Kyle's DDAY3 WrapUp / Thank You's Thread

[The Kyle]

wow!

Yesterday was spectacular. It was a record breaking event for us in Florida. we had 49 Cars and 51 Drivers yesterday. Making it the biggest event in Florida yet!

Due to the Hurricane I wasnt expecting many people to show up but damn I was way off. We also managed to pull over 150 spectators as well, which is quite impressive again because of the storm barrelling down on us.

After everyone left I chatted a bit with Jeff and George and they were stoked about how it went and the way everyone behaved themselves. They were impressed by the high level of maturity and consideration by all of its attendees (minus a couple idiots who were forced to leave the property early in the day). Everyone was nice and curtious to everyone.

Dispite a few minor hicups(most of which happened behind the scenes, that you guys didnt get to see thank god) it was a pretty successfull event. OGP Staff did an amazing job, all of our DG Crew rocked the party.

The 5 up 5 down format worked out really well I believe. It was mentioned that we started a bit late. Yes we did kick things off probly 45 minutes to an hour later than expected due to tech taking a bit longer than it should have. This is something that will not happen next time.

As most of you know, this was the first time I had run an event with full control without Erik present. I was terrified and nervous for 90% of the day, if it hadnt been for all my staff and especially all you guys being so f'ing awesome I think I would have flipped out haha. Thanks!

Finally I'll just go through my usual thank yous.....Jeff and George and their staff, the DG Crew, Red Bull (big time!), ACT, Yokohama, Daiyama, Silkroad, Megan Racing, Autopower, ATS, BimmerWorld, and many many others that help make it possible.

Last but not least thanks to everyone that showed up, all the drivers, and the awesome spectators that were screaming at the top of their lungs and claping.

If anyone has any complaints, suggestions, hate mail or naked pictures of their hot cousins/sisters/girlfriends....please email me at kyle@dgtrials.com !

See you next time!

-Kyle

[Clifford]

So uhhh whens the next one:D :lol:

[mranlet]

What happened, did I miss it?

[The Kyle]

you know what happened. lol. think of what was the big dilema yesterday.

[driftchik]

wheels falling off?

lol

[steve]

good time's thanks kyle

[mranlet]

Originally posted by Slow Kyle
you know what happened. lol. think of what was the big dilema yesterday.

Its always "boxers of berifs" for me...

The radio talk was getting kinda dirty, I kinda liked it ;-) ....

We better do this again.

[steve]

oh and to all the people that work at the event

[teddy]

Originally posted by Slow Kyle
wow!

Yesterday was spectacular. It was a record breaking event for us in Florida. we had [b]49 Cars and 51 Drivers yesterday. Making it the biggest event in Florida yet!

But this also meant it gave the LEAST amount of seat time out of all the events. :(

I must say that out of the 3 DD's this one was definately the NICEST track and was ran and organized the BEST out of the 3.

However, no matter how flawlessly you run an event, there is no way in hell drivers will get the amount of seat time they paid for when there are 50 other drivers waiting in line to do the same.

I left the event happy, albiet a little aggravated because of the hurricane we all got to go home to, but I will never pay 75-100$ again for 10 laps at a drift event...and from the numerous other people I talked to, they won't either.

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE either a) lower cost, or b) lower amount of drivers allowed to register

Having 75 drivers at one event would not be cooler even though it would make the event probably the biggest in the country!

I spoke w/ one of the owners (guy in red shirt) and he asked me how the event was going. The ONLY thing I was dissastisfied w/ was the amount of seat time, and he seemed to agree. He said that they didn't 'know' this many drivers were coming and that caused problems...but then again, on the pre-reg list, there were 50 open spots, so :?

Even though one could argue that they didn't know that all the spot would be filled, w/ one real practice drift event happening in Central Florida once every 4 or 5 months, you have to EXPECT every allowable spot to be filled.

