Looking to start out? Read Me!!

[JUG-LUDE]

Since there have been so many posts about which bike to start out on I figured I would just make this!

First there is the Kawasaki Ninja 500ex. Great begginer bike and you can find them for really cheap.

Then there is the Yamaha Fzr 600. Also a great begginer bike and cheap.

Next is the Suzuki Katana 600. I think this is the best bike to start out with. It's a little heavy but it has good power and you can find them for pretty cheap too.

There are a couple other bikes like the Suzuki SV 650, Honda CBR 600 f2's and f3's that make awesome starter bikes! You should look to spend around $3500 or less!!!! Before you buy a bike make sure you take the msf course! www.msf-usa.org (http://www.msf-usa.org) And make sure you have all of your gear! Helmet, gloves and jackets are the main things to have. Go to ebay or any other bike shop to buy all of this stuff!

Let me know if I missed anything.

*****EDIT******
Please do not ask which bike you should get! WE AREN'T MIND READERS!! SIMPLY GO AROUND AND SIT ON EACH BIKE YOU ARE INTERESTED IN, THEN DECIDE.

Also it's not the best idea to get something brand new for your first bike! I alway's recommend spending around $3k for your first bike. If you have any questions please PM me i'll be more then happy to help you out!

[MattC]

if u want to start the right right way get a ninja 250, those bikes are bullet proof, we've droped my friends maybe 50 times and it just keeps putting. as far as best 600 to start with, if u want something cheap to fix if u drop it get the fzr600 or an f-series honda. if u want a 600 that will last you from beginner to a few years after learning get a gsx-r 6 but they aren't cheap to fix after being dropped.

[moldyhands]

isn't anyone going to recommend a hayabusa? jfwy

but i wouldn't warn against a new 600, i learned on mine and so far i'm still alive.

[JUG-LUDE]

if you have the money to start out on a new 600 and can afford to fix it when you drop it, then go for it. This is for all the people that don't feel like giving out all that money.

[Gsxr Girl]

I've dropped my gixxer roughly 8 times now - 5'4" w/ 29" inseem - it's gonna happen if you're short. I bought frame sliders before the bike and they more than paid off. The worst damage I suffered was a cracked windshield (my head did that though) and scraped mirrors, light spots on the exhaust can and case cover. So, the 6 can be just as tough as the 250 - I'm proof

[Gsxr Girl]

Oh and if you ignore all common sense and suggestions in this thread and buy a 2004 R1 and crash it shortly there after - send me a pm, I'll buy it

[SSpiro]

How about some things to look for when looking at used bikes? Proof of too many drops, damage, average and above average mileage on a bike, etc...

[HaveAnotherBrew]

Originally posted by Gsxr Girl
Oh and if you ignore all common sense and suggestions in this thread and buy a 2004 R1 and crash it shortly there after - send me a pm, I'll buy it

I have a friend who's supposedly getting an '04 R1 this Monday. He's a complete idiot when it comes to life, let alone bikes. I'm sure I'll be sending you a PM on his part very shortly......

[letsrollagn]

and from experience...Tips on buying used bikes:

Inspect the bikes thoroughly, or have someone that knows bikes go with you (and not know of them, but actual experience working on them for a living). Preferably one familiar with that particular bike/make/etc.

HAVE HIM RIDE IT...not for 5 minutes, have him go on at least a 10-15min ride if they will let him. It is easy to get a bike to idle okay for a few minutes, but after the bike is really warmed up it will reveal a great deal if there are problems with it (engine/tranny/suspension/etc).

If they really want to sell it, they will let you (but please make sure it is an EXPERIENCED rider, you don't want to have to pay for a totalled bike if they are loopy).

I can not stress this next point enough...CHECK THE #'S yourself online. Make sure that the frame and engine match each other and the title. If they don't match each other it is not terrible, just lets you know that it has been swapped out for some reason.

If they are different from each other, make sure to check the #'s online individually. I have a friend whom lost a bike to the police impound because the engine was stolen, and just not reporting it (even not knowingly) is accepting stolen merchandise because the police will say you should have checked. A real good deal gets ten times worse when shit happens...and you know what they say...

