View Full Version : Open Invitiation: 280ZX
Cronic
12-02-2004, 12:36 PM
We're having a get together tonight. Myself and a couple other cars. Well Im off work tomorrow. So I figured why not get more people involved in this.
There will be at least 3 cars here tonight. Multiple runs. I have invited a few others with no responce. So here is an open invite. PM me if you want to come out and about.
This could be your chance to shut my cocky mouth up. Beat me, and go home with a happy war story.
I will be going from a dig, and a roll with anyone who wants a race. There will be a 40mph roll. The race will be no more then 100mph, or whoever can hold the lead for 5 seconds. This is a no money event. I do not run for cash. I never will.
Just send me a PM for my number and I will call with a location. This event will be held later in the evening, where limited traffic is around. Probably 10p-12a.
myltwon
12-02-2004, 12:42 PM
sounds like fun I'd be no competion but I'd like to see the killing/killeds first hand
Tripp
12-02-2004, 12:42 PM
I would come out and race you but it would not be worth my time to watch you lose to my all powerful Stock 04 Nissan Frontier
launch
12-02-2004, 12:59 PM
Jeff I think most people are going to quaker steak tonight to show some support for Charles Register who is in the hospital.
Cronic
12-02-2004, 01:03 PM
I forgot about that.
I don't know how late QS is open, but this event will be happening after 10pm. Maybe as late as midnight, depending on people showing up.
jsimon9631
12-02-2004, 01:15 PM
I am in shoot me a phone call with the details
Sneakin Deacon
12-02-2004, 01:56 PM
i usually get out of QS around 10:30ish...weather looks iffy tonight, they said like 20% chance of rain today, and its done nothing but piss on my house the last hour or so. if i make it out ill run ya, wont be 100%, but ill run ya.
Cronic
12-02-2004, 02:00 PM
Hasn't been a drop here. Hopefully it stays that way. 10% chance tonight.
Half Fast
12-02-2004, 02:50 PM
Originally posted by Cronic
This is a no money event. I do not run for cash. I never will.
Not worth my time to confirm something I already know.
Cronic
12-02-2004, 03:08 PM
Then don't post in the thread. :roll:
InsaneCivicCoupe
12-02-2004, 03:18 PM
racing only to 100???? What about cars that trap above that???
Cronic
12-02-2004, 03:31 PM
110mph? That make you happy, Mr. 108 trap speed?
You commin? Cause I'd like a rematch with my new turbo.
InsaneCivicCoupe
12-02-2004, 04:28 PM
Actually, Its more like 115 now buddy ;)
launch
12-02-2004, 04:30 PM
tit for tat
InsaneCivicCoupe
12-02-2004, 04:30 PM
oh, and I might come after QS&L.......
jsimon9631
12-02-2004, 04:34 PM
Originally posted by InsaneCivicSedan
Actually, Its more like 115 now buddy ;)
no it fucking aint I call BS on that :bsflag: :bsflag:
come out tonight and race and dont talk about "i have not tires" boost is falling" or whatever other shit you normally say :lol: :lol: :lol:
JFWY but not really
Cronic
12-02-2004, 04:47 PM
Time slip for this 115mph? Prove it or I call :bsflag: It would take you an extra 80whp to gain 7mph in the 1/4. Since when are you a 380whp Civic?
cubanprince1
12-02-2004, 05:35 PM
hey ill go.....with jsimon of course lol......lol.....