I understand that you guys have to break even on the cost of the events, etc, but the price per lap was in the 10$ range and that was rediculous. Key here is frequency of events, which I'm sure you know. Have them more oftem and things will get better because 1) not everyone can AFFORD to pay 50-100 entrance fee 2) conflicting schedules 3) car not ready 4) just plain dont want to go every month

The co-owner I also talked w/ mentioned something about Monday night 'track nights' were you pay something like $35 and run all night. Not sure how involved they are w/ you about this, but possibly a Fri night or Sat night would work out MUCH better because of schedule problems...either way, even if they don't change the day, if this works out it would be a blessing for the drift community. 4 or 5 hrs of drifting at a track for a cheap price, and getting more track time than all the DD's combined! I couldn't see more than 8 or 9 people coming to one of these, probably less.

Anyway, not trying to gripe Kyle, just giving my .02cents and some constructive criticism. :)

I left the event happy, so hah!

EDIT: And a BIG THANK YOU to you and to EVERYONE who helped put the event on. I'm sure its not easy. Thanks!@

[adrock]

I was talking to danny, I think, and he had a good suggestion, although it would probably be pretty difficult and maybe impossible? but he brought up an idea of streatching it out for saturday and sunday, maybe limit to 30 ish drivers per day. more seat time, and then it perhaps pick a close spot if not the track (hey, maybe parking lot?) to camp, have fun inbetween days etc. but again, maybe inpossible but hell, coolest if done.

but hey, i'd still come if it just as crowded, but with no hurricane and less money. you guys did awesome and I can't say enough of how much fun it was!

[box240mod]

well ya this event was $7.50 a lap if u got all 10 of yours in.... and personally, ill pay that because it will never compare to the 250$ single turn slide i pulled at the races a few years back..... no cops, ambulance, and a real track = worth it, but limiting registration to less people might be a plan....

[satanshatch]

Thank you Kyle. Appreciate it.... You did fine. I actually enjoyed it MORE w/ out Eric crying about dirt and off course blah blah...

I have a SHIT load of pics Ill post later on..

[teddy]

Originally posted by box240mod
well ya this event was $7.50 a lap if u got all 10 of yours in.... and personally, ill pay that because it will never compare to the 250$ single turn slide i pulled at the races a few years back..... no cops, ambulance, and a real track = worth it, but limiting registration to less people might be a plan....

Agreed. Even though I said I'll never pay it again, I'm sure I will if the opportunity comes up, because drifting is like CRACK :lol:

I just want less drivers damnit! :D

[buck19]

if you cant afford $100 to go to an event then you probably shouldnt be going to any drift events cause i know several people that spent more than 5 times that just on tires. I did some calculations on the ride home and the 15 laps that bryce got (the one that lost the wheel and still didnt miss a session) only used up a 1/4 tank of gas. thats about 7 miles a gallon. thats almost $7 in gas. but only took a 1/4 tank to get to the track and less than a 1/4 tank to get back home.

so 1 day and only used 3/4 of a tank of gas, 4 stripped and missing lug nuts, a bent muffler, cracked wheel well, bent lower control arm, ruined wheel, and two extremely happy, sun burnt, exhausted, and dehydrated customers.

so dont complain about the seat time. there would have been more if it werent for the hurricane. we would have prob gone all night. also dont complain about the price or number of drivers. the number of drivers is what keeps the cost down at $75-$100. if there were to be a 2 day event like homestead then it would prob cost about $200-$250 a person and your complaining about prices now. dont quote me on prices but i know its not cheap.


this was the best dday ever. even though i didnt get to drive cause of the wheel incident i was refunded the $95 no questions asked which makes me very happy. lots of drifting and lost of people messing up. the best part about it all is that even though people hit barriers, hay bales, enbankments, lost wheels, blew tires and almost hit a light pole, everyone drove home.

i have to give a big thanks to all the people that showed up, dgtrials, OGP, all the sponsors, and the people that helped bryce get back on the track (that was my ride home).

[teddy]

Glad to know that people aren't entitled to have their own individual opinions anymore.

Thanks for clarifying that for me.

And comparing HOMESTEAD to OGP on prices? Give me a fucking break.

[buck19]

no, you had yours and i had mine. not trying to pick a fight. it just seems like youre saying that you got the short end of the stick even though there were people laying on their frame on the track.
how many turns did they have to homestead? how many at OGP?