If they match and they match the title, your all good.

IF THE FRAME VIN# DOES NOT MATCH THE TITLE DO NOT BUY IT. It will not be worth the trouble. Do not buy anything that the person says, "it has a title, I just don't have it...all you have to do is...etc, etc, etc. Sometimes a deal can be made for a really good price, but it is rare that it doesn't have ANY snag or it wouldn't be that cheap, I don't care what they tell you...be smart, don't be a retard.

It is easy to get caught up in someones bullshit story while looking at something you really want...and sometimes the pretttttty paint and ssshhhiiinnny stuff makes you go ooooooh, but use reason. You don't know how many friends I have that in the past squiddage days bought the 1st bike they looked at...bad idea, no matter how much he tells you the deal won't be there in a little while, more often than not, it will be.

As for the mechanics, leave it to someone that knows better as stated above...but for a general check:

ASK THEM ABOUT ANY PROBLEMS
Check the fluids obviously
See if there are any areas that are leaking fluids, have large deposits, etc.

Look for broken pieces, clips, tape (holding stuff together, like wonder duct tape), pieces of wire/zipties/string even are usually the signs of a lost bolt/nut/screw (no biggie), but the tab/mounts could be broken off and not easily repaired (pain in the ass).

Listen for tapping, knocking, irregular noises, etc...if you here them find out what they are if you can.

See if it overheats, stalls, smokes, all the obvious things...also keep in mind most bikes do sound and run rougher when cold, but if it does have it checked first.

Look for any scrapes, grinds, etc...on metal or plastic. Look for multiple replaced parts (sign of a crash). Not that a crashed bike is no good, it is just better to be aware of it as you will scrutinize the bike more if you think it has been wrecked.

Just ask lots of questions and look for the "to good to be true" type deals and think clearly about your purchase, do your own research...you will learn a lot.

[KrazyInKamo]

and bikes under the class of "sport bikes" are nimble through the corners.. :tard:

Busa = "Sport Touring"

[B16aTeggy]

up above this guy +1 about the bike warming up..

my ninja runs like shit(doesnt wanna go passed 5-6k) untill about 10-15 of runinng

[Frankie]

Originally posted by B16aTeggy
up above this guy +1 about the bike warming up..

my ninja runs like shit(doesnt wanna go passed 5-6k) untill about 10-15 of runinng

+1

My bike hits a real mean lean spot between 4-5k when it's cold. If I try to rev it higher than 4k cold, it sounds broken. After about 10-15 minute I can slam it to 11k no problem.

[user0ne]

Originally posted by DogBoneR1
The slower your first bike, the faster you'll be.

Sounds contradictory, but allow me to explain. If your first bike is one of the faster ones on the market (which currently would mean about any 750cc sportbike or larger), you will rarely be forced to push yourself to get much performance out of the bike. With that much power on tap, you can simply twist the throttle and away you go. Getting a bike to accelerate is about the easiest thing you can do. Braking, shifting, and cornering require more skill, more knowledge, and a lot more practice.

When the inexperienced rider on a big bike goes riding with friends on a twisty back road or even on a racetrack, he will find himself struggling to keep up. Usually, he will rely on the bike's power. He's going fast, but he is using a tiny fraction of the bike's performance and he can be a very lazy rider. Not good.

Starting on a small bike forces the rider to extract all the performance out of the bike. To do this, a rider must become skilled. Plus, starting small decreases your margin for error. The first rider will be going far faster on the straights with his more powerful bike. But at the end of that straight is a corner waiting. Some serious braking and a quick transition to hard cornering is required. Just a slight miscalculation can mean an accident and at these speeds accidents are more likely to be serious ones.

So from here on out, I'm not going to respond to threads asking "What size bike should I start on?" or any other variance of the question. Start Small!!

good advice!

[Cliff]

http://projectboil.pixel10.co.uk/posting/Posting.html

Thank you, have a nice day!

[hofersf49]

So i should forget about the cbr600 f4i then????????????????

