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Mr 2
08-25-2003, 12:09 AM
(THIS WAS MOVED FROM ANOTHER THREAD IN HERE THAT GOT WAY OFF TOPIC)



Originally posted by FordMan
:werd: :werd:

Maybe it is the thrill of getting chased by the police or killing someone that gives it that extra edge. :dunno:

Is that how you felt everytime you raced someone on a public street? :roll:

We are not idiots, we are not going to be scared off the streets by something you say here.

Strongest Man In The World
08-25-2003, 04:02 PM
really scott, give it a rest bro.

Scott
08-25-2003, 04:35 PM
EXHAUST ETC (Donnie) and MR 2 (Eric)

You two really need to chill the f*ck out. Why is it you have a problem when I comment something on street racing but say nothing to others that reply to it in a not so positive manner ?

Eric, do you honestly think I am trying to "scare" you off the streets ? :lol: That is some funny shit ! If you want to play Russian rullette that is your deal but I will continue to offer and promote legal racing on TR, so deal with it !

I never raced in a organized (if you want to call it that) street race with my car, ever ! So I am uncertain about your public street comment. If that somewhow makes me look less hardcore than some of you I really could care less. I don't go through life trying to impress anyone.

Donnie, not much to say here other than give it a rest ! I don't think anyone here reveers you as a street racer.

Lets get one thing straight once and for all. I have many friends on and off of TR that street race. That is their choice and I do not think less of them for doing it. I think the action of street racing it is dumb as hell and unfortunatley one of these days someone I know or one of you knows is going to pay the price in one way or another.

So spare me the "we are not idiots " shit and that your organized street racing is somehow safe and organized because it isn't. If you want to do it, fine but don't throw stones from a glass house when I post my occasional comment.

Anything else you guys want to discuss ?

To anyone else reading this I am sorry for the RANT but I wanted my reply to this topic to be seen in public view.

Sorry to hijack the thread so if someone could please measure the area in question so we could all move on from this topic it would great !

Viper Guy, don;t worry the thread will not get locked in this forum as quickly as things do in War Stories. Just no personal attacks please.

Mr 2
08-25-2003, 04:51 PM
I am not wound up, so no need to chill the f*ck out.

You made a statement that made people that race on public streets seem bad or even evil with the killing comment. I then asked if that is what you felt when you raced, I mean how else would you come up with such an extreme statement.

I don't think that make me look wired or wound up so I don't know why you replied like you did

Bald Guy
08-25-2003, 05:01 PM
Scott, seriously man lay off the "street racing is dangerous" rant. And I know you're not going to pull the "I have never street raced" bullshit. We both know that is not true. Let the street racers play their game. You hardly see anyone who races on the street bash the track. Last I checked, a lot of these same street racers you rant about are the same ones who support the TR track day!!!!

Scott
08-25-2003, 05:05 PM
Originally posted by Mr 2
I am not wound up, so no need to chill the f*ck out.

You made a statement that made people that race on public streets seem bad or even evil with the killing comment. I then asked if that is what you felt when you raced, I mean how else would you come up with such an extreme statement.

I don't think that make me look wired or wound up so I don't know why you replied like you did


I made a reference to the action of street racing not the street racers. I also put a :dunno: after it because I honestly don't know why some of you do it on a regular basis.

Not trying to pick on anyone in particular here just posting my feelings like everyone else. Take it or leave it I guess.

Strongest Man In The World
08-25-2003, 05:08 PM
Originally posted by FordMan
Donnie, not much to say here other than give it a rest ! I don't think anyone here reveers you as a street racer.


Yeah seeing as my car never runs, you are correct.

At least you spelled my name correctly.

btw Eric and Jomar have said what i think, no need to repeat it

Scott
08-25-2003, 05:13 PM
Originally posted by slobra281
Scott, seriously man lay off the "street racing is dangerous" rant. And I know you're not going to pull the "I have never street raced" bullshit. We both know that is not true. Let the street racers play their game. You hardly see anyone who races on the street bash the track. Last I checked, a lot of these same street racers you rant about are the same ones who support the TR track day!!!!


Sorry I should have said I have never raced at a street race. Going at it from a light with some random person hardly measures up to what the "street racers" on here do.

No one knocks the track becasue it is legal. So your point ?

