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3tc power
01-11-2005, 05:50 PM
marksaccord95
your car sounded pretty strong when your at the burn out box,
but you were running high 14's. then i said to myself that can't be, so i sat at the top of the bleachers and studied every run you made. i knowtice on a few of your passes it would take you 1 or 1.5 seconds to put it in gear like you were fighting to pu it in gear. so i said to myself his tranny is going to take a shit real soon. then later on that night i saw you run a 13.8 or something like that. i think the car sounds and run real good. the car seems like it has some potential. keep up the good work.
toyz 4 life.....
+1 for the ghetto sleeper :thumbup:
Slash
01-11-2005, 05:55 PM
He's making a lot more power than what should be running 13's, I'm sure he had some sort of big handicap or problem with the car to be running those sort of times with the power that thing has.
n2ocamry
01-11-2005, 06:58 PM
that is correct the handicap was that it wasnt tuned
then he went and put 100 octane in it (still not tuned) and expected it to perform better
rookie mistake-but we've all done it before
(im not saying your a rookie mark- im just stating that weve all done it at one time or another)
either way he was running way to rich and boggin down the powerplant, and if i remember correctly he drenched his plugs every race
the car is a low 11 high 10 car
on slicks low 10's
The car has too thick of a HG on it at the time ... So the car falls on its face after every shift ..
With a 1.6mm HG and soem tunning the car will run high 11's low 12's on streets I think
hachibill
01-11-2005, 10:39 PM
no its not the head gasket, its the tuning and the turbo's too big, it had that problem when taka first bougth the car, the way to get around that was to use the nitrus.
marksaccord95
01-12-2005, 12:31 AM
rookie mistake?? hahahhahahahahaahha
the headgasket did change the peformance of the car bc it went from a 8:1 to a 7:1
bottom line, i shouldnt have put race gas in it, it made it run too rich and the car was bucking down the track in every gear. left the track, went and got some 93 and ran like a champ on the interstate, in which i beat both a modded cobra and modded C5 vette.
the cars trap EGTs were around 1100 degrees which is WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY too cool.
the car has to be shifted slow bc u cant speed shift it, something is wrong with the clutch/tranny which doesnt allow u to shift the car hard.
what would help the car out a lot would be an electric cut out on the downpipe. the car has a cat and TWO mufflers on it which i know creates a shit load of back pressure which is slowing down the turbo between shifts more then it should.
but frankly, im just getting tired of the car, i might put it on ebay so i can make my SR corolla 400WHP+
Slash
01-12-2005, 03:15 AM
Why dont you actually finish one thing at atime? then you could e-bay it with a 10 second timeslip........ It'd be worth alot more
hachibill
01-12-2005, 10:27 AM
well the thing is it needs a new tranny, but the guys who built it welded a 4ag bellhousing to a celica w58 tranny. so there's no way to change the tranny. and i still think there is something wrong with the clutch install. the car needs to be gone threw and have all its little problems fixed. and i don't think a head gasket can drop the compression a full point. i have the same HKS 2mm HG for the built high compression blue hat i have and we figured it would drop the comp from 12.1 to like 11.75 or soo. maybe half a point at max.
3tc power
01-12-2005, 10:51 AM
you can get an adapter to use the 4a bellhousing on the w58 tranny from Rhet aka TOYCOOLROLLA on club 4ag. as far as the tranny goes, you can get one of those from cophers for $30.
82-85 efi celica or efi pickup truck.
toyz 4 life.........
marksaccord95
01-13-2005, 12:22 AM
for every 1mm thicker u go on a headgasket, u roughly loose 1 compression point.
The car will never run 10s, it would have to make 450-500WHP and have amazing traction.
the car is just a pain in the ass and id rather sell it then dump a bunch of money and time fixing the tranny/clutch, doing a valve job, retuning it, blah blah, when i can build my SR Corolla for less and be as fast and more reliable.
3tc power
01-13-2005, 08:51 AM
marksaccord95
how much would you want for the car how it is right now.
marksaccord95
01-13-2005, 11:36 PM
6500
Scott
01-14-2005, 01:02 AM
Originally posted by Slash
Why dont you actually finish one thing at atime? then you could e-bay it with a 10 second timeslip........ It'd be worth alot more
:werd:
:lol:
No way it is going to run 10's no matter what power you throw at it since it will never be able to get enough traction.
taka86fc
01-14-2005, 03:48 AM
marksaccord knows what the car needs to be done. He just doesn't have time. I heard the original owner run 11sec w/slics
Mark: did you read my reply top your post on club4ag. I might get a part you want. but i need to talk to you before i get it.
StreetRacingOnline
01-14-2005, 11:03 AM
Originally posted by marksaccord95
for every 1mm thicker u go on a headgasket, u roughly loose 1 compression point.
Dear Grasshoppa, that is simply untrue. :) you cannot gauge the thickness of a head gasket in relation to your compression. You must actually test it. Do you know if the block has ever been milled? Do you know if the head has ever been milled. if any is yes that that will dramatically change the compression. What is thw comp height of the pistons? Have the combustion chambers been worked? If so again the comp will change from the stock form. We can find out though by getting a comp tester and testing each cyl. :) and then we use math to find out the true compression :) isn't stock comp on a 4age around 9.5:1-10:1? here is a comp calculator for you guys that can help as well
http://www.smokemup.com/auto_math/compression_ratio.php
hachibill
01-14-2005, 11:12 AM
stock compression for a 4ag is 9.4to1, but that motor is built with all forged internals. the only way to tell would be to check with a compression tester.
StreetRacingOnline
01-14-2005, 12:32 PM
thats what i figured. lets the pistons are a 8.0:1 comp height which the maybe. and that the head and block are stock and the stock gasket is .5mm. you would have to put a 3mm headgasket atleast on that puppy to bring it down to 7.0:1. which is ridiculous... It would get out of its own way at that comp.
marksaccord95
01-15-2005, 01:53 AM
holy shit its AL!!
it was 8:1 with a 1MM headgasket, it then went to 2MM, if u read on the HKS site, the 2MM 4ag headgasket drops the compression down 1 point from the 1MM, hence the motor is 7:1 compression.
i cant remember the compression numbers off my head, but they were around 120 per cylinder i think
StreetRacingOnline
01-15-2005, 03:56 AM
yes sir in teh internet flesh... :)
2301-RT010
TOYOTA Corolla GTS 1985-1991 ;
Engine Code: 4AGE Bead 82bore "8.7"comp 2 thickness
http://www.hksusa.com/products/?id=732
but i still could be wrong. Either way it has some serious potential, don't sell it have fun with it first. :)
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