost to one.


??? I told you, I like neons af all sorts, and I have lost to an SRT4 before as well, but thats hardly surprising since I still have my boost set at 6psi till I get an upgraded clutch and axles(still using the 2.0L stock clutch and axles, its starting to slip now though, its held up to the 2.4 abuse for about 6 months now...pretty good for a clutch meant for 120ft lbs when it has around 200ft lbs being pushed through it daily) but my point is I think SRT4s are great, I'm glad that dodge made it and have been considering buying one down the road a bit, I just wish that SOME SRT4 owners wouldnt act like they are better than the rest of the neon community just because they went out and bought a quick car that came that way from the factory....its annoying to those of us like me who have completely rebuilt, swapped, and turbochargoed a 2.4L from the ground up, and some punk who just bought his SRT4 off the showroom floor is going to come along and tell me his SRT4 is better than my neon just because its an SRT4? :mad: Like I said, this is the attitude I get from some SRT4 owners....I love the cars, I like a lot of the owners....its just some that give SRT4 owners a bad name is all, next up....turning to boost up to 25psi and getting a new clutch and axles...... :evil:

[btownRT]

its annoying to those of us like me who have completely rebuilt, swapped, and turbochargoed a 2.4L from the ground up, and some punk who just bought his SRT4 off the showroom floor is going to come along and tell me his SRT4 is better than my neon just because its an SRT4?
Preach it, brotha. ;-)

[neondriver]

Preach it, brotha. ;-)

i agree

[BrYaN H]

lol its time for new school vs old school neon fight

[Dano Moparo]

True Mopar guys are much thicker skinned than other groups. I dont get offended easy, and deep down inside I know who has the baddest shit ever made. More Stratus RT's please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I had a 2000 Neon before the Stratus, I was heading north on 66th st in the left lane on night. A Toyo and a RX7 left the light hard, and I said "oh cool a race" so I launched the Peon, even with the head start I walked them down with a boner Neon . I'll never forget that kid winding out the RX7 looking over at some 40 yr old guy packing his shit. LOL

[BrYaN H]

True Mopar guys are much thicker skinned than other groups. I dont get offended easy, and deep down inside I know who has the baddest shit ever made. More Stratus RT's please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I had a 2000 Neon before the Stratus, I was heading north on 66th st in the left lane on night. A Toyo and a RX7 left the light hard, and I said "oh cool a race" so I launched the Peon, even with the head start I walked them down with a boner Neon . I'll never forget that kid winding out the RX7 looking over at some 40 yr old guy packing his shit. LOLlol greatest kill story ever :nworthy:

[stealthc9]

must have been one slow rx-7....seriously i've done alot of work on neons and they're easy to fix i'll admit but they're easy to break as well, on top of that wreck in a neon get clipped from the drivers side rear quarter panel, you won't be thinkin the neon is so great when your rear bumper support,bumper, and cover go flying across 6 lanes to the other side of the high way just after mid night on new years eve...they are slow and they crumble, I don't care how fast it is I can make my integra just as fast by doing the same thing but what do you know you do an ecu upgrade and get 25 horsepower and loose 3MPG i upgrade my ecu it economizes my MPG and upgrades my horse power and torque, I don't like neons except for the ACR, anyone who has driven an ACR i give much respect towards, but highlines,expresso's and everything else they aren't very good cars....but hey you like ur cars and I like my cars I respect you for looking at a goal....but dodge should have just stuck to vipers and trucks

[stealthc9]

here's a kill story for you and I have it on video will post soon, 95 dodge neon highline much work done beaten by a stock 89 cavalier z24 automatic