I know the street racers support the Track Events and that is great ! Why do think I started doing these things ? To give street racers a different avenue to do their street racing. Seems like a lot of them are going to show so I am glad to see they have a safe place to run at least one night every once and a while.

I make one little comment about the thrill of street racing and look how many people blow up at me. So who is ranting here ? :nono: :lol:

You guys take what I say way to serious most of the time.

Strongest Man In The World
08-25-2003, 05:28 PM
but youve expressed the same view in several posts, just as chris said, "not again"


When my car ran, i did enjoy the track, but i also enjoyed gandy too. Had most of my best races out there. It was fun

DaTruth
08-25-2003, 06:04 PM
You guys need to kiss and make up..

Scott
08-25-2003, 06:23 PM
Originally posted by DaTruth
You guys need to kiss and make up..


No need to make-up because I don't dislike any of these people (at least for now :lol ) .

Just speaking off the cuff like I do from time to time. Thankfully you (Vince) and a lot of the others know I mean nothing personal about any of this.

Strokd85
08-25-2003, 09:40 PM
It's all good! Just don't bring up the saftey issue, that's my shit pot to stir! :D

Only have a couple of things to add, and speaking in general terms, not directed at anyone:

If people wish to street race, that is their choice but those same people have no right to bitch about anything that is directly correlated to or created by their choice.

If you prefer to street race and make a trek to the track every once in a while that is cool! But, you again have NO RIGHT to complain about the track giving the pure race cars/trailer queens/whatever you label them, priority over you. This is where we run, don't like it? Leave...
Heard enough whiny bullshit about that one to last me a lifetime..

Ok that's it!

looking forward to making one of the track events this year.. (i hope)

Scott
08-25-2003, 10:40 PM
Found this on a Mustang board today.

This should really stir you guys up ! :lol:

http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/news/front/6440695.htm

Viper Guy
08-25-2003, 10:45 PM
Racing on the street, why?
No LINE.
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The track, well our crew goes to the track 2 or 3 times a week. Moroso is open Wed, Fri, and some times Sunday. The one complaint I hear the most about the track is " I was there 5.5 hours and only got 1 or 2 runs, the line was to long. "

The best things I have herd at the track are " wow this is fun, man I met alot of peaple that like to race, this is better than getting a tickit..ect...ect...ect "

So there are both sides. I live both. I do both. Not one time have we seen some one wreck there car on the street or hurt some one ever in a race. Not to say it does not happen. It will and it can.

At the Track we ( our crew ) see several wrecks at Moroso each month. There are times at the track where the conditions are so bad that I left the track.

Just MY FACTS guys. There is always some danger when in a car, regardless of where, what, and when. Just do your best to be safe at what you love...............

P.S. To Ford Man,
I'm a betting man. I say you will continue to bash us. So be it. 8000 posts for you and nothing has changed. There still racing on the streets Ford Man. To me it just sucks coming here to this .com knowing that you will always show up on a real juicy street thread and fuck it all up and lock it. Just when it is getting good. Because YOU do not like what we are talking about. And than to say we get a thrill out of police chasing us, or killing some one. Hell thay should just name this .com " trackracingonly.com by FORD MAN. Because that is what it is turning into. Your .com, not ours............

Mr 2
08-25-2003, 11:18 PM
Originally posted by FordMan
Found this on a Mustang board today.

This should really stir you guys up ! :lol:

http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/news/front/6440695.htm

That is street ricing not racing.

And they are dangerous, not all of us race in huge groups with 100s of people around us.

Scott
08-25-2003, 11:36 PM
Originally posted by Viper Guy


P.S. To Ford Man,
I'm a betting man. I say you will continue to bash us. So be it. 8000 posts for you and nothing has changed. There still racing on the streets Ford Man. To me it just sucks coming here to this .com knowing that you will always show up on a real juicy street thread and fuck it all up and lock it. Just when it is getting good. Because YOU do not like what we are talking about. And than to say we get a thrill out of police chasing us, or killing some one. Hell thay should just name this .com " trackracingonly.com by FORD MAN. Because that is what it is turning into. Your .com, not ours............


So lets see I go from being a "stand up guy", etc, etc. in some of your previous posts to this bullshit because of one statement ?

Oh how easily some of us change over what is said on the internet. :nono: And it looks like this B.S. was pretty much over until your B.S. statement.

I separate this bullshit arguement from the other thread so you guys can continue to squabble about a line on a road. See any irony here ?