[teddy]

Originally posted by buck19
no, you had yours and i had mine. not trying to pick a fight. it just seems like youre saying that you got the short end of the stick even though there were people laying on their frame on the track.
how many turns did they have to homestead? how many at OGP?

Im not crying about anything, or saying I got the short end of the stick. And about your buddy laying his frame on the track, yeah it sucks, but am I suppose to compare my day to his based on what happened w/ his car?

I've said numerous times I had a great time, and I left happy. I was just trying to give my thoughts about future events.

And price per venue isn't based on the amount of turns on the track.

[buck19]

no but it is based on which track it is, how long the track is rented, how many drivers, insurance, EMT services (some require on track EMTs), and a ton of other things.

im not expecting the prices to go down for events like this, but if there wasnt a hurricane you would have probably gotten another 3 sessions.

[teddy]

Originally posted by buck19
im not expecting the prices to go down for events like this, but if there wasnt a hurricane you would have probably gotten another 3 sessions.

How late did Kyle/owners plan on running?

Another 3 sessions would have kicked ass. :mullet:

[buck19]

well to give an idea it was ended early at about 5pm with a final 2 laps for all the drivers that were still there.

[buck19]

oops i messed up. edited

Kyle,

I thought the 'last squeeze' at the end of the day with the 2 laps for all the drivers should be implemented in the rest of the events.

[Clifford]

what about a 2-day event? half and half both days...? It would run a little more for a hotel or something but you would get a lot more seat time....???

[The Kyle]

Awesome, I was hoping for all these new opinions and suggestions.

Everyone with the 'Not enough seat time' complaint. You are 100% correct. I even said it myself, "man i wish i could have gotten everyone at least a few more laps". trust me that was one of my main goals. But due to the event starting late coupled with 51 drivers (I initially set the cut off at 40 but it the track either forgot to stop at 40 or the person at registration just didnt know).

While I was helping to tech cars to get started I remember going car 19 and then a little later I hear "yo thats 49 cars". SHIT! I was happy because we got so many people out, but I was worried because I hoped that with the high amount of cars, I didnt think everyone would get enough seat time.

So yes, next time, with better communication with the staff/track there wont be more than 40 cars.

At the end of the day when the weather was getting bad I was plagued with the task on deciding whether I would cut it off and send everyone home or if i'd run another session. Thats when I started yelling on the megaphone to any and all drivers that wanted to drive to get in their cars NOW and get in line. I wasnt leaving without giving you guys the opportunity to drive at least 2 more times.

So yes, I agree with the fact that 10 laps wasnt enough, and I'm truely sorry. Next time I do plan on having a strict cut off at 40 cars only and we WILL get started earlier. I'll have a date for the next event within a week or two.

As far as night-track-events for $35 dollars goes...Stuff like this is the track owners are getting a bit ahead of themselves. $35/driver would barely cover insurance and misc expenses. They do not understand that a basic track insurance policy will not cover a drift event.

For a drift event, you must have drift-specific insurance where "drifting" is actually listed on the insurance policy as the activity being done. I can tell you right now unfortunately you will never drift on a track for $35/driver.

Frequency of events: Maybe not by the end of this year, but starting January of 2005, expect 1 event per month. I promise you this. Its not going to be easy to do but Trust myself and the rest of the dg staff plan on busting our ass to get you more frequent events with better seat time.

CLIFFNOTES
no you didnt have enough seat time. I know this. you will next time.

drifting for $35/driver is impossible, the track owners were getting ahead of themselves.

if not by the end of this year, starting january 2005 expect at least 1 event per month in florida. promised.

[mranlet]

When people hear about the $25/day Englishtown DOFs and DOWs, that is possible because Englishtown Raceway Park is using their own insurance instead or a 3rd patry's.

We're lucky enough to have a track to drift on (our "pot to piss in"?) and an owner who is as involved as they were (Jeff was driving the golf cart around to help and talking to drivers all day, which was amazing).

The seat time issue has already been addressed, but I'd like to add that there were remarkably few cars breaking down - does anyone remember Miami Slide part 1 where we were accually WAITING for drivers and their cars to line up at the start? Its often hard to say what the attrition rate will be at drift events, and that can effect the amount of runs you get.

