CALLING OUT - InsaneCivicSedan

[Cronic]

This isn't a typical call out. You're always guestimating on how much power your car is putting down, and EVERYONE wants to see it on paper. PappaSmurf has GENEROUSLY said he would pay for one run at Sam's dyno (Coastal). Which means you have NO EXCUSE not to get this done. Hell, I'll make it worth your wild, and chip in for another run if you want.

Now you have NO EXCUSE!!! Dyno that drag queen, and get this over with.


You won't.

[InsaneCivicCoupe]

I certainly will if we can arrange this for a day I dont work :D

[Cronic]

It'll never happen. IF I set this up with Sam, you CAN'T back down. You can't make up some excuse, or blow your car up. I don't want to bother him for nothing.

[60-1EK]

Must happen. Then after that a track session.

[THE_ONE]

ha ha ha, you wont pay for him you wont :lol:

Your gonna have to wait for him to get some final adjustments done first!

[Cronic]

No no, none of this adjustment crap, none of this "wait for my new setup" bullshit.

It's go time. As soon as I hear back from Sam.

[InsaneCivicCoupe]

I'll dyno it on this setup Sunday if you set it up, but I tell you now, my car needs tuning BADLY.... But I will run it as is, then when the new kit is on, and its all tuned up, youll see the new numbers at the H/A dyno day....

[jsimon9631]

this is the most hilarious call out ever lol


"Drag queen" lol called out to the dyno! BURN!

[Cronic]

It doesn't matter. I want to see for a fact, how much boost your running, how rich you are, and just how much power you're putting down.

[InsaneCivicCoupe]

We shall see.... ;)

[Cronic]

Originally posted by jsimon9633
this is the most hilarious call out ever lol


"Drag queen" lol called out to the dyno! BURN!

Don't take that for more then face value. Chris is a friend of mine, and I always pick on him. ;) No harsh feelings were meant, and he knows this.

[THE_ONE]

And so we shall

[fathead]

LOL!!!! :lol: i say 255whp.... any other guesses???

[jsimon9631]

Originally posted by Cronic
Don't take that for more then face value. Chris is a friend of mine, and I always pick on him. ;) No harsh feelings were meant, and he knows this.

I know I honestly thought this was just hilarious though haha. its usually the other way around hehe.

He does guesstimate quite a bit lol.

[jsimon9631]

Originally posted by fathead
LOL!!!! :lol: i say 255whp.... any other guesses???

i say 280whp and running too lean at low rpms and too rich at high ones :lol: :lol:

lets make a pool for Chris's dyno numbers :)

[fathead]

Originally posted by jsimon9633
i say 280whp and running too lean at low rpms and too rich at high ones :lol: :lol:

lets make a pool for Chris's dyno numbers :)


you sure its not vice versa??? :lol: and 280 is giving him the benefit of the doubt....

[jsimon9631]

Originally posted by fathead
you sure its not vice versa??? :lol: and 280 is giving him the benefit of the doubt....

lol signs point to my prediction being correct!

I have faith in Chris Dyno-less tuning ability so I went with 280 :lol: :lol:

[InsaneCivicCoupe]

Actually, it runs rich all the way across the spectrum, and thats partially why my gas mileage is so shitty......

[jsimon9631]

Originally posted by InsaneCivicSedan
Actually, it runs rich all the way across the spectrum, and thats partially why my gas mileage is so shitty......

oh yes i forgot bout that! you do get like 10mpg :lol: :lol:

I guess I cant talk too much my car has been running way rich lately lol so rich that a puff of black smoke everytime i get on it and shift :lol: :lol:

but I dynoed 150whp so I didnt lose any power wooooooooo

[Cronic]

255 isnt a bad guess. especially if he's running pig rich.

My estimation was 250-280whp. So we'll see. I don't even know what sized turbo he's running anymore. :?

I do recall it being a rather large turbo, and him saying he was running 18psi....

[MustangMosachi]

mine runs rich, and i dont get crappy gas milage. and i have a mustang.

[fathead]

its a big blow dryer...... and 255 is a pretty respectable number, concidering you match the times with trap speeds and weight of car.....

[jsimon9631]

Originally posted by fathead
its a big blow dryer...... and 255 is a pretty respectable number, concidering you match the times with trap speeds and weight of car.....

fathead not to start shiz again but i feel like doing a call out to skittle of the same manner :lol: :lol: hes always saying how he guesstimates 300whp!

has he ever raced Chris?

[MustangMosachi]

Originally posted by fathead
255 is a pretty respectable numberweight of car..... is that WHP your talking about?

[fathead]

yea hes raced chris.... and as any honda wiht a decently sized turbo it pulls top end do to jamie have a pooney ass 16g..... and mustang if you know chris then you know his car and you know its very capable of 255whp.... which like i said is respectable in a 2300 lb car!!!

[my_baby_si]

chris-

i wanna see these numbers so i know what im up against. that way when we run it wont be too much of a surprise for me. i hate surprises! ;)

[60-1EK]

Insane,

Are you running Uberdata?

[MustangMosachi]

so insanecivicsedan. PM me if you want to run me this weekend.

