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Redlinegvr4
04-25-2004, 01:41 AM
Well after about 10 hrs (way to long) its finally done. the 14b is on his car. Brian thanks for the help!!! You are the man!

flubyux2
04-25-2004, 01:48 AM
you seriously put 10 hours into a 14b install? is that on a GVR4?

gimme some details dawg.

Redlinegvr4
04-25-2004, 09:18 AM
no it was on a 2g. it was just a total pain in the ass.

flubyux2
04-25-2004, 11:33 AM
damn dude, you shoulda called me. i woulda had it done lickety splits.

course, knowing me, i probably woulda taken just as long, cuz i woulda been like "hey, lets port out the manifold, and the WG and the turbine housing and the O2 housing" cuz thats what i did the last time i took the turbo off My 1G. i think my WG is like 4mm bigger, my 6cm turbine housing is like a 6.5 or 7cm now, and my Evo3 O2 pretty hogged out, especially the WG runner.

FiLjAr4LiFe
04-25-2004, 12:41 PM
Well hey we can still do that! lol. Yeah but thank you matt rj alex and brian. everything is running fine so far. no leaks. just confused a little. i try turning the boost up a little because originally we had it all the way down. it wont really boost above 5 and im scared to turn it too far. rj said somthing about the ecu calibrating. would this affect this?

Thanks

edit: and i thank gabe the most for letting me use his dremel

_Chris_
04-25-2004, 01:15 PM
Originally posted by FiLjAr4LiFe
Well hey we can still do that! lol. Yeah but thank you matt rj alex and brian. everything is running fine so far. no leaks. just confused a little. i try turning the boost up a little because originally we had it all the way down. it wont really boost above 5 and im scared to turn it too far. rj said somthing about the ecu calibrating. would this affect this?

Thanks

weird, my 16g was boosting 20 psi a few mins after install... i derno

Ender.
04-25-2004, 01:22 PM
Make sure all the vacuum lines are secured and not pinched anywhere or something. Other than that I dont know. Congrats and your welcome. Sorry I couldnt have been there to see it in the end. BTW you owe me a drive so I can feel it for myself.

Now on to a fuel pump, intercooler, and get some tuning! The modding will never end.

Mr 2
04-25-2004, 01:46 PM
Originally posted by flubyux2
my 6cm turbine housing is like a 6.5 or 7cm now

Once again you prove you don't know as much as you think

_Chris_
04-25-2004, 02:17 PM
i was gonna say, lol best of luck making a 6cm housing a 7cm one.

Redlinegvr4
04-25-2004, 04:03 PM
Hey the ecu will recalibrate Fuel Maps that is what i ment aaron sorry for not being clear. Turn up the boost some more and see what happens. Dont boost too high til you get the new O2 sencer so that you wont lean out your engine. Just be careful with the MBC and never screw it in all the way.

97gstblack
04-25-2004, 05:23 PM
how does it run? u feel the difference?

REDchirp
04-25-2004, 06:35 PM
Thanks for mentioning my name ass... lol... J/K... don't blow it up now aaron... don't wanna make those 3 days of work a waste ya know!!!

gabe
04-25-2004, 11:34 PM
after fixing the wastegate flapper thing, i took it for a spin today.. its pretty quick.

REDchirp
04-26-2004, 04:27 PM
so gabe... his boost spike prob is fixed now??? if soo.... good job... ur a handyman my friend

FiLjAr4LiFe
04-26-2004, 05:35 PM
lol all we did was go and grab a pin pop the wastegate thingy ove the flapper bar and put the pin in. the problem with the boosting was that the flapper was off he wastegate there for whenever any pressure was created , the flapper would flip right open thus, releasing all pressure. No turbo spool. All fixed HUGE DIFFERENCE. holy shit cant wait to get some fuel upgrades.

gabe
04-26-2004, 10:11 PM
Originally posted by FiLjAr4LiFe
lol all we did was go and grab a pin pop the wastegate thingy ove the flapper bar and put the pin in. the problem with the boosting was that the flapper was off he wastegate there for whenever any pressure was created , the flapper would flip right open thus, releasing all pressure. No turbo spool. All fixed HUGE DIFFERENCE. holy shit cant wait to get some fuel upgrades.

no i swear theres so much more to what i had to fix man.. complete understatement

Redlinegvr4
04-26-2004, 10:27 PM
well if i was not so tired on saturday night it all would have been done then but i was half asleep.

FiLjAr4LiFe
04-26-2004, 10:43 PM
excuses... pussy. j/k lol thanks a lot rj, RJ FUCKING WORKED ON MY CAR WHILE I WAS AT WORK. Whata badass.

Redlinegvr4
04-26-2004, 10:45 PM
badass thats me!!! i did 80 percent of the work.

flubyux2
04-27-2004, 09:52 PM
Originally posted by Mr 2
Once again you prove you don't know as much as you think

and once again, you prove that you dont know as much about me as you think you do.

IIRC, you werent there when i spent 3 hours porting my turbine housing and Evo3 O2.

