G-ville this weekend

[99TL]

just want some confirmation that there is an autocross up there this coming weekend.... anyone going?

[oilleak]

Yup!

[PseudoRealityX]

Sunday only, the 7th.

[Bill]

I'll be there but doubt I'll be driving.

[steve]

ohhhhhh i might be going to this

[99TL]

is this a regional event? if so what is the significance of a regional event?

[OversteerS2K]

The event on the 7th is a regular S.C.C.A. Central Florida Region event. The points apply only to the C.F.R. West coast series. In January we had a four run day. We should get four, and maybe more, this time. The course will be in the 50 to 65(+) sec. range depending on the car & driver. It should be a good time. I always suck at G.I.R., but the place is fun to drive at and I'll always give it priority over any other site except Buckingham Field. It's nice to have the course boundaries dictated by grass, for a change. It makes for a much easier course to follow, regardless of the actual elements.

There WILL be a divisional at G.I.R. in June. The Divisional will be the second in a three event series. The idea is that the best drivers in the S.C.C.A. SouthEastern Region run the series as preparation for the National Championships. The three Divisionals all are points events and series champs. are crowned... The June event will run like a National Tour event where your best Saturday run and best Sunday run are compiled, positions being determined by the best two-day time. Likely there will be only three runs on each day. Someone who actually has done the Divisional series, please feel free to elaborate.

[steve]

is there a price and time yet

[OversteerS2K]

Event Flyer: http://www.cfrsolo2.com/Flyers2004/3_04_gir.pdf

[steve]

how long dose it take to get up

[OversteerS2K]

1)Go to www.MapQuest.com .
2) Put in your address and use Gainesville Regional Airport, under "business name", as the destination (can't find the actual G.I.R. address).

Add five minutes and that should be accurate.

[PseudoRealityX]

Originally posted by OversteerS2K
There WILL be a divisional at G.I.R. in June. The Divisional will be the second in a three event series.

Just a quick correction...

This year, it's a 4 event series.

Atlanta, GA; Gainesville, FL; Laurens, SC; Norfolk, VA

[BodyRollin']

Originally posted by steve
how long dose it take to get up werent you with us last time??? it takes a little under 2 hrs. wish i was going....but again 1000+ miles away is kicking my ass.

[Muddy]

I will be there with my new2me 10ae. :D

[OversteerS2K]

10ae...I predict some ass kicking at Sunriders events this year.

[steve]

Originally posted by BodyRollin'
werent you with us last time??? it takes a little under 2 hrs. wish i was going....but again 1000+ miles away is kicking my ass.
yeah but it was raining and it was a errrrrrrr i don't rember

[PseudoRealityX]

Originally posted by OversteerS2K
10ae...I predict some ass kicking at Sunriders events this year.

eh, i doubt it. Infact, i bet Brian will have been faster in the Cavalier. Contrary to popular belief, the usual sunrider courses are terrible for miatas...

[99TL]

Originally posted by PseudoRealityX
eh, i doubt it. Infact, i bet Brian will have been faster in the Cavalier. Contrary to popular belief, the usual sunrider courses are terrible for miatas...

and even more terrible for 540's w/ an open differential.

[oilleak]

Ahh, remember it's all driver. 3rd fastest time of the day in January was set by an Impalla SS.

[99TL]

i remember... that thing had some serious work done to it though. that thing had unbelievable traction....wish i could get power to the ground like that thing.

[PseudoRealityX]

Originally posted by oilleak
Ahh, remember it's all driver. 3rd fastest time of the day in January was set by an Impalla SS.

it's true that Kenny's freaking fast...and on this board every so often.

But my point is that the sunriders' courses aren't that bad for an Impalla...

they're usually made up of little choppy sections where being able to come out of a corner with some torque down in the rpm band would do well.

Hence why Brian did so well in the cavalier, Kenny does so well in the Impalla, etc. Ironically, the miata club's courses' aren't suited for miatas at all. They want speed maintence, offset heavy courses where they can get upto speed, and keep it.

[PseudoRealityX]

Originally posted by 99TL
i remember... that thing had some serious work done to it though. that thing had unbelievable traction....wish i could get power to the ground like that thing.

your 540 would benefit hugely from a LSD, bigger front sway bar, and some better tires.:)

nothing serious needs to be done to the CAR.