[dsmturbo]

Originally posted by hofersf49
So i should forget about the cbr600 f4i then????????????????

yes, and start thinking about the 1000rr haha

for real man just get the 1000, my r1 was my first bike, greg(jdm driven)' sbike was his 01 r1, my bros first was a 929.. after like 2 months your going to hate a 600, 1000cc's so much more torque, and so much easier to pull up, with out clutching it :)

trying to get the most miles out of my tranny haha

:beer:

[Saturntuner05]

what year should you be looking for and mileage???

[JUG-LUDE]

depends on the bike... How much are you lookin to spend

[TNathe]

Originally posted by dsmturbo
yes, and start thinking about the 1000rr haha

for real man just get the 1000, my r1 was my first bike, greg(jdm driven)' sbike was his 01 r1, my bros first was a 929.. after like 2 months your going to hate a 600, 1000cc's so much more torque, and so much easier to pull up, with out clutching it :)

trying to get the most miles out of my tranny haha

:beer:

Why would he hate a 600 after a few months? :roll: I've had a 600 for a year and a half and just bought another one. So what you can;t wheelie in 5th gear, learn to ride a damn bike and start from 2nd (I don;t get my jollies riding a wheelie out past 80mph anyways, i get more like shit stains in my pants. :lol:). dsmtrubo, let's go on a nice Sunday ride out here in the twisties one day, see how well the big liter bikes hold their own. ;)

[Saturntuner05]

Originally posted by JUG-LUDE
depends on the bike... How much are you lookin to spend

im looking to spend about 3000 or less. im deff. going with a 600 also.

[hofersf49]

your the second guy to tell me that he tried to sell me is tl1000 and i dont doubt i will grow bored with the 600 but i would rather spend the money and learn how to ride good then if i feel like it move up to the liter bike or something but not until then thanx for the advise though.

Originally posted by dsmturbo
yes, and start thinking about the 1000rr haha

for real man just get the 1000, my r1 was my first bike, greg(jdm driven)' sbike was his 01 r1, my bros first was a 929.. after like 2 months your going to hate a 600, 1000cc's so much more torque, and so much easier to pull up, with out clutching it :)

trying to get the most miles out of my tranny haha

:beer:

[JUG-LUDE]

Please read the first page.... I added a little more to it!

[- civic TypeR B16b-]

come on now i know that not everyone in here started with a 600 or a fuckin 250 for god sakes, that would be no fun. When i first started out i had a 1997 cbr 1100xx good old honda blackbird i figured i would scare the shit out of myself by driving it really fast at first that way i would be cautious and careful on learning how the bike works and rides that way i would take it easy till i really knew how to manouver and function the bike properly. Since then i havnt purchased anything under a 1000 and iv'e road plenty of 600 and 750s but there just not a 1000 so if your looking to die fast or really scare the shit out of yourself to wear you now your going to take it easy then get a big bike but if your too scared or dont want to ruin a pretty bike then youd better stick with a 600 or 250 of some sort i would like to add that i rode my friends honda f4 and it was really quick and he thaught it was a great bike to start with so just keep that in mind see ya

[- civic TypeR B16b-]

well im just the crazy ass stupid kind of person that gets himself hurt alot until i finally realize what the hell im getting me self into but if your not that type of person believe me youd better stick with a smaller bike i learned alot when dealing with bigger bikes after all im only 6"0 and weigh like 170lbs but i now know alot b/c my first bike was a big one. the main reason i got a big bike as my first bike is b/c i got it dirt cheap and b/c everyone told me id either end up dead or seriously hurt by starting off that big but i proved them wrong im still living and never dumped hardcore but dont be fooled i have dumped it before everyone has and will eventually so the choice is yours

[- civic TypeR B16b-]

good choices of begginer bikes are honda f4i, cbr 600rr if you want alot of power from a begginer bike,ninja 250,ninja 500,katana 600,gixxer 600 if your risky and willing to spend a little $,there are fast ass 600 such as the r6 you just have to really test drive and sit on them to see what bike best suites you and who you are so good luck to all begginers and im really fucked up right now so im gonna go to sleep im out like a fat kid in dodge ball peeeeeaaaaacccceeee!! :naughty: :naughty:

