Sunriders AutoX 4/11

[4wdFury]

Just wondering who is going since its easter sunday and all? I'll be there ready to run.

[perdition79]

i'll be there, and with new brakes. maybe this time there will be a slalom somewhere on the course.

[4wdFury]

we can only hope. ;)

[SlowerThanYou]

Where is it going to be at. Im thinking about starting to autocross. I live in town and country. If someone can give me directions or they are willing to let me follow them there I would appreciate it. Thanks

[Chin]

take Memorial, to 275 south, onto the howard franklin bridge, take that across go though St pete till 22nd AVe? I think its after the big bend past downtown st pete, then get off make a right, till you hit 19 then make a left, look for a big blue buidling on your left that says SPC allstate

[Charles]

Do we have a course layout posted up anywhere yet?? Loren ?

[Loren]

Originally posted by perdition79
i'll be there, and with new brakes. maybe this time there will be a slalom somewhere on the course.

What's a slalom got to do with brakes? :)

Okay, here's the deal... we can't please everyone all the time. People complain where there are slaloms in every course. People complain when there isn't a slalom in the course. People complain when the course is too slow... then complain that the faster cars have an advantage when the course is faster. It's a no-win situation for a course designer... especially on a tiny little site like SPC.

What am I saying? Quit bitching and just make the most of the challenge that is presented to you! OR... join the club and volunteer to be an event chairman, then YOU can design a course.

(all that being said, I've not even seen a course draft for this event yet, so I can't give you any hints on what it will be like this time)

[SlowerThanYou]

I come out there.

[4wdFury]

oh well I'll have fun either way and I think I'll actually sign up for sunriders this time. I've only been out 5-6 times before and not signed up. :-|

[S1M0N]

I will be there. My wife is "NOT HAPPY ABOUT THAT", because I will not be at her sister's house, with the rest of the extended family, celebrating the day. (Which has always seemed ridiculous to me since none of them are Christian.) Quite frankly I'd rather go have a root canal than go to the Easter celebration so this works out really well for me. Can we schedule an AutoX for next easter too? ; )

[Loren]

This one just happened by accident. I didn't plan it to be on Easter, I just picked the date based on where it was on the calendar! I like holiday events, myself. Labor Day and Memorial day are good, too. They are all days when most people don't have to work.

I've done an Easter autocross before, though. It's kinda strange. There are those who say "You're doing an autocross on Easter??? Nobody will come!" And it is true that attendance will probably be a little lower than usual... but there will still be a lot of people there.

To help with folks who have kids to hide eggs for or church obligations, there will be a second opportunity for registration during the lunch break (about 12:30-1:00, somewhere in there). No guarantees that the late registrations will get as many runs as the early ones, though! (if there are just a few, they will, but if there are LOTS of them, we may have to cut them short to get finished on time) So be there early if you can.

[SlowerThanYou]

Ill be up there around 7:30am This will be my first time so wen I get up there If there is anyone willing to give me some pointers on what I need to do and where I would need to do I would apreciate it. Thanks

[Loren]

A little extra help is always welcome in the morning. We'll definitely hook you up with all the help you could ever want or need.

[SlowerThanYou]

Ill be there around 7:30am Im going to need to get the insurance waver so that I can have my parrents sign it. Is there anyway I can have the waver sent to my email address so I can have it signed and ready to go. Thanks ill be there and help out as much as possible. Thanks alot oh yea my email address is mikecivichb@yahoo.com so If you could send the waver there I would apreciate it. Oh yea and thanks alot. Ill see you guys there 7:30am sharp

[Loren]

Originally posted by mikecivichb
Ill be there around 7:30am Im going to need to get the insurance waver so that I can have my parrents sign it. Is there anyway I can have the waver sent to my email address so I can have it signed and ready to go. Thanks ill be there and help out as much as possible. Thanks alot oh yea my email address is mikecivichb@yahoo.com so If you could send the waver there I would apreciate it. Oh yea and thanks alot. Ill see you guys there 7:30am sharp

The insurance company requires that all waivers be on their original forms. (probably so that no one can say that the copy was crappy and they couldn't read what it said, that sort of thing) All of the forms are kept in our equipment trailer over in St. Pete, so I can't even mail you one. Sorry!