[Miles]

damn it all i still don't have tires.... FAWK!!!! bald falkens > me

[99TL]

Originally posted by PseudoRealityX
your 540 would benefit hugely from a LSD, bigger front sway bar, and some better tires.:)

nothing serious needs to be done to the CAR.

in the process of getting coilovers/sways/new tires over the next 2-3 months. lsd might come a little bit further down the road but i am afraid i will start breaking things. the car does pretty well on the faster tracks but the tight ones kill me... as much as i try to modulate throttle inputs it is extremely difficult to keep it from breaking the inside tire. more experience will help with that though as i am still pretty much a virgin...

[Card]

I actually have the track rented out on the 6th. Looks like I'm going to have to stay up for the weekend.

And I get a practice day. :)

[Muddy]

Originally posted by PseudoRealityX
it's true that Kenny's freaking fast...and on this board every so often.

But my point is that the sunriders' courses aren't that bad for an Impalla...

they're usually made up of little choppy sections where being able to come out of a corner with some torque down in the rpm band would do well.

Hence why Brian did so well in the cavalier, Kenny does so well in the Impalla, etc. Ironically, the miata club's courses' aren't suited for miatas at all. They want speed maintence, offset heavy courses where they can get upto speed, and keep it.
SO TRUE. I had beaten all the miatas a few years ago in the cavalier, in fact the only person that did beat me that day was Dennis Brunton. I may attend a sunriders event here and there, and I will certainly do better in the miata than I did with the supra. :lol:

[OversteerS2K]

Course: http://www.cfrsolo2.com/Flyers2004/Course_03_07_04_1024.jpg

Weather forecast: Sun. Mar 07 Scattered T-Storms 74°/44°
40 % Chance of rain.....again!

[99TL]

i am going to SC for a PCA event so the thread starter is going to be a no-show... was really looking forward to this event too.

[Muddy]

Originally posted by OversteerS2K
Course: http://www.cfrsolo2.com/Flyers2004/Course_03_07_04_1024.jpg

Weather forecast: Sun. Mar 07 Scattered T-Storms 74°/44°
40 % Chance of rain.....again!
The course map is confusing. What is supposed to happen after the second slalom?

[mofugga]

Originally posted by Muddy
The course map is confusing. What is supposed to happen after the second slalom?
an MR2 goes into the drink:lol:

[OversteerS2K]

The course map is confusing. What is supposed to happen after the second slalom?

Uh, the true 2nd slalom or the second slalom-ish series? O.K., start -> little meaningless wiggles (at least to our size cars) --> tap brakes for moderately open "Chicago Box" ---> on gas for long, increasing distance optional slalom, brake hard ----> 90 degree right into a 3(6, actually) cone optional slalom, brake a little -----> 90 degree left ------> pretty open straight with a little lane left/right/left change and hard braking at the end, while trying to stay right ------> 90+ degree left (stay out of the drink) into the left sweeper --------> decide if you want to take a slalom that's as tight as legal with every spare cone in the truck waiting to get whacked, OR take the line you're in through the benign chicane --------> brake into another 90 degree left, and into that same 3 (6) cone slalom, but you're entering and exiting differently both times through (if you want to), brake--------------> same ole' 90 deg. left, but you're coming into it on a faster and earlier apexing line ------------------> same ole' straight with a little left/right/left lane change, but when you brake this time through you'll be braking straight-----------------------> a DIFFERENT! 90+ degree right, into the long right sweeper-----------------------------> another meaningless wiggle to keep you on your toes while shifting to 2nd-----------------> a few gates to keep you from cheating on the "?" (what do you call that thing) well, you'll have to brake into it unless you're in a skinny little Datsun 2000 or a kart--------------------------------------> back standing on the gas and through ANOTHER absolutely meaningless wiggly 1/2 lane change and through the "hallway"/"alley"/"chute" (some would call it overusage of old blackened pylons)----------------------------------> oops, cook those brakes again and hope you have ABS on that 10ae <did you find the modulator?> and into another nameless slowdown quick jog thing-a-ma-jigger-----------------------> gas brake gas into the 90+ (maybe 115*) right and through a long left sweeper, apexing early and sliding your (insert RWD car's name here) across the finish and not into the drink.

If it rains, again, I'm going agnostic.

[oilleak]

He'll never live that down.

Turn left, through the decreasing radius, past the optional chicane, left and then trough the slalom again - turn right through the increasing radius and run the rest of the course.

I DO walk the courses much better than I drive them!