You guys never fail to amaze me. Seeing how my statement made such a impact on some of you it tells me it hit the nerve I was looking for. Maybe even made a few of you think about what you do.

Hope you padded your ego some more with the above hatred ! I won't play along nor rationalize myself to you. If you want to discuss this further use the PM button.

The one good side to this thread is it shows me who I can trust and who will turn when they get the chance.

P.S. Did you read the last statement on my first post in this thread ? How ironic eh ? Oh and your welcome again for the $160 refund at the Track Event for you and your crew ! I am suprised a big balla' like yourself would ask for one.

Bald Guy
08-25-2003, 11:41 PM
Originally posted by FordMan


You guys never fail to amaze me. Seeing how my statement made such a impact on some of you it tells me it hit the nerve I was looking for. Maybe even made a few of you think about what you do.


Nah. We'll all be out and about this weekend. :lol:

Scott
08-25-2003, 11:44 PM
Originally posted by slobra281
Nah. We'll all be out and about this weekend. :lol:


I have no doubt, believe me.

Viper Guy
08-26-2003, 12:22 AM
Ford Man,

Your coment was uncalled for. If your going to say shit, than deal with what we got to say. If ya can't piss with the big dogs stay off the porch. Or just lock the thread, or ask us to PM one another so you do not have to read it. If ya can't deal than don't read it.

I still like ya! ya got spice! Ya big old bully you......LOL

Viper Guy
08-26-2003, 12:26 AM
It's just getting good, come on Scott lock this one to.....please LOL

Scott
08-26-2003, 12:28 AM
Originally posted by Viper Guy
Ford Man,

Your coment was uncalled for. If your going to say shit, than deal with what we got to say. If ya can't piss with the big dogs stay off the porch. Or just lock the thread, or ask us to PM one another so you do not have to read it. If ya can't deal than don't read it.

I still like ya! ya got spice! Ya big old bully you......LOL


I can and was dealing with what I said, hell I made it a thread by itself so it would not interefer with the other topic. :lol:

And I delt with it fine until the personal shit started. I can get over that too if we are done with it ?

Scott
08-26-2003, 12:30 AM
Originally posted by Viper Guy
It's just getting good, come on Scott lock this one to.....please LOL


I have never locked your War Story threads so why do you insist I am the one ? It is not my forum to lock down. That is what you are impling right ?

Viper Guy
08-26-2003, 12:38 AM
Scott,

Sent you a PM if your up to it

351coupe
08-26-2003, 01:20 AM
you guys are my soap oppra

Scott
08-26-2003, 08:01 AM
Originally posted by Viper Guy
Scott,

Sent you a PM if your up to it


Back at ya'..

Strokd85
08-26-2003, 10:01 AM
VG,
Points well taken, but honestly the one about "the line was too long" is pretty cheesy (IMHO)...
Get there early enough and it won't be an issue would be my response...
I've heard Moroso can be a Shithole of a track and I would hope that you've been to better tracks (or at least when they've prepped Moroso, I know it's got bite, it broke a set of hardened axles on my friends GT last year).

I've seen people toss their vehicles at both street races and track races.. Biggest difference to me? Track race.. safety crew on scene very quickly, on site ambulance, etc..
Street race, every one hauls ass to get out of there before the cops come, very few stay behind to help the people (if needed). Again, my personal experiences.....

Personally I prefer the prior, but that's just me.

Viper Guy
08-26-2003, 12:16 PM
stroked85,
Good points on the on and off track stuff. Sounds like you have been on both sides.

As far as me being "cheesy". Most up there think I am on the $$, only some do not. But think about this. I went over the finish line at 148 mph with the digital tac @ 6080 RMP. The Viper off NOS will never ever hit in the 140's, NEVER. So that lead me to beleave that it is long. Like I said befor. I will be up there this week and I will run a wheel and find out for my self. If I am wrong than I owe alot, and I mean alot of folks up there a big apoligy. And I am man enuf to do that. If I am right, and it is long from where Floyd and Scott had us start than I am right and will have to move on. I'm not looking for no one to be on my side. This is getting lame, I know. But alot would still like to know. Like I always say to my self " self, if you need somthing done, do it your self. " So I am willing to drive 600 + miles round trip to find out the answer.