[jsimon9631]

Originally posted by fathead
yea hes raced chris.... and as any honda wiht a decently sized turbo it pulls top end do to jamie have a pooney ass 16g..... and mustang if you know chris then you know his car and you know its very capable of 255whp.... which like i said is respectable in a 2300 lb car!!!

oh ok. so Im guessin Chris beat him? not by much I imagine? Chris's car runs good I do believe itll be at least 250-275whp

[jsimon9631]

Originally posted by fathead
which like i said is respectable in a 2300 lb car!!! [/B]

I thought his car weighed more like 2800lbs

[InsaneCivicCoupe]

Im gonna go out on a whim here, and guess Im a little closer to the 280-300 range... Its a Precision PT-67 (.63a/r stage V exhaust, 360 race bearing center, and to4S cover with a 67mm compressor wheel) And I run between 15 and 19 pounds... Street tuning on 17psi, the a/f was about 11.5:1 under full boost, so on 19 I guesstimate between 11.8 and 12:1....

[jsimon9631]

Originally posted by InsaneCivicSedan
Im gonna go out on a whim here, and guess Im a little closer to the 280-300 range... Its a Precision PT-67 (.63a/r stage V exhaust, 360 race bearing center, and to4S cover with a 67mm compressor wheel) And I run between 15 and 19 pounds... Street tuning on 17psi, the a/f was about 11.5:1 under full boost, so on 19 I guesstimate between 11.8 and 12:1....

oh nm new turbo i was basing it off the t3-t04 you used to have

does your car weigh 2300lbs or 2800lb? ill go ahead and say 280whp :)

[fathead]

chris beat him after about 100-110 but im sure he missed 5th or something :lol: jfwy chris....:wink: but berto i chill with chris more then you think, so i know what im talking about..... and he might have more then 255 but up in the higher rpms.... due to lag.....

[jsimon9631]

Originally posted by fathead
chris beat him after about 100-110 but im sure he missed 5th or something :lol: jfwy chris....:wink: but berto i chill with chris more then you think, so i know what im walking about.....

im sure you do but i thought i remember asking chris how much hi s car weighed and he told me 3000 lbs with him in it and i dont think he weighs 600lbs :lol: :lol: :lol:

[InsaneCivicCoupe]

Originally posted by my_baby_si
chris-

i wanna see these numbers so i know what im up against. that way when we run it wont be too much of a surprise for me. i hate surprises! ;)

Im sure it will be no secret.... I'll keep you posted ;)

Originally posted by 60-1EK
Insane,

Are you running Uberdata?

Yes sir :)

Originally posted by MustangMosachi
so insanecivicsedan. PM me if you want to run me this weekend.

Will do.... ;)

Originally posted by jsimon9633
I thought his car weighed more like 2800lbs

Its probably right around that WITH me in it......

[Cronic]

7pm friday. Coastal Dyno.

PM me for directions, or goto www.coastaldyno.com for the address, and use mapquest you lazy fucks.

I will also be meeting Chris at the 7/11 on 78th St. and Causeway Blvd.

[InsaneCivicCoupe]

Friday it is :D

[fathead]

i wanna go!!!!

[InsaneCivicCoupe]

You wont!!! :D

[The Spectacle]

I wanna see this shit too...fellow 4 doe

[Skittle]

1st off--Me and Chris have NEVER "raced"

2nd-i dont "claim" 300whp...as in i do claim 300ft lbs torque

3rd-i'm sure Chris would pull me over 110mph due to my pussy ass 16g

4th-im gonna say anywhere from 260-275 ish with 200-220 ft lbs

[16ggst]

hmmm? chris has a way bigger setup than me and i was able to put down 264h/276t on 19 psi untuned on the second run with a stock side mount, so im guess hes anywhere around there to 290? but i will be there to watch

[1slowaguila]

Originally posted by 16ggst
hmmm? chris has a way bigger setup than me and i was able to put down 264h/276t on 19 psi untuned on the second run with a stock side mount, so im guess hes anywhere around there to 290? but i will be there to watch

:? Why even dyno on a sidemount?I'm in for the pool on the dyno number.

[16ggst]

Originally posted by 1slowaguila
:? Why even dyno on a sidemount?I'm in for the pool on the dyno number.

because i like to see what gains i get with each mod i do

[MugenR]

holy crap! your running 17+lbs on that turbo without a built motor and without tuning????? unbeleivable! you must love to rebuild motors....
good luck at the dyno.
my buddy made 270hp and 215tq at 12lbs in his stock LS with a T3T04B turbo.

scott

scott

[1slowaguila]

Originally posted by MugenR
holy crap! your running 17+lbs on that turbo without a built motor and without tuning????? unbeleivable! you must love to rebuild motors....
good luck at the dyno.
my buddy made 270hp and 215tq at 12lbs in his stock LS with a T3T04B turbo.

scott

scott

Are you reffering to Insanecivic or 16ggst?

[Strongest Man In The World]

i say 195

[Cronic]

What's odd about LS's is they don't seem to like making more then 280whp without EMS and great tuning. Stock internals will begin to fail shortly after 320whp. Starting with those ringlands, and ending with rods smashing through the block.

17psi on that large turbo will either blow your engine, or be too much for the engine to flow. I dont think he's going to make more then 280whp.

However, I could be wrong. :)

[cubanguerrilla]

I thought chris had a built motor...either way im game to see this....let me know if one more doesnt hurt you on the trip.....

[Cronic]

Kris does have pistons, but has stock rods IIRC.

[DONT SLEEP]

thats gay. how come no one ever offers to pay for my dyno pulls:?

[qitstrn]

Does that motor atleast have a blockguard in it?

[Cronic]

Nothing.