[SlowerThanYou]

:( Thanks any way. Does it need to be noterized? Ill just have one of my parents come up there with me. Im still going to go up there and help out anyways. When I get up there who should I talk to about helping out? I really want to get involved and get to know some new people. Thanks

[Loren]

Originally posted by mikecivichb
:( Thanks any way. Does it need to be noterized? Ill just have one of my parents come up there with me. Im still going to go up there and help out anyways. When I get up there who should I talk to about helping out?

Yeah, you can bring a parent to handle the paperwork, no notorization required.

Just look for someone who appears to either know what they're doing or needs help doing something. We're not terribly organized early in the morning!

[SlowerThanYou]

Thanks alot. I cant wait.:D

[99TL]

IMO the course should be extremely fast and any tight corner should be making a left hand turn.... i think that is a recipe for a really fair course. :)

[Charles]

Originally posted by 99TL
IMO the course should be extremely fast

They dont have room to design a "fast course" :)

[Loren]

Originally posted by SR20DET
They dont have room to design a "fast course" :)

Were you at the last event? That was just about as fast as we can get. Mostly 2nd gear, lots of sweepers.

But no... "fast" is not really possible on that site. We're pretty good at being "half-fast", though. :D

[SlowerThanYou]

I got to talkin to my friend and he said he may come up there with me. He'll race his Type R

[neurovish]

Low turnout means more runs.....

If my springs come in this week (which they should) I will make every attempt to attend....otherwise I will only make an attempt or two to attend.

[Charles]

Originally posted by Loren
Were you at the last event?

Nope I was planning on it but never actually made it. The course looked very similar to the one I ran my typhoon thru last year and yes it was about as fast as you can get with the limited space. Planning on coming this Sunday, just not sure what I'll bring. I do have new 275-NT555R front and 315-NT555R rear shoes on the turbo SUV ;)

[4wdFury]

can't wait to see you guys out there. Should be fun! Oh ya, whats for lunch this time around?

[Chin]

probably papa J

[4wdFury]

aww whatever happend to some good ol fashioned oriental catering?

[jabtay]

Ill be there! Unfortunatly i still havent bought my rear sway bar, so i will have some seruious tire rubbing in the sweepers :mad:

[Loren]

Don't know what lunch will be this time around. The oriental catering requires us to place an order well in advance, and we could lose money if attendance is too low. Not a good choice for this event... we just don't know how many people to expect!

We'll probably end up doing pizza again, it's just too easy.

The course design is coming along and may be ready to post for all to see by tomorrow. It looks like it's going to have a pretty fast slalom along the long south side, should be fun.

[SlowerThanYou]

I have a Q about the classes. I have a 1989 honda civic hb dx. I have aftermarket rims with toyo proxis tires. Will I still be in the beginer catagory? If not I still have my stock rims and tires. Thanks

[Loren]

Originally posted by mikecivichb
I have a Q about the classes. I have a 1989 honda civic hb dx. I have aftermarket rims with toyo proxis tires. Will I still be in the beginer catagory? If not I still have my stock rims and tires. Thanks

If you're a first timer, you're a Virgin. If you've got less than 6 events, you're a Novice. Unless your Proxes are RA-1's, they are street tires. We don't care what rims you have or anything else as long as your car is safe.

Don't worry about it much... we don't. ;)

[4wdFury]

ya just run and have fun!

[SlowerThanYou]

good. cant wait :D Ill be there brite and early. Im plannin on joining the club. The $30 membership so I can get the newsletter. See you all sunday. How many people usually run in the virgin class?

[Loren]

Originally posted by mikecivichb
good. cant wait :D Ill be there brite and early. Im plannin on joining the club. The $30 membership so I can get the newsletter. See you all sunday. How many people usually run in the virgin class?

We've had a lot of first-timers lately. I'd say somewhere between about 5 and 10 is typical.

[Loren]

Dan has worked up a little something that has everything in it. You want sweepers, we got sweepers. You want speed, we got some speed. You want a slalom, we got a slalom. You want a hairpin, well... yeah, I don't either, but we got one! And a twisty little carousel at the end, too.