[Off-Topic]

dude wtf an who the fuck brings up 5 month old posts lol you are my hero

[stealthc9]

here's another kill story for dodge I was driving down SR54 in my 86 mercury cougar some kid thinking he's a hardass driving a stratus r/t is racing an intrepid we get to the madison stop light they're revving there engines they're racing I floor it and pass them then they try to go in front of me the kid in the stratus changes lanes and i go in front of him I waste him all the way to little road and I sand bag it a lil so he can try to pass then i gun it....2.4 liter stratus PFF nothing scary my cougar was running the 3.8liter V6 then it broke down now I have my 89 integra 1.6liter DOHC that isn't running yet but soon and I have a 92 lincoln towncar w/ 4.6liter overhead cam V8 and a 92 plymouth colt running a 1.5 SOHC I've raced cars of many haven't lost as much as i've won but i've lost plenty but have fun all the time

[stealthc9]

dude wtf an who the fuck brings up 5 month old posts lol you are my heroi do because hey if any place to post this why not here ya know

[Skittle]

NEW FLASH!!!!!!!!!!!

NeonDriver is a fag!

[neondriver]

NEW FLASH!!!!!!!!!!!

NeonDriver is a fag!

:whoa: 5 months old, aparently your gonna kick my ass? i work tomorrow 9am come find me if you want some. you already know what neighborhood i live in it shouldnt be hard

[Skittle]

:whoa: 5 months old, aparently your gonna kick my ass? i work tomorrow 9am come find me if you want some. you already know what neighborhood i live in it shouldnt be hard

You know they always say...Trouble will come knocking on your door :wink:

[Blueboost]

one!!1 more neon.. (NEVAR l0se!!1) thread, and I think im.. gonna (nevAr!!1) l0sE it 1!! :tard:

[Dano Moparo]

must have been one slow rx-7....seriously i've done alot of work on neons and they're easy to fix i'll admit but they're easy to break as well, on top of that wreck in a neon get clipped from the drivers side rear quarter panel, you won't be thinkin the neon is so great when your rear bumper support,bumper, and cover go flying across 6 lanes to the other side of the high way just after mid night on new years eve...they are slow and they crumble, I don't care how fast it is I can make my integra just as fast by doing the same thing but what do you know you do an ecu upgrade and get 25 horsepower and loose 3MPG i upgrade my ecu it economizes my MPG and upgrades my horse power and torque, I don't like neons except for the ACR, anyone who has driven an ACR i give much respect towards, but highlines,expresso's and everything else they aren't very good cars....but hey you like ur cars and I like my cars I respect you for looking at a goal....but dodge should have just stuck to vipers and trucks


Yeah I almost forgot about that story. The RX-7 was indeed a POS, it sounded like my washing machine with an unbalanced load.

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here's another kill story for dodge I was driving down SR54 in my 86 mercury cougar some kid thinking he's a hardass driving a stratus r/t is racing an intrepid we get to the madison stop light they're revving there engines they're racing I floor it and pass them then they try to go in front of me the kid in the stratus changes lanes and i go in front of him I waste him all the way to little road and I sand bag it a lil so he can try to pass then i gun it....2.4 liter stratus PFF nothing scary my cougar was running the 3.8liter V6 then it broke down now I have my 89 integra 1.6liter DOHC that isn't running yet but soon and I have a 92 lincoln towncar w/ 4.6liter overhead cam V8 and a 92 plymouth colt running a 1.5 SOHC I've raced cars of many haven't lost as much as i've won but i've lost plenty but have fun all the time


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I wouldn't brag too much on beating a heavy ole FJ body witha 2.4L. I've got a 3.0L version that would make short work of all of the vehicles you have listed. And its still not what I call fast.

["?"]

I remember way back when I bought my 96 acr. We were literally making our own preformance parts for it. My friend John took his 97 acr to Capt Nemos and had him swap in a 2.4l and his car ended up in one of the mags. His car was evil!, I remember how hard it was to get used to driving it. I was so pissed when I found out that the 2.4 turbo was coming out becaue at the time I couldn't get one. Now I have one and now I want is my old acr back

[stealthc9]

ya well reuardless i was just stating that dodges aren't bad but they're not my kind of car and alot of people think they're hard w/ there for the most part stock motor except for a CAI and a fancy 25 cent muffler, if you actually do things to your vehicles then awsome but would ur 3.0 beat a 75 corvette stingray or a 34 ford model t replica w/ a high performance 350 i don't think so but still anyhow i'm gonna get back to workYeah I almost forgot about that story. The RX-7 was indeed a POS, it sounded like my washing machine with an unbalanced load.