[fathead]

Originally posted by Skittle
1st off--Me and Chris have NEVER "raced"

2nd-i dont "claim" 300whp...as in i do claim 300ft lbs torque

3rd-i'm sure Chris would pull me over 110mph due to my pussy ass 16g

4th-im gonna say anywhere from 260-275 ish with 200-220 ft lbs


stop acting like the rest of the fags on this site.... stop being such an asshole and tell the truth ya raced at the "track" stop fronting bro you race crhis beat him til about 100-110 and then his bigger turbo and longer gears= him beating you up top..... thats that...

[qitstrn]

Originally posted by Cronic
Nothing. :o He is crazy. That thing is going to puke on the dyno.

[DONT SLEEP]

Originally posted by qitstrn
:o He is crazy. That thing is going to puke on the dyno. i wanna watch!!!

[Cronic]

He's been running it like this for a couple weeks now. :evil2: who knows... maybe it's a Wednesday motor.

[DONT SLEEP]

HELLO???is anyone gonna pay for MY dyno time

[Cronic]

No. :lol:

[Rob and Dave@Big Valley]

you can pay for my dyno 2i will show you my numbers

[DONT SLEEP]

FAG

[MugenR]

Chris: what size injectors are you running? 17-19psi outa that turbo is good for 500+hp so either he is running stupid lean which is what is making the turbo create so much boost or his boost guage is wrong.
Either way, its gotta be a "wed." motor cause its still holding together.

scott

[Rob and Dave@Big Valley]

who you calling a fag

[DONT SLEEP]

im calling cronic a fag. but i SHOULD call you one cause i dont like eclipses :lol: but i wont cause your still a newb. moving right along....

[1slowaguila]

Originally posted by BROTHERS
who you calling a fag

Ok girls lets not get this locked.If he's on stock rods it might not be purty....

[Rob and Dave@Big Valley]

I SAY AROUND 320 280

[Cronic]

Originally posted by BROTHERS
you can pay for my dyno 2i will show you my numbers

No way, you have a 2g, I wouldn't put Sam's dyno to the possible abuse of it crankwalking all over his shop.

:lol:

besides, we all know 2g's don't make over 300whp ;)

[16ggst]

Originally posted by Cronic
No way, you have a 2g, I wouldn't put Sam's dyno to the possible abuse of it crankwalking all over his shop.

:lol:

besides, we all know 2g's don't make over 300whp ;)

lol hold up, hey we have 1g hearts so no crankwalking over here and do i recall making more power than your crazy 6cyl lol and it was on a 16g with all stock piping and stock intercooler :D

[Cronic]

Im on stock turbo ;) stock engine, stock everything. Cept intercooler and exhaust. :D You made nowhere near my torque either. :D

[Cronic]

Originally posted by 16ggst
hmmm? chris has a way bigger setup than me and i was able to put down 264h/276t on 19 psi untuned on the second run with a stock side mount, so im guess hes anywhere around there to 290? but i will be there to watch

besides, I made 266whp/324wtq

Horsepower was 16psi, Torque was 20. :)

[16ggst]

lol hey at least my car started on the dyno hahahah :lol:



oh way by the way after i fix the honda i will race you :D

[fathead]

Originally posted by DONT SLEEP
im calling cronic a fag. but i SHOULD call you one cause i dont like eclipses :lol: but i wont cause your still a newb. moving right along....



bwaaaaaaaaahahahahahahahahaha....... let me guess you ls crx can beat that "gay" eclipse huh??? how about to put some money on this big guy??? im sure david and rob wont mind losing to a mid 13 second honda right guys...:lol: come out this saturday.... the car in their sig is the car they drive and its not a joke.... im sure you know what i look like so saturday come on out and we can go to the "track" and settle whatever needs to be settled, no name calling necessary.....

[Cronic]

:lol: Better have a 20g or a t3/t4 big boy.

[Cronic]

NO NAME CALLING?! That takes the fun outa it...

[16ggst]

Originally posted by Cronic
:lol: Better have a 20g or a t3/t4 big boy.


lol i think my 16g will do the trick

[fathead]

yea that have a 20g:evil2: :lol:

[16ggst]

im putting this call out in for fathead....


hes calling out dont sleep to fight at the next carrollwood meet, no cars just fists.

[fathead]

:lol:.... you wont!!!!

[fathead]

lol even if it were with cars itll be the same outcome.... cutlass>crx..... its physics meng....

[Cronic]

Keep the fighting bullshit outa my thraed. PM each other.

[fathead]

hey now its not fighting..... simple shit talking man..... you know how we do big baby!!!! LOL :lol:

[DONT SLEEP]

ummm ok??????

[Cronic]

"fists" isn't just shit talking. Keep it on the car level bro. Call his car a pussy or something. :lol:

[fathead]

i wouldnt discriminate to only his car...... but it is a pussy i guess??? :dunno: i just want him to run the brothers "gay" eclipse...... thats all i ask...

[DONT SLEEP]

i personally dont like the way eclipses look? so what the big deal? people want to fight over me thinking their car looks gay? come on get a life already. why would you want to run a poor lil LS motor?

[DAMPACHI]

I just dont understand how you can run that air/fuel with 450's and 17 psi of boost? I run 12psi and close to maxed out the 450's on my LS........... I now run 550's and am making high 200's and mid 200's tq with a some room to spare. Im thinking by looking at my maps and how my car runs that 450's are good to roughly 300whp and 550's to 350whp.Not nocking you or calling you a liar, but, how is this possible?

