Classes?

[Janky1]

if i want to enter into auto-x and i have a swaped crx is that allowed what are the classes and so on thanks

Josh

[PseudoRealityX]

You're in D-mod if the motor is under 2L.

[Janky1]

thanks, whats the qualifications for d-mod? Is there a website? do people use forced induction? Is it individual runs? Sorry for the million questions but I have no idea about it and I'm interested.

[PseudoRealityX]

the mod classes' rules aren't posted online.

But pretty much, you can do anything you want. If you go FI, you'll move upto E-mod, which allows more displacement.

But stuff like striping the interior, custom suspension pieces, lightweight bodywork are all allowed.

[Janky1]

whats the average cost or a good place to start?

[PseudoRealityX]

cost of what?


check the links at the top of this forum for info about local autocros stuff.

[sloaccord]

how come he isnt in street mod?

[w0rd]

It's a 2-seater.
I guess he could be in SM2 though.

[PseudoRealityX]

true, didn't even think about SM2....

SM2 allows pretty much open motor and drivetrain, but you must keep the interior, and suspension is only bolt-on.....fenders and hood are stilll allowed to be changed.

Goto an event, buy a rulebook. then you dont have to worry about people like me forgetting about a class.;)

[Janky1]

cool wnd you said that the events are posted at the top of this forum right.

[Solar Specialist]

So if you're FI you're automatically moved up a class? Even though I got a 1.3L?

[PseudoRealityX]

Originally posted by Ryde _Or_Die
So if you're FI you're automatically moved up a class? Even though I got a 1.3L?

It depends...

What's your specific situation? car? Mods?

[Solar Specialist]

87 Rx7, 1.3L Turbo. Um, I think I would be in the highest mod class? They are in my sig.

[PseudoRealityX]

Originally posted by Ryde _Or_Die
87 Rx7, 1.3L Turbo. Um, I think I would be in the highest mod class? They are in my sig.

you sig doesn't show up.

E-mod would be the highest mod class, and ironically, the slowest...

[Solar Specialist]

Originally posted by PseudoRealityX
you sig doesn't show up.

E-mod would be the highest mod class, and ironically, the slowest...

oops...heres my sig.

[w0rd]

Originally posted by Ryde _Or_Die
87 Rx7, 1.3L Turbo. Um, I think I would be in the highest mod class? They are in my sig.

You could probably be in SM2 also.
Not sure.
http://www.moutons.org/sccasolo/Rules/street_modified.html

But, both of you new guys. PLEASE run in the novice class for at least your first event.

[Solar Specialist]

Originally posted by w0rd
But, both of you new guys. PLEASE run in the novice class for at least your first event.

Oh yes! How long can I be in novice? I want as much experience as I can get before I try moving up at all. Just wondering, but is there ever any events where you win prizes or cash or anything? Gives a little more incentive(mod money ;)) to beat everyone.

[sloaccord]

you can run novice three times OR until you trophy.

trust me, when you get into this- really get into it- just beating that one person that's been dogging you the whole season will be worth FAR more than any prizes or trophy you could ever get.

[BodyRollin']

Originally posted by sloaccord
trust me, when you get into this- really get into it- just beating that one person that's been dogging you the whole season will be worth FAR more than any prizes or trophy you could ever get. absolutely, like when i was in GS and was always really close with albert popalis, that was a fun race.

[Solar Specialist]

Originally posted by sloaccord
trust me, when you get into this- really get into it- just beating that one person that's been dogging you the whole season will be worth FAR more than any prizes or trophy you could ever get.

Oh I know that man. I was just wondering if I had more incentive to win. A little unexcepted income is always great.

[PseudoRealityX]

Originally posted by Ryde _Or_Die
Oh yes! How long can I be in novice? I want as much experience as I can get before I try moving up at all. Just wondering, but is there ever any events where you win prizes or cash or anything? Gives a little more incentive(mod money ;)) to beat everyone.

There are maybe 3 guys in the country who can "make" money autocrossing, and it's not much.

Contingency money is down lately too. The mid 90s with the Neons, you could almost race an entire year on the money you could win if you were good, not so anymore.

I've broken even at one event. That's it. I was in a borrowed car, which took away the majority of my winnings though. *shrug* Don't ever get into racing to win money.


"how do you make a small fortune in racing?"

"start with a large fortune."

[Solar Specialist]

Originally posted by PseudoRealityX
There are maybe 3 guys in the country who can "make" money autocrossing, and it's not much.

Contingency money is down lately too. The mid 90s with the Neons, you could almost race an entire year on the money you could win if you were good, not so anymore.

I've broken even at one event. That's it. I was in a borrowed car, which took away the majority of my winnings though. *shrug* Don't ever get into racing to win money.


"how do you make a small fortune in racing?"

"start with a large fortune."

Not really talking about making a living. More like a hundred or so an event I was hoping.

[PseudoRealityX]

There are 20 events in the entire NATION that you can actually win money at each year. And only certain companies have payouts. FYI, only 2 are in Florida too, next closest is Virginia or Texas.

Again, this is a hobby, and you won't ever even break even on ONE event let alone a year. You will always lose money. We are in this because we love it, nothing more.

And I never said a word about making a living off it, as NOBODY can or ever will do that. What I said is that their racing budget was covered. They still have hotel, travel, food, gas, plus all the regular stuff.

This is THE bottom level of competitive motorsport.

[oilleak]

I'd think Jean Kinser's making a decent living, eh? You've just got to have the right approach.

[0HP930]

No one will ever make any money from any type of motorsports.

The money it takes to be a winner in any motorsports where there are prizes will never be offset by your winnings.

Thats the reason why most professional race cars look like rolling billboards. They make money from sponship/advertising.

[PseudoRealityX]

Originally posted by oilleak
I'd think Jean Kinser's making a decent living, eh? You've just got to have the right approach.

Not from her driving...

even with 11 championships or however many she has now, she's not making money from that, but from the business she runs, in which she rarely instructs anymore due to getting easily motion sick.

[Lola56]

There is an old saying "speed costs money, how fast can you afford to go?"

In the late 80's, over a four year period, I spent over $30,000 in the sport. That included the car (which I bought for $4,000), 4 race engine rebuilds, mods, gears, trailer, tires (8 sets a year), 4 sets of wheels, racing fuel, travel costs, entry fees, etc. I "won" two sets of tires, and less than $100. But, I did have alot of fun, running events all over the southeast, three Solo Nationals in Kansas, and several Pro Solo's in Ohio.

[farmer floyd]

When you win a class with the RX-7 with turbo and you think it was pretty fast and along comes a 36 hp formule VW that will blow your doors off.
Auto crossing is a excellent plase to learn how to drive with finace and be quick. Then go to Penn, to the Blue Ridge regio do some hill climbs,, Fastest car up mountain (payment) no guard rails sometime (mtn Washington) 3000! cliff 75 feet from road seperates the boys from the girls. pardon the pun, they have a 350Hp 950 lb formule ford. fast run circles around gt- corvettes. No end to thrills, if you crash it is your fault, cant blame another driver. Have fun check with Centel Florida Region
Farmer floyd BM- Florida state champion 1993