[PseudoRealityX]

i think ill actually try to walk it this time... i didn't last GIR event

[Muddy]

Originally posted by OversteerS2K
Uh, the true 2nd slalom or the second slalom-ish series? O.K., start -> little meaningless wiggles (at least to our size cars) --> tap brakes for moderately open "Chicago Box" ---> on gas for long, increasing distance optional slalom, brake hard ----> 90 degree right into a 3(6, actually) cone optional slalom, brake a little -----> 90 degree left ------> pretty open straight with a little lane left/right/left change and hard braking at the end, while trying to stay right ------> 90+ degree left (stay out of the drink) into the left sweeper --------> decide if you want to take a slalom that's as tight as legal with every spare cone in the truck waiting to get whacked, OR take the line you're in through the benign chicane --------> brake into another 90 degree left, and into that same 3 (6) cone slalom, but you're entering and exiting differently both times through (if you want to), brake--------------> same ole' 90 deg. left, but you're coming into it on a faster and earlier apexing line ------------------> same ole' straight with a little left/right/left lane change, but when you brake this time through you'll be braking straight-----------------------> a DIFFERENT! 90+ degree right, into the long right sweeper-----------------------------> another meaningless wiggle to keep you on your toes while shifting to 2nd-----------------> a few gates to keep you from cheating on the "?" (what do you call that thing) well, you'll have to brake into it unless you're in a skinny little Datsun 2000 or a kart--------------------------------------> back standing on the gas and through ANOTHER absolutely meaningless wiggly 1/2 lane change and through the "hallway"/"alley"/"chute" (some would call it overusage of old blackened pylons)----------------------------------> oops, cook those brakes again and hope you have ABS on that 10ae <did you find the modulator?> and into another nameless slowdown quick jog thing-a-ma-jigger-----------------------> gas brake gas into the 90+ (maybe 115*) right and through a long left sweeper, apexing early and sliding your (insert RWD car's name here) across the finish and not into the drink.

If it rains, again, I'm going agnostic.

:lol: that is what I thought.

[steve]

man that course looks fun can't wait

[OversteerS2K]

These weather fucks revise everything ten times a day.

As of Wed. @ 4:30 PM, Gainesville: Sun. Mar 07 Mostly Cloudy 75°/47° 20 % Chance of rain.

[PseudoRealityX]

how about we just wait till we get there?

last time it said it was going to rain all day and it ended up being 70 and sunny for 90% of the day.

Just show up.

[Leonard]

If anyone is looking for a co-driver, I'll contribute to your tire/gas fund....

:-D

[Tits McGee]

If the weather is looking good, Charles and I should be there, probably just in the wagon though.

[PseudoRealityX]

if the weather is looking good where? you live 2 hours away. Who the hell cares what the weather looks like to you?;)

like i said, last time on the EVENT MORNING, it called for rain all day. And what really happened? It was 70 and sunny, ALL DAY.

[Tits McGee]

4 hours round trip blows if it ends up raining there too.....I could give two shits less what its doing here as long as when I get up to cousinfuckerville it's not raining.

[steve]

fine then don't go
more time for us

[Tits McGee]

bah....I'll be there just to piss you off aussie brit. :p

[PseudoRealityX]

Latest Gville forecast for the weekend...

Sat: 10% chance
Sun: 20% chance


So...with their track record, I'm thinking hail...

[OversteerS2K]

Gainesville:
Sun. Mar 07 Few Snow Showers 33°/23° 30 %

:o


O.K. that's G'Ville, NY

Sun
Mar 07 Mostly Cloudy 75°/47° 20 %

20% isn't shit. No one should stay home and then hear later what a great day it was for autocrossing. :cool:

cousinfuckerville

That's classic....Actually my girlfriend lives there. It's called Zephyrhills and is a much shorter drive if you're hard up to do a cousin. They have a dirt track that they autocross on too...

[steve]

so 6am at the reat stop on 75

[OversteerS2K]

Steve, I'll be passing that same rest area @ 5 a.m.. Now that IS Eastern Standard Time. Apparently, last time, your alarm clock was set on C.S.T.?

If you could get your work assignment out of the way by showing up at 7 a.m., with me, to help set up the course would you be interested? Just asking...I can't promise that yet. You'd hustle a little in the morning, but would have two of the three run groups off.

[flmcoupe]

Hey Todd, in case I don't make it this weekend do you want your tape back before Sunday? If you're in Brandon tomorrow I'll have it with me. Call me.

[OversteerS2K]

Yes. I need it. I'll call in the afternoon. You shouldn't miss it...

[oilleak]

Todd,
If I get up there early enough and you don't have help, I'll help set the course up - Not sure I'll be there at 7 or 7:30 yet though.

[OversteerS2K]

Thanks Brian. I don't have any solid commitments from anyone yet and it will just take too long to do alone.