Doing a two-day event would most likely be limited by the availibility of the track and whether insurance would allow it.

I stand by Kyle and can also promise that next time your $100 will go farther.

[Dori FC]

it was worth driving 5 hours up there! thanks to MRanlet for the hospitality and the rest of the DG crew for a rocking event!

[mranlet]

Anytime, thanks for coming up!

[miabella]

Yesterday was my first dift event, i was there in support for my bf and i couldnt have been more entertained. Good job to all the drifters.

[Slash]

Kyle. I'd really like to thank you and whoever else came up with the idea to announce the updates for the hurricane. The extra hour or so you saved myself and 8 of my friends basically saved me from having to hydrolock or abandon my integra on the way home, it wasnt long after I arrived home that all of the roads in orlando leading to where I lived were decently flooded. We were able to drop the teg off and evacuate to a friends house off of 27 that was much stronger.

Cliff notes

Thanks a bunch for looking out for the fans as well as the drivers.

[Regina]

Kyle, give yourself props! You did an amazing job. Thank you so much!!

[Matt Vassallo]

Kyle, can you please explain to us what insurance Englishtown uses whenthey let people run DOW and DOF for 35 dollars??

As far as I know they can't even have drift events in parking lots with insurance.. WHy can't the track use their own kind of insurance?

Why can't the track call it a track night, and you can grip it , or drift it, it doesn't matter, your'e still running the track?"

[e30 gangsta]

yeah kyle nice event..... sorry about the grass....

[Philly Blunt]

Personaly i think this was the greatest event ive ever been to. I mean what great staff there was and they were extremely freindly and answerd any questions we had. The price for spectating was free if you didnt want to go into the pits and if you did it was only five dollars, who can beat that. The pre-regristation was only $75 right? I find that to be a perfect price considering that another hurricane dosent come and end the day half way early. But next time im pretty sure that we will all see more track time for the same price and be more happy. The only suggestion is that we get some more seats out there and some food vendors like a hotdog stand because the flea-market food sucked. But all in all i loved taking the trip all the way out there it was well worth it and i hope the next event is soon.



Thanks OGP:)

[teddy]

Originally posted by Slow Kyle
Awesome, I was hoping for all these new opinions and suggestions.

CLIFFNOTES
no you didnt have enough seat time. I know this. you will next time.

drifting for $35/driver is impossible, the track owners were getting ahead of themselves.

if not by the end of this year, starting january 2005 expect at least 1 event per month in florida. promised.

Thanks for being open to all the opinions, and keeping us informed.

I think 40 drivers tops would be great. This would cut down tech time as well.

[The Kyle]

Originally posted by ReginaVagina
Kyle, give yourself props! You did an amazing job. Thank you so much!!

lol, thanks but it wasnt just me...eugene, dennis, mike, josh, ryan, and all of the ogp crew were responsible for making it happen.



Matt: I'm not sure how englishtown works, Rich handles all the up north stuff. I'll try to find out.

[Mars_302]

I had a great time, showed up a little later than expected though. This track is so much nicer than primus. Big thumbs to DGTrials for putting it on and OGP staff as well. Thanks to jeff for carrying nme around on the Golfcart. Thanks for the water as well Kyle :)

Only complaints were not having a better camera like I was supposed to and being stuck up on the sides to take pics. But nothing I can do about either ones

Good times for sure.

[Regina]

Originally posted by Slow Kyle
lol, thanks but it wasnt just me...eugene, dennis, mike, josh, ryan, and all of the ogp crew were responsible for making it happen.



Matt: I'm not sure how englishtown works, Rich handles all the up north stuff. I'll try to find out.

Oh, I know there were a lot of people invovled. I thanked them in the other thread. :) This was your thread so I thanked you because you had a lot to do with it running so well either way. :)

[Funk]

i ruved it!

[moffett]

Why does there need to be insurance? I thought the insurance was just to protect protarty damage. If that is the case. The owner can say he doesn't care about property damage and then you don't need insurance. Why else would you need it?

[Pineapple]

Thanks Kyle. I had an awesome time there. You and your staff were awesome. Two suggestions, I think that anyone should be able to ride along, not just other drivers, and more seats/bleachers. Thanks for putting it together, and you guys rocked out.