The Course (http://www.sunridersautocross.com/gallery/images/11Apr04_Course.jpg)

[kennycanniff]

I'll be there !!!! :)

Kenny

[4wdFury]

NICE

[mofugga]

too bad it's easter sunday. i'm guessing it'll be a low turn out & lots of runs...

[Loren]

Originally posted by mofugga
too bad it's easter sunday. i'm guessing it'll be a low turn out & lots of runs...

I think I've heard from a lot more people saying that they WILL be there than people who said they wouldn't. We'll see. I'm expecting a slightly below average turnout, which will work out just great.

[neurovish]

I probably won't be driving...no springs this week

[SlowerThanYou]

Ill be out there still.

[OversteerS2K]

So, how was it? Who took the TTD?

I planned on going, but felt a little weird when I woke up at 2:30:beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: I'd imagine Oilleak & Muddy may have had the bottle flu today, as well.

[Bill]

It was a pretty good day. Course flowed a lot better than most Sunrider courses (ie: Lot more open) and the weather was great. I think the FTD was the Honda CRX coming in at something like 35seconds with the average runs probably being around 42 seconds or so. Everyone got five runs and then at the end of the day those who wanted to stay and help pick up got to run as many times as they could in a half hour period. I think I ran about four or five times, so ten runs ain't too shabby a day. :D:D After all that I still couldn't seem to break into 37's but
oh well. Still need to work on being more fluid I suppose. :beer:

[4wdFury]

ya definately a very fun day. I wish my tires were a little more inflated but overally very good day. Great weather and the course was fun. I wish I could've broken into the 30s but that .0086 seconds was holding me back.

[Loren]

I was pissed. My best regular run was 37.8... my very first fun run was 37.2! And I repeated it. Where was that half second earlier in the day???

[SlowerThanYou]

It was bad ass I had a great time. Everyone was really nice. It ran real smoth. I ran a 43.503. I thought was pretty good considering its my first time and Im in a stock beatup 89 civic hb dx. Stayed in first gear the whole time. Thanks alot. I think loren rode with me in my car the first time around the track. I think that was him. I dont know. It was fun I will defently be at the next race.

[Loren]

Originally posted by mikecivichb
It was bad ass I had a great time. Everyone was really nice. It ran real smoth. I ran a 43.503. I thought was pretty good considering its my first time and Im in a stock beatup 89 civic hb dx. Stayed in first gear the whole time. Thanks alot. I think loren rode with me in my car the first time around the track. I think that was him. I dont know. It was fun I will defently be at the next race.
Yeah, it was me. Would have liked to have stuck with you for a while longer, but there were 5 first timers in your run group! I rode with 3 of you, another guy rode in the S2000, and I think there may have been a newbie that had to go it alone. Oh well, I tried! :D

[SlowerThanYou]

Thanks alot loren for the pointers they really help out alot.:D

[4wdFury]

Originally posted by Loren
Yeah, it was me. Would have liked to have stuck with you for a while longer, but there were 5 first timers in your run group! I rode with 3 of you, another guy rode in the S2000, and I think there may have been a newbie that had to go it alone. Oh well, I tried! :D

ya garret and his s2k. First time out and runs 39.99. Damn those cars are nice.

[Loren]

Originally posted by 4wdFury
ya garret and his s2k. First time out and runs 39.99. Damn those cars are nice.
He was overdrivin' da hell outta that car! Shoulda/coulda been turning high 38's easily. I'm sure it will come to him in time.

[kennycanniff]

Yep ..I was FTD with a 35.320 in Howard's CRX ..... Howard was 2nd with a 36.230 ... Great day !!! Had fun ... I helped two novice guys in Miata's run a pair of 39's ... first autocross ever .. That was great to see how happy they were .... Dave and Lenny I think .... ...
Can't wait for next one ...
Kenny

[oilleak]

Originally posted by Loren
I was pissed. My best regular run was 37.8... my very first fun run was 37.2! And I repeated it. Where was that half second earlier in the day???
Ha! that would have PO'ed me too! I think a high 36 was possible on the azenis. with the kludged together alternator bracket I didn't want to keep trying though.

