BMWCCA/PCA Auto-X Z-Hills 1/30

[99TL]

Just giving the heads up that the first bmwcca/pca auto-x is on the 30th. www.fscbmwcca.org will give you directions and whatnot.

[Loren]

Might try to make this one. FYI, couldn't find info on this date with the link you provided. It's on the PCA website, thoug:
http://www.pca.org/sfl/

[99TL]

they have been having trouble updating the driving events page but it is under upcoming events i believe... that was more for directions to the airport and whatnot. hopefully see you out there :)

[Muddy]

Nice. I will probably be there.

[hangten93]

novice, non porche drivers aloud??

[99TL]

yea... they do 3 seperate run groups: porsche, bmw, and other ... typically in that order. In regards to the course set-up... generally very fast and in the 50-60 second range.

[Loren]

Originally posted by hangten93
novice, non porche drivers aloud??

Yes, they're a pretty friendly bunch. They have instructors available for novices and encourage people to come out in any car. The PCA website prices aren't current, I think they're charging non-members $30 or $35 to enter. Their classing is Porsche-based with some BMW consideration... and everyone else is "other".

But, yeah, bring it on out. As long as it's a safe vehicle and you're a licensed driver with some cash in your pocket, they'll let you run.

[The Kyle]

I'd love to go...but the new brakes wont be on by then :( I might come to just hang out, it's been a while. I'm def in for 2/12 SR autox though ;)

[w0rd]

The website still says $20 to enter. Didn't they raise that a while ago?

[Loren]

Originally posted by w0rd
The website still says $20 to enter. Didn't they raise that a while ago?
Yes, see above.

Not sure, but I think it's $30 or $35 for non-members.

[mofugga]

last time i went they forgot to charge me :D

[Mars_302]

Seems kinda close, might give it a try. What exactly do you mean fast though? like high rpm 2nd gear?

[w0rd]

damn, $35 sucks if true.

I have probably hit 75 mph there, and I have about 140HP.

[Muddy]

I think I paid $20 at the last event. Anyway, I know for sure that it isn't $35. :lol:

[Loren]

Oops. Okay, looking back in time (http://www.tamparacing.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=193447&highlight=pca+fee), it appears that they did drop the rate back to $20 sometime last year. I know they experimented with higher rates for a while. Anyway, if it's $20... cool!

[Muddy]

Originally posted by Loren
Oops. Okay, looking back in time (http://www.tamparacing.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=193447&highlight=pca+fee), it appears that they did drop the rate back to $20 sometime last year. I know they experimented with higher rates for a while. Anyway, if it's $20... cool!
I have exposed your evil plan to scare people away from the PCA event, Loren! :lol:

[Loren]

Originally posted by Muddy
I have exposed your evil plan to scare people away from the PCA event, Loren! :lol:

You've just exposed my feeble memory... not that it was a very well hidden fact! :roll:

Hope I make it out to this event and see some of you there.

[Mars_302]

how many runs on avg anyway?

[99TL]

Originally posted by Mars_302
how many runs on avg anyway?

typically 3-4 ... sometimes some fun runs at the end.

as far as speed: as long as they keep this course design somewhat consistant with the other ones 70-75 should not be out of the picture.... really, really fun course designs.... decent speed switchbacks, trailbraking, etc...

[OversteerS2K]

They dropped it back to $20 for everyone for 2005. Last year they had non-members bumped to $30. Some asshole ( ;) ) made a stink about it. I think the "other" class shrunk down due to the 50% surcharge.

The courses are always fun (until the finish). Generally it's a Danny Sheilds design or he makes some tweaks to someone elses course. In any event I've never seen a bad course by Danny and w/o the SCCA rule book to worry about, speeds in my car are usually at a low to mid 70MPH peak on each side. I've probably hit 80 and imagine some of the larger displacement cars with race tires flirt with 90 briefly. Sometimes you can just stand on it for 3-5 seconds. Most of the time it's 4 runs but 3 when the number of entries is high. FTD for "others" usually gets a beer mug or T-shirt from a long gone Porsche event. But, like Sunriders, these events are just for fun - and they are. The only heavy competition is in a select few PCA & BMWCCA classes.

The surface is great practice for autocrossing in the rain. It's "unique".

One tip - see which way the wind is blowing and make sure you get a work station upwind. If you're on the wrong side you'll get caked with it and be picking your nose for days.

Lunch usually comes courtesy of the Sheilds' sponsor Suncoast Porsche (two or three Publix deli trays).

$20 is worth it. Go.

[99TL]

i can't wait... gonna put the car in the shop for a couple of days to make sure everything is kosher.

[Mars_302]

Im probably gonna pass acutally. Dont have a helmet yet, and there is a little movie showing going on in Gville that day

[99TL]

if you want to borrow my helmet it is no big deal...we will be in different run groups anyway.

[kickslop]

Anything to do ahead of time? Show up and pay?

[99TL]

show up and pay... that's it. if anyone has any doubts about how to find it i will be leaving from south tampa.

[Mars_302]

acutally I might make this. the IMV is the day before this. They do loaner helmets? Im pretty sure your head is much larger than mine Kris

[99TL]

Originally posted by Mars_302
acutally I might make this. the IMV is the day before this. They do loaner helmets? Im pretty sure your head is much larger than mine Kris

mine is a 7 3/8ths... i just talked to slow kyle and i think he is going to come crash at my house for the weekend... not sure what size his helmet is. also not sure about loaners but that can be figured out.