[Cronic]

I love the first 2g's. Something about the half-moon bumper is just much better. Eclipses are still slow ;)

[fathead]

Originally posted by DONT SLEEP
i personally dont like the way eclipses look? so what the big deal? people want to fight over me thinking their car looks gay? come on get a life already. why would you want to run a poor lil LS motor?


CUZ ITS UBER FAST SILLY!!!:D :D :D i didnt know you were reffering to the looks of them i thought you meant the brothers car specifically.... my bad cuz....:lol: :lol: :lol:


hey chris, spoon has a huge point... i saw your other turbo that was leaned the hell out.... white exhaust wheel and all..:lol: :lol:

[Cronic]

*shrug* Im faster. :D

[DONT SLEEP]

its cool. but i really wouldnt mind racing 16ggst.

what do you say sat night ?

[16ggst]

Originally posted by DONT SLEEP
its cool. but i really wouldnt mind racing 16ggst.

what do you say sat night ?


we will have to see what the status of the honda is, im trying not to race much until i have some back up wheels.

[DONT SLEEP]

what honda? all i got is a ls motor no vtec. i want to run your eclipse

[16ggst]

no im dropping a new motor in a honda i just got so i have a daily driver, the eclipse isnt being too cooperative

honda should be done this weekend

[1slowaguila]

Originally posted by fathead
yea that have a 20g:evil2: :lol:

If the brothers race dont sleep i hope they give him a chance on low boost.:lol:

[16ggst]

Originally posted by 1slowaguila
If the brothers race dont sleep i hope they give him a chance on low boost.:lol:


or no boost :lol:

[Cronic]

I hope the bro's have LSD, and DR's.

[DONT SLEEP]

Originally posted by 16ggst
no im dropping a new motor in a honda i just got so i have a daily driver, the eclipse isnt being too cooperative

honda should be done this weekend i want to race the eclipse not the honda

[DONT SLEEP]

Originally posted by Cronic
I hope the bro's have LSD, and DR's.

i dont know who this brothers person isso please dont take offence to this. i just love how people assume shit right away. but its all good. like jeff said i hope the have lsd and a good tires.

[Cronic]

I think I know who this guy is, John introduced me to him recently.

[Jap]

290/225

[16ggst]

Originally posted by DONT SLEEP
i want to race the eclipse not the honda



The honda is a daily driver, once that is complete i will race the eclipse, i just cant have a repeat of last week i need my car to work

[DONT SLEEP]

alright then. lmk when the clipse is ready. then we'll run

[fathead]

^ i dont think you know what your getting yourself into meng... johns car is one nasty little whore....

[Cronic]

We should have a pool on who thinks the car will blowup or not! :D :lol:

[DONT SLEEP]

Originally posted by fathead
^ i dont think you know what your getting yourself into meng... johns car is one nasty little whore....

i dont know what your talking about, my motor wont be the same by the time he gets his eclipse out........

[Cronic]

John's car is very nice. I'd PIITE.

[16ggst]

Originally posted by DONT SLEEP
i dont know what your talking about, my motor wont be the same by the time he gets his eclipse out........

well im not taking my car down, so its ready just not taking the risk til i have the other car, so i should be ready this weekend or at the latest next

[16ggst]

Originally posted by Cronic
John's car is very nice. I'd PIITE.

yes it is nice and warm in there :D

[fathead]

ive never ever seen john fall victim to a honda.... let alone a n/a one, and if you spray make sure you dont tell him cuz hell get on here and talk that ish...:roll:...... :lol: i just hope you know what your getting youself into.... he isnt on of your brandon "track" gs-t's.....

[fathead]

john ill help you swap the honda... give me a call when you plan on doing it....

[qitstrn]

Originally posted by fathead
ive never ever seen john victim to a honda.... let alone a n/a one, and if you spray make sure you dont tell him cuz hell get on here and talk that ish...:roll:...... :lol: i just hope you know what your getting youself into.... he isnt on of your brandon "track" gs-t's..... I have a honda:D

[16ggst]

Originally posted by qitstrn
I have a honda:D

lol normal hondas

[qitstrn]

Originally posted by spoon_integra
I just dont understand how you can run that air/fuel with 450's and 17 psi of boost? I run 12psi and close to maxed out the 450's on my LS........... I now run 550's and am making high 200's and mid 200's tq with a some room to spare. Im thinking by looking at my maps and how my car runs that 450's are good to roughly 300whp and 550's to 350whp.Not nocking you or calling you a liar, but, how is this possible? He will see when he puts it on the dyno. when i had 440's they were maxed out at 325whp. I say it doesnt make over 300 thats if it holds together.

[fathead]

Originally posted by qitstrn
I have a honda:D


not the big bad boy built out the culo hondas.... go pick on a v8 or something!!! :lol: jfwy man...

[DONT SLEEP]

john=16ggsr right?

[Cronic]

I had a Honda. :( I wish John luck when I get it together again. :)

[16ggst]

Originally posted by qitstrn
He will see when he puts it on the dyno. when i had 440's they were maxed out at 325whp. I say it doesnt make over 300 thats if it holds together.


i think it should hold together, its the same setup he runs every weekend , and as long as he doesnt change anything the dyno shouldnt kill him

[16ggst]

Originally posted by DONT SLEEP
john+16ggsr

eh???

[DONT SLEEP]

are you john?

