SRT-4: TD04LR-16GK *Pictures*

[ACR2NV]

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[4sfed 4]

Those things use the funkiest wastegate/manifold setup Ive ever seen.

[pressuredsol]

The manifold does not look all that efficient.

[joeyk]

what the suck , how they make power with that thing is beond me..

[ACR2NV]

quick spool and the motors are pretty torquy down low on its own...add to that the ultra low 8.1:1 compression

[Jordan Y.]

Good lord... you guys need to swap out for a REAL manifold and turbo... what kind of numbers would the srt's be putting out then? :o

*edit* 2000th post... w00t :nerd:

[ACR2NV]

there a few cars trying t3/t4 e but the results are somewhate promising the most weve seen thus far is a bitch shy of 375whp and 400wt at 15-17psi with a Stage 1 computer being the electronics and a 75 shot running a bit lean oin a stock motor/tranny

[ACR2NV]

the reason why this motor/turbo combination work so great is because the factory diverter valve (BOV) is mounted on the intake compressor side and when venting it recirculates the air right back into the inlet. On the exhaust manifold side using a reverse flow 16g allowed for very quick spool and allowed them to mount the wastegate in a strategic place on the cast exhaust housing/manifold. With both the diverter and wastegate in the "ideal" locations on this setup allows them to manipulate spool up and power delivery via selenoids which in turn are computer controlled.

[722ish]

Originally posted by ACR2NV
quick spool and the motors are pretty torquy down low on its own...add to that the ultra low 8.1:1 compression


isnt it actually 8.5 :1 ? ?

[Viagra_Racing]

This may be a stupid question but bare with me, I don't much about the SRT4's.

Anyways, why do these cars run like shit with a CAI on them. At least my friend's does. He put a AEM on it and it ran like complete ass so it came back off for now. Too lean??? What's the deal??

[722ish]

Originally posted by Viagra_Racing
This may be a stupid question but bare with me, I don't much about the SRT4's.

Anyways, why do these cars run like shit with a CAI on them. At least my friend's does. He put a AEM on it and it ran like complete ass so it came back off for now. Too lean??? What's the deal??

Nope, its a dodge ;)

jfwy ~ not trying to flame all the guys with dodges, its a joke..


it might be like wrx's... and intake leans out the mixture. sends all kinds of crap into a frenzy.

[Billy]

I think if I were to own an SRT-4 I would have to yank the manifold and turbo off and replace it with something much prettier. I couldn't stand to drive around with something that ugly under the hood.....yeah that's the reason I would do it. ;)

[722ish]

Originally posted by Billy
I think if I were to own an SRT-4 I would have to yank the manifold and turbo off and replace it with something much prettier. I couldn't stand to drive around with something that ugly under the hood.....yeah that's the reason I would do it. ;)


:lol: :lol: :lol:

[ACR2NV]

its 8.1 :1 ;) in this setup thats one of the reasons the car only revs to 6250 the other is the inherently small turbo.

[Viagra_Racing]

Yeah he's planning on replacing that sooner or later. He's going with a new clutch for right now.

[722ish]

Originally posted by ACR2NV
its 8.1 :1 ;) in this setup thats one of the reasons the car only revs to 6250 the other is the inherently small turbo.

what does compression ratio have anything to do with revs? mine has a static compression of 8.1:1 and it revs to 7200, 7600 with some ecu work, but no higher because of the valvetrain! not cause the compression ratio?

[cali]

The head/valve train is capable of 8K revs. However it wouldnt be wise to rev this motor that high due to the rod length.