DaTruth
12-02-2004, 06:15 PM
This should be good. I guess no sense in anyone that traps over 130mph coming out. ;)
jsimon9631
12-02-2004, 06:34 PM
Originally posted by DaTruth
This should be good. I guess no sense in anyone that traps over 130mph coming out. ;)
:lol: correctomundo
DaTruth
12-02-2004, 06:37 PM
Originally posted by jsimon9633
:lol: correctomundo
:(
onesweetZ06
12-02-2004, 06:41 PM
Originally posted by DaTruth
This should be good. I guess no sense in anyone that traps over 130mph coming out. ;) And who would that be?:lol:
TheShow50h
12-02-2004, 06:57 PM
Originally posted by DaTruth
:(
Well, you could get some radials on. I'll bring some slicks, and we can race to 60. :lol:
DaTruth
12-02-2004, 06:58 PM
Originally posted by TheShow50h
Well, you could get some radials on. I'll bring some slicks, and we can race to 60. :lol:
I dont think I could beat you to 60 even on my drag radials. Must be nice to 60 ft like hell.. :)
James I was going to borrow your car and run a 200 shot to get over 130mph traps. ;)
TheShow50h
12-02-2004, 07:01 PM
Originally posted by DaTruth
I dont think I could beat you to 60 even on my drag radials. Must be nice to 60 ft like hell.. :)
Haha, yea right. I'd get my ass handed to me from start to finish with or without slicks.
Cronic
12-02-2004, 07:13 PM
If your car traps over 114, there's no sense in showing up.
However anyone with a camera is more then welcome to come along. Unless you want to come out just to beat on the little guys.
Vince if your free, come on out. It'll be good to see you again.
DaTruth
12-02-2004, 07:21 PM
Cronic is calling you Vince. ;)
I wish I could get a 1.80 60 foot. Life would be good:)
BucsFanatic59
12-02-2004, 08:59 PM
Wheres this gonna be at Jeff, no cell but hit me on aim bucsfanatic59...
TheShow50h
12-02-2004, 11:19 PM
Originally posted by DaTruth
I wish I could get a 1.80 60 foot. Life would be good:)
Hahaha, I did that with 186rwhp. :p
Originally posted by DaTruth
Cronic is calling you Vince. ;)
Nope, no one wants to see me. Your the "cool" Vince.
I just changed my name to ride on your coat tails. :lol:
Jordan Y.
12-03-2004, 04:04 AM
Originally posted by Cronic
Time slip for this 115mph? Prove it or I call :bsflag: It would take you an extra 80whp to gain 7mph in the 1/4. Since when are you a 380whp Civic?
Guess he finally swapped for a GSR head.
Cronic
12-03-2004, 04:12 AM
Excellent night everyone. I wont a couple, lost once again to alberto, worse then before as he promised. I had some oil issues again, and timing issues. All in all though, an awesome turn out, and no cops until we were already leaving. :)
Thanks everyone who showed up. it's nice to have no rice, drama free environment to race in.
InsaneCivicCoupe
12-03-2004, 04:13 AM
Alot of changes have been made... Mainly tuning-wise... But I promise, VTEC is not one of them... And its not on the to-do list anytime soon either :)
psifactor
12-03-2004, 08:06 AM
Yeah, I had fun watching. I honstly thought you would have killed my car.
btw, jeff when break boosing likes to slowly jump up 1/2 a car on whomever he is racing by the 3rd honk :lol: must get too excited and not be able to keep it at 40mph?
ShelpDogg
12-03-2004, 10:07 AM
Hey Jeff......
I went out there about 20 past 10 (after I got off the phone with you) and waited until a little after 11.....I didn't see you guys, so I went home. 14 hour work/school days are killin me.
Sorry I missed the fun.
My buddy was out there with me and raced a firebird/trans am (?) that was lurking around. I think my boy smoked him pretty bad.
We will hook up soon and run em.
shelpdogg
Cronic
12-03-2004, 10:42 AM
You had to have just missed us. We got there at like 1120 at the most. I tried calling you but no answer.
Cronic
12-03-2004, 10:44 AM
Originally posted by psifactor
Yeah, I had fun watching. I honstly thought you would have killed my car.
btw, jeff when break boosing likes to slowly jump up 1/2 a car on whomever he is racing by the 3rd honk :lol: must get too excited and not be able to keep it at 40mph?
My car wasn't at peak tonight. We'll run again tonight if you want. :)
As far as the 40 thing. When I get to 35 I brake boost it. I let it creep to 40, and do the honks.
psifactor
12-03-2004, 11:11 AM
ohh, I just noticed you had close to 1/2 car before start on your few runs.