[Muddy]

Originally posted by OversteerS2K
So, how was it? Who took the TTD?

I planned on going, but felt a little weird when I woke up at 2:30:beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: I'd imagine Oilleak & Muddy may have had the bottle flu today, as well.
I didn't have a choice about when to get up this morning, as I had to be in Lake Wales at 10:30 to visit my grandparents for Easter. So, I got up at 8 am, took some advil and a tums and marched onward. BTW, beer and chili = bad combination! :fart:

I will probably make it to the next sunriders event in May. 8-)

[Loren]

"Nobody will come to an autocross on Easter"

Results are on the website:
SunRidersAutocross.com (http://www.sunridersautocross.com)

[SlowerThanYou]

i like my times. I thought I ran pretty decent. I was lucky number 24. Thanks alot everyone for all the help.

[Chin]

yeah, im down to thread on my MX's heheh

[oilleak]

Originally posted by Muddy
I got up at 8 am, took some advil and a tums and marched onward. BTW, beer and chili = bad combination! :fart:

Results are on the website:
SunRidersAutocross.com


Guiness is good for you:beer:

[SlowerThanYou]

chin180sx if you where driven the black 240sx with sr20det you did two good drifts. I thought you where going to loose it.

[Chin]

Nev-R haha I can do better if it was wider, but I didnt want to hit every cone ;-)

[Charles]

39.49 in the SUV, I even managed to keep it right side up :D

[Loren]

Originally posted by SR20DET
39.49 in the SUV, I even managed to keep it right side up :D
Dude, you shamed an awful lot of people with that truck. Good job!

Sorry about the hassle in the morning. Don't claim it as an SUV. It's really just a heavy sports car that's sort of shaped like an SUV. :cool:

[Charles]

Thanks :)

No problemo, yeah its a 4,000lb sports car with a tow hitch thats shaped like a brick:lol: New wheel and tire combo made a huge difference... they did very well for "Drag" Radials(NT555R's all around)

[perdition79]

Originally posted by SR20DET
its a 4,000lb sports car with a tow hitch thats shaped like a brick:lol: New wheel and tire combo made a huge difference... they did very well for "Drag" Radials(NT555R's all around)

that was one ass-kicking blazer. that turbo sounded like a city bus when you passed by the work station.

[4wdFury]

it sounded like a semi out there. Very sweet.

[ACR2NV]

Originally posted by SR20DET
39.49 in the SUV, I even managed to keep it right side up :D

i actually wasnt worried that you were gonna kill us around the course...of course everytime we finished the scent in the air was just so soothing :roll:

i wanted a go in the 2 neons and the SRT4 but was happy to watch....still dont think that car (srt4) is 41 sec car, the driver ran 3 of the 5 runs and gave up saying the car was acting up...more or less another case of OE (Operator Error) but ashamed to admit it :lol:

[Charles]

Originally posted by ACR2NV
i actually wasnt worried that you were gonna kill us around the course...of course everytime we finished the scent in the air was just so soothing :roll:


U mean that alcohol smell ? :)

[Charles]

Originally posted by Bill
It was a pretty good day.

Yeah... ur car looked really good out there Bill ;)

[neurovish]

Originally posted by Chin180sx
yeah, im down to thread on my MX's heheh

How long did those end up lasting you?
I'm probably gonna get a set when I can buy an extra set of wheels

[Chin]

a year with minor drfiting and hevey autoX

[JustwannaownCali]

Originally posted by ACR2NV

i wanted a go in the 2 neons and the SRT4 but was happy to watch....still dont think that car (srt4) is 41 sec car, the driver ran 3 of the 5 runs and gave up saying the car was acting up...more or less another case of OE (Operator Error) but ashamed to admit it :lol:

I actually did 4 of the 5 first runs...and the car didn't feel right so I let it be and did 2 runs at the end for fun...car ran just fine at that point. Next month I'll have the springs on and I'm sure I'll suprise a lot of people ;)

btw, a 4th place finish wasn't too shabby for my 2nd time ever on an auto-x course. And yea, I'll admit there was some OE...but then again, isn't there always?