[GPcrew]

i agree, you will most likely get bored of a 600 or smaller, i started out on a 600 and the second i started wanting to ride wheelies i hated it. for one if you a big guy like me , you aint gonna pull up going any faster than 30-40 mph... so your all up in the parking lots learning slow wheelies (alot harder) to start out with.. if i was on a r1 i would be pullen em up on the interstate and shit.. and the faster you going the easyer it is to keep up (like more give, if you will) the slower your going teh more twitchy it is.. but then again, i think learning wheeleis in 1st gear is better, cause your accedents are more like skatebording accedents and not desasters like 80 mph loop on 275 LMFAO

[Cronic]

Don't get me wrong. My new 600 is already getting slower everytime I ride it. but I love that little fucker. Then again, wheelies, and stunts just don't interest me. I love to ride, and that's all I do with it. It moves, as fast, or just faster then my Z, and I've missed that oh so much.

[Ninja_Turbo_Lover]

what happens if yr starting out for the forst time and u die?

[JUG-LUDE]

then u die.... good times

[Puto]

When explaning bike tech to newbies, try to state what things mean Explain what the acronyms stand for. What it is and why you need it. Also, tell newbies what riding gear they might need, what it is, why they need it, what you prefer and why. What aftermarket safety mods you do and why, and tips for newbs, what things to do and what not to do.
Ride safe

[Cecil]

ATGATT (All The Gear All The Time)
* Helmet: A Proper fit is critical... aka: very tightly
* Gloves: Try going through a day without using your hands.... Reinforced gloved (Racing Style) are great for street and track riding.
* Boots: At a minimum something to cover your ankle.... and leather is your friend.
* Jacket: Mess is better than nothing, textile is better than mess, leather is supior to textile.... padded / reinforced gear is best.
* Pants: Jeans are better than nothing, dragging jeans are better than street jeans, then textile, then leather.... padded / reinforced racing gear is best.
** A 1 peice suit is safer than a 2 peice suit **

If you can not afford gear, you can not afford to ride.
If it is too hot to wear gear, it is too hot to ride.

Do not ride until you are legal (Endorsement).

If you ride, you crash.... no exceptions.
Dress for the Crash, Not for the Ride.

Insurance does not seem so expensive when you are laid-up in the hospital with a totalled bike and tens-of-thousands (if not more) of dollars in accident related expenses.

Ride within your limits.
Keep your ego in check.
Have fun.... but Safety is Paramount!
Do not try to keep up with the seasoned track veterans... it will be painful.
Do not try to keep up with the seasoned stunters... it will be expensive.

Wear Gear.
Have an Endorsement.
Have Insurance.
Ride within YOUR limits.

[Puto]

If you can not afford gear, you can not afford to ride.
If it is too hot to wear gear, it is too hot to ride.



Thats a good statement.

[C4_crusin]

things you need to read before you turn the key(i'll add more if i think of any, feel free to make you own suggestions)

1.dont get a bike if you think you will look cool on it
2.dont get a bike if you think your invincable(spelling?)
3.be prepared to crash its going to happen
4.wear a gear it will save you life (most likley)
5.if you cant multi task dont get a bike
6.riding a motorcycle is work your going to get tired and sore
7.ride within your limits
8.there is nothing wrong with going the speed limit(or 5 over)
9.GET YOUR FREAKIN ENDORSEMENT(its not that hard, and you will learn somthing that will save your life)
10. get a bike that you are comfortable with/on
11.hiting cars hurts so dont follow too close.
12. cops are going to fuck with you!
13.make sure passengers have proper gear on too
14. dont drive like an asshole with a passenger(your responsible for their life)
15.riding with out a helmet on is the DUMBEST THING IN THE WORLD (especially when its hooked to your bike)
16. NEVER DRINK AND RIDE(i will pick you and you bike up and drive you home if needed, cause i hate rider down threads especially when it can be avoided)
17.you only get one life DONT FUCK IT UP
18.Road rash is not cool
19.patterson rd is not a race track
20.RIDE SAFE USE GOOD JUDGEMENT

[buck19]

So what does it take to ride legal?