No more running for awhile. dyno time tomorrow and getting the cams in there.
btw, remember I'm 99.9% stock with 3800lbs :D I'll be back for you and hopefully ready to run with the big boys soon enough
Either way it was fun.
Cronic
12-03-2004, 11:20 AM
Im certainly not one of the big boys, but when you get your setup done, let me know Im always down for another run.
launch
12-03-2004, 11:22 AM
Originally posted by psifactor
ohh, I just noticed you had close to 1/2 car before start on your few runs.
No more running for awhile. dyno time tomorrow and getting the cams in there.
btw, remember I'm 99.9% stock with 3800lbs :D I'll be back for you and hopefully ready to run with the big boys soon enough
Either way it was fun.
Did the two of you race?
Cronic
12-03-2004, 11:26 AM
Her bf drove, we raced from a few 40mph rolls. He kept missing shifts so there wasn't a great run.
Sneakin Deacon
12-03-2004, 11:31 AM
where the hell was everyone when i was there damnit!...oh well, wouldnt have mattered much, i did some pulls with a vette and the car fell on its face in 4th..this new toy is funky...one gear its great, next gear its better, then its like "whoa...where am i?" i was rich enough to make my datalog show 999mV for the o2's :lol:
psifactor
12-03-2004, 11:36 AM
Yeah, if you want another run maybe I'll take a stab at it....haven't missed a gear yet in that car ;)
oh, edit. so even missing shifts he was that close?
sinisterdan93
12-03-2004, 11:42 AM
insanecivicsedan(chris) are you gonna take him out? seems to be very confident. let me know if you guuys go and i'll try to make it out.
psifactor
12-03-2004, 11:44 AM
Chris was out there last night and ran the rsx (very nice car btw) but I don't think he ran Jeff.
launch
12-03-2004, 12:40 PM
Originally posted by psifactor
Chris was out there last night and ran the rsx (very nice car btw) but I don't think he ran Jeff.
Who won this duel of the hondas?
jsimon9631
12-03-2004, 12:49 PM
Originally posted by launch
Who won this duel of the hondas?
went from 40-110, he beat me by about 1-1.5cars. He was pulling up top I would say that to 120 It would of been about 2 cars. Which makes sense considering he traps prob 110 and I trapped 108 the only time Ive gone to the track.
HotImportNightHonda
12-03-2004, 12:52 PM
Originally posted by jsimon9633
went from 40-110, he beat me by about 1-1.5cars. He was pulling up top I would say that to 120 It would of been about 2 cars. Which makes sense considering he traps prob 110 and I trapped 108 the only time Ive gone to the track.
Good runs man. Wish I coulda made it, me and Mike were indisposed. Deffinately be out tomorrow. Peace fellas.
Chris LS
12-03-2004, 01:20 PM
Sorry I didn't call Cronic, I forgot all about it after work. If anything is happening tonight, I might be out.
Chris
psifactor
12-03-2004, 02:48 PM
Originally posted by HotImportNightHonda
Good runs man. Wish I coulda made it, me and Mike were indisposed. Deffinately be out tomorrow. Peace fellas.
Thats my old car!!!!!!
Launch where were you?
launch
12-03-2004, 03:37 PM
Originally posted by psifactor
Thats my old car!!!!!!
Launch where were you?
Launch was at Quaker Steak. Also Brett cannot race when my daughter is with me. Come see me Sunday at Buddy's.
Brett
InsaneCivicCoupe
12-03-2004, 03:47 PM
Originally posted by sinisterdan93
insanecivicsedan(chris) are you gonna take him out? seems to be very confident. let me know if you guuys go and i'll try to make it out.