Strokd85
08-26-2003, 06:25 PM
Haven't been to the spot you guys are talking about so i can't offer any insight.

best of luck
Derek

JuicedSS262
08-27-2003, 11:25 AM
So I said to my self..."self"...LOL

Haven't said that in a long time. Hell, that alone mkes me like ya Chris!

Have you and Scott kissed and made up yet?

jfwy BOTH!

I will race at the track, and at all the local tracks. My decision, I live with both consequences, and bitch about neither.

Have a nice day, drive thru.

r/t Racer
09-02-2003, 12:34 PM
shit im a street racer and i see both your points and whatever but nuthin anybody says will change me feelins about street racin it dont matter were i race its fun and who cares what other ppl think your gonna do what ya wanna do just because u can do it peace

SteveYellowZ06
09-02-2003, 10:18 PM
Originally posted by r/t Racer
shit im a street racer and i see both your points and whatever but nuthin anybody says will change me feelins about street racin it dont matter were i race its fun and who cares what other ppl think your gonna do what ya wanna do just because u can do it peace


Very true. I don't think anyone will be changing anyone else's mind here. I think both arguments have merit and I also think people arguing the separate points fully understand the viewpoint of the other side. Therefore, you might as well start arguing about abortion, at the end of the day, everyone will be pissed off and absolutely nothing will be solved....To each their own.
Until street racing is no longer fun and exciting, people will continue to do it.

Scott
09-02-2003, 10:24 PM
Well I am glad to see the flames have died down and that we have attracted more new memebers. Especially more domestic owners. Now if you guys would just start hitting some of the teck forums it would be great !

SteveYellowZ06
09-02-2003, 10:36 PM
Originally posted by FordMan
Well I am glad to see the flames have died down and that we have attracted more new memebers. Especially more domestic owners. Now if you guys would just start hitting some of the teck forums it would be great !

Domestics seem to be few and far between on this board. This site i nice though and gets tons of traffic for a local site.:D

Zate
09-02-2003, 11:34 PM
we have our fair share of domestics.. just most of em arent involved in the drivel in the free-4-all forums.. or posting about their latest stickers.. or whatever neon light they bought this week.. that kind if infection seems to be mostly (and i say mostly.. i've seen a few domestics with it) an import thing..
and mostly with the younger crowd.. who just happen to make up a majority of the posts on the board.. i aint complainin.. what ever floats there boat :)

alot of the domestic people on here are quiet.. hang out in the tech forums.. and get together on weekends to shoot the breeze :)

glad you could check us out though.

SteveYellowZ06
09-03-2003, 08:08 AM
Originally posted by Zate
we have our fair share of domestics.. just most of em arent involved in the drivel in the free-4-all forums.. or posting about their latest stickers.. or whatever neon light they bought this week.. that kind if infection seems to be mostly (and i say mostly.. i've seen a few domestics with it) an import thing..
and mostly with the younger crowd.. who just happen to make up a majority of the posts on the board.. i aint complainin.. what ever floats there boat :)

alot of the domestic people on here are quiet.. hang out in the tech forums.. and get together on weekends to shoot the breeze :)

glad you could check us out though.

Infection...LOL:lol:

Chris
09-03-2003, 10:25 AM
Originally posted by r/t Racer
shit im a street racer and i see both your points and whatever but nuthin anybody says will change me feelins about street racin it dont matter were i race its fun and who cares what other ppl think your gonna do what ya wanna do just because u can do it peace

:lol: :lol: Dammit son, didn't yer ma and pa learn ya ta use punctiation marks! :lol: :lol:

English Translation:

Gosh darnit I'm a street racer. Both of you have valid and exceptionally well thought out opinions, however I prefer to follow my own instincts and convictions. I will continue to slaughter other combatants on the two lane field of honor bacause it gives me copious amounts of joy! I do not concern myself with the fallacious contentions of lesser minds, as they are of no consequence to me and have no bearing on my actions. I race because it's in my blood..... I am Streetracer, hear me roar!

Half Fast
09-03-2003, 10:32 AM
:lol: at CopMagnet.

???
09-03-2003, 05:24 PM
wow yhem is some big words

wheres my translation(i don't read so good):nerd: :nerd:

Jordan Y.
09-05-2003, 07:35 PM
Isn't it great when TRama works itself out, with a seemingly peaceful ending? F4A and it's tendency to have threads consisting of 1 stupid post, 8 pages of flames on that post, and the eventual lock, could stand to learn a lesson from this.