[The Kyle]

yeah im in on this. but my head is alarmingly huge.

[Mars_302]

im a medium

[The Kyle]

Originally posted by Mars_302
im a medium


we can stuff a buncha paper towels in my helmet? ;)

:lol:

[Mars_302]

who sells decently priced open faced helmets around here?

[The Kyle]

automotive engineering?

[chi town brat]

hoping to show...maybe i can actually autox this month

[99TL]

Originally posted by chi town brat
hoping to show...maybe i can actually autox this month
sounds good... the more the merrier... and i got my helmet at AE... i think it was $90 or so.

chi town: do you live on davis island? i posted this in another thread but i thought i saw you going into tates last week.

[PseudoRealityX]

Originally posted by Mars_302
acutally I might make this. the IMV is the day before this. They do loaner helmets? Im pretty sure your head is much larger than mine Kris

you know the IMV guys? oh no... :P

[Mars_302]

Not really. They are showing one of their movies of drifting/racing/streetracing at a big theatre in Gville and a buncha ppl I know are going

[Leonard]

Originally posted by PseudoRealityX
you know the IMV guys? oh no... :P

:lol:

[MaxType 240]

What's the official word on loaner helmets? I'll be leaving S. Tampa too. What route are you planning to go up there? I ask b/c I'm wondering if I can drop the car prior to arriving on scene. This will be my 1st event w/ the stupid body kit...

Jesse

[_Charles_]

I'm gonna try and show up...

[w0rd]

Originally posted by MaxType 240
What's the official word on loaner helmets?
Two years ago they did not provide loaner helmets.
If you want the official w0rd, they have a contact on this page... http://www.pca.org/sfl/calendar%20of%20events.htm

[99TL]

i don't think they have loaner helmets... i will be taking i-4 to 301... leaving from south tampa too so if you want to meet up before and ride over with kyle and myself that's not a problem

[Mars_302]

Whats the approval rating again I need for a helmet? I will try and pick one up tomorrow

[w0rd]

I think m2000 is the lowest rating for auto-x purposes.

[_Charles_]

Originally posted by w0rd
I think m2000 is the lowest rating for auto-x purposes.

ummmm snell95?

[MaxType 240]

Originally posted by Mars_302
Whats the approval rating again I need for a helmet? I will try and pick one up tomorrow

SCCA approves SNELL 95, 90, 85

[w0rd]

Originally posted by MaxType 240
SCCA approves SNELL 95, 90, 85
No they don't.

[w0rd]

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4.3.1 Helmets
Helmets meeting the following standards must be worn while on course: All helmets meeting the current or two immediately preceding Snell Foundation standards (SA, K, or M), or SFI standards 31.1A, 31.2A, 41.1A, or 41.2A are acceptable. FIA approved helmets which are acceptable for use in Rally events are acceptable for Solo II events.

For maximum protection, helmets must fit securely and should
provide adequate peripheral vision. The chin strap must be securely fastened. Loaner helmets should be available to vehicle occupants not having their own
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So Snell 2005 (not out yet????), 2000, and 95 are legal.

[Mars_302]

You are such a wealth of info Jeremy thanks

[_Charles_]

MARS.....I have 2 helmets.....feel free to borrow if you like. I think one is small (wife's) and 1 is large (mine)....

[Muddy]

I'll sell my old snell 95 for $10 if anyone is interested. I will bring it with me.

[mofugga]

i think i'm gonna go, i'm also pretty sure i'll be too lazy to put on the azenis so i'll be abusing the rockhard fulda extremo's & getting all kinds of sideways on the slick zephyrhills runway :bang:


for the right price i can sell you my brother's snell m2000 helmet, he's in boston & left it here :lol:

[MaxType 240]

Muddy, Mofugga, bring the helmets, I may buy if I like but I at least need to borrow... I'm a size 7.

Jesse

PS - 99TL, where/when do you want to meet up? I might need a ride back too if my current slipping clutch decides to go...

[99TL]

Originally posted by MaxType 240
Muddy, Mofugga, bring the helmets, I may buy if I like but I at least need to borrow... I'm a size 7.

Jesse

PS - 99TL, where/when do you want to meet up? I might need a ride back too if my current slipping clutch decides to go...

how about either the gas station at the NEQ of kennedy/howard or the Burger King off the 22nd street exit of I-4? 7:30ish? And if the clutch goes a ride home won't be a problem.

[krekavhts]

Hey asshat, no selling my helmet. Don't think just cause I am up north I don't read this stuff.

BTW Snow Sucks when there is 40 inches on the ground in front of your house.

[mofugga]

Originally posted by krekavhts
Hey asshat, no selling my helmet. Don't think just cause I am up north I don't read this stuff.

BTW Snow Sucks when there is 40 inches on the ground in front of your house.

:lol: don't worry man i wasn't gonna sell it :evil2:

[Mars_302]

You could always rent it out :lol: I picked up one today, sure hope it meets approval.

[Muddy]

Originally posted by MaxType 240
Muddy, Mofugga, bring the helmets, I may buy if I like but I at least need to borrow... I'm a size 7.

Jesse

PS - 99TL, where/when do you want to meet up? I might need a ride back too if my current slipping clutch decides to go...
Sure thing. I will be there in my new toy.




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[MaxType 240]

I ended up getting a helmet, thanks for looking out All American...

Jesse

[kickslop]

This will be fun. I am going to be so slow :)

[Loren]

Just split this thread to separate the post-event stuff, here's the new thread:
http://www.tamparacing.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=209434