[4wdFury]

one of the neons needs to learn understeer=bad

[perdition79]

Originally posted by 4wdFury
one of the neons needs to learn understeer=bad

which one? the black neon burning tires all over the course? that one was actually driving on my cheap yokohama street tires. i let him borrow them so he didn't ruin his street tires. he actually rubbed a small hole in his left side wheelwell cover, which exposed his cold air intake.

[Loren]

Originally posted by perdition79
which one? the black neon burning tires all over the course?
Yeah, I rode with him a couple runs. Nice kid, but I couldn't break him of his habit of FLOORING it whenever the car started to understeer. It almost seemed like he was used to driving high-power RWD and tail-sliding around turns. (oh wait... you kids call that "drifting" now, don't you? :D )

I told him repeatedly to LET UP when the car starts to understeer and be more gentle with the throttle. Even explained that a FWD car is asking to front tires to do all the work. Didn't seem to help much. Maybe having him ride with some good FWD drivers would help?

Unfortunately, as an instructor, I've learned that it's easier to teach someone to be more agressive than it is to teach them to be less agressive.

[4wdFury]

oh well. Was still fun, except for the mistake on my times on someones part. It was 40.1 on the board. *shrug*

[ACR2NV]

Originally posted by Loren
Yeah, I rode with him a couple runs. Nice kid, but I couldn't break him of his habit of FLOORING it whenever the car started to understeer. It almost seemed like he was used to driving high-power RWD and tail-sliding around turns. (oh wait... you kids call that "drifting" now, don't you? :D )

I told him repeatedly to LET UP when the car starts to understeer and be more gentle with the throttle. Even explained that a FWD car is asking to front tires to do all the work. Didn't seem to help much. Maybe having him ride with some good FWD drivers would help?

Unfortunately, as an instructor, I've learned that it's easier to teach someone to be more agressive than it is to teach them to be less agressive.

thanks for the advice....just ordered some parts for his car..hopefully next time you ride you wont be so disappointed...as for me i need to get my project on the road ASAP so i can come out there and see what i can do as a driver

[Loren]

Originally posted by 4wdFury
oh well. Was still fun, except for the mistake on my times on someones part. It was 40.1 on the board. *shrug*
40.106 + 2 seconds for the cone you hit = 42.106.

[Chin]

Lol, what is this you call "drift"

[4wdFury]

Originally posted by Loren
40.106 + 2 seconds for the cone you hit = 42.106.

ahh I got it. Oh well I got it down after the fun runs. Note to self, check tire pressure before heading out to autox(I was running low so steering response was less than optimal).

[fastbodykit]

43.510 -_-

oh man i was so slow, but i wasn't really pushing it. didn't feel all that comfortable with the instructor in the car.

[Loren]

Originally posted by fastbodykit
43.510 -_-

oh man i was so slow, but i wasn't really pushing it. didn't feel all that comfortable with the instructor in the car.

Having an instructor in the car is a valuable tool. Just pretend they aren't there and drive. Then they can evaluate and hopefully tell you things that will help you improve. But if you're not pushing it because they're in the car... then they don't get an accurate picture of your driving and their feedback won't help you as much.

Your time was good for a first-timer. The course was simple to follow, but not so easy to drive correctly. It was intentionally set up to be misleading... that's part of the autocross game. I don't think there was a car out there that wasn't capable of turning a time well below 40 seconds, but only 1/3 of the drivers pulled it off. So it's not just you... there were a lot of mistakes to be made on that course, and everyone made some of them.

Stay tuned, I think I'll dig up the course map and do a "correct line" on it. Maybe it will help someone.

[Bill]

Originally posted by SR20DET
Yeah... ur car looked really good out there Bill ;)

Thanks man. 6th place overall, 3rd place in class, I guess I can't really complain. The Datson (Oilleak on the board right?) and Loren tromped my times but I think I'm steadily getting better. I was considering running some race compounds but I think I'll hold off and work on driver skill for now. Besides...it's cheaper. :D:D

Next time I'm going to have to jump in the passenger seat with you. That SUV ;) was great to watch when you'd get on it.