[box240mod]

Originally posted by Squints338
Thanks Kyle. I had an awesome time there. You and your staff were awesome. Two suggestions, I think that anyone should be able to ride along, not just other drivers, and more seats/bleachers. Thanks for putting it together, and you guys rocked out.

you errors here are this.... usually anyone couldve ridden along but this time, the tracks INSURANCE policy wouldnt allow for it AND the track ORDERED BLEACHERs but he said the guy who was supposed to deliver mustve evacuated florida or somethign cuz he never showed/called

[PSI240SX]

What about getting the event started earlier.... as in really early. Like on track by 8:00 am. I would have no problem going to bed 2 hours earlier, and getting up earlier as well if it meant that I would be on track sooner, for longer time, and in cooler weather.

All you young bucks just need to not go out and get drunk til 5 am the night before LOL.

[Pineapple]

Originally posted by box240mod
you errors here are this.... usually anyone couldve ridden along but this time, the tracks INSURANCE policy wouldnt allow for it AND the track ORDERED BLEACHERs but he said the guy who was supposed to deliver mustve evacuated florida or somethign cuz he never showed/called
Okay cool:cool:

[Slash]

I agree with Jay and some others on the starting times. We need to either start earlier or finish later if we plan to have more than 40 cars on the track (oreven less cars to give more time). I know this might be difficult for some of the staff to get up early, but possibly more of the track could be set up the night before? or if more manpower is needed I could assist if you needed me to?

[UMZenki]

Thanks for the event Kyle and everybody at DG. Had a great time. Didnt break anything and learned a little bit. Wish i couldve performed better, but it was my first event so i wasnt exactly sure of what to expect of myself. Just need more practice for a better feel of my car i guess.

Thanks again.

[mranlet]

With regard to all the problems - We'll work it out.

The events won't be absolutely perfect next time, but slowly they'll get close.

Thanks again to everyone for coming out.

[The Kyle]

Originally posted by moffett
Why does there need to be insurance? I thought the insurance was just to protect protarty damage. If that is the case. The owner can say he doesn't care about property damage and then you don't need insurance. Why else would you need it?


Thats where you are wrong. Insurance for the event covers not only track damage, but damage to YOU. If YOU get hurt, a driver or spectator. It protects myself and my staff from personal liability in case someone or their property gets hurt/damaged.

[Matt Vassallo]

what are the waivers for then ?

[paul kersey]

that doesnt seem right... its mainly to protect spectators, and the property.

in a nascar event, when the driver crashes, its his responsibilty to fix the car, not the tracks. the waiver is basically saying, if you wreck your car, you cant sue the track.

[neurovish]

Originally posted by Ostrich
what are the waivers for then ?

They're no good against a good lawyer really....and completely useless against next of kin. If somebody at an event was killed, their family could sue DGTrials regardless of agreements betweent DGTrials and the deceased. This is where the insurance comes in I suppose. Kind of like the whole "24 hour library checkout of software", not much more than a false sense of security really. I guess there is some point, keep them from getting sued by poor people who can't afford a good lawyer maybe?

[neurovish]

Originally posted by buck19
no, you had yours and i had mine. not trying to pick a fight. it just seems like youre saying that you got the short end of the stick even though there were people laying on their frame on the track.
how many turns did they have to homestead? how many at OGP?

Although OGP is a really nice track, it gets its nuts rocked by Homestead.
OGP has more turns, but most of them were pretty slow....if that's the criterion, then your local publix has more turns. I think the highest speed I saw all day at OGP was maybe 45....Homestead was more like 70 - 80.

[Matt Vassallo]

Then why even have the waivers?


that's bull crap dude, i hate hte law system.

they don't have this crap in japan!

[Regina]

The event was great and everything, but I just realized that CD's are missing from my glove box. So, I dunno, either someone stole them or someone "borrowed" them and didn't replace them. I'm pretty disappointed. :(

[TNathe]

Isn't it state law that one CANNOT sue a race track? Motocross tracks are that way. You have to sign a waiver plus state law protects the owners from being sued. There have been many injuries/deaths at motocross events and not once has anyone sued. Huh? Oh yeah, great event, even for the spectators. <-- me! +1 on starting earlier. Motocross tracks are racing by 8:30am - 9:00am w/ registration starting at like 7:00am for over a hundred riders. Granted those tracks are full time businesses so if you need any help getting setup before runs take place I would be more than glad to help for free before runs as I am sure many others would too.