[722ish]

Originally posted by cali
The head/valve train is capable of 8K revs. However it wouldnt be wise to rev this motor that high due to the rod length.

long stroke huh? no wonder those fuckers make so much torque:nerd:

[ACR2NV]

thats what i implied 722ish just didnt realize i puzzled everyone. Like Cali said the valvetrain will rev happily past 7500 as a matter of fact i helped build a turbo 2.4 first gen except its bored and stroked to about 2.7L all forged, the neon computer will alow him to rev to 7600-7800rpm which he does frequently. The A855 drivetrain is primarily designed for low end grunt and adequate top end stock so the calibrations only need the motor to rev to 6250 but it can be taken higher. As soon as my friend's R&D A855 powered 1st gen coupe gets done i'll be able to fill in that blank

[cali]

Originally posted by 722ish
long stroke huh? no wonder those fuckers make so much torque:nerd:

Torque is yer friend embrace it:lol:

[722ish]

Originally posted by ACR2NV
as a matter of fact i helped build a turbo 2.4 first gen except its bored and stroked to about 2.7L all forged, the neon computer will alow him to rev to 7600-7800rpm which he does frequently.

who didnt help build that car :lol: :lol: front mount, black, lexan windshield....... well, flat black...

[722ish]

Originally posted by cali
Torque is yer friend embrace it:lol:

:roll: ive got sooo much lag now, i might as well forget torque down low... i put a header on, and everyone said id lose low end torque! hahaha... no, all i noticed was a decrease in spoolup time.... and it sounds way cooler :cool:

[ACR2NV]

Originally posted by 722ish
who didnt help build that car :lol: :lol: front mount, black, lexan windshield....... well, flat black...

you got me i meant to say dismantle it LMAO...its got a bigger front mount now and its tuned a bit better...i think i was told 12.0 at 121 with 2.5 60 foot shortly followed by a 6 month ban from BMP :D

[722ish]

Originally posted by ACR2NV
you got me i meant to say dismantle it LMAO...its got a bigger front mount now and its tuned a bit better...i think i was told 12.0 at 121 with 2.5 60 foot shortly followed by a 6 month ban from BMP :D

nah, i wasnt talking shit, i was just saying, most people are like, HEY HEY, i touched that car, some dont even know the guys name...

he got banned from BMP? why?

and 12.0 @121 is no 12 sec pass with 60 ft times like that, that fucker should be deep in the 11's now! wow :o

a BIGGER FMIC? jesus, the spearco or whatever was huge, i dont see why it needed to get bigger... if only the dude would stop getting pulled over ;)

[ACR2NV]

NPR..no the small one but the big one mounted upside downso one of the necks is mighty close to the road. And yeah cops love him...cant miss the diesel truck a comin ;)

[flybyuin2.2]

he got the NPR intercooler, turbo, exhaust manifold,piping and 2.4 motor minus head from me, after taking him for a ride in the CSX he had to have a turbo on it, so i pulled the turbo of my car(in less than 1hour, no 2.2 head removal required)and we turbocharged the Neon, i also did some minor rewiring to run on 2.0 electronics at about midnight so he could hear it run, if i still had the CSX i would run him but its gone :( so i guess i'll have to run him in my Mini Van:lol:

[ACR2NV]

would be a close close race mike ;)

[flybyuin2.2]

yeah it would have been,i did spanked him on the street, anyways knowing that my CSX was a mid 12's on motor and the Nitrous would have propelled it into 11's with ease running on slicks, both of our motors running equally same HP level since the the turbo max. output is around 280 hp, with a larger turbo like the Turbonetics T3 exhaust manifold 60 trim T04E/stage III .82 A/R which made 475 HP on Joe's car i think the Neon could hit easy 10's in the 1/4 with proper tunning and being under 2000 lbs with driver sure helps :o the car is a death trap, i honestly don't like riding in it and try to avoid at all costs:lol: i've decided to play with my GN which will be a true street car running 11's on street tires with ice cold air blowing in my face:D stock motor with bolt on's :mullet: the car is currently going under full restoration, hope to get her ready for the GN event next year at Brandenton. the Mini Van should be ready for track in 2 weeks or so, should be fun:)

[ACR2NV]

his car should be running good seeing how he swipped 3 of my injectors off the GLHS :D Oh well i guess i owe him that but it should be running in the next month or so Mike, i'll call you up see what you think

[flybyuin2.2]

keep me updated;)