My View (not that you give a shit)

[_Charles_]

Something big is going to happen in Florida in 2005. I wish I could say it is going to be an explosion, but a digress. I predict an implosion.

D G T R I A L S successfully brought the first drift events to Florida. As a responsible sanctioning body, they have looked out for those that drift, and turned down events that did not meet certain safety requirements (sometimes against popular choice).

The fact of the matter is, D G T R I A L S has probably sanctioned more Drift events on US Soil than anybody else.

While I agree that competition is good, at the current growth of the sport, something will have to give. I don't think central Florida is ready for such an influx of events.
D G T R I A L S pretty much promises a SAFE place to practice, albeit at a slightly higher price. They held events when nobody else would,

I-4 Drift (for lack of a better name) has also arrived on the scene, promising more frequent events at a cheaper cost.

Between the 2 of them,D G T R I A L S has what it takes to get it done. They always has. I-4 Drift on the other hand, has held 1 "semi-successful" event, and decided to bombard the schedule with there events, in an attempt to drive out D G T R I A L S (IMHO). With only 1 event under their belt, they think they can now host 2 events a month. Hmmmmm.

How will this hurt the drifting community in Florida? D G T R I A L S is like a watchdog for us. They care that we don't go out and wreck our cars in unsafe conditions, they are their for us. With I-4 drifts current schedule, people will be forced to choose 1 or the other. If D G T R I A L S can not cover costs, they will pull out of Florida INDEFINETELY.

So, I-4 Drift wins, right? Yes, but WE LOSE. The only reason I-4 Drift can offer such cheap fees is because they use the tracks insurance. How many times can you go around the lakeland track until you get bored?

The minute I-4 Drift trys to seek other locations, they too will have to purchase insurance to cover the event, and GUESS WHAT! Price skyrockets.

So let's face it, Central Florida IS NOT big enough YET for the 2 of them. In the next few months, drivers will have to choose which is more important to them. Making left turns at Lakeland for the near future, or paying a little extra to have variety.

Now, Yes, I attended the first Lakeland event, and it was okay and all, but I WILL NOT BE RETURNING. My Support lies with D G T R I A L S. They are professional, more organized, and offer better potential to expand our skills.

You may or may not agree with me. This has been my thought for some time, and with the ambitious schedule that I-4 Drift has proposed, I feel it only right that I discuss my thoughts. I expect this thread to become a Flame War, but I still think it needs to said

[paul kersey]

cliffs notes please.

[teddy]

Originally posted by dr. octogon
cliffs notes please.

'Sand in Vag' Cliff Notes

-Who gives a fucking shit.
-Go to an event if you want to.
-Don't go to an event if you don't want to.

/End 'Sand in Vag' Cliff Notes

[Philly Blunt]

omg i will die if dg trials goes away i have no intentions of even showing up at I-4 it looks stupid with like 3 turns and ocala has the best course around! please dg dont leave us

[Mike]

Originally posted by philly blunt
omg i will die if dg trials goes away i have no intentions of even showing up at I-4 it looks stupid with like 3 turns and ocala has the best course around! please dg dont leave us

its up to the people the fate i beleve.. want it to stay, go to ocala also..

[P_Productions]

LOL....I remember when everyone complained of there not being enough events......now we have the oppertunity to go to 2 events and have a monthly events......and all of a sudden i see a few people already complaining?.......What teh?.........Seat time is seat time..........wether it be cheap or expensive. Gotta pay to play! Or do it in the streets and risk jonny law coming for ya!


I love Ocala and I love Lakeland.........and I hope that there are even more events!!!

Stop the whining!!! Friggin idiots......GOSH!

[paul kersey]

its a shame that the future of safe, well organized events are being put into jeopardy by people greedy to cash in.

[_Charles_]

Originally posted by P_Productions
LOL....I remember when everyone complained of there not being enough events......now we have the oppertunity to go to 2 events and have a monthly events......and all of a sudden i see a few people already complaining?.......What teh?.........Seat time is seat time..........wether it be cheap or expensive. Gotta pay to play! Or do it in the streets and risk jonny law coming for ya!