[SlowerThanYou]

I felt comfortable with loren in my car. As a matter a fact I wish he could have ran with again on my last run so he could tell if I maid any progress. Ill hope I can get you to run inside my car may 8th loren. Never mind I just rembered I know your busy with the 10 cars that day. Maybe someone else can take a ride with me? Ahwell This is defently going to be a monthly thing now. :D

[SlowerThanYou]

Oh yea bill great job.

[Charles]

Originally posted by Bill
I was considering running some race compounds but I think I'll hold off and work on driver skill for now. Besides...it's cheaper. :D:D



I'm thinking along the same lines myself. I know "the driver" could have picked up another second or so outta the SUV.

I'm planning on making the event in May, hope to see you out there Bill. With any luck there won't be a slalom for me to fight thru with my awful steering ratio:D

[Chin]

I really need rear tires...heheheheheheh

[fastbodykit]

yeah, loren really did help ALOT, i definatly wouldn't have gotten the time that i had without his help :)

[Loren]

I didn't want to take the time to redo Dan's course map, but it's pretty close to reality. Here's the line I drove Sunday. How close were you to it?

[4wdFury]

everything seems about right cept the downshifting to first. Not fun in a non-miata.

[SlowerThanYou]

I stayed in first gear like you said loren and I think I hit the rev limiter once. Some of the corners I had wright but others were way off. I guess I just takes time to figure out how to run a line.

[Loren]

You know, I've heard that "I can't downshift to first in this car" thing before. And I would buy it in a car like Brian's old Datsun... but in anything built within the last 20 years or so... I don't buy it. I've driven several cars where the owner said they couldn't pull a good downshift to first and dropped it in smooth as silk. Practice rev-matching! A little throttle blip to match the revs and the car will eagerly slip right into first.

And, Mike, if you wern't hittting the rev limiter much, you didn't really need to shift to 2nd. I bet if you'd been on the right line, you could have carried more speed and maybe been on the rev limiter more. Then you have to decide if it's worth shifting into 2nd. For me, it was.

[oilleak]

FWIW, I double clutch my downshifts. Rev matching is a must so you have to learn how to do that. I think it's actually easier to double clutch as once you get used to it, it has a rythm. Either way, you'll have trouble with the shift itself, or the result of the shift if you don't learn that skill.
Some cars have the pedals spaced too far apart for easy heal and toe but that generally allows easier left foot braking which leads to the next skill to learn, Clutchless Downshifting. That allows left foot braking in a braking zone in which you need to downshift. That of course means practicing my left foot braking more which is difficult in my car 'cause the pedals are spaced so close together.

[4wdFury]

Originally posted by Loren
You know, I've heard that "I can't downshift to first in this car" thing before. And I would buy it in a car like Brian's old Datsun... but in anything built within the last 20 years or so... I don't buy it. I've driven several cars where the owner said they couldn't pull a good downshift to first and dropped it in smooth as silk. Practice rev-matching! A little throttle blip to match the revs and the car will eagerly slip right into first.

And, Mike, if you wern't hittting the rev limiter much, you didn't really need to shift to 2nd. I bet if you'd been on the right line, you could have carried more speed and maybe been on the rev limiter more. Then you have to decide if it's worth shifting into 2nd. For me, it was.

oh I can do it but by the time I get into gear I'm about at rev limiter anyways since my 1st gear is so short.

[oilleak]

The only reason to downshift is to keep the engine from falling off the torque curve. If you're on the rev limiter imediately after a downshift then there was no need for the shift - it slowed you down. That said, The hairpin after the slalom was only about a 15mph corner and almost every car's first gear is good for at least 25mph. Mine will do 39 in first. I can't imagine any car that would be on the revlimiter there. The ultimate judge though is the timer.

[perdition79]

my first gear is good for 30, so i stayed in first for the entire course. and each time around, i hit my rev limiter three times.