I took my carbide burr w/ a 6" shank all the way down into the throat of the turbine housing and i also opend up the turbine discharge scroll, both the width and the length, so the area that the turbine scroll is exposing the turbine wheel to is about 1-2mm wider throughout the length of the scroll, and i extended the length of the scroll approximately 4-5mm, as well as making it deeper so it could extend the depth of the scroll around the taper of the housing... :nerd:

next time you feel like calling someone out, get all the facts. ;)

btw, hows your car doin? has the warm weather affected it yet?;)

Mr 2
04-28-2004, 01:24 AM
My car is maxing out the tiny 750cc injectors in this weather on pump gas, how’s yours.

BTW, I am glad to hear you ruined the aerodynamics of your turbine housing by adding undo turbulence which in fact will make the flow stream smaller.

Tom N
04-28-2004, 02:07 AM
Originally posted by Mr 2
My car is maxing out the tiny 750cc injectors in this weather on pump gas, how’s yours.

BTW, I am glad to hear you ruined the aerodynamics of your turbine housing by adding undo turbulence which in fact will make the flow stream smaller.


You know no one is going to listen to a slow ass fwd owner. If you had a clue you would own like a 11 sec car or something unlike all these fast cars around here.:ban:

flubyux2
04-28-2004, 09:17 AM
thats good to hear your car is doin well. kelly's car is maxing out the 14b and running 20psi on 93 octane everyday... someday we will buy her a bigger turbo.


ruin the aerodynamics? i fail to see how removing casting flash and the rough sand cast finish as well as allowing the exhaust gas to be introduced to the turbine wheel about 4mm sooner is ruining it. i smoothed out the casting flash on as much of the scroll as i could. in doing this, it widened the area about 1-2mm. i made it a little deeper towards the end of the scroll so i could extend the area further around the wheel... effectivly increasing the Area while the Radius was only increase a hair since all i did was remove the casting flash and finish.... but i guess if that rough cast finish is necessary on the turbine housings, ill take it off and acid etch it. next time i do acid porting instead of using a carbide burr. i guess that means i should put the cast finish back on my intake manifolds and head ports right? :?

oh btw, PTE has 880's for dirt cheap. thats who im getting my supra injectors from ;)

MitsuBucci
04-28-2004, 09:42 AM
I don't care how you ported your 6cm housing. It's still a 6cm Housing. You can't port it to a 7cm, or a 6.5... :roll:

I spent 3 hours porting the stock 450cc injectors on the Laser so we could run 11's on them. :nerd:

_Chris_
04-28-2004, 11:54 AM
Originally posted by MitsuBucci

I spent 3 hours porting the stock 450cc injectors on the Laser so we could run 11's on them. :nerd:

:lmao: :lol: :lmao:

flubyux2
04-28-2004, 08:50 PM
really? thats really unusual. i wonder why my full boost comes like 200 rpm later and the exhaust note has a little more bass in it than before this work and the car doesnt fall on its face over 6000... guess all the porting i did had no effect on the car but these driveability characteristics must have come out of no where.

PoppaSmurf
04-28-2004, 08:54 PM
Originally posted by Mr 2
My car is maxing out the tiny 750cc injectors in this weather on pump gas, how’s yours.

BTW, I am glad to hear you ruined the aerodynamics of your turbine housing by adding undo turbulence which in fact will make the flow stream smaller.


how much for your puny little 750's?? :D

Tom N
04-28-2004, 09:03 PM
Flubyux2 (not) for some one who loves to give such rediculous technical answers to such stupid questions alot you realy make my wonder if you know half of what you think you know.

Mr 2
04-28-2004, 09:03 PM
Originally posted by flubyux2
really? thats really unusual. i wonder why my full boost comes like 200 rpm later

Originally posted by Mr 2
...I am glad to hear you ruined the aerodynamics of your turbine housing by adding undo turbulence which in fact will make the flow stream smaller.

Sound could very possibly change and the power holding longer is all in your head. If you expect it to work better, you will think it does. A little porting, even going with a 7cm housing would not make much of a noticeable difference.


BTW opening the throat like that only makes the exhaust come into the turbine sooner which will cause it to hit the blades at a bad angle.

The reason nobody ports turbine housings is because they are not designed to be ported. By opening the throat, you are angling the gases wrong. Don't you think if it were that easy, everyone else would be doing it too?

PoppaSmurf
04-28-2004, 09:09 PM
fuck, no 750's :(

MitsuBucci
04-28-2004, 11:01 PM
Sounds to me like your turbine housing transformation technique made you car loud and laggy. Good job. :dunno:

psifactor
04-29-2004, 11:22 AM
Originally posted by Mr 2
Sound could very possibly change and the power holding longer is all in your head.


I'm going to have to agree with this one. I drive the car every day and have not noticed any differences in the performance what-so-ever. It still drops off in the high rpm's. The only sound difference I have actually noticed is when we leaned it out.





Sean, what are those 750s going to supply fuel for?

PoppaSmurf
04-29-2004, 12:19 PM
a 14B :D