[Cecil]

So what does it take to ride legal?
An endorsement, which I believe requires the rider the pass the MSF course :)

Nothing difficult, but it is necessary.

[00eclipseGT]

An endorsement, which I believe requires the rider the pass the MSF course :)

Nothing difficult, but it is necessary.

Exactly what you need. Tryin to get into those classes is probly harder then passing the actual class itself!

[burgy240]

Thanks for the info all!

[Cecil]

Thanks for the info all!
No worries Burgy.... that's why we get the big bucks. ;)

[saccay]

ok im looking into gettin a bike but i definately want to take the course first... any suggestions on places to take it and numbers to call.
any suggestions are appreciated
thanks

[saccay]

pm me cuz i cant always check the threads

[Cecil]

Florida State Laws (http://home.ama-cycle.org/amaccess/laws/result.asp?state=fl)


http://home.ama-cycle.org/amaccess/laws/result.asp?state=fl

Road
.
Safety Helmet 316.211 Equipment for motorcycle and moped riders.-- (http://www.leg.state.fl.us/Statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&Search_String=&URL=Ch0316/SEC211.HTM&Title=-%3E2005-%3ECh0316-%3ESection%20211#0316.211) - Not required over 21 with a minimum of $10,000 in medical insurance
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State Funded Rider Ed - Available for all eligible applicants-required under age 21 education
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Eye Protection - Required by law
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Daytime Use of Headlight - Required by law-modulating headlight permitted
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Passenger Seat - Required if carrying a passenger
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Passenger Footrest - Required if carrying a passenger
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Passenger Age Restriction - None Helmet Speakers No Restrictions
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Periodic Safety Inspection - None
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Mirror Left(L) Right(R) - One required by law
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Radar Detector - No Restriction
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Turn Signals - Not required.
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Muffler - No person shall modify the exhaust system in such a manner that the noise emitted is above that emitted by the vehicle as originally manufactured.
No person shall operate a vehicle with an exhaust system so modified. .
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Maximum Sound Level - Maximum allowable A-weighted sound levels based on measurements taken at a distance of 50 feet from center line of travel (Sec. 316.293):
1) Manufactured before 1/1/79--82dBA (35mph or less); 86dBA (over 35mph)
2)Manufactured after 1/1/79--78dBA(35mph or less); 82dBA(over 35mph).
.
State Insurance Requirements - FINANCIAL RESPONSIBILITY LAW-IT DOES APPLY TO MOTORCYCLES!
Florida's No-Fault, or "PIP Law" does not apply to motorcycles.
HOWEVER, the Financial Responsibility FR Law applies to ALL motor vehicles in Florida, including motorcycles.
Thus the voluntary purchase of motor vehicle liability insurance by an owner, operator or owner/ operator is highly recommended.
.
Failure to carry property damage and bodily injury liability insurance in case of a crash, DUI conviction or other occurrences outlined in Florida's FR Law, Ch. 324, may result in some or all of the following:
Loss of license/tag and registration, and/or restitution or civil court judgment, and future proof (three years) of high risk, SR22 mandatory liability insurance coverage just to keep your driver license - even if you do not own any motor vehicles.
Source: Florida Motorcycle Handbook 2006
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Handlebar Height - No higher than top of shoulders of the operator when seated upon the motorcycle.
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Rider-Education Waiver - Skill & Knowledge Test
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Accept Motorcycle Endorsement From Other States - Yes
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Accept RiderEd Completion Card From Other States - N/A
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Motorcycles operating two abreast in same lane - Yes. 316.209 (http://www.flsenate.gov/Statutes/index.cfm?mode=View%20Statutes&SubMenu=1&App_mode=Display_Statute&Search_String=&URL=CH0316/Sec209.HTM) - Operating motorcycles on roadways laned for traffic.-- (1) All motorcycles are entitled to full use of a lane and no motor vehicle shall be driven in such manner as to deprive any motorcycle of the full use of a lane. This subsection shall not apply to motorcycles operated two abreast in a single lane.
.
Lane Splitting 316.209 Operating motorcycles on roadways laned for traffic (http://www.flsenate.gov/Statutes/index.cfm?mode=View%20Statutes&SubMenu=1&App_mode=Display_Statute&Search_String=&URL=CH0316/Sec209.HTM) (2) - The operator of a motorcycle shall not overtake and pass in the same lane occupied by the vehicle being overtaken. (3) No person shall operate a motorcycle between lanes of traffic or between adjacent lines or rows of vehicles.
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Off Road
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Safety Helmet - Required if under age 16 and ATV's only
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Eye Protection - Required if under age 16 and ATV's only
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Minimum Operator Age - No Restriction
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Rider Education Certification - Not Required
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Operator License - Not Required
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Headlight - Not Required
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Taillight - Not Required
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Muffler - Not Required
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Maximum Sound Level - No Limit
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Spark Arrestor - Not Required
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Registration - Required by law
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Vehicle Title - Required
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Trails Program - Available