[16ggst]

Originally posted by Cronic
I had a Honda. :( I wish John luck when I get it together again. :)

by then my honda will ready :evil2:

[16ggst]

Originally posted by DONT SLEEP
are you john?

yes

[Cronic]

Johnny Steal! (pun.)

[HAVOC]

I guestimate insanecivic sedans car to put down 210 to the wheels. :nerd:

[Cronic]

:lol:

[fathead]

he is john not john steal dammit!!!! government name isnt fun on the intraweb....:lol:

[16ggst]

dont worry its just my stage name :lol:

[DONT SLEEP]

im game just leyt me know when your ready!!!

[shalane]

Originally posted by DONT SLEEP
im game just leyt me know when your ready!!! why are you ready to race everybody but me that you called out a long time ago :)

[Rob and Dave@Big Valley]

Originally posted by DONT SLEEP
im calling cronic a fag. but i SHOULD call you one cause i dont like eclipses :lol: but i wont cause your still a newb. moving right along.... NO ITS ALL GOOD I JUST DIDNT KNOW WHO YOU WERE TALKING TO BUT AS FOR THE CAR IT HAS ENOUGH TO GIVE SOME PEOPLE A RUN FOR THERE MONEY

[Cronic]

Ahhh, I remember you now. I know the location well. I was with John when it was raining so bad, when we took that intercooler off. ;)

[Rob and Dave@Big Valley]

YEA I WAS IN THE CAR TURNING OFF HIS CHECK ENGINE LIGHT OFF

[onefastcavyz24]

Originally posted by BROTHERS
YEA I WAS IN THE CAR TURNING OFF HIS CHECK ENGINE LIGHT OFF
Hey you guys are going to be out again this weekend right. So i can get your car on tape a little more. Cause last week there was only about 5 mins good of your car. I can get some good video of the car then make you a good copy.

[Rob and Dave@Big Valley]

Originally posted by onefastcavyz24
Hey you guys are going to be out again this weekend right. So i can get your car on tape a little more. Cause last week there was only about 5 mins good of your car. I can get some good video of the car then make you a good copy. YEA WE WILL BE OUT THERE THIS WEEKEND THAT SOUNDS LIKE A PLAN BUT DONT LET PABLO RECORD CAUSE HE CANT RECORD FOR NOTHING THANKS

[THE_ONE]

jsgfjknhaskljaghklhal, the Brothers Turbo is small jk.........But they are the fastest gst out right now with the exception of Eric being down.

[InsaneCivicCoupe]

All this talk about blowing up on the dyno has me itching to up the boost :D


But I wont, because this is just to see what it does in street trim on a shitty tune

[Cronic]

STILL waiting on the Smurf to chime in. I haven't gotten ahold of him since he said he'd pay for a run..

[InsaneCivicCoupe]

He just said that cuz he thought I wouldnt :lol:

[16ggst]

Originally posted by Migsubishi
jsgfjknhaskljaghklhal, the Brothers Turbo is small jk.........But they are the fastest gst out right now with the exception of Eric being down.

excuse me!!

[DONT SLEEP]

Originally posted by shalane
why are you ready to race everybody but me that you called out a long time ago :)

theres no need for me to race you, YET. whats the sence of racing a 11 second car when im only running ??.?'s

[Gunslinger09]

Originally posted by DONT SLEEP
theres no need for me to race you, YET. whats the sence of racing a 11 second car when im only running ??.?'s

Besides that whats the sense of running a car without insurance? Fix that first sparky then you can go out and race. :lol:

[DONT SLEEP]

i get off work at 12 today so can get all my insurance and registration shit taken care of

[Cronic]

On topic! You going to be there CJ??

[DONT SLEEP]

be where?

[Gunslinger09]

Originally posted by DONT SLEEP
i get off work at 12 today so can get all my insurance and registration shit taken care of

Outstanding!:D

Don't do that shit anymore damn it. :lol:

[Cronic]

Duh the dyno.

[DONT SLEEP]

hit me up on my cell and im there

[Cronic]

PM me your numbah

[Rob and Dave@Big Valley]

Originally posted by Migsubishi
jsgfjknhaskljaghklhal, the Brothers Turbo is small jk.........But they are the fastest gst out right now with the exception of Eric being down. THANKS FOR THE PROPS...

[PoppaSmurf]

holy shit its friday?...well fuck me freddy, sorry i haven't been on, i got sent down to sanibel island to work at a resort that got fucked up in the hurricane, i will stand by my word, however

[Mike]

im saying 235 on th mustang dyno with shitty tuning.... also, anyone going to video this?

[Cronic]

I'm bringing the camera, that's the best I can do.

Sean, meet up with me at the 7/11 at 7pm near Sam's shop. Or just meet us there at 7pm.

[1 Edm Svt]

Chronic, Insane & PoppaSmurf,

I may be out there also. Depending on what time I get outta work.

Josh

[16ggst]

yo cronic hook me up with a ride!

[Cronic]

You're more then welcome to join.

[16ggst]

you gonna pick me up big boy? or i can meet you somewhere if no one is driving with you

[InsaneCivicCoupe]

Originally posted by MerkurGuy
im saying 235 on th mustang dyno with shitty tuning.... also, anyone going to video this?

He does have Dyno Jet now.... :D

[InsaneCivicCoupe]

Originally posted by 1 Edm Svt
Chronic, Insane & PoppaSmurf,

I may be out there also. Depending on what time I get outta work.