I was kinda iffy about running last night because my car was getting a little hard to control on the street tires... But after all was said and done, it was a fun night... I tried to get at Jeff when we got on the interstate... But he decided to do like 100 all the way accross the HF.... :lol:
launch
12-03-2004, 04:19 PM
Originally posted by InsaneCivicSedan
[ I tried to get at Jeff ight.when we got on the interstate... But he decided to do like 100 all the way accross the HF.... :lol: [/B]
Sounds like somebody got scared
Sneakin Deacon
12-03-2004, 04:48 PM
...shit, he just wanted a 100 roll...thats like top of 3rd..i shoulda stayed
HotImportNightHonda
12-03-2004, 06:26 PM
Originally posted by psifactor
Thats my old car!!!!!!
Yeah it made it's way back to the crew. I'm Adrian with the black explorer Went with Sean and Mike to get that Block. PM me sometime. I wanted to ask you a couple of ??s.
I'm still pissed I missed this. Did you get your car straight Jeff?
flubyux2
12-03-2004, 07:42 PM
it was a lot of fun. im glad the 1J didnt get smoked... however, the 280z has a tendency to roll past 40mph while brake boosting... because i sped up to 40 and held it there and i could hear jeff's turbo spooling and he was creeping ahead and was at full boost and 1/2 car ahead at the 3rd honk... i was coasting at 40mph then and launched the car in 2nd gear and it just spun the tires and even got a little squirlley. i think the pavement out there is pretty smooth and slick... i tried the same technique on US19 on the new pavment and it didnt get anywhere near as squirrley.
and i wasnt missing gears. i only missed a shift once. on the very first run, i couldnt get it into 3rd while powershifting. after i was in 3rd gear, it rode out to ~118mph and this JDM ECU in the 1JZ has a speed cut on it... just like Fuel cut. i was on Jeff's rear quarter and pulling up untill 118mph and the ECU shut off the fuel... so it sounded like i dont know how to shift and i was hitting the rev limiter.
I installed the Speed limiter defender so now it goes past 118mph no problem... as verified by the Dyno at Race Related. so, without the speed cut goin on and jeff STAYING at 40mph UNTILL the 3rd honk, itll be a very very close and exciting race. ;)
Sneakin Deacon
12-03-2004, 09:36 PM
so does it really cut off the fuel...all i see is problems with that...6000rpm, full boost, no fuel.
InsaneCivicCoupe
12-03-2004, 09:49 PM
Im not a big fan of the road there either.... That first run of mine was VERY scary for me, and Alberto too I believe.. I definitely wasnt expecting that to happen, and had no choice but to shut down and get on the brakes... I swear my heart mustve stopped for a second.... Very scary stuff... I dont think I will be running at that spot anymore... At least not without proper tires....
psifactor
12-03-2004, 10:29 PM
Originally posted by Sneakin Deacon
so does it really cut off the fuel...all i see is problems with that...6000rpm, full boost, no fuel.
Its just like a fuel cut. The engine shuts off completely:( But thats gone now so i'm good for probably close to 190-200mph if I have the power to get there.
Sneakin Deacon
12-03-2004, 10:49 PM
sure its not the spark that it is cutting though?
i know the dsm guys call it fuel cut, and describe it as a big cloud of black smoke pouring out the arse, but that sounds like timing being cut too, if there was no fuel, there would be no puff of black smoke and raw fuel. just terms i hear now and again, that kinda make me question who first coined them.
Jordan Y.
12-04-2004, 01:36 AM
Originally posted by psifactor
Its just like a fuel cut. The engine shuts off completely:( But thats gone now so i'm good for probably close to 190-200mph if I have the power to get there.
Huh, that's a weird way to limit speed. My Accord's limiter would let you accelerate past the 115 limit, but when you hit 118 it would bounce you back down to 113 as the engine just shut off and coasted down a bit, and then you could accelerate back up. Is it something like that? The coolest fuel cut I've experienced was in an sr20 s13, when it it 112 or whatever it was it just stopped there, smooth as can be, but it had to have been cutting spark because when on the limiter a two foot flame blew out of the tailpipe and stayed lit until you backed off the limiter. It's the same at 108 in my mom's pathfinder, minus the cool flame.
psifactor
12-04-2004, 09:16 AM
Originally posted by Jordan Y.