I love Ocala and I love Lakeland.........and I hope that there are even more events!!!

Stop the whining!!! Friggin idiots......GOSH!

We went from 5 events in 2004 to 3 events in February 2005.

Yes, it's 'pay to play', but face the numbers. $90 DDAY6, $60 for 2 lakeland events, and let's not forget repairs, upgrades, and TIRES.

D G T R I A L S has made it pretty obvious last year that they anticipated a bunch of events this year, but with the influx of new events, I don't see this happening. D G T R I A L S does NOT make really $$$ at these events.

While DDAY3 had - 300 Spectators / 52 Drivers (a profit situation), DDAY5 had - 150 Spectators / 26 Drivers. These 2 events washed out to a break even situation.

Yes, seat time is seat time, but like I said, only 1 will float in central Florida.

I KNOW I can not afford to attend all of these events. I can barely afford to attend DDAY6, but I'll be there.

Remember, it's not like ALL of D G T R I A L S events have been 'sold-out'. Not even I-4 Drift 'sold-out' in there 1st event. Point is, there are simply not enough drivers/$$$ for both.

[Jonas]

charles... ther is nothing wrong with using the same track the same time... wanna know why? because by using the SAME track you can easily try new methods for technique, different suspensions settings, and different tire set ups... KNOWING their conditions based on the same track...

you nor anyone else is a master at any track here locally... so therefore i beleive that if you drift correctly with the goal of learning... there is no such ting as getting tired of a track...

sure dg trials have safe events.... so go to them... quit preaching about other people's events...

just because allstate might have better insurnace packages than statefarm does it give them the right to brag? hey man you are safer with us etc etc/...

[hachibill]

well i think seat time is seat time. i also think that both events will attrack different crowds so there should be room for both parties. i personally like ocala alot and hope we always have events there. although i think they should be alittle cheaper. $75 seems a fair price for pre-register, $90to 100 day of. also charles D g trails wouldn't be puttin on events either if ther wasn't any money in it. there are 2 sides to every story and i think this post should be deleted do to the inevitabl influx of drama its bound to produce. again, i should be a mod in here, but whatever.

[_Charles_]

Originally posted by hachibill
well i think seat time is seat time. i also think that both events will attrack different crowds so there should be room for both parties. i personally like ocala alot and hope we always have events there. although i think they should be alittle cheaper. $75 seems a fair price for pre-register, $90to 100 day of. also charles D g trails wouldn't be puttin on events either if ther wasn't any money in it. there are 2 sides to every story and i think this post should be deleted do to the inevitabl influx of drama its bound to produce. again, i should be a mod in here, but whatever.

Can you afford all 3 events in Feb? and have enough left over for at least 2 if not 3 in march? and this does not include going to Miami to win some cool prizes....

Don't fool yourself thinking that there are enough people out there willing to dish out big bucks every month, because there isn't.

and no, this thread shouldn't be deleted. it brings up very good issues, whether you agree with them or not.

[sidenote to bill: If you truly think that BOTH events can coincide with each other, than prove it. Make sure BOTH events sell out every event thru May 2005, than I will believe you.]

on yet another note. Yes, ******** is out there to make some $$$, but I assure you that Kyle is not about to buy a new house on a lake with the profits. Funny thing is, the guy spearheading lakeland, well, I've never heard of him. I've never seen him on the track, hell, he couldn't even bring his own car to his own event, he brought a FORD RANGER. Why should I trust him?