Josh

Ill be lookin forward to meeting you ;)

[fathead]

Originally posted by BROTHERS
YEA WE WILL BE OUT THERE THIS WEEKEND THAT SOUNDS LIKE A PLAN BUT DONT LET PABLO RECORD CAUSE HE CANT RECORD FOR NOTHING THANKS


niggarachi you crazy..... i forgot to turn the cam off but i got all the videos good as hell man..... regardless im gonna try and make it to the dyno to see if chris is making all of this pproclaimed power....

[InsaneCivicCoupe]

Hope this weather passes over :(

[Cronic]

Fuck weather pussy. Rain or shine modafucka!

[16ggst]

lol chris that excuse wont work, the dyno is inside

[InsaneCivicCoupe]

But driving there is outside.... Shitty windshield wipers and no defrost > me... :( It will pass... Going to do an oil change now.... :)

[Cronic]

The excuses are flying already. Don't waste money on the oil change, your oil will just be all over Sam's floor tonight. :lol:

[16ggst]

next we know its gonna be "i cant go guys my dome light burnt out" :lol: jfwy

[jsimon9631]

Originally posted by 16ggst
next we know its gonna be "i cant go guys my dome light burnt out" :lol: jfwy :lol: :lol:

lol oh oh Chris is already practicing the excuses :-p

i might stop by since i work like 10min from Sams shop and my car is actually washed woot will probably rain right now with my luck hah


come on chris we have faith in you!

[InsaneCivicCoupe]

Im still going... Might just have to stop frequently to wipe the fog off the windshield...

Never said I wasnt going, just said I hope the weather passes....

[jsimon9631]

Originally posted by InsaneCivicSedan
Im still going... Might just have to stop frequently to wipe the fog off the windshield...

Never said I wasnt going, just said I hope the weather passes....

lol that sucks bro fix the the shit!

[Cronic]

This is Chris we're talking about....

[jsimon9631]

Originally posted by Cronic
This is Chris we're talking about.... :lol: :lol:

He is going I have faith!

[Alpha]

I have no idea what size injectors you are running but with that turbocharger you should be making about 350whp - 365whp @ 17lbs untuned. We will see :D

[Keith]

so what happened???
-Keith

[60-1EK]

Originally posted by `92CXhatch
so what happened???
-Keith

[1 Edm Svt]

278 fwhp, and 206 fwtq @ 17.5 psi.

Josh

[smokeshow]

:?

[AnTman86T]

Not bad, how was the afr ? Did the graph show that the torque and hp is peaking down and needs a bad tune or what?

[InsaneCivicCoupe]

Just FYI we backed the boost down a little to about 17.5psi just to be safe... all the talk about blowing up kinda scared me...

Torque steadily dropped due to the motor heating up because the inlet on the turbo so conveniently sits 2 inches behind my radiator fan.... I had one run on about 16psi, that spun the tires on the dyno and read about 258 lb ft torque....

Air fuel looked really good... Being tuned on a stock map kinda sucks because it gets really fat at 10psi, then steadily leans back out to about 11.8-12:1 under full boost...

Keep in mind, this was on a shitty street tune... There will be more tuning to come, and we WILL get that 300hp sheet.... :)

[InsaneCivicCoupe]

Originally posted by 1 Edm Svt
278 fwhp, and 206 fwtq @ 17.5 psi.

Josh

Nice meeting you man :thumbup: ... Hope to see you around ;)

[qitstrn]

Originally posted by 1 Edm Svt
278 fwhp, and 206 fwtq @ 17.5 psi.

Josh nice numbers but thats alot of boost for them.

[PoppaSmurf]

whenever whoever paid for the run sees me next, feel free to collect, i offered to pay and ill stand by it although i wasnt able to show up

[jsimon9631]

Originally posted by 1 Edm Svt
278 fwhp, and 206 fwtq @ 17.5 psi.

Josh

mmm lot of boost heh but i guess for a street tune that isnt half bad.

chris im glad you at least made it out there :)

[Cronic]

More like 19 fucking PSI.

Sam said it was 18-19psi.

Not 17.5... Who the fuck comes up with a half PSI of boost on an analong guage!?

Congrats on the runs Chris, took a while but it got worked out.

Agreed the exhaust housing is chokeing that turbo. .63 t3 exhaust housing is NOT made for that large of a turbo

[Cronic]

The tires did NOT spin on the dyno. Sam said it felt like they MIGHT have spun, and he sprayed the tires down TO BE SAFE.

Jesus.....

[jsimon9631]

Originally posted by Cronic
More like 19 fucking PSI.

Sam said it was 18-19psi.

Not 17.5... Who the fuck comes up with a half PSI of boost on an analong guage!?

Congrats on the runs Chris, took a while but it got worked out.

Agreed the exhaust housing is chokeing that turbo. .63 t3 exhaust housing is NOT made for that large of a turbo :lol: :lol:

[Cronic]

He would make more power on a t3/t4 50 trim :lol:

[Mars_302]

Not bad, let me loan you some torque though. :)

[InsaneCivicCoupe]

He said they did spin, thus the out of whack torque numbers, and from the front, we all saw it lift up and get real crazy on the dyno.... Thats why after the VHT and restrapping it, we saw some better torque numbers, not neccesarily higher, but more accurate... And I watched the boost gauge on one of the little test runs before the last pass after I adjusted the boost, and I saw it between 17 and 18, so I think his statement was accurate....