Is it something like that? The coolest fuel cut I've experienced was in an sr20 s13, when it it 112 or whatever it was it just stopped there, smooth as can be, but it had to have been cutting spark because when on the limiter a two foot flame blew out of the tailpipe and stayed lit until you backed off the limiter.
My ecu will not let you accelerate anymore once speed cut has been reached. Chris tried this the other night and and he then experienced substained fuel cut. I guess the ecu was pissed he didn't listen the 1st time.
I didn't think it was shutting off the spark, but maybe. Mine is just like the 240 you were talking about and I would also shoot huge flames. It just shuts the fuel off 100%. I'll go read up on it and see if I can find any other information.
accord95
12-04-2004, 09:56 AM
yeah, i have the stupid fuel cut or whatever it is on my JDM engine as well. what exactly did you use to get rid of it, will it work on hondas?
Sneakin Deacon
12-04-2004, 10:08 AM
i could be totally wrong on it, but i mean its just like having a carbed car backfire..if you were to be driving, then turn the key off (no spark) and keep rolling, then turn the car back on, you would get a huge backfire from all the unignited fuel that went in/out of the cylinder and is exploding in the exhaust piping. and at 110mph, your using a substantial amount of power to push you, you'd be quite suprised what losing ~10 degrees of timing would do.
Cronic
12-04-2004, 11:07 AM
Originally posted by launch
Sounds like somebody got scared
Actually, I raced a 2g eclipse, and some weird body lexus, just fucking around.
Chris, your car is faster then mine, why didnt you step up to the plate and honk at me? I would've slowed down.
psifactor
12-04-2004, 11:44 AM
Originally posted by accord95
yeah, i have the stupid fuel cut or whatever it is on my JDM engine as well. what exactly did you use to get rid of it, will it work on hondas?
I have an HKS Speed Limit Defender, it was found on ebay for $40 shipped. Greddy also makes them and yes you should be able to use it on just about any car. You'll just need to get ahold of the instructions hopefully in English.
flubyux2
12-04-2004, 01:36 PM
Originally posted by Cronic
Actually, I raced a 2g eclipse, and some weird body lexus, just fucking around.
Chris, your car is faster then mine, why didnt you step up to the plate and honk at me? I would've slowed down.
which chris are you talkin to?
that HKS SLD is available for just about any car out there. the set of instructions that came with this one are old, like Pre-1990. the JZA70 pinout isnt on here. but it does include many other cars, nissans and mitsus and such. on the same page is the pinouts for installing the FCD too. only problem is its all in japanese... i had to look up the Japanese characters for the wire colors. i was able to translate what color was supposed to go to which ECU pin. so it was ok after that.
Last night, the car hit 140+ on the dyno, so it apparantly is working quite well. im going to try to install the SAFC today... and the 2JZ cams if we can get ahold of Leko. i really need to do something about that stock DP too... Jeff, when are we going to put a turbo-back DP/exhaust on the Z?
btw, your welcome for the garden hose and box knife that you didnt need... i wish i woulda seen that heater hose on your car BEFORE i left for Wal-Mart :bbb:
EDIT: Kenny, im not sure if its fuel cut or spark cut... maybe its spark cut, like the Rev limiter... but instead of dropping a cylinder every other rotation... it might drop ALL cylinders at the same time for however many revolutions. it feels exactly like "Fuel Cut" or Boost cut on a DSM: a brick wall. as opposed to loss of power such as shutting the ignition offf and coasting. one of the runs, it would cut out violently untill i back off the throttle... but instead of backing off, i just upshifted into 4th and it went about another 10mph before it went into a complete loss of power and began coasting... like the Speed cut on GM trucks ~98mph... or probably like Jordan's Mom's pathfinder.
psifactor
12-04-2004, 03:05 PM
he's talking to insanecivic. duh
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