How is this for an estimate on a sub box? Know of a cheaper car audio store?

[RoushMan3]

I got an estimate from a car audio store on a box that I'm going to need for 2 10" solo baric subs. They are charging 120 for a bandpass box for both subs. Is this a good deal? Can anyone suggest a car audio store that could get me a better deal on a box? (pm me the name of the car audio store. I wouldn't want anyone going back and forth over which car audio store is better.)

thanks :cool:

[Bumpin Expo]

Bla i dunno about band pass...

I heard those subs glorify in properly tuned and built ported enclosures. Im pretty sure someone on here will b glad to do it for u for the rite price. My past experience with bandpass = loud and dirtyyy

[stockls 15.4??what]

i would definatly NOT get a bandpass box for those speakers...they are going to sound like shit...the best box to get for the is pretty damn big and ported...depening on what ohm's/wattage ur going to be running i would get the same box i have...if ur going with a big amp like 1500 watts and running 1 ohm on the speakers i would get a sealed box so u bon't burn out voice coils all day...

go to DEVINE SOUNDS on waters and dale mabry...tell them david with the black integra sent u and they'll hook u up

[RoushMan3]

I'll definately check out Divine Sounds, thanks for the reference David. Also, the amp that is gonna be powering these is a Kenwood Escelon KAC-X10D 1600 watt max power. I think it's 1 ohm stable, but I'm not into competitions or anything, I just like bass so it won't be set up for 1 ohm. Here's a pick:

http://blort.org/~itrendz/bran_pics/Sub_Amp.jpg

So do I go ported or sealed?

[Kirk]

I think frankie still works there making the boxes, @ Divine Sounds.. he does a good job

[Derek]

hmm 120 for a custom bandpass is good . If there prices are good which they should be if thats the price of a bandpass and tehre harder to make id go with them....

[TBSpyder]

Are the subs L5's or L7's?

[RoushMan3]

They're L7's

[TBSpyder]

In that case..you might want to consider only one with that amp. There's a couple of advantages...1. being less space for a box and 2. being the sub will play more efficiently/louder/better being it will be receiving all the power instead of only half. Just my .02, that's what I'd probably do.

[Bumpin Expo]

Whats the RMS of that amp? I doubt itll run 2 L7's efficently.

[TBSpyder]

Originally posted by Afboy143
Whats the RMS of that amp? I doubt itll run 2 L7's efficently.

That's what I'm saying...:cool:

[RoushMan3]

So if 600-700 watts per sub isn't enough, how much more power do I need? Any suggestions on a specific amp I should pick up for the power boost would be great.

Here's a link that has the specs on the amp I have now

Kenwood Amp (http://www.kenwoodusa.com/product/product.jsp?productTypeId=11&sortBy=price&productLineId=1&productId=2424)

Rich

[TBSpyder]

You're thinking MAX power, which is irrelevent. That amp does 600w RMS x 1 @ 2ohms, 300w RMS x1 @ 4ohms. Not quite sure how you plan on wiring the subs up...but as you can see that is considerably less than what you thought it does. IMO, 1 L7 getting the full amount of power from that amp would sound better than 2 L7's getting half the power...get what I'm trying to say?

[RoushMan3]

Yeah, I definately understand what you're saying, but I already have the 2 solo barics so I would rather spend more money on another amp and make both hit hard then trying to sell one.

Rich

[TBSpyder]

Oh, I was assuming you didn't have anything yet. In that case, I would try to find a mono amp that does around 1500w RMS. Not sure what kind of price range you're looking for, but a nice cheap amp would be a JBL 1200.1, you can find one for around $300 brand new. They're listed at 1200w RMS @ 1ohm and are underrated.

[Bumpin Expo]

one of my friends has 2 solobarics l7 10's in a ported box off a hifonics 1500 watt brutus amp and it slams. Another one of my friends, Derek, has the same amp runnin a XXX 15". Its a good amp search for it on ebay. Hifonics Brutus bx1500. PLan to spend around 300-340

[Bumpin Expo]

max power means it might hit that much power for a fraction of a second. RMS is continious. TBS said u should get JBL but the JBL doesnt have a subsonic filter which is nice when it comes to ported boxes if your going to get one. You set it to what ur box is tuned to that way it wont let the subs go below the frequency u set. If you dont have one, the subs can get damaged or distort everytime it hits the frequecy. U might wanna look into brutus cuz that amp has it

[RoushMan3]

If I picked up another Kenwood Excelon KAC-X810D and wired one to each sub, would that solve my power problem or would you still recommend picking up 1 huge amp like that Brutus?

[Derek]

yea the hifnoics is spose to be a good amp. Plus youll save money just getting taht amp instead of 2 shitty kenwoods. And the hifonics lights up blue .

[TBSpyder]

Originally posted by Afboy143
TBS said u should get JBL but the JBL doesnt have a subsonic filter which is nice when it comes to ported boxes if your going to get one.

Sounds like a big deal, but not really. First we need to know what kind of box he plans on using, because a ssf is pointless when going sealed. But even if he did go ported, you can put an inline ssf on the rca's for any amp...problem solved. They cost a couple bucks, or you can even make one. Another thing to keep in mind is alot of HU's already have them built in nowadays, especailly if you have a sub preout. On another note, I've ran an amp without a ssf on a ported box for about 2 years now....I've never had a problem with the sub and it still sounds the same as the day I bought it, so exactly how necessary a ssf may be is a toss-up as far as I'm concerned...maybe competition vehicles.

However, the extra power from the HF would be nice though on those L7's. 1 amp instead of 2 would be ideal because of less current draw. You also want to be sure it's a class D when dealing with this amount of power, they don't pull as much current...therefore less of a strain on your car's electrical system.

[RoushMan3]

So, lets say that I go with the Brutus to power my L7's. Should I go ported or sealed?

[TBSpyder]

Depends on two things...how much room you've got and whether you're aiming for spl or sq. Sealed will give you tighter bass, ported is louder. If ported though, you would probably want atleast 2 cubic ft. per sub....total of 4 cubic ft. which would leave most cars without a trunk.

[RoushMan3]

They're going in a 01 Mustang so any sub box would render the trunk useless, so I might as well go with as big a box as I can physically fit in there. The trunk has 10.9 cubic feet of area, but I can't find exact dimensions. I would prefer LOUD bass w/ SQ if that's possible. From the info you've provided, I'm pretty sure I will go with a ported box for the loud bass.