Like Jay said, stop getting drunk the night before an event! How the hell you gonna give 100% when your still queezy from the night before? :lol:

[teddy]

+eleventy billion for earlier start time

hell, most of us from orlando didnt even go to bed...if tech was at 4am we wouldve been right on time :)

[skittles]

great job running the show u guys. ill have a video up by the end of next week.. school work and shit comes first ya kno. but it will be hot.

[neurovish]

Originally posted by TNathe
Isn't it state law that one CANNOT sue a race track? Motocross tracks are that way. You have to sign a waiver plus state law protects the owners from being sued.

How does that work?
This is America, you can sue yourself if you want to.

[box240mod]

Originally posted by neurovish
This is America, you can sue yourself if you want to.

hahahaa yea u can, earlier today i tripped on my own shoe layin in the middle of the room..... needless to say i won the law suit... but only turned a 50cent profit.... damn court costs

kyle, have you looked into a 'car' track anywhere yet? the one i can think of that is not too bad would be sebring, but im sure the cost is too high for us at this point.

[The Kyle]

sebring is mega expensive, maybe in the future but for now its out of reach. dont worry, weve got good stuff in the works, events will be better i promise.

[mranlet]

One advantage of having the karting track is that the surface is immaculate (minus the near-instant breakaway)

[thoraxe]

Several things:

1)Thanks to all of you for making this event special. There were some logistical problems we had with the track that will be resolved for next time. Some of these led to too many drivers, not enough seat time, and some other things. We're all glad that you managed to have a good time despite some of the shortcomings, and we hope to be back and be better for Round 2. I'm sorry that I couldn't make it, but I was out in Chicago at the RS-R drift festival fighting with guys like Ken Gushi, Dai Yoshihara, Tony Schulz, etc. I'll try to be there next time, but there's only a certain amount of me to go around.

2) Part of the reason that DOW/DOF is so inexpensive is that we are not the only event going on. Englishtown is a large racing facility that has many venues -- drag, parking lot, motox, etc. They even have a small airport. That particular facility has a unique insurance policy because of all of the activity that they have going on regularly. In addition, their liability coverage limits are most likely quite high due to the nature of the stuff they have going on (MX, for example). Those drivers usually get 6-10 runs and have to spend most of their time waiting around. The pavement surface is absolutely miserable, and we regularly have to dodge potholes, craters, ruts, loose spots, and other maladies just to get a course. On top of that, the NJ State police have total control over the event. If they don't like something, we have to stop and fix whatever it is before we can continue. No third gear drifting there, folks.

3) We live in a litigous society. It sucks. If you don't like it, move, because it's never going to get better. In a country where you can sue McDonalds for spilling coffee on yourself and win, you can expect something like motorsports to be both highly difficult and highly expensive to insure.

The liability insurance that we purchase is for just that -- to protect us from liability. It also affords payment to people in the case that people are injured, hurt, killed, or to protect/prevent against other damages to participants, spectators, passerby, the facility, etc. Despite the fact that you do sign a waiver indicating that you acnkowledge the risks of your participation in these racing activities, it does not prevent you from suing. The insurance is there to not only protect us from such a suit, but to afford us legal counsel and for the insurance company to fight for us in the case that someone does file suit. Our insurance premiums have quadrupled in the last year, and insurance is rapidly becoming almost as expensive as renting the facility, if not more.

Unfortunately, this is not Japan, nor will it ever be, and this insurance problem will not go away soon. In fact, street drift, drifting "exhibitions", the D1GP, and other factors are all combining to make the insurance problem worse. This is why we at DG are trying to establish standards for participation, preparation, operations, and etc. -- so that we can prove to the insurance companies that we know what we are doing and to (hopefully) get us some cheaper rates. Cheaper insurance rates means events are cheaper for you.