[n2ocamry]

to be honest with you guys

I HAVEN'T BEEN TO A SINGLE EVENT

yet ive torn up so many tires on the street and in desolate locations that it really isnt funny

so why don't all you bitches/whiners that are complaining about money here and money there realize that drifting is a mother fucking hobby- meant to have mother fucking fun

if the events close down whooptity shit, what the hell did we do when the events were not even here

we drifted on whatever the hell we could, whenever we could, however we could- and you know what, there isnt a single time that i can remeber that i actually gave a fuck


wanna know why


cause its a mother fucking fun hobby

thats it


the sooner you fucktards realize that
the sooner you'll start havin fun


and if you get a ticket whooptity shit again

TY TRAYNER
ATTORNEY-AT-LAW
602 CHANNELSIDE DRIVE
TAMPA, FLORIDA 33602
813-229-1912
FAX 8132293476


100 A TICKET WHICH YOU WILL RARELY GET

OR 40-100 EVERY OTHER WEEK

NO OFFENSE BUT YOU DUMBASSES CAN KEEP YOUR EVENTS

ILL JUST BE ON THE STREETS TEARING IT UP, WHICH WERE I BELIEVE IS THE REAL CHALLENGE

[Funk]

Originally posted by n2ocamry
ILL JUST BE ON THE STREETS TEARING IT UP, WHICH WERE I BELIEVE IS THE REAL CHALLENGE


biggest fucking idiot award.


p.s.
hello intial d

[n2ocamry]

okay MR. IHAVEABEATTOSHIT240WITHAWELDEDDIFFIWANT3200FOR

IM AN IDIOT

WHERE THE FUCK DO YOU THINK IT STARTED YOU LITTLE FUCKTARD

INTIALDINITIALD

DID I SAY ANYTHING ABOUT INITIAL D

NO

YOU DID


I HAVE A QUESTION
WHEN YOUR NOT AT AN EVENT WERE DO YOU SUPPOSEDLY PRACTICE

IM GONNA LEAN OUT ON A BRANCH HERE AND SAY

ON THE GOD DAMN MOTHER FUCKING STREET


AND YOUR CALLING ME AND IDIOT


HOLY SHIT

I REALLY THINK YOU NEED TO BE PUSHED BACK INTO YOUR MOTHER CAUSE I DONT THINK YOUR DONE COOKING YET


HEH...INITIAL D

WHAT AN ASSJACK

[driftchik]

Originally posted by n2ocamry
to be honest with you guys

I HAVEN'T BEEN TO A SINGLE EVENT

yet ive torn up so many tires on the street and in desolate locations that it really isnt funny

so why don't all you bitches/whiners that are complaining about money here and money there realize that drifting is a mother fucking hobby- meant to have mother fucking fun

if the events close down whooptity shit, what the hell did we do when the events were not even here

we drifted on whatever the hell we could, whenever we could, however we could- and you know what, there isnt a single time that i can remeber that i actually gave a fuck


wanna know why


cause its a mother fucking fun hobby

thats it


the sooner you fucktards realize that
the sooner you'll start havin fun


and if you get a ticket whooptity shit again

TY TRAYNER
ATTORNEY-AT-LAW
602 CHANNELSIDE DRIVE
TAMPA, FLORIDA 33602
813-229-1912
FAX 8132293476


100 A TICKET WHICH YOU WILL RARELY GET

OR 40-100 EVERY OTHER WEEK

NO OFFENSE BUT YOU DUMBASSES CAN KEEP YOUR EVENTS

ILL JUST BE ON THE STREETS TEARING IT UP, WHICH WERE I BELIEVE IS THE REAL CHALLENGE





YOUVE GOT TO BE KIDDING ME

I'VE NEVER SEEN YOU ON THE STREETS OR AT EVENTS AS YOU STATED DRAFTER

"we drifted on whatever the hell we could, whenever we could, however we could- and you know what, there isnt a single time that i can remeber that i actually gave a fuck"


A SINGLE TIME YOU COULDNT REMEMBER???? IN WHAT THE LAST WEEK?

trust me everyone wants to drift, sorry if we dont want to pay around 500 dollars when we get caught for doing it on the streets or use attorney and pay out the ass for them. When we can pay $90 have a save sanctioned event, and not one where a bunch of people i dont trust tandem next to me.