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here's another kill story for dodge I was driving down SR54 in my 86 mercury cougar some kid thinking he's a hardass driving a stratus r/t is racing an intrepid we get to the madison stop light they're revving there engines they're racing I floor it and pass them then they try to go in front of me the kid in the stratus changes lanes and i go in front of him I waste him all the way to little road and I sand bag it a lil so he can try to pass then i gun it....2.4 liter stratus PFF nothing scary my cougar was running the 3.8liter V6 then it broke down now I have my 89 integra 1.6liter DOHC that isn't running yet but soon and I have a 92 lincoln towncar w/ 4.6liter overhead cam V8 and a 92 plymouth colt running a 1.5 SOHC I've raced cars of many haven't lost as much as i've won but i've lost plenty but have fun all the time


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I wouldn't brag too much on beating a heavy ole FJ body witha 2.4L. I've got a 3.0L version that would make short work of all of the vehicles you have listed. And its still not what I call fast.

[Dano Moparo]

ya well reuardless i was just stating that dodges aren't bad but they're not my kind of car and alot of people think they're hard w/ there for the most part stock motor except for a CAI and a fancy 25 cent muffler, if you actually do things to your vehicles then awsome but would ur 3.0 beat a 75 corvette stingray or a 34 ford model t replica w/ a high performance 350 i don't think so but still anyhow i'm gonna get back to work

I'm not sure how to reply. You dig up a 5 month old thread so you can flame on Dodge'. Did you miss out on the other 2 that got locked in gen. chat?

Compare my Stratus to a stroked 32? c'mon. But now the vette in 75 was about the slowest model ever built. I beat one 20 years ago driving a 78 Chevy pick up that I use to deliver appliances in. I think they went 15-16 sec. in the 1/4, so yeah I could race that.

BTW if I'm gonna come on here and internet bench race, I'm not gonna use my Stratus, GMC, or some former car I use to have. :naughty:

[MidnightAssassin]

why dont you stop your fuckin wining and get yourself an real neon and bitchin

[stealthc9]

I have a 75 vette stingray so i'm not bench racing http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/tunedcolt/album?.dir=1d1c&.src=ph&store=&prodid=&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/ph//my_photos there's a link it shows pics of the stingray and well if the stingray was stock then u may have a chance but it's got lotsa work done to it stuff tthat my father did to it and all i know is it's one of the fastest cars i've riden in well besides my dads model T.....so no bench racing here buddy

[stealthc9]

hmm one car i miss tho is my brothers old plymouth duster....now that was a fast car

[neondriver]

I'm not sure how to reply. You dig up a 5 month old thread so you can flame on Dodge'. Did you miss out on the other 2 that got locked in gen. chat?

Compare my Stratus to a stroked 32? c'mon. But now the vette in 75 was about the slowest model ever built. I beat one 20 years ago driving a 78 Chevy pick up that I use to deliver appliances in. I think they went 15-16 sec. in the 1/4, so yeah I could race that.

BTW if I'm gonna come on here and internet bench race, I'm not gonna use my Stratus, GMC, or some former car I use to have. :naughty:

true about slow corvetts, i think 80 was the worst (or what ever year they first came out with the crossfire fuel injection.) my dad has a 78, damn good torque off the line but thats about it, all in all he said an srt-4 might be able to beat him after he drove one on a test drive.

hmm one car i miss tho is my brothers old plymouth duster....now that was a fast car

i like the old dusters my friend just sold his. the thing was pretty fast but he hated spending so much money on it, he realised going to school was more important than spending $1K on heads.