[Cecil]

ok im looking into gettin a bike but i definately want to take the course first... any suggestions on places to take it and numbers to call.
any suggestions are appreciated
thanks

Here are some links to threads that may assist you in finding a MSF course:

Link 1 (http://www.tamparacing.com/forums/bike-tech/310520-best-msf-course-area.html?highlight=MSF)

Link 2 (http://www.tamparacing.com/forums/bike-tech/304170-armwood-msf-course.html?highlight=MSF)

This has come up before, thus a search on "MSF Course" may be enough to get you going.

Good Luck.

Ride Safe.

ATGATT

[OuttaFokus]

Wow, really good info guys. I'm very picky when it comes to things, and while starting out on a smaller bike might be smarter...I felt quite confortable on my budies '06 GSXR 600 (he's insane for letting a first timer ride it!). Obviously, im not gonna slap down 9K on my first bike, but i've been looking @ 2001-newer bikes. I think i have it narrowed down to either a YZF-R6 or GSXR 600.

My main concern is that im quite short (5'5") and i have a feeling i may drop the bike at low speeds...

[Cecil]

Wow, really good info guys. I'm very picky when it comes to things, and while starting out on a smaller bike might be smarter...I felt quite confortable on my budies '06 GSXR 600 (he's insane for letting a first timer ride it!). Obviously, im not gonna slap down 9K on my first bike, but i've been looking @ 2001-newer bikes. I think i have it narrowed down to either a YZF-R6 or GSXR 600.

My main concern is that im quite short (5'5") and i have a feeling i may drop the bike at low speeds...

At 5'5", I do not see you "needing" to lower the bike.
Look at these guys, no one has ever acussed any of them of being "big". :lol:



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Max Biaggi (http://www.max-biaggi.com/)

Date of birth : June 26, 1971
Nationality : Italy
Height : 170cm
Weight : 64kg

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Nicky Hayden (http://www.nickyhayden.com/)

Date of birth : July 30, 1981
Nationality : U.S.A.
Height : 173cm
Weight : 68kg http://world.honda.com/WGP/img/spacer.gif http://world.honda.com/WGP/img/spacer.gif http://world.honda.com/WGP/img/spacer.gif

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Sete Gibernau (http://www.setegibernau.com/)

Date of birth : December 15, 1972
Nationality : Spain
Height : 177cm
Weight : 70kg

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Marco Melandri (http://www.marcomelandri.it/)

Date of birth : August 7, 1982
Nationality : Italy
Height : 168cm
Weight : 58kg http://world.honda.com/WGP/img/spacer.gif http://world.honda.com/WGP/img/spacer.gif http://world.honda.com/WGP/img/spacer.gif

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Alex Barros (http://www.alexbarros1.com.br/)

Date of birth : October 18, 1970
Nationality : Brazil
Height : 174cm
Weight : 68kg