The final problem is that we are recycling facilities. Most of the tracks that we are using are very small and do not have much runoff. In some cases the runoff area is actually the driving area from another direction. Because of this it makes it difficult to have many cars on the track at once, if at all. We are trying to also get you more consistent track time, with less waiting in between runs. The ultimate goal would be for everyone to just be hot lapping, but that is not easy.

Remember, we are still learning as much as you are. As you progress and become better and more skilled drifters, so to will we become better and more skilled at hosting these events. Once there is an established base of participants, we can begin to divide groups into skill levels so that the "newbies" are not spinning and taking track time away from the more advanced people. But when you have 50 participants, all of whom have had approximately the same experience at events, it's difficult to say who is a "beginner" and who is "advanced."

If everything works well for 2005, there will be a large number of events in Florida all by itself, not to mention the rest of the East Coast. Kyle, myself, and the other DG staff are working on putting a great 2005 season together, so please stay tuned. We promise some fun things will happen.

Thanks again everyone. I hope to see you soon!

[thoraxe]

One more thing -- starting earlier. I don't know what Ocala's noise regulations are, but, at Primus, for example, we could not start running cars until 10AM. Most facilities have noise windows. Beaver Run in PA cannot have noise before 10AM on Sundays, and some tracks have to shut down before a certain PM on Sundays. It's very difficult.

As for "road courses," not many of them are suitable. Moroso is way too dangerous, and Sebring is fairly oddly shaped. Homestead is wonderful, but only that one small section is usable. To rent that facility for an event would mean entry fees as high as $300 or even $400 for a single day, if we were even able to pull 50 drivers. And that's assuming they would even let us do it. I was involved in some of the initial meetings that Homestead had with the Drift Showoff people, and the track manager was very adamant about the caretaking of the facility. I was surprised we were even allowed to be on their asphalt at all, based on the conversations that were had.

Now, if you guys would be willing to pay $500 for a day at Homestead, I'll start looking into it. But somehow I think that is out of most people's budgets, being that you'd have to not only travel from Tampa (gas) or wherever you are, but then you'd have to pay for lodging, tires, food, and other expenses. When I would do track days at VIR it would easily cost me $500+ for the whole weekend if not more, and you would be looking at $500 for your entry fee alone.

[e30 gangsta]

damn... thanks for all the support your giving the florida people....

and dgtrials needs 2 win the lotto so we can slide every week....

[mranlet]

Yeah, Erik, can you work on winning the lottery for dg trials?

Thanks for the info on all that stuff.

[Regina]

The events are getting better. Just KEEP THEM COMING! That is all I ask.

Also, I guess I'm going to have to lock my doors at all times even though there were cops undercover supposedly at OGP. I find that hard to believe when CD's were taken right out of my glove compartment. :roll:

Oh well. I guess you live and learn.

[Pineapple]

:lol: I was right next to an undercover cop. He was wearing very preppy clothes, sitting by himself, and had a Raulf Lauren hat on. He stood out like a sore thumb. They don't really know whos car is whos though, but sorry to hear about your cds. Hope you find them or get them back.

[e30 gangsta]

why would undercovers be there anyways???

[driftchik]

i was wondering the samething. But you never know what could go down at an event. Weather it be drinking/smoking a fight, in Reginas case... stealing. I think it's good they were there, but "undercover" hrm, there was no reason to be undercover

[Matt Vassallo]

Yeah, undercover maybe because they were Off-Duty :lol:

[PSI240SX]

someone "borrowed" my 1/2 drive ratchet extension and never returned it.... Thanks a lot and dont anyone ever ask me for a single tool again.

[neurovish]

Maybe we need a "Borrowed at DDay3 Thread", I had an air pressure guage that was borrowed a couple times over that didn't find its way back......no big deal really, but it'd be cool to see it again at the next event :)

[Dori FC]

thanks to the dude in the 20v hachi for making Funk crap a brick

[e30 gangsta]

Originally posted by Dori FC
thanks to the dude in the 20v hachi for making Funk crap a brick

damn u gonna let him talk 2 u like that???

[Dori FC]

Originally posted by e30 gangsta
damn u gonna let him talk 2 u like that???
its type not talk u dickmeat