[Mars_302]

Whats your car weigh again?

[HAVOC]

Originally posted by InsaneCivicSedan
Torque steadily dropped due to the motor heating up because the inlet on the turbo so conveniently sits 2 inches behind my radiator fan.... I had one run on about 16psi, that spun the tires on the dyno and read about 258 lb ft torque....


LMAO, that thing has no where near enough power to spin the tires on the dyno!


:lol:


and that street tune is BS! you know u tuned that bitch for maximum performance today.... why don't you quit being a ricer for 5 minutes and say somehting like this.

"my car put down xxx hp and xxx tq."


no excuses, not senarios, no what ifs.

[to4b35]

about 1000lbs less then yours... :lol: come on, its a 4 door civic.. you can guestimate that.

[Cronic]

The car was not strapped down tight enough, which is WHY the car lifted up, you did not spin, the spray was a precaution.

[InsaneCivicCoupe]

It did spin on the dyno, which is why it made those whacked torque numbers on that run.... Sam explained this to me, so you can just ask him if you need more confirmation....

[InsaneCivicCoupe]

and by the way, it weighs about 2500.....

[16ggst]

Originally posted by HAVOC
LMAO, that thing has no where near enough power to spin the tires on the dyno!


:lol:


and that street tune is BS! you know u tuned that bitch for maximum performance today.... why don't you quit being a ricer for 5 minutes and say somehting like this.

"my car put down xxx hp and xxx tq."


no excuses, not senarios, no what ifs.


im in a bad mood, so i will say this now, shut the fuck up!

[Cronic]

Well I spoke with him too, while he was spraying the tires. :lol: So I guess we're both getting different stories. :roll:

[to4b35]

You guys want me to get the gloves out?

[Cronic]

Originally posted by InsaneCivicSedan
It did spin on the dyno, which is why it made those whacked torque numbers on that run.... Sam explained this to me, so you can just ask him if you need more confirmation....

Just to bring SOME logic into your mind Chris... If the tires SPUN on the dyno, wouldn't that make LESS torque? Because they wouldnt have made contact enough to spin the rollers? Use your head.

[Trip]

Come on chris, lets run. Street tires. Roll or dig you call it.Go ahead and beat up on my lil onegle cam

[1slowaguila]

Originally posted by HAVOC
LMAO, that thing has no where near enough power to spin the tires on the dyno!


:lol:


and that street tune is BS! you know u tuned that bitch for maximum performance today.... why don't you quit being a ricer for 5 minutes and say somehting like this.

"my car put down xxx hp and xxx tq."


no excuses, not senarios, no what ifs.


:lol: Thats kinda messd up Havoc.I guessed you would do around 280 but torque is lower than i expected.:? I hopefully put about the same on my 14b.:D

[BigBadBuick]

Wanna run the Buick? I'm on a street tune also :lol:

[qitstrn]

Originally posted by Cronic
Just to bring SOME logic into your mind Chris... If the tires SPUN on the dyno, wouldn't that make LESS torque? Because they wouldnt have made contact enough to spin the rollers? Use your head. 280whp doesnt spin on the dyno unless you have pizza cutters. Something is wrong because you should make that kind of power on 12-14lbs. Also autometer boost gauges dont read accurate. Mine is off by 2 lbs. I go by reading the mapsensor. Well i would sasy that car with good traction should run low 12's.

[Cronic]

Ron, the reason (as far as I can tell) he is making such low power on a larger compressor, is that the exhaust side is still using a t3 exducer, and only a stage 5 wheel. In order to make any decent power with such a huge compressor housing, he'd need a P or Q wheel, and a big t4 shaft machined inside that tiny housing. I wouldnt trust that turbo to spin high rpm. The t3 tiny shaft inside there might not be able to turn it, and break.

[MustangMosachi]

Originally posted by qitstrn
Also autometer boost gauges dont read accurate. Mine is off by 2 lbs. I go by reading the mapsensor. . I have autometer gauges and they read just fine.

[InsaneCivicCoupe]

OK, Im going to explain this the way sam explained it to me... That run that made 258 torque was due to it spinning on the dyno, which caused the torque to jump... Here is why.... He told me when it starts to spin on the dyno, and then hooks again, that sudden jolt in torque somehow fools the dyno and makes it read higher than what it really is.....

Its not like Im tryin to sound cool by saying my car spun on the dyno, Id actually rather say nothing of the sort, and just let people keep thinking it made 258lb ft of torque.... :)

[jsimon9631]

Originally posted by InsaneCivicSedan
OK, Im going to explain this the way sam explained it to me... That run that made 258 torque was due to it spinning on the dyno, which caused the torque to jump... Here is why.... He told me when it starts to spin on the dyno, and then hooks again, that sudden jolt in torque somehow fools the dyno and makes it read higher than what it really is.....

Its not like Im tryin to sound cool by saying my car spun on the dyno, Id actually rather say nothing of the sort, and just let people keep thinking it made 258lb ft of torque.... :)

but its a honda so we know that if you made 276whp the chances of you making 258 are slim to none :):lol:

[MustangMosachi]

Originally posted by jsimon9633
but its a honda so we know that if you made 276whp the chances of you making 258 are slim to none :):lol: :lol:

[InsaneCivicCoupe]

Exactly... Which is where the logic of my previous statement comes into play....