[Dano Moparo]

I have a 75 vette stingray so i'm not bench racing http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/tunedcolt/album?.dir=1d1c&.src=ph&store=&prodid=&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/ph//my_photos there's a link it shows pics of the stingray and well if the stingray was stock then u may have a chance but it's got lotsa work done to it stuff tthat my father did to it and all i know is it's one of the fastest cars i've riden in well besides my dads model T.....so no bench racing here buddy

Yeah your bench racing, and your not good at it. Your using your dads and brothers cars. :dunno:
Those wrinkle walls off an 80 vette look pretty mean on there, so's you'll prob get me good on a dig. But when that front bra blows off and covers your windshield and you have to brake, I'll get you then.

See you have to be able to do it and have fun with it too. :)

And a 32 isn't a Model T maybe a 23, but not a 32.

I do admire the fact that you have a 92 Colt that is still running. Far outlasting the normal 7 year life span of most Jap products.

Let me know what the fastest car YOU have ever driven. And then we can bench race some more. I'm old and gots all kinds of stories. :lmao:

[srt tuner]

the car has its set backs and is expensive to make big power stage 3 is way too expensive its better to just get a rwd car

[stealthc9]

either way the vette is mine the t-bucket is my dads and all i said was I liked my brothers duster he had till the son of the original owner tracked it down and bought it from us, and no i'm not bench racing and if I wanted to use my dads cars i'd bring out his '70 fast back he had b4 i was born or his '56 vette that killed his best friend cuz a drunk driver hit them which is how he got the fastback....or bring out my moms old GTO or something so no i'm not bench racing....i'm just sayin the vettes mine,colts mine,integras mine and the lincoln is mine, t-bucket is dads, maverick is dads, pt cruiser is moms, so reguardless i've had fun in this forum not flamming on anyone but dodge went horrid on tuners....now the colt doesn't take much to be made fast just swap in a mitsubishi 2.0t or a 2.4t and it'd waste any neon or srt-4 out there because of it's weight......that was the plan w/ the colt but instead i decided to keep the colt as a back up incase i don't feel like driving the lincoln while the acura when it's completed is the race car and the vette needs a full brake job so it won't stop LOL

[stealthc9]

oh and fastest car i have ever driven well i believe that would have to be an integra it's speedomete ends at 130 it was pegged so I slowed my ass nearing 5 1/2 k i didn't wanna go faster i'd assume it was around 135-140 area.......fastest in the colt before tranny fucked up was 130 when racing the eclipse that I used to own (i traded the eclipse for the colt) that's the black 92 eclipse in my photos....wasted the eclipse the kid i traded was pissed altho i told him not to try to race me w/ a blown head gasket oh well but in that race we were racing a 96 civic that killed us both and the eclipse overheated of course so we changed the head gasket i told him the head was cracked and warped he didn't believe me he said no its just grease well head totally fucked up and i gloated in his face not my problem...but ya other then tranny issues colts been a good car despite tranny shop Atex transmissions in port richey rebuilt the tranny it messed uo twice they said bellhousing was cracked they were suppose to get me a new tranny but instead they gave me a hyundai tranny and now that's slippin bad so time to take it back again

[stealthc9]

colt had something done to the cams, p+p head,TB,exhuast,CAI,straight through cat etc. stock it has 89hp after work done 127

[Dano Moparo]

cool

[Josiah]

an Integra is the fastest car you have ever driven? umm do you mean top speed or acceleration? just so you know, top speed is not a matter of horspower so much as transmission gearing, and hondas generally have rather low gearing to make up for their lack of torque, heck, my neon has a theoretical top speed of 175mph at redline in 5th...the fact that the only place I would have a long enough stretch to get up there would be somewhere on an interstate in Montana is beside the point, that is a nice amount of power out of the colt though

[stealthc9]

i know about top speed and everything but thanks for the lesson in physics, and engineering....umm it took maybe 25-28seconds tops to get the speedometer pegged in the teg.....acceleration I dunno what the fastest is i've driven....i know that's a nice amount of power out of a lil 1.5 mitsubishi I wanna know what was done to the cam tho cuz u can't find performance cams for that, unless they got a 1.6 cam but 1.6 is dohc either way car tune automotive told me this so either way i don't care.....nice car tho dano