everyone pays to be safe and enjoy THEIR HOBBY

[driftchik]

Originally posted by n2ocamry
okay MR. IHAVEABEATTOSHIT240WITHAWELDEDDIFFIWANT3200FOR

IM AN IDIOT

WHERE THE FUCK DO YOU THINK IT STARTED YOU LITTLE FUCKTARD

INTIALDINITIALD

DID I SAY ANYTHING ABOUT INITIAL D

NO

YOU DID


I HAVE A QUESTION
WHEN YOUR NOT AT AN EVENT WERE DO YOU SUPPOSEDLY PRACTICE

IM GONNA LEAN OUT ON A BRANCH HERE AND SAY

ON THE GOD DAMN MOTHER FUCKING STREET


AND YOUR CALLING ME AND IDIOT


HOLY SHIT

I REALLY THINK YOU NEED TO BE PUSHED BACK INTO YOUR MOTHER CAUSE I DONT THINK YOUR DONE COOKING YET


HEH...INITIAL D

WHAT AN ASSJACK


woah woah settle down there hoss and buy a dashboard for your car!

[n2ocamry]

dash is in paint shop right now and i never go out with other cars

when alot of people go they tend to want to show off and that is when the stupidity is unleashed

and when did you ever see my dash

along with where have you been i havent seen you on here in a while

[driftchik]

1. I have gone to every event except maybe 2, and it doesnt matter if i post on here a lot or not.


2.If you dont have anything relevnt to post in this thread then stop.

[Funk]

Originally posted by n2ocamry
okay MR. IHAVEABEATTOSHIT240WITHAWELDEDDIFFIWANT3200FOR

IM AN IDIOT

WHERE THE FUCK DO YOU THINK IT STARTED YOU LITTLE FUCKTARD

INTIALDINITIALD

DID I SAY ANYTHING ABOUT INITIAL D

NO

YOU DID


I HAVE A QUESTION
WHEN YOUR NOT AT AN EVENT WERE DO YOU SUPPOSEDLY PRACTICE

IM GONNA LEAN OUT ON A BRANCH HERE AND SAY

ON THE GOD DAMN MOTHER FUCKING STREET


AND YOUR CALLING ME AND IDIOT


HOLY SHIT

I REALLY THINK YOU NEED TO BE PUSHED BACK INTO YOUR MOTHER CAUSE I DONT THINK YOUR DONE COOKING YET


HEH...INITIAL D

WHAT AN ASSJACK

i practice at events u dumb mother fucker. go drive your camry around. fucking queer. need to be pushed back into my mother holy fuck thats the gayest line ive ever heard. you call you your corolla a hachi. what a fucking ricer. grow the fuck up and go to events. and if my 240 is beat to shit oh well. thats because i know how to drift it. and 3,200 is an amazing price. if u subtract all the parts from it u care getting a running car for about 800$.

shut up and die u fucking wet anus

[Laurentz]

Originally posted by n2ocamry
okay MR. IHAVEABEATTOSHIT240WITHAWELDEDDIFFIWANT3200FOR

IM AN IDIOT

WHERE THE FUCK DO YOU THINK IT STARTED YOU LITTLE FUCKTARD

INTIALDINITIALD

DID I SAY ANYTHING ABOUT INITIAL D

NO

YOU DID


I HAVE A QUESTION
WHEN YOUR NOT AT AN EVENT WERE DO YOU SUPPOSEDLY PRACTICE

IM GONNA LEAN OUT ON A BRANCH HERE AND SAY

ON THE GOD DAMN MOTHER FUCKING STREET


AND YOUR CALLING ME AND IDIOT


HOLY SHIT

I REALLY THINK YOU NEED TO BE PUSHED BACK INTO YOUR MOTHER CAUSE I DONT THINK YOUR DONE COOKING YET


HEH...INITIAL D

WHAT AN ASSJACK

LOUD NOISES

[n2ocamry]