Hmm. Car Salesman thoughts here: It's really a much nicer drive leaving before 5. You don't have the sun to deal with. There are less cars in your way. The old folks aren't heading to church yet. You'll get a better feel for the course than you could by just walking it. Your friends and colleages will admire the effort. You'll get a prime pit spot....O.K., I'm out of bait. I hope someone is there or you all will be twiddling your thumbs at start time instead of actually starting. First three that are 100% commited get out of their work assignment.

[OversteerS2K]

The latest from the prophets @ weather.com

Sat. Mar 06 Mostly Cloudy 84°/52° 20 %

Sun. Mar 07 Partly Cloudy 74°/47° 10 % Chance.....
It's looking better and better.

Course Maps will be on hand at registration. Don't print the one off of this thread because the course has changed a little bit.

[oilleak]

I'll get there as early as I can.

[w0rd]

Originally posted by oilleak
I'll get there as early as I can.
Same here.

[OversteerS2K]

Now they have a forecast I like. Any leftover moisture should dry quickly as the humidty will be dropping throughout the day and the winds will be steadily rising. Sweet...

Sunday, Mar 7 Temp °F Feels Like Dew Point Precip. Humid. Wind

6 AM Partly Cloudy 54° 53° 51° 10% 89% From the West Northwest at 4 mph


7 AM Partly Cloudy 54° 53° 51° 10% 87% From the West Northwest at 4 mph


8 AM Partly Cloudy 56° 55° 50° 10% 81% From the Northwest at 5 mph


9 AM Partly Cloudy 60° 60° 50° 10% 72% From the Northwest at 6 mph


10 AM Partly Cloudy 63° 63° 50° 10% 63% From the Northwest at 7 mph


11 AM Partly Cloudy 66° 66° 49° 10% 54% From the West Northwest at 8 mph


12 PM Partly Cloudy 69° 69° 47° 10% 47% From the West at 9 mph


1 PM Partly Cloudy 71° 71° 45° 10% 40% From the West at 10 mph

[steve]

Originally posted by OversteerS2K
Steve, I'll be passing that same rest area @ 5 a.m.. Now that IS Eastern Standard Time. Apparently, last time, your alarm clock was set on C.S.T.?

If you could get your work assignment out of the way by showing up at 7 a.m., with me, to help set up the course would you be interested? Just asking...I can't promise that yet. You'd hustle a little in the morning, but would have two of the three run groups off.

ahah no last time i was wanting for a friend and a deer hit his car so we meet up with chirs at the rest stop about 7

if you need help i'll meet you there at 5

[Muddy]

Originally posted by OversteerS2K
Now they have a forecast I like. Any leftover moisture should dry quickly as the humidty will be dropping throughout the day and the winds will be steadily rising. Sweet...

Sunday, Mar 7 Temp °F Feels Like Dew Point Precip. Humid. Wind

6 AM Partly Cloudy 54° 53° 51° 10% 89% From the West Northwest at 4 mph


7 AM Partly Cloudy 54° 53° 51° 10% 87% From the West Northwest at 4 mph


8 AM Partly Cloudy 56° 55° 50° 10% 81% From the Northwest at 5 mph


9 AM Partly Cloudy 60° 60° 50° 10% 72% From the Northwest at 6 mph


10 AM Partly Cloudy 63° 63° 50° 10% 63% From the Northwest at 7 mph


11 AM Partly Cloudy 66° 66° 49° 10% 54% From the West Northwest at 8 mph


12 PM Partly Cloudy 69° 69° 47° 10% 47% From the West at 9 mph


1 PM Partly Cloudy 71° 71° 45° 10% 40% From the West at 10 mph
You are far to obscessed with the weather. I love racing in the rain, so I will be happy either way. :D

[OversteerS2K]

You are far to obscessed with the weather. I love racing in the rain, so I will be happy either way.

I never was until I went to the current set-up. If it rains I have to run 17" wheels and although ASP is pretty weak locally, I still get bumped to a class that's ridiculous for my car (stock, power wise). I don't want or need any ASP points, so I get a little uptight about rain now.

if you need help i'll meet you there at 5 Sorry, didn't know about the deer deal. I stayed at that rest area until almost 5:30 cursing you under my breath. All my assumptions are wrong.

YES! I'll be there at, or before 5, and will leave by 5:05. 1 stop at the gas station right before the track, 90's in 70's, and we'll be there by 7. Gracias. My car will be the one with the big ass wheel strapped to the trunk lid...

[PseudoRealityX]

Originally posted by OversteerS2K
I never was until I went to the current set-up. If it rains I have to run 17" wheels and although ASP is pretty weak locally, I still get bumped to a class that's ridiculous class for my car (stock, power wise). I don't want or need any ASP points, so I get a little uptight about rain now.