[JustwannaownCali]

I tried shifting between first and second, but I just couldn't multi-tast that much for some reason...I kept forgetting to shift back into 2nd after downshifting to first...or I'd over-rev on the rev match...my head just wasn't in it sunday. hopefully next month I'll be a little more prepared...looking to get some new springs by then too, so we'll see how things go.

[Loren]

Originally posted by JustwannaownCali
I tried shifting between first and second, but I just couldn't multi-tast that much for some reason...I kept forgetting to shift back into 2nd after downshifting to first...or I'd over-rev on the rev match...my head just wasn't in it sunday. hopefully next month I'll be a little more prepared...looking to get some new springs by then too, so we'll see how things go.
You definitely want to keep the shifting to a minimum and only do it when it is absolutely necessary. And then do it where it is easiest to do. You'll noticed that I short shifted to 2nd to avoid having to shift in the middle of a sweeper and I downshifted in a nice straight section before the hairpin. Smoothness above all else!

[JustwannaownCali]

Thanx for the advice...for some reason, when I was in CT I could tear thru the backroads that made these courses look like straight aways like they were nothing....but in the srt-4 in such a tight space I just can't put everything I know to work at the same time.

[SlowerThanYou]

they said they posted pictures how come I dont see them on sunriders?

[Loren]

Originally posted by mikecivichb
they said they posted pictures how come I dont see them on sunriders?
Who is "they"?

[mofugga]

Originally posted by 4wdFury
everything seems about right cept the downshifting to first. Not fun in a non-miata.
trust me, with a 2.5RS you don't need to downshift to 1st. i've done pretty good at the sunriders events just leaving it in 2nd. if anything, downshifting to 1st will slow you down unless you are good at heel-toeing.

[SlowerThanYou]

Im part of the yahoo sunridersautocross group and in an email that I got it said that some guy posted pictures of the easter autocross.

[Loren]

Originally posted by mikecivichb
Im part of the yahoo sunridersautocross group and in an email that I got it said that some guy posted pictures of the easter autocross.
Wouldn't it make more sense to ask your question THERE so that the person who posted the pictures can answer it?

[Leonard]

Originally posted by Loren
Wouldn't it make more sense to ask your question THERE so that the person who posted the pictures can answer it?


Come on Loren, I know you can issue the smackdown better than that... :-P

[Loren]

Originally posted by Leonard
Come on Loren, I know you can issue the smackdown better than that... :-P
Oh, I can. You know I can. I'm trying to be nice. :)

This is the kinder, gentler me.

[Leonard]

That's no fun... :-/

[Loren]

Originally posted by Leonard
That's no fun... :-/
Oh, alright... just to add a little sunshine to your day:

Mike, don't be a dumb ass! If someone posts information on one forum, don't go asking questions about it on another forum... on another website! The SunRiders Autocross yahoo group is not a read-only forum. I know this because I'm the one who set it up.

Go ye therefore and post your query there, where it will surely be answered by those who know.

PS: I've got about a dozen videos of Miatas on that course that someone sent me. Anybody want to host them?
They are about 5-6 mb each.

[SlowerThanYou]

damn you dont have to be such a god damn jerk about it the first responce was just fine no need for second the go fuck your self.

was that a good response?







J/K ok let me be nice and the bigger man. Im sorry and Ill learn from my mistakes. Thank you for your loving comments. Oh yea I love you guys .:D

[Loren]

Originally posted by mikecivichb
damn you dont have to be such a god damn jerk about it the first responce was just fine no need for second the go fuck your self.

was that a good response?

J/K ok let me be nice and the bigger man. Im sorry and Ill learn from my mistakes. Thank you for your loving comments. Oh yea I love you guys .:D
On a scale of 1-10, I'd give it about a 6. ;)

[mofugga]

:banana:

[Bill]

Originally posted by Loren
On a scale of 1-10, I'd give it about a 6. ;)

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Damn, so many assholes in here. :D:D

[SlowerThanYou]

Can we all be friends now? :D

[4wdFury]

might as well be dicks here and nice guys @ the autox's and track days.

[SlowerThanYou]

ooohhhhhhh so thats how it works ok. :lol: :lol:

[kennycanniff]

feel the love, feel the love :) :) :lol:

Kenny