Originally posted by sidesidehappy
i practice at events u dumb mother fucker. go drive your camry around. fucking queer. need to be pushed back into my mother holy fuck thats the gayest line ive ever heard. you call you your corolla a hachi. what a fucking ricer. grow the fuck up and go to events. and if my 240 is beat to shit oh well. thats because i know how to drift it. and 3,200 is an amazing price. if u subtract all the parts from it u care getting a running car for about 800$.

shut up and die u fucking wet anus


wow if you practice at events then how the hell did you fuck up your rear quarter

uh im guessing on the street you bukkake buttlover

i never did like you but now i just want to bend you over and make you my bitch


calling my hachi roku a hachi makes me a ricer-lol
they usually call that a nickname you fag


and go to events what the hell for so i can spend $90 on 10 minutes of track time just so everybody else notices that i can drift

no thanks

hey when you go to japan guess what they'll be callin the 86 corolla over there

hachi roku you fuck

you should get used to it

enjoy being gay- you seem to be good at it

[n2ocamry]

Originally posted by Laurentz
LOUD NOISES


that movie is the shit- thanks for the laugh i needed it

[Funk]

they dont call it a fucking 8. they call it an 86.


and u want me to bend over.. and enjoy being gay... sounds like fun, lets make it a date.

and hey, you got me on the whole streets thing. but at least i dont go gloating around about it. i dont think the streets are the best place in the world. i wasnt drifting when i hit my car either.

[n2ocamry]

its called a fucking nickname

[only1.3]

people arnt going to go to every drift event every month. they will pick and choose which events they want to goto. they might feel like they wanted to go to lakeland one month and D Gtrials the next month. if DG trials cant take a little competition maybe they shouldnt be in this game in the firstplace.

if DGtrials wants to have alot of spectators like at Dday 1 they need to find an event thats close to an main road so alot of people will come. or maybe have a better spectating area at ocala. i got board after dday3 since you can only really watch for 1 angle.


im with teddy get the sand out your Vag and stop complaining so much.

[_Charles_]

Originally posted by only1.3
i got board after dday3 since you can only really watch for 1 angle.


im with teddy get the sand out your Vag and stop complaining so much.

I don't care about what spectators think, this is a 'drivers' sport....but thanks for playing ;).

[sidehappyside]

OHHHHHHHHHHH YEAH!WE ARE ALL INITIAL D HEEL TOE STYLE DRIFTER Racers TYPE S! HAHAH hahaha hAHAHA HAHAH

[zenki_s14]

damn you and jace are the biggest drama queens

[Jonas]

lol so anyway, n20drifter whatever... quit bitching...

[Matt Vassallo]

the technique is for the drivers

the sport is for the spectators. plain and simple.
cars that get more applause will get higher points from the judges. those that play the crowd get more scoring.

I've had enough of this. There's nothing wrong with using the track's insurance. In fact, I called K&K this morning, and as long as it is ON A TRACK inside compound where nobody else can get hurt except for the dumbasses, then there's nothing wrong with it.

IN ADDITION --->

USA Speedway has an EMT and ambulance on duty. So if something bad does happen, they will have you taken care of immediatly. They do this every weekend with the stock car / demolition derby / figure 8 / whatever they do.

Quit your crying, everybody.
IF you want to go to an event, then go! If you don't? Don't! You should be happy that there are event choices. This way people can't charge whatever they want for a drift event.


Keep this in mind you people -->
Guess what it costs to cone dodge out in California and Arizona?? 150 + PER PERSON PRE REGISTER ONLY .
Think about that before you start saying it's too expensive out here.

[paul kersey]

this thread sounds like 2 little kids trying to think of the most offensive "cut down" to thier friends.

[teddy]

Originally posted by RiceRocket
I don't care about what spectators think, this is a 'drivers' sport....but thanks for playing ;).

Wow. :roll:

[Matt Vassallo]

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