[60-1EK]

Originally posted by Trip
Come on chris, lets run. Street tires. Roll or dig you call it.Go ahead and beat up on my lil onegle cam

[PoppaSmurf]

i swear to god i coined the word "onegle" cam...ill take my royalties please :D

[Jakethesnake]

yawn

[InsaneCivicCoupe]

Trip... Let me know if you really wanna set something up ;)

[MugenR]

that turbo has already proved itself to be a great turbo for big power high reving Honda motors.
I dont think a stock LS motor can use that turbo's potential, I would have stayed with the T3/To4B that he had originally...quick spool and good power.

something definately looks to be wrong in your setup...I would like to see the dyno chart. Ron is right to say you should be making that power with 10-12psi.

scott

[InsaneCivicCoupe]

As I said, the setup still needs a LOT more tuning.... And Im sure the turbo is the limiting factor... This is not an ordinary PT67 as Ive been trying to explain, it was custom built for another car, and we just threw it on mine to see what it would do.... This turbo doesnt even start to breathe til about 20psi, thus the lower than average numbers... The maps of this turbo are shitty because its not a good design and has horrible balance.... This will all be proven when the turbo is replaced....

[jsimon9631]

Originally posted by InsaneCivicSedan
As I said, the setup still needs a LOT more tuning.... And Im sure the turbo is the limiting factor... This is not an ordinary PT67 as Ive been trying to explain, it was custom built for another car, and we just threw it on mine to see what it would do.... This turbo doesnt even start to breathe til about 20psi, thus the lower than average numbers... The maps of this turbo are shitty because its not a good design and has horrible balance.... This will all be proven when the turbo is replaced....

the neverending project!!!!

Tuning didnt seem to be the major issue with that setup, it was more like lack of boost for a huge turbo.

[Cronic]

At anyrate. Congrats Chris on the numbers. Soon enough you will be in the 300whp club, and well on your way into the 11's with traction willing.

[InsaneCivicCoupe]

Well thank you Jeff... I think thats probably the first good thing youve said about my car lol.... :D

[jsimon9631]

Originally posted by InsaneCivicSedan
Well thank you Jeff... I think thats probably the first good thing youve said about my car lol.... :D

ok enough emo talk

your car is ugly and crappy chris :lol: :lol:

[Cronic]

Your turbo is still fucking retarded. Go back to a 50 trim.

[Alpha]

Originally posted by MugenR
that turbo has already proved itself to be a great turbo for big power high reving Honda motors.

Actually, I cant think of anyone off the top of my head with his turbine configuration.

[MugenR]

I willing to bet that we dont know the same people....

scott

[vertigo_16201]

Originally posted by InsaneCivicSedan
Air fuel looked really good... Being tuned on a stock map kinda sucks because it gets really fat at 10psi, then steadily leans back out to about 11.8-12:1 under full boost...

Keep in mind, this was on a shitty street tune... There will be more tuning to come, and we WILL get that 300hp sheet.... :)

Why are you saying that about my tune man, no tuner on earth can tune 17psi on a 10psi map sesnor chris. Part throttle is a different story, but we didnt spend that much time on it. I even chipped your ecu for free and htis is how you repay me man? ThAt IsH iS wHaCk y0

Looks like was right about you losing power on that turbo ;) Slap that t3/t4 on there and make more power :cool:

[vertigo_16201]

Also, the turbine section doesnt really affect a/f at all. When you bolted on that turbo, you went from 12:1 to below 10:1 which means that compressor side on your new turbo isnt flowing as much air (~20% less air). The turbine on that turbo (T70?) isnt any smaller than your t3/t4 and i made 290 on 15 lbs uncorrected on that same t3/t4 turbo. So its the compressor robbing you power not the turbine.

[60-1EK]

Originally posted by Alpha
with his turbine configuration.

Originally posted by MugenR
I willing to bet that we dont know the same people.

Not with that same configuration.

[InsaneCivicCoupe]

Blake, Not talking about the tune itself, just about the fact that its on the stock map.... That to me, is shitty... At 10 pounds it goes pig rich, and starts to lean back out at 12 all the way to 17/18... The tune itself is fine, other than that fart around 10psi where it goes 10:1, its fine, although I think we could use a little more timing ;)... Sorry about the misunderstanding... :)

[Cronic]

Tuning is not what you're lacking with your car right now. The car's a/f wasn't bad at all asside from the midrange going to 10:1.

[InsaneCivicCoupe]

Thus, my lacking of midrange power ;)

[Cronic]

Um.... No. You MIGHT pull another 10hp midrange but nothing interesting. The exhaust housing is too small for the compressor housing, and your turbo is too large for your engine to spool , that's all there is too it.

[InsaneCivicCoupe]

hater :(

[Cronic]

No, Im a realist. Don't mistake my logic for malice.

[vertigo_16201]

Originally posted by InsaneCivicSedan
Blake, Not talking about the tune itself, just about the fact that its on the stock map.... That to me, is shitty... At 10 pounds it goes pig rich, and starts to lean back out at 12 all the way to 17/18... The tune itself is fine, other than that fart around 10psi where it goes 10:1, its fine, although I think we could use a little more timing ;)... Sorry about the misunderstanding... :)

oic, sorry about that, thought you were being an ungrateful asshole :lol: when do I get my make-up secks?

[InsaneCivicCoupe]

call me ;)




:naughty:

[Cronic]

Fags.

[InsaneCivicCoupe]

Originally posted by Cronic
Fags.

dont hate cuz i took ur man :lol:

[Mike]

this thread is comical to me.