Sorry, didn't know about the deer deal. I stayed at that rest area until almost 5:30 cursing you under my breath. All my assumptions are wrong.

YES! I'll be there at, or before 5, and will leave by 5:05. 1 stop at the gas station right before the track, 90's in 70's, and we'll be there by 7. Gracias. My car will be the one with the big ass wheel strapped to the trunk lid...

It's a good practice to use the hooiers in the rain. Because one day, you'll be stuck with them....in the rain. You'll learn car control even faster. More importantly, you'll learn patience.

[steve]

i'll be there

[Charles]

Originally posted by steve
i'll be there

Azenis are mounted and the shaggin' wagon is ready to roll for tomorrow:)

What time are you heading out in the morning?? We are looking for someone to caravan with that isn't leaving at the buttcrack of dawn. :D

[OversteerS2K]

Hopefully Steve will be leaving BEFORE the butt-crack of dawn. But, Steve, if you want to get another hour of sleep it sounds like the course is at least half done already. No one will blame you for not wanting to waking up at 4:30.

[Charles]

It's cool either way..... I'd get up earlier and lend a hand myself if my normal sleep schedule wasn't f'd up. I work 7pm-7am shifts :) so I'm doing good just to get up at my normal bedtime :-D

[neurovish]

well, I made a last minute decision to go....guess I'm gonna hate work on monday because of this....
this also means that it is going to rain in the morning, GS and the other stock classes are gonna run, dry off the track, and everybody else gets nice and dry runs....that's what happened the last n times i showed up at GIR.....can't remember what it's like to drive there when it isn't wet

[OversteerS2K]

I was in that same run group last time and was pissed too, but had no one but Mother Nature to blame. I've been to GIR maybe five times and only drove it dry once.

Well, it's long before the butt-crack of dawn and I don't see any chance of rain. Hope this turns out better than last time, but I didn't sleep a wink so I know I'll drive like shit (especially on the way back home). Tylenol PM and three beers....may as well have slammed ten cups of coffee.

We need to get some CB's so that people can radio alerts for pigs on the way up to G'Ville or the way down to Ft. Myers.

[steve]

Originally posted by OversteerS2K
Steve, if you want to get another hour of sleep it sounds like the course is at least half done already. No one will blame you for not wanting to waking up at 4:30.

hahaah now you tell me

[OversteerS2K]

Well, you saw how it turned out. I guess it was sort of done, but it still took until almost 9 to finish...........AND IT SUCKED. Thanks for getting up early Steve. Hopefully not having to stand out in the sun working the course and being able to head home early was worth it. We did make some good time. By my clock, we went from that rest area to GIR in 1:30.

Note to self, never make a course longer than 60 seconds. 3 runs absolutely blows. At least it was dry, that is for everyone except "Muddy". I thought that tag had some connection to New Orleans......now I understand. I wish I had that on video. The splash of dirty water had to go at least 10 feet high (I wouldn't get a kick out of it if he and the car weren't both alright).

Hope someone had fun today.

[PseudoRealityX]

what's so much funnier is how Brian was talking about comparing how nice his car was compared to Alan Gross' Miata.

Not to mention he did the same thing to my car in Alabama last january.

Brian....if you read this. DONT LIFT! ;)

[MrSideways]

MUDDY RETURNS!!!

[Muddy]

Originally posted by PseudoRealityX
what's so much funnier is how Brian was talking about comparing how nice his car was compared to Alan Gross' Miata.

Not to mention he did the same thing to my car in Alabama last january.

Brian....if you read this. DONT LIFT! ;)
You and your codriver were playing in the dirt a little yourselves. :lol: 5 minutes at the car wash made the car look nice again.

[MrSideways]

Yeah, Mud is easier to get off the cone marks, They require wax!

[Loren]

Originally posted by OversteerS2K
Note to self, never make a course longer than 60 seconds. 3 runs absolutely blows.
Wasn't there, didn't see the course, but...

You can make a course 60 seconds, even 90 seconds and not effect the number of runs. The trick is to design the course such that you can safely have more than one car on the course.

The key to an efficient event (anyone who's been to the Solo Nationals knows this) is start interval. If you can maintain a 25-30 second start interval, you can get in a LOT more runs and it matters not how long the course is. (unless you have lots of reruns, then it can become an issue)

[PseudoRealityX]

Originally posted by MrSideways
Yeah, Mud is easier to get off the cone marks, They require wax!

What is this wax you speak of? Heresy!

[mofugga]

Originally posted by mofugga
an MR2 goes into the drink:lol:
damn, i should have said a miata

[jabtay]

For my first time i really enjoyed it, wish i would have gotten more runs though