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Troy Bayliss

Date of birth : March 30, 1969
Nationality : Australia
Height : 174cm
Weight : 68kg http://world.honda.com/WGP/img/spacer.gif http://world.honda.com/WGP/img/spacer.gif http://world.honda.com/WGP/img/spacer.gif

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Makoto Tamada (http://www.tamayan.jp/)

Date of birth : November 4, 1976
Nationality : Japan
Height : 171cm
Weight : 61kg http://world.honda.com/WGP/img/spacer.gif http://world.honda.com/WGP/img/spacer.gif http://world.honda.com/WGP/img/spacer.gif 250cc Class Riders http://world.honda.com/WGP/img/spacer.gif http://world.honda.com/WGP/img/line_l.gif http://world.honda.com/WGP/img/spacer.gif
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Daniel Pedrosa (http://www.danielpedrosa.com/)

Date of birth : September 29, 1985
Nationality : Spain
Height : 158cm
Weight : 43kg

http://world.honda.com/WGP/member/image/2005/aoyama_2005.jpg #73
Hiroshi Aoyama (http://www.hiro-aoyama.com/)

Date of birth : October 25, 1981
Nationality : Japan
Height : 165cm
Weight : 54kg http://world.honda.com/WGP/img/spacer.gif http://world.honda.com/WGP/img/spacer.gif http://world.honda.com/WGP/img/spacer.gif Team Scot http://world.honda.com/WGP/img/spacer.gif http://world.honda.com/WGP/img/spacer.gif http://world.honda.com/WGP/img/spacer.gif

http://world.honda.com/WGP/member/image/2005/dovizioso_2005.jpg #34
Andrea Dovizioso (http://www.andreadovizioso.com/)

Date of birth : March 23, 1986
Nationality : Italy
Height : 162cm
Weight : 56kg

http://world.honda.com/WGP/member/image/2005/takahashi_2005.jpg #55
Yuki Takahashi

Date of birth : July 12, 1984
Nationality : Japan
Height : 163cm
Weight : 53kg http://world.honda.com/WGP/img/spacer.gif http://world.honda.com/WGP/img/spacer.gif http://world.honda.com/WGP/img/spacer.gif

Team Fortuna Honda http://world.honda.com/WGP/img/spacer.gif http://world.honda.com/WGP/img/spacer.gif http://world.honda.com/WGP/img/spacer.gif

http://world.honda.com/WGP/member/image/2005/lorenzo_2005.jpg #48
Jorge Lorenzo (http://www.lorenzo48.com/)

Date of birth : May 4, 1987
Nationality : Spain
Height : 169cm
Weight : 54kg

http://world.honda.com/WGP/member/image/2005/barbera_2005.jpg #55
Hector Barbera (http://www.hectorbarbera.com/)

Date of birth : November 2, 1986
Nationality : Spain
Height : 168cm
Weight : 55kg

[???]

good link that was posted about buying your first used bike..


http://www.clarity.net/~adam/buying-bike.html

[me]

Good info. Found everything to answer my questions that were in my head. Thank you!

[hixeclipse]

I'm looking to start riding sport bikes....i grew up in kansas riding dirt bikes etc...but it is probably a lot different. I also know someone who has been riding bikes forever down here to help me with a purchase of a good starter bike. Just a few questions though. How much is your motorcycle insurance? Im 21, never been in an accident ever. I only have a few little tickets on my record in a car...like tag lights being out, and not paying for 1 ticket until my license got suspended...then i had to. Other than that, those are the only tickets i have. Also, where is a good place to look for used bikes around here in the tampa bay area?

Look forward to start riding around in September/October.

[ChadillacS13]

hey guys im new to this site but im wondering if u can help me anyway.......om looking for anyone who has a bike to sell. Any sport bike will do. Im looking to get one as fast a possible so if anyone can help out id really appreciate it.

[Capt Web]

this is a good guide for anyone looking into getting a bike

Used Motorcycle Evaluation Guide (http://www.clarity.net/~adam/buying-bike.html)

[Boostin97SE-R]

I found this site very informative for newbies like myself as well.
Motorcycle Riding Techniques (http://www.datacraftsystems.co.uk/techniques